Everything
>>41611284
They are anti fascist
>>41611375
And what's wrong with that? Aren't they fighting for freedom?
>>41611409
by being fascist and completely hypocritical themselves.
>>41611422
Give me an example please.
In my country they are a gang of thugs who destroy public property and commit heavy violence during their protests. Any time any organization with opposing views to them plan any demonstrations/protests, they are always there to silence them and turn the public debate into "Right wing protesters silenced by the saints of antifa"
Everyone still looks at them as righteous saints though, since noone fighting nazis could ever be bad
>>41611284
Their total lack of Reading skills.
>>41611471
pegida especially
Other than being violent marxist thugs who lead the way in political terrorism? That good enough?
>>41611471
Just because there are a couple bad seeds doesn't show how bad their ideology is. Northern Europe is filled with sleezy white capitalists.
>>41611513
Yeah it does. It is all their seeds. They are the biggest scum in the western world.
>>41611531
All I've seen is peacefull protests. The biggest scum imo is the neo nazis. They don't even know what facism is, and they're global terrorists.
Nothing but a bunch of violent hooligans that attacks anyone not thinking like them, and our leftist media protects them. Fick 'em.
>>41611466
>Hack into Disqus Accounts in Sweden
>Look for "Racists"
>Hunt racists down and physically assault them.
>Swedish government says "Good Job!"
>>41611284
Because fascism is good. Luckily, you and your likes will be hanging from trees in our lifetime. So enjoy your little tantrums while you can.
>>41611560
>>41611513
Their disdain for government is exactly what makes them behave like apes, since they lack any respect for anything state-owned
A party or group that is "anti-anything" is flawed by conception
>>41611284
They are pretty much the SA of the left side
>>41611576
Why can't you be peacefull for once? I just want a peacefull conversation about your hate against ANTIFA.
>>41611605
Explain how please.
>>41611623
People hate ANTIFA because they're violent thugs. You're not going to get a "balanced" answer because that's how people feel about them.
>>41611471
Pretty much the same over here.
They even destroy the signals on tracks so no protesters can get to the protests
>>41611553
>Peaceful protests
Good bait
Kill yourself you commie piece of shit. I hope you get your head bashed in like that french faggot a couple years ago.
I spit on you.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/263282/number-of-deaths-due-to-terrorism-grouped-by-perpetrator-category/
>>41611623
You are the violent thugs.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/263282/number-of-deaths-due-to-terrorism-grouped-by-perpetrator-category/
You deserve no mercy.
>>41611623
I'm peaceful for now. I play by the rules (unlike your precious Antifa). But when the system collapses and the rules are gone, which will happen soon, you will be skinned alive. I believe in absolute morality, freedom is corruption.
It's always the same
>>41611669
Man you white privilege scum.
>>41611718
Welp, it's a troll. We can all go home now.
>>41611710
I'm not apart of ANTIFA, personally I dislike them. But why hate them so much?
Should I be glad that they don't exist in America?
It's hard to tell if they're hard-line leftists or libertarians from the name.
>>41611718
A yank antifa did seem unlikely. I almost wish antifa had a presence in America so I had something to bash.
>>41611744
They're brownshirts for the left. That's the simplest and most accurate way to describe them.
>>41611739
Because they silence others and 19/20 are the ones that spark the violence.
They are state sanctioned thugs that is enough reason for most sane people to hate them, I mean it's not hard to see.
![uni_bielefeld_halle[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sF4E6NU.jpg "uni_bielefeld_halle[1].jpg")
>>41611750
I am suprised your liberal university don't have those
pic related(best one I found) the office of the Antifa workgroup at my university
>>41611750
It would be hard to do what they do in the US without getting shot.
>>41611774
>They're brownshirts for the left. That's the simplest and most accurate way to describe them.
this
Because I am a libertarian/anarcho-capitalist. I don't care what flavor of totalitarianism, I dislike them all.
>>41611744
Hard-line leftists. They hate capitalism with a passion.
>>41611818
What kind of Terrorist shit has ANTIFA done in Europe?
>>41611744
>>41611750
The only reason they don't exist there is the second ammendment. You guys really need to start being good goys and get rid of your guns so antifa can beat some tolerance into you.
>>41611284
You know we have independance day march in Poland, its most important day. These german/polish shits try to ruin this march just because we are nationalists and somehow being nationalist and patriot is facist and unprogrssive. This is why antifa are anarcho/leftist scum of this earth. I dont even know why you are asking fabout them, noone in your country is dumb enough to undermine your based famous murrican patriotism.
>>41611713
I failed German class what does it say?
>>41611774
>brownshirts for the left
Didn't commies have those too? I forget what they were called.
>>41611739
As mentioned, I believe in absolute morality, which these violent leftists consider to be pure evil. They are my natural enemies. The only thing that prevents me from trying to murder each and everyone of these faggots is that I respect the rules that govern the current system. Luckily, as mentioned, these rules will be gone in our lifetime.
>>41611409
>Aren't they fighting for freedom?
No they mostly just smash car windows of people that mention things like race exist or that socialism is inefficient. idk how thats fighting for freedums.
![RTEmagicC_autonomeReferate_01.jpg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/n9K9IJQ.jpg "RTEmagicC_autonomeReferate_01.jpg[1].jpg")
>>41611818
Next to it are
IAFLTR - Internationales Autonomes Frauen Lesben und Transgender Referat
International autonomous group for women, lesbian and transgender
SchwuR - Schwulen-Referat
Gay Group
RSB - Referat für Studierende mit Behinderungen und chronischer Erkrankung
Group for disableds and and chronic invalids
ISR - Internationaler Studierendenrat
International students group
I wish I could go back to my old university where there was more knowledge and less politics.
>>41611875
My german is rusty, but it's something along the lines of "kick, punch, beat etc. Let your sadism run wild, it's for a good cause." That's about the best I can manage
>>41611284
it's just a gang for immigrants to be violent. Anyone who disagrees with unlimited immigration and a welfare state is a nazi.
Bla bla bla
>>41611856
Destroy track signals or blockade tracks with those huge trash cans.
Violence against people with other beliefs and the police.
Burning cars.
>>41611471
This
They are also the first people to incite violence.
We have chapters of ANTIFA in California, and they are usually the people to start violence during protests, which sets off a chain reaction causing niggers to join in.
Take the Ferguson protests as an example. There are quite a few Antifa members in Oakland, and we had a riot there recently. Antifa joined in obviously, and were the ones you saw in the videos with masks over their mouths and smashing windows, while throwing bottles at the police.
It's just like in Europe when there was a nationalist rally. Antifa showed up and intiated the violence.
>>41611818
Im sure there are small left wing "youth" groups that exist here and there that may even call themselves antifa (like those communists who tried to start shit after zim zam was acquitted) but their numbers make them insignificant. Left wing extremism hasn't been the same in the states after weather underground started to fail and is pretty much a taboo.
>>41611641
it's a parasite. once it achieves its goals, which is to dissolve the host, it dies.
>>41611879
The Stasi? Red Guards? There's so many.
>>41611879
The Red Guards if we're talking about Maoist China. I'm not sure what the Soviet Equivalent would be, other than the KGB but that was more of a Secret Police.
>>41611955
Wow. That shit sounds terrible. Glad I don't live in Europe.
ironic fascists
>>41611887
sahsha this is so true
in al all-out antifa vs. pegida fight, we all know who'd win
antifa's got their megaphones and larynx
pegida has their lead pipes and fists
>you and your misses are at a pro European rally when these antifa muscle berate you for being a Nazi and hand your wife a guide to cucking
Wot do?
>>41612021
Luckily it is concentrated around lefty cities like Berlin or Hamburg, so I am not really affected by this.
>>41611932
Thanks, I didn't actually fail German but it was the most useless bureaucratic class I've ever taken. Never got past colors or Days of the week.
>>41611750
>>41611857
They exist in America. You can find them in California. They're pretty much identical to punk rockers, except they sport an Antifa logo once in a while. You can find them at pretty much any rocker-type bar that serves microbrews and has a filthy as fuck restroom full of graffiti, water, and toilet paper. In fact, one of their hangouts in Oakland, CA, is ironically called "The Beer Revolution." Decent brews, I gotta admit that part.
They are the new nazis but fortunately I think economics will never deteriorate enough in a large country to allow them the numbers they need to take over.
>>41611284
Oh boy surely this group has good intentions! What sort of person wouldn't support this?
![675692962_a3b7ba059e[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8LQoTuI.jpg "675692962_a3b7ba059e[1].jpg")
>>41612067
meanwhile in Germany...
Funny thing is that disguising yourself like this is forbidden at demostrations.
At least the police hates them more than anything.
>>41612078
Do they have rallies and shit? I can see them existing in Portland and Seattle as well, but I think they are pretty non existent outside of white ivory tower cities
>>41612068
I bet Sweden is filled with these jolly men.
>>41612136
They are pretty obviously just thugs who want to hide behind a banner of morality and attack other people.
Same gang as the shit heads online who try to dox anyone they can.
>>41612160
See this post:
>>41611572
>>41612106
>Black guy looting
Even antifa are subtle racists
>>41612189
But his looting is ethnically justified. It would racist to suggest otherwise.
>>41611994
Might be the Cheka committees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka
>>41612067
kek
>antifa muscle
What muscle? They look like they just came from /mlp/. I would rip their stupid piercings out and shove them up their asses.
>>41612277
They follow you home to find out where you live and trash your windows, follow your children to school and attack you at your work place.
>>41612067
>anti-nazi logo
>with "burn israel" hoody
does he even know what side he's on?
Antifa embarrassments?
Antifa embarrassments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoGghEWRhPk
>>41612338
So basically gang-stalking is actually real despite what some people say.
I guess this is more "cause stalking" which is less disputed as a thing that actually exists.
>>41611284
But seriously, if you look them up, all of their imagery is violent. There is no pretension of peaceful protest.
A sure way to scatter an antifa gathering is dropping job applications on them. Its fucking kryptonite for them.
>>41612159
I'm sure they have rallies, but probably disguised as music venues. However, like I stated >>41611959 they're the first people to show up at any type of protest, so you're guaranteed to find them at these.
Take a look at the demographics. In fact, the same can be said about the ones in Europe. The groups mostly consist of young college-aged adults, though some older folks can be present. They're kids who have no real goals in life and are still trying to find an identity. Same with hipsters and their faggot marches. Antifa are the same. They're bored, and merely want to feel part of something. They'll look for any excuse to "Fuck da police" so they show up at protests.
Pic related. A slapped-on Antifa sticker in West Oakland. You can find these stickers in most parts of the SF bay area along street lights, etc. I never really realized what they were until really thinking about it. Usually I just assume a sticker on a pole is just another skateboard brand slapped on.
>>41612377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2RSUhQamCM
>>41612446
Huh, I wonder why they didn't have a bigger presence during the OWS protests.
![antifa_sticker_by_lordalmo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lThqGVT.jpg "antifa_sticker_by_lordalmo[1].jpg")
>>41612404
ANTIFA MEANS ATTACK
all there website updates (they organize in local groups so maybe it is different somewhere else) read like propaganda pieces
>>41612472
I would think it's because antifa is explicitly a violent organization and those protests were supposed to be non-violent.
>>41611284
>'Elected' kikes import cheap labour
>antifa hate
lol
>>41612447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZ7mYMdKfM
>>41612472
Perhaps they weren't willing to "Respect the Stack"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCwhlZtHhWs
>>41611284
>Antifa
probably the worst human beings in the whole world. Literally subhuman intellect and behaviour. I'm not even a fascist and I still hate them with a passion
>>41611471
this is also true over here
>>41612516
>that nose
God dammit.
Probably them acting more fascist than any actual fascist party in a few decades.
>>41612511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-2j8Wg8zsw
>>41612594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQvziO9mCg8
Based sweedish nationalist.
>>41612610
This is my favorite.
>>41612615
I like how she at first thinks nothing will happen to her because all swedish males she knows are beta to the max.
>>41612648
That was a guy who stole the flag
>>41612615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwh6Hq0tHRA
Antifa get beat by the Muslims they love so much. Deep down they know is their fault for being so racist.
>These fags are protesting agains a ball in Vienna (Akademikerball)
>The ball is organised by the FPÖ, but it is nothing more than a fucking ball
>Antifags butthurt they aren't allowed to protest after those years of chimpouts
>Still proceed to burn cars a smash windows of shops
>Get med when police take them in.
Pic related, it's the famouns Antifa in Wien
>
>>41612338
As you've said this is likely why we don't have a problem with them here. If they threw something at my windows I'd paint the ground with their brains.
>>41612386
Here is a example of what you are talking about backfiring.
>>41612447
>>41611284
The young ones are just looking for a free pass to vandalize, under the pretext that they're "fighting fascism". Nationalists push in their shit hard here, so they lay low and close to the cops, lel.
Also in their own faction they're vastly outnumbered by old farts that miss communism. Pic related is what the average anti-fascist protest looks like.
>>41612749
>>41611955
>Burning cars.
http://youtu.be/_6eHBDhQ1QQ
they are truly nice people and the last defenders against fascism :^)
>>41612804
Cops in America hate everyone. Cops in Europe seem to only hate ANTIFA. Go European cops
>>41612871
Which was worse? 2014 or 2015?
I haven't followed the NOWKR last year.
>>41612877
Maybe we should encourage the existence of antifa in the US to give cops a legitimate group to hate?
>>41612787
What as strange video and strange set of circumstances.
>>41612956
The only bad part about that video is that proud young Spanish man is in prison on a murder charge for stabbing the 2 antifa that put their hands on him.
The video is funny because how they think they are easily going to intimidate him with their numbers, but he just holds strong and embarrasses them.
>>41612936
Sounds like something I would love! But up here in the midwest, everyone seems to be pretty peaceful. Except for the cops.
>>41612916
2014
nowkr demo was outlawed 2015 and police filed charges for 'building a criminal organization' against unknown since the organizers threatened the police
>of course we can't guarantee we won't use violence during protests
police was heavily criticized for outlawing them but afaik they did it to prevent FPÖ from gaining too much ground through anarchists.
>>41612637
We didn't have peace in the first place, you delusional fucks.
>>41613078
Who is "we" and who is "you"?
>>41611284
They are pretty much neo-nazis but on the opposite end.
Stupid, violent and repressive of any dissent
anti fa doesnt really make sense, none whatsoever. They are liberals, socialists even who are for the soviet version of equality (cultural marxism) but they forget that national socialism of germany is also socialism. It is just a different cultural version.
So we got soviet fetishists trying to beat down similar movements as theirs. Its like all the crazy sects in islam fighting against one another. Its crazy as hell.
>>41613103
"We" as in society, "you" as in antifa.
>>41611284
ANTIFA don't actually care about their cause. They couldn't tell you the primary tenets of fascism and why it is they oppose them. All they want is to be seen as morally just crusaders. They are a load of self-righteous wankers who want to show what hard-cases they are to the herd.
in medieval times they would have been the gang that went around burning heretics and stoning adulterers. and they have the nerve to claim it's in the name of freedom.
neo-nazis and stormweenies might be absolute thugs and dumbasses also but it must at least take some kind of nerve to take up an ideology that is so vilified and opposed in modern society.
>>41613012
That makes a lot of sense, especially with the consideration that the video was used in court proceedings.
As soon as I saw how nicely edited it was and the fact that it was all security footage I knew some serious shit was going to go down in it.
If people want to have gang affiliations (which is really all that antifa is) then the price ends up being things like having friends that get stabbed to death or getting put in prison for doing the stabbing, I suppose.
>>41611513
>Northern Europe is filled with sleezy white capitalists.
Says the noble American.
>>41613199
Indeed sir. Just because I am from Capitalist America, doesn't mean I have to conform.
>>41613136
It sounds like antifa is pretty much centered around moral justifications for violence and garden variety groupthink.
>>41613235
Hmyea that's kinda true. Still, it sounds a little strange coming from you guys
>>41612136
They're the same kind of people who join football hooligans or become violent neo nazis. The exception is that Antifa attracts more retarded women because in the current narrative they are fighting against evil so therefore they are doing something good.
They are insecure people who need a tribe instead of being a productive member of society.
>>41612676
You can never be sure in Sweden.
>>41612160
They are a loose cooperation with bases in Stockholm and Malmö most often. RevFront has their headquarters just north of Stockholm, but nearly all of them are in jail for 5+ years at the moment.
>>41612610
>spanish
what a beautiful language.
They're ruining Bologna.
>>41613281
Yeah. Mostly everyone here is capitalist anyways.
>>41611284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6p1I5R9ays
faggots
Extreme left (selfhating)anti white jobless scum and you are asking what is wrong with them. Let's see what the antifa has done lately:started protest(between the children) with butthurt niggers because muh zwarte piet so racist. Protested again with the butthurt niggerd against a movie about michiel de ruyter considered a hero by the dutch people because muh colonialism was so evil and bad even though they have no sources that say de ruyter was a slaver.
Basically anything nationalistic or white is RACIST!!!! Free palestine
>>41612377
Maybe not Antifa, but similar group trying to have a party in Rosengård and gets kicked out by the muslims that they love to protect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwh6Hq0tHRA
>>41612404
It is because in their mind, the capitalist system and the current narrative is an attack on their very health so they are always in self-defence mode. Therefore their attacks, even unprovoked attacks, are self-defence. No christian ethics here no, no.
>>41612435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4A1haySbx8
>>41611284
They act like They're being rebellious and edgy and hardcore by doing nothing more than respecting an almost universally reviled concept, of which less than 0.5% of the population self-identifies with.
Antifa are brainwashed, cowardly left wing extremists who think they're special just because of the language they use. They act tough even though they have never faced any serious hardship or discrimination at any point in their lives.
They're the epitome of the marxist "useful idiot."
I'm not even a fascist, but I'd pick a fascist any day over antifa.
>>41611513
>capitalists
>fascists
Jesus Christ, how politically illiterate are you? Degenerate leftists are staunch allies of capitalism, for all their pseudo-marxist rhetoric.
>>41611284
http://youtu.be/IRpTxKsV7Es
>>41613488
The Britfags seems to always be the most rude. Every other European showed their message peacefully. America rules the queen drowns in my fluids.
How do they function as a group? The use of consistent images and logos between continents implies they must have some leadership and rigid command structure.
>>41613554
>leadership and rigid command structure
no
they are anarchists
the only thing bonding them to one another is hate and an urge for violence.
>>41613554
I think they just download them from websites
like saying 4channers must be very professional because we all have the same sad frog image on our computers
>>41611284
What isn't wrong with Antifa?
>>41613607
That fucking whore.
>>41611284
They're socialist astroturf.
>>41613607
Wow. And here I thought the left was suppost to be less violent. Just goes to show that you shouldn't be right or left, you should be up top.
>>41613607
>being a leftist
>ever
>>41611572
How is that "fascist" exactly?
Fascist doesn't mean "attack people I don't agree with" you fucking idiot.
Fascism isn't just some people being mean and pushing you about.
>>41613637
I really wish someone would burn that bitch ISIS style since she's asking for people being burned alive.
>>41611656
>People hate ANTIFA because they're violent thugs.
What's wrong with violence?
Are you some kind of massive pussy?
>>41613671
>Wow. And here I thought the left was suppost to be less violent.
Nope.
Just they're using violence to attack the spread of fascist ideology and fascist political movements instead of using violence to promote them.
Which is something I wholeheartedly support.
Fuck liberalism. Fuck your freedom of speech.
>>41611284
I don't think being an anti-fascists is something bad, the problem is that as a lot of other ideological groups it has degenerated into something entirely different and stupid. It's not really different from being a modern feminist or a SJW.
>>41613607
>jew pays a whore to try and divide any brotherhood between germany and britain
>this point is missed by most posters
>>41613756
>brotherhood between germany and britain
Why?
Aren't you a nationalist?
Don't you believe that your nation (Britain) is where your loyalty lies, not with other nations?
I love this "international nationalism" that gets preached on here, you're already abandoning the nation-state as the primary political actor in favour of some pan-national "white-nes" which isn't even tied to the nation-state.
Could it be the material basis of the nation-state is withering away in the 21st century?
Sure as hell looks like it to me.
>>41613750
>>41613713
stop shitposting, xXxXedgemaster1999XxXx
>>41613815
>Anything which isn't Babby's First Liberal Platitude = shitposting
I'm absolutely sincere.
The only way to beat fascism is with violence. The experience of the 20th century is proof.
I guess Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt, Tito, De Gaulle, Truman et al were Fascists too right? Cos they used violence to defeat Fascism?
>>41613845
so you are marxists scum.
A pox a upon you and your family.
>>41613858
>Using the word "marxisms" as an insult
pmsl, enjoy being a slave to the oligarchy.
>>41613891
I would rather be under any other political system then be run by traitor cucks like yourself.
You are a piece of shit and I hope you die.
>>41613923
>traitor
No shame in that.
I'm not the sort of servile bootlicker who wants to kiss the foot that kicks us.
Who thanks them for their scorn.
Who begs their indulgence and forgiveness for the simple act of being born.
>>41613845
Give me one example of modern day fascism in the uk
>>41613956
yeah yeah now get back to sucking jamal,Shlomo and Muhammad's cock you commie rat.
>>41612062
I think you're confusing PEGIDA with HOGESA.
>>41613962
They target democratic parties like UKIP that they admit are not fascist.
antifa are scum and deep down they know it.
>>41613962
Very hard to find as the specific and detailed definition of Fascism is related to certain historical conditions which don't really exists in Britain (to pick one random example - a powerful Catholic church that plays an important role in the politics of the society)
we have a great many nationalist groups who perform a similar political function to the fascists of old but with a number of key differences because of the different historical environment (to paraphrase Orwell "Fascism is what capitalism resorts to at time of crisis to prop up the failing order, fascism is simply liberalism in decay") most far-right nationalist groups fulfill that definition and perform the same function as the fascists of the early 20th century.
>>41612594
It would have been cool if there were enough guys to form a hoplite wall.
>>41613994
>They target democratic parties like UKIP that they admit are not fascist.
I don't support using direct action or violence against UKIP.
UKIP, for the most part, campaign within the legal and constitutional framework of the country, don't use street violence to "March and Grow" in the classical fascist mould, therefore we should oppose them from within the same legal and constitutional framework.
And I'm not entirely sure you have a detailed knowledge of either Antifa in the UK and of UK party politics.
>>41614004
How come all antifa's are anti white
>>41614041
You support antifa in general you little shit don't back peddle now.
>Implying you don't support UAF
>>41614060
They aren't. That's projection. They're anti-fascist.
>>41614063
>Antifa
>UAF
You do realise these are different organisations don't you?
>>41614095
You realize UAF are antifa? Christ you don't even know what the fuck you support. Typical antifa drone.
>>41611284
antifa is a knee-jerk reactionary movement, which is actually just another form of fascism; one which is anti-native/anti-european/anti-white.
>>41614115
>You realize UAF are antifa?
No they aren't.
Antifa is a colloquealism for what is called in Britain Anti-Fascist Network, it's anarcho-communist and not affiliated to UAF (infact it was an organisation set up because of quite clear ideological and tactical differences to UAF)
UAF is a front group for the Socialist Workers Party, a trotskyite group that's known for trying to hi-jack grassroots political activism for recruiting puposes.
UAF are shit. They're utterly discredited. AFN and Antifa are much better.
>Amerifat trying to teach me about the internal workings for far-left British politics
top kek
Further, Antifa attacks anyone that wishes to preserve their national identity which differs from that of the antifa's. A man should be able to have a say over whether or not his country is to be overrun by hordes of immigrants from violent third-world countries, that carry no notion of respect towards those in the country that provide for them their safe haven. Natives should have the option of booting out these thugs for good, and for closing their borders permanently.
>>41614138
>which is actually just another form of fascism
Again:
>>41613699
>Fascism isn't just some people being mean and pushing you about.
Words have meanings.
![spandoekgouda15-11-2014[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Unz9eAn.jpg "spandoekgouda15-11-2014[1].jpg")
>>41614095
> implying
> https://afadenhaag.wordpress.com/2015/01/25/afa-den-haag-in-actie-tegen-verheerlijking-michiel-de-ruyter/
>>41614174
antifascistnetwork.org/tag/uaf/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_Against_Fascism
>Anti-fascist pressure group
>Commie scum Britbong needs a American to break his commie buddies for him
>>41614187
>Further, Antifa attacks anyone that wishes to preserve their national identity
Nope.
Although "preserving your national identity" is a fucking stupid idea imo however I don't advocate attacking people for being stupid.
>>41614204
break down his commie buddies for him*
Seriously though are all commies this dumb?
>>41614213
>DAT BACKPEDAL
>>41613801
>>41613750
you deserve to get pissed on and mocked in front of everyone you know.
>>41614188
They are fascist in that they would resort to violence, and that they are targeting a specific ethnic group with said violence, for the benefit of specific ethnic groups, who just happen to be swarming in and taking over parts of the country. Words DO have meanings, I agree. Perhaps you should look up the terms "Cuck" and "traitor"?
>>41614204
http://antifascistnetwork.org/about/
About us
The Anti-Fascist Network is a network of independent and grassroots groups working together against the rise of racism and fascism in our communities.
Anti-fascists have opposed the EDL and similar groups wherever they go. The aim of the network is to support these local actions and to join together to counter regional and national far right events, ensuring maximum numbers on the streets as well as sharing resources and providing legal support.
The Anti-Fascist Network is not about telling people how to campaign in their areas, what type of anti-fascist activity they should undertake or what political analysis they should adopt. We simply want to cooperate to defeat fascism.
The Anti-Fascist Network is non-hierarchical, will never work with the police and is not affiliated to any political party.
>and is not affiliated to any political party.
Top quality reading there, Amerifat.
Recently Aljazeera posted some opinion column saying how some American Antifa fags should deserve a medal for violently attacking a White Nationalist meeting in their own residence. These fags came up with baseball bats and wrecked like 10 people and they tried to make it seem like its OK.
Fuck Antifa. I believe there is a video in Sweden where Antifa starts running from "muh nazis"
>>41614244
>antifa is a political party
Holy shit you are a idiot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_Against_Fascism
Read what type of organization it is. You can read can't you?
>>41614242
>They are fascist in that they would resort to violence
Unfortunately Fascism isn't just "political violence" is it?
>>41614242
>and that they are targeting a specific ethnic group with said violence
Nope, they're being targetted for their belief in a fascist political ideology.
>>41614258
the UAF is a affiliated to the Socialist Workers Party
The AFN organises seperately from UAF because they don't like the SWP.
And because they're shit.
I know this because I've been intimately involved in british anti-fascism for years, been to the planning meetings, know the people involved in running these groups on a personal level.
In-depth first hand knowledge, something you clearly don't have.
>>41614264
> they're being targetted for what my commie buddies deem is a fascist political ideology.
FTFY
>>41613750
>Fuck liberalism. Fuck your freedom of speech.
violent crackdown on all far left politics when? I mean after all, fuck freedom of speech right?
>>41614264
Nice doublethink there Britbong. I know you cucks are particularly fond of totalitarianism that is shrouded in a mirage of progressive ethics.
Antifa's are good people, regardless of what these retards on /pol/ says.
Antifa cares and defend people, they consider humans to have equal worth, they go against the government and hide asylum seekers because the sick upperclass are racist beuracrats.
Many former nazi in sweden renounce their former flawed ideology and become antifa.
Facism and nazism must be fight at every turn, if nazism were to get a hold of sweden they would discriminate against people violently with an elitist mindset.
Oh your skin colour is different? Lock him up! Your father was from east europe and your mother was from sweden? Lock him up! Anyone who doesnt fit our sick model; lock them up!
Nazist needs to be put down, too bad this is a retarded contrarian board striving to be so fucking edgy even the other boards are sick of this boards browsers.
>>41614244
Hey, can you show me REAL evidence of fascism in the UK or US? UK sucks regardless, but please?
>>41614296
>violent crackdown on all far left politics when?
Isn't that what Fascism advocates anyway?
I don't care about your freedom of speech. I don't even recognise your right to live and exist on this earth so why would I care about your freedom of speech you massive liberal vagina?
>>41614293
And yet you don't even know what antifa means and think it is one cohesive group in every European country.
You are a fool and you are just embarrassing yourself.
>>41614312
I agree if the world had any justice we could hunt you and skin you the way you deserve.
>>41614307
>Antifa's are good people
good one
>>41614312
>I don't care about your freedom of speech. I don't even recognise your right to live and exist on this earth so why would I care about your freedom of speech you massive liberal vagina?
...so you would have no objection if the government had you and your communist friends rounded up and shot tomorrow? Good to know
>>41614316
Let me explain to you:
UAF is a front group run by Trots (the SWP)
AFN (in common parlance "antifa") is an broadly Anarchist group unaffiliated to UAF because of their dislike and opposition to the ideology and tactics of the SWP.
They despise one another. They have seperate meetings, seperate planning structures, seperate everything.
Why are you telling me about something I know in intimate detail through years and years of personal involvement?
>>41614307
>I8HBhZVG
>sweedish antifa cuck spammer
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/41357128/
What more reason do you need to be against such people?
>>41614293
Oh let me guess, you were one of those Londoners who were rioting for more free shit a few years ago? You are all pathetic shit-stains, dirtying up the beautiful tapestry of British society.
Face it, your ideology is doomed to fail once people wake up to the effects of unbridled immigration from third-world war zones. You are on the wrong side of history. Europe is waking up to the fact that moderate political policy is the ONLY way to maintain stability and peace, since if you go too far to the left or to the right, where you utterly ignore a voting bloc which numbers in the 10s of millions in your country, your country will then devolve into anarchy.
>>41614364
are u a trot bruh?
>>41614331
The feeling's mutual.
>Fash expecting me to extend the right to freedom of speech to racists who fantasize about hunting and killing us
Good one, very funny.
>And they say Americans have no understanding of satire!
>>41614364
Just because you are a commie rat doesn't mean you are right. They are considered a Anti-fascist pressure group and correctly as such.
>>41614377
Fuck off.
>>41612067
>would thrash diese kids in a split second
>what kind of opposition is that
pity that the actual nazi movement is so shitty
>>41612594
lol that chick trying to take the flag, gets the fucking pole planted in her face, pure justice
>>41614393
lol ur probably some anarchist baby
>>41614385
I only want to hunt you down because you the biggest and brutal authoritarians on the block. On top of that you betray the natives of your country and cause like 15x more terrorism then "neo nazis or fascists"
http://www.statista.com/statistics/263282/number-of-deaths-due-to-terrorism-grouped-by-perpetrator-category/
it's because you are scum pure and simple.
I wish you would try to hunt me down so I could make another youtube video of faggots like you getting rekt.
>>41614374
>Oh let me guess, you were one of those Londoners who were rioting for more free shit a few years ago?
Nope. I'm from the North of England.
>You are all pathetic shit-stains, dirtying up the beautiful tapestry of British society.
you know fuck all about British society apart from what you've pieced together on the internet.
>>41614374
>You are on the wrong side of history.
Hahaha and oh god, this one is even better:
>>41614374
>Europe is waking up to the fact that moderate political policy is the ONLY way to maintain stability and peace
fucking lel. You're not paying very close attention to European politics I take it?
Because liberalism is dying out here faster than it did in the 1930's. The Centre is finished. In Europe today "moderate" means "someone who wants to cling to the failing status quo due to the their vested interests".
A moderate is someone who wants the oligarchy continue their utter and total domination of democratic politics as the expense of the people.
Liberals are such pussies, fuck your moderation.
>>41614419
>I only want to hunt you down because you the biggest and brutal authoritarians on the block.
hilarious.
And what's wrong with killing nazis? Absolutely nothing so far as I'm concerned.
>>41614445
>And what's wrong with killing nazis?
Dude... I hate to break it to you but you are 70 years too late.
>>41614445
>Implying it is not true.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/263282/number-of-deaths-due-to-terrorism-grouped-by-perpetrator-category/
What is wrong with killing commies like you who demand we open the flood gates to outsiders?
How are you not a traitor who deserves death?
>>41614418
No actually.
I'm just a socialist. Anti-fascist.
Leninism is a bit of an anachronism. We're making our own tendencies and our own traditions in response to events and in response to the needs of our generation, not by trying to copy what happened a hundred years ago, that would be stupid.
>>41614460
And the needs of your generation are to replace yourselves? kek
>>41614419
>>41614426
No bullying. This is a nice board
>>41614445
Killing is bad. :^)
But don't worry, you'll have to teach the new Muslims in your country what not to do, like rape or kill. They even mistake your gay group for Nazis
>>41614459
I never disputed it was true.
>What is wrong with killing commies like you who demand we open the flood gates to outsiders?
I've not mentioned anything in regards to my beliefs on immigration. I'm not in favour of an unrestricted labour market (although that's on economic rather than natioanlist grounds, on principleI have no problem with the idea of mass immigration, just that under the current conditions immigration takes places at the behest of, and in the interests of, global capital)
>>41614486
>dat spelling
lol my apologies.
>>41611284
>>41614486
You are Marxist collectivist no one cares about your stupid individual views that are not even coherent. It's all about social justice and the "new left" if you like it or not and the people around you have accepted that.
>>41614460
yeah, why would you want to copy the one revolution that crushed the tsar and the provisional government, ended the war and began the project of building and spreading socialism?
yeah, wouldn't want to follow that success story. what are the 'needs' of your generation?
>>41614244
>>41614307
Why do you idiots dox innocent people?
Also, capitalism and fascism are completely incongruent. Capitalists support immigration for obvious reasons.
I'm not a poltard, but you guys are just as biased and as hypocritical as them.
>>41614475
>And the needs of your generation are to replace yourselves?
I'm not bothered about ethnic purity.
The idea of ethnically pure nation-states is dead and gone. Get used to it. You're American, you should know this better than anyone.
Your mixed race descendants won't care. Post-racial coffee-coloured mongrel great-grandkids will be fine.
It'll be one world soon. Gonna have a hard place for you to live in though.
The backlash against this from nationalists and such who can see the writing on the wall will be tough for the next 20 or 30 years but you can't beat demographics. Slowly, inexorably, like Fabius of old, we will undermine the material basis of nationalist ideology until it can no longer be utilised as means by which to ensure subservience to the state and the ruling class.
The SJW's can be our useful idiots in this process, even if their brand of narcissistic liberal identity politics is stupid, they'll still be able to help out in the broader war of position.
>>41614460
You're the plague off Europe.
Happily you "economic" system is falling apart and soon you'll pay for you crimes
>>41614531
>Marxists
>innocent
>>41614486
Just want to point this out
>against unrestricted immigration
>Is part of a group that wants a much immigration as possible
>>41614264
>Nope, they're being targetted for their belief in a fascist political ideology.
don't worry commie faggot, you will be first on the train.
>>41614307
To the casual observer they look like a group dedicated to promoting rightwing extremism by making the left impossible for the average person to tolerate.
If their actions actually increase the number of facists and nazis it's still good? The important thing appears to be the members got feel like they were important people. Such narcissism seems contrary to the leftist and communist ideals of the past.
>>41614562
It's funny how you really believe that when in asia and middle east ethnic interests are at a all time high.
Because of cucks like you your country will simply be a giant Detroit.
Our country was at it's best when it was 90% white.
>>41614526
tbf Lenin's tactics were good for his time.
There's a reason his revolution succeeded and the revolutions in other country's didn't.
But the same things which were successful in overthrowing the Tsar were also responsible for the slow descent into bureaucratic centralism that by 1927 had effectively killed off any realistic prospect of socialism in Russia.
And also: Why would we follow the tactics of someone when we're in a very different economic and historical situation to that group? The Bolsheviks were a product of Tsarism, and I don't live under a collapsing Tsarist autocracy I live under a collapsing neo-liberal EU system, one with much greater scope for legitimate activism than existed in Lenin's day.
>>41614531
>Also, capitalism and fascism are completely incongruent
No they aren't.
Fascism is what capital resorts to when it needs to defend itself against the Radical Left.
They were quite open about this at the time y'know.
>>41614616
This moron.
>>41614244
You are the Nazis.
>>41614604
> the same things which were successful in overthrowing the Tsar were also responsible for the slow descent into bureaucratic centralism
mind explaining further?
>we're in a very different economic and historical situation
don't we still live under capitalism? capitalism in crises, might I add?
>>41614616
Quoting Orwell who lived in a different era is not proof. The globalized world is the antithesis of nationalism. Today's capitalists definitely do not want to see a rise in fascism.
>>41614633
In what way?
There's more to Nazism than "using violence to achieve politcal goals" after all by that definition every nation-state in human history is "Nazi"
And furthermore, the word "Nazi" doesn't mean "anyone who's not a pussy liberal who wants to indulge my right to free speech and incitement of violence" fucking get real.
>>41614604
You better not be a hypocrite and accept the government benefits. FUCK THE GOVERNMENT GIB ME WELLFARE PLS
>>41614664
It's funny how the "pussies" always beat your ass. Face it the best you can do is block the street kek
>>41614650
>don't we still live under capitalism? capitalism in crises, might I add?
yes, but in Russia in 1917 capitalism was very weak, and it was of a vastly different incipient type than the neo-liberalism practiced by the EU.
I can't really go into the details I'm not here to have a sincere debate I'm here to point and laugh at fascists, nazis and their fellow travellers.
>>41614460
And yet, every single "socialist" experiment ended up killing millions of people, and ultimately collapsed on itself. You know why? Because you cannot build an economy from the top down. It will always fail, because we cannot accurately model a system which is based on the actions of millions of people who are irrational with money. Further, it promotes hegemony like nothing else. Every single "socialist" experiment made a handful of people incredibly rich, and everyone else incredibly poor. You have to have your eyes closed towards history to be a socialist.
>>41614683
You can laugh, but nationalism is the biggest it has been in decades in europe :)
Day of rope soon commie scum.
>>41614664
You're kidding right? You people resort to violence, subterfuge and libel in order to further your agenda.
>>41614683
>Russia in 1917
>capitalism
>>41614661
upto a point, but the definition that Orwell provides is a very accurate understanding.
And although capitalism doesn't care much for nationalism, nationalism is still one of the primary means the nation-state (which capitalists most certainly do need) to remain legitimate. Without nationalism the popular legitimacy of the nation-state is undermined, and the nation-state (which props up the globalised institutions for regulating capitalism like the G8, IMF, EU etc) is something capitalists do need.
So it's nationalism for you, to keep you in your place and society in order, and it's internationalism for them.
Just like how the oligarchs and capitalists privatize the profits and socialise the losses. Nationalism is for you to follow, not for them.
Get rid of the nationalism, the racism, the chauvinism etc and the states role as a tool of class rule is left naked and exposed.
>>41614562
Also
>implying if you ever get your way you wont just get taken over by islam
>>41614714
>Day of rope soon commie scum.
Yeah yeah yeah keep fantasizing.
>>41614718
>You're kidding right? You people resort to violence, subterfuge and libel in order to further your agenda.
Thank you very much I take that as a compliment.
>>41614751
>Get rid of the nationalism, the racism, the chauvinism etc and the states role as a tool of class rule is left naked and exposed.
This faggot. Worked well for sweden. Oh wait it is rape capital of europe because of cucks like you.
>>41614721
Well exactly, that's my point, only in a few places like St. Petersberg and Moscow was there much by way of a capitalist economy. The bulk of the economy was essentially feudal.
Which is why using Lenin's tactics (designed for that situation) in this day and age would be stupid.
>>41611284
had some from germany here protesting or shouting or some shit in somewhat organized manner
>we must leave the borders open so anyone can immigrate to our EU countries
they're literally retarded
>>41614771
I don't need to fantasize. What European political party is power is closest to your political position?
>>41614199
>Michiel de ruyter
Funny thing is that guy was actually some kind of philanthropist for his time. He literally bought slaves to set them free. I guess after the zwarte piet ban the professional whiners needed a new subject.
>>41614754
>implying a significant number of Antifa aren't already Muslims
>implying that they aren't the most useful idiots in the world
>>41614807
They just do that as away to attack the white man.
>>41611959
>>41611959
Honestly, they remind me of the Brown Shirts....and nobody likes a hypocrite
>>41614780
No you don't understand, for a country to work in the modern age you need a balance of socialism and capitalism, so as to supplement each other.
Getting rid of one or the other would most likely lead to the ruin of the nation.
>>41614826
a way*
German antifa are definately the craziest they literally campaign for the extinction of the German people
>>41614754
I doubt that.
After all it's not the left that's been supporting Islam. It's been right-wing governments who've systematically propped up the governments of the Saudi's and Qatari's for the last 70 years. It was the Truman administration who decided to start focusing American energy needs on the Saudis "because it was better to get oil from radical islamists than it is to get it from communist-affiliated coal miners unions" and it was Thatcher who went to Afghanistan and gave speeces praising the Mujahadeen in favour of the (secular, atheist) communist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjNEqR6N6Gs
I could go on all day.
I don't care for Islam because it's been western backed Islamist groups killing my comrades for decades in th middle-east, but I'm not in favour of racist and sectarian attacks on Muslims either.
It's a position you probably struggle to understand. But that's ok, the less you understand, the less able you will be to fight us.
>>41614771
Ah, so then you admit you are a fascist. I would say that you are probably just being purposely hypocritical in order to troll, but then again, antifatas are known for being dumb as bricks.
>>41614888
>After all it's not the left that's been supporting Islam.
It's funny how ignorant you are and then say
>It's a position you probably struggle to understand. But that's ok, the less you understand, the less able you will be to fight us.
You are so out of touch and honestly as demonstrated you leftie types are limp wristed homosexuals. It will be easy to crush you when the time comes.
>>41614875
What's with the RAF roundel?
