Sup /pol/, I'm thinking of becoming a pagan.
I was raised as a christian (from a not so religious catholic family) and I just don't see the truth in Christianity anymore. It always felt so unnatural, so foreign and very uninspiring.
I read about Asatru, Nova Roma, Indo European paganism etc and it just made me want to embrace it. The kinship system, the religious structure, the ethics and epics is so meaningful. At last I can cherish my heritage with all my heart, it just makes you want to live your life to the fullest.
>“My doom has come upon me; let me not then die ingloriously and without a struggle, but let me first do some great thing that shall be told among men hereafter" -The Iliad scroll 22
>"Never slay more than one man in the same stock, and never break the peace which good men and true make between thee and others." -The Saga of Burnt Njal, chapter 55
>"There are tears shed for things even here and mortality touches the heart. Abandon your fears; I tell you, this fame will stand us somehow in good stead." - The Aeneid Book 1
>>38900082
Thanks OP.
Here's one for you:
Cattle die, kindred die,
Every man is mortal:
But the good name never dies
Of one who has done well
Havamal 76
I am too a pagan but my problem is I always feel inadequate in the face of it. I feel like I am not good enough to be one.
Perhaps it's because I am not happy with my life. I should live life to the fullest, too.
>>38900082
Honestly if you're looking into paganism and all, read this:
http://www.davidlane1488.com/lecture.html
>>38900082
Good on you brother!
Woden is god.
Flames arise!
>mfw it's a pagan thread
>>38900082
>Indo European paganism
Can you give me some references on that one OP, or anyone? What to look for? What to see?
>>38900082
Choose life, not death.
>>38903161
>mfw Muslims
most americans are pagan. they just don't realize it.
enjoy your hellfire heretic.
>>38903403
Unfortunately, this is true.
WE CLAIM THIS THREAD
IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD
>>38900082
>Njal
Are those really european names?
>>38903484
DEUS VULT
>>38903484
Death to all pagans.
>>38903493
Yes. Yuro languages were very different before Roman and Christian influence and that survive longest of all in the far north.
>>38903528
Amen.
>>38903528
>>38903515
>>38903484
Absolutely disgusting. Get out of here with your Jewish lies
>>38903544
Yeah many European names come from the Middle East now because of fucking christfags and their toxic jewry
>>38903484
Too bad, we already burnt your church
>>38900082
Join us in our fight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e86WvAX26dM
>>38903484
>>38903515
>>38903528
WE MUST RECLAIM THE HOLY LAND FOR ALL CHRISTENDOM!!!
CONVERSION IS THE ONLY SALVATION!
>>38903618
>>38903544
So where did John, Luke, Clive, Zoe, Sarah, etc. names come from?
>>38903684
The Middle East.. John is a long derivative of Yahweh
>>38903684
The rest are too but I don't remember them all. Look them up.
>>38903679
I hope a nuke explodes over the vatican and the imported nigger apes from Africa come en hoarde to rape every single christian in the area
>>38903684
Mostly the middle east and Mediterranean.
>>38903426
>>38903833
They transformed a bit when they reached Greece and Italy.. other than that it's basically solid Middle Eastern names that we adopted
GODS WILL...
>>38903684
Clive is actually Anglo-Saxon in origin
>>38903642
Good goy.
Good job OP, you're now embracing the almost forgotten spirit of your ancestors.
Now remember, to honor your ancestors is to act. You can refer to earlier pagan works, or write your own work where you synthesize the wisdom of Europa into your own unique vision. Remember, making your own destiny is what sets paganism apart from the Abrahamic shit, and it's what the Abrahamic scumlords wanted to put a stop to.
>>38903976
>your own unique vision
Paganism confirmed for special snowflake-tier.
>>38903973
>a jew hating other jews
Then again, being a lying backstabber is the way of the jew, so that shouldn't surprise anyone
I bet you even have some bullshit khazar 'theories' and other jewdi mind tricks up your sleeve, don't you, Schlomo?
>tl;dr
Paganistic sects are a european religion.
Christianity is complete bullshit because the chosen people are in a desert thousands of miles away and you've never seen or heard of them before.
King James ver. said Judeans are Jews.
Christianity says God created everyone one/man equally, therefore racism and/or sexism are not compatabile.
However what religion you join should be based on what country your in amd it's history.
>>38904067
Tell me this pagan, if your 'gods' determine the outcome of wars, doesn't that mean that they prefer Christians?
>>38904034
Yes goyim, never doubt your jew masters!
>>38904116
I'm not even Roman, I just like that picture.
>>38903976
> the cancer of Protestantism is so great it's spreading to other religions
I have no face for this
>>38904115
If that were the real case.
They'd prefer Islam.
I'm a Quaker who rejects the peace testament. It's the original White person's religion. It's so basic most people don't even feel like they need a word for it.
>>38904115
No, because Christianity is dying right now into an orgasm of faggotry, while paganism even survived the worst you could throw at it
Pic related, it's your future
sigh
>>38904207
>Look, mom! I posted it again!
>>38904187
Answer the question: when pagans and Christians met on the battlefield, who won the war?
>>38903484
This is now a Christian Thread.
>>38904263
The uncivilized savage christians
>>38904263
You sure didn't, or else we wouldn't be having this conversation, jew
Look, more visions of your future.
>>38904247
Good, OP
Its a fine religion
>daily reminder that Christian Europe harbored Jews and continues to do so
I WANT MORE CHRISTIAN'S MEMES
>>38903268
I meant indo European in general, including the vedic and iranian religion. But if you mean a single indo European pagan religion, reconstructed proto indo European comes to mind. Though it's very vague, you can look into dnghu.org, or read 'The horse, the wheel and the language' by David Anthony for in depth academic information. If you're into the religious side, a pagan named Ceisewr Serith wrote a book specifically about this called 'deep ancestors' you might want to check it out. ill leave you with this introductory video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ErXa5PyHj4I
>>38903528
Come get me, nansyboy.
>>38904393
Here's one. The queer clergy
>>38904319
It is always amusing to me that pagans like to deride Christianity as a "pussy slave religion," but as soon as we remind them of their defeat they become so quick to paint us as brutal oppressors.
>>38904322
Being unable to accept defeat gracefully is unbecoming.
We won: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades
Such a true European religion.
>>38904393
>>38904444
ABSOLUTELY HERETICAL
>>38904471
>Being unable to accept defeat gracefully is unbecoming.
No, I just don't want you people to make my continent gay
>>38904373
> implying pagans have a fuck about Jews.
>>38904471
The old christianity was full of savage idiots.. the new christianity is full of docile idiots.
>>38904515
Not really, your religion was gay from the beginning
>>38904471
You lost as often as you won, and now you think a few centuries of hiding has destroyed a religion in its entirety.
>>38904263
I think most pagans would rather die in battle than live to become what Christians are becoming now. Not that I think Christianity is beyond redemption. In fact, in some ways I hope ISIS keeps growing so some Christian men find their balls.
>>38904471
Your religion prohibits killing and war, my homeland was not conquered by Christians, but by Franks who claimed to be Christian.
Having a hard time following your own religion there, "warrior"? Turn the other cheek.
Charlatanism and woo that hilariously reinvents and repopularizes extinct religions, superstitions, and rituals, for people who want to feel enlightened but don't have the intelligence or discipline for academic learning.
I bet you're a cringeworthy fuck who follows the precepts of the 'Iron Pill'.
>>38904529
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
- Romans 1:27
Get thee behind me Satan!
>>38904529
The ancient Roman and Greek pagans beat us to that, so no worries.
>>38904605
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
- Matthew 10:34
>>38901318
Stay strong brother, just remember that even though we are mortal humans in a world of chaos and confusion, we stick together united, through thick and thin. You'll always have a kinsmen by your side, whenever you're in need.
I'll leave you with a quote by homer in his Iliad
>"The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again."
>>38904717
>>38904635
Pls leave degenerate
>>38903684
>John
From the Hebrew יוֹחָנָן (Yôḥānān), meaning "Yahweh has been gracious".
>Luke
From the Greek Loukas or Latin Lucas, meaning "Man from Lucania". It wasn't a very common name until the Hellenic Jew Luke the Apostle wrote his Gospel/was credited with writing his gospel.
>Clive
Anglo-Saxon, meaning "Cliff" or "of the cliff", as in "Lives near a cliff".
>Zoe
From the Greek word for "Life", although the Greek pagans never used it as an actual name. It was adopted by Hellenized Jews as a translation of חַוָּה (Ḥawwāh), known in English as "Eve".
>Sarah
שָׂרָה (Sara), the wife of אַבְרָהָם (Avraham). The name itself means "princess". Also the mother of:
>Isaac
יִצְחָק (Yitskhak), meaning he who laughs.
>James
A English form of a dialectal French form of Jacob.
>Jacob
יַעֲקֹב (Ya'akov). He was later renamed to Israel.
Many "European" names are actually Jewish.
>>38904694
kek
>>38904635
>>38904717
You know just as well as i do that that verse was not meant in the way you're implying, also, do you think, even if that sentence meant what you think it did, that that SINGLE verse would override everything your holy book says about peace?
When the romans came for him, your prophet didn't allow his followers to fight back, that has to count for something.
>>38904754
All but one are Jew names..
>>38904393
>>38904779
Where in the world did they get a story about a centurion wanting a servant healed as being a gay couple?
>>38904754
>Many "European" names are actually Jewish.
Sure they are Schlomo
>>38903884
Yeah, but the Romans brought many names of organic Latin and Greek origin with them as well. They were stomping all over yurop and building forts when Christianity was a faith of <20 people.
>>38904854
When the Romans came for Him, He had already won; there was no need to fight.
Peace is superior to war, but war will come to those who oppose God.
>>38904938
You tell me, you're the one involved in a faggot religion
>>38904342
You are literally the same person who posts in every pagan thread.
Truly a mystery that you haven't been banned for shitposting
>>38904949
Yeah but at the very least Rome is in Europe and the names are European though Mediterranean.
>>38905012
Which was why I said "and [the] Mediterranean".
>>38904854
Turn the other cheek doesn't promote pacifism, it promotes not reacting violently to petty circumstances. A slap to the cheek is not life threatening, so it doesn't warrent violence. Jesus went with the romans because that was literally the entire point for Him showing up in the first place.
>>38905080
Jesus did not exist lol stop pretending. The NT was written 100+ years after that kike 'died' anyways. Your faith is a joke.
Your just getting back to basics OP it feels good trust me
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlsJD8RlhbI
>>38904420
>swastika
>pagan
You know Adolf Hitler used the swastika because it was used at his favorite Lambach church. It's the symbol of the cross.
>>38905116
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus#Testimonium_Flavianum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ
Why does every Pagan thread have to turn into a shitpostathon.... why can't you just leave us alone so we can rot in hell or whatever.
>>38904754
Clive...
That's almost as bas as Cletus.
I'm gonna name my kid James or John. Fuck you all
>>38904938
>answering obvious trolling
Brother, cmon
>>38905080
>Turn the other cheek doesn't promote pacifism
He could have said that you should turn the other asscheek and it still would be a Christian version of a warrior mentality
Just admit it, Christianity is for pussies, by pussies. You tried to get rid of us, and you failed. Now go fade into obscurity while we make Europe great again
>>38905204
I hope you die of Aids
>>38904946
Oh, there's plenty of European names. Augustus, Marcus, Carl, Earl, Henry, George, and so on and so forth.
But many "European" names are Jewish. Notice that I am using quotation marks here, as I did in my previous post. Hebrew is not an Indo-European language. It, like Arabic and various Ethiopian languages such as Ge'ez, is an Afro-Asiatic language, and more specifically Semitic. As such, they are not European names. They may have been "Europeanized" (Or more so, Romanized/Hellenized then Francified then Anglified then Americanized), but that's like saying a nigger living in Denmark is Danish.
There are also names that while Indo-European in linguistic origin only became a name after Christianity had taken root. Luke is an example, or "Christian" and "Christopher" which come from the Greek "Χριστόφορος" (Christoforos), meaning "He who bears the Messiah (In his heart)". Although a Greek man could indeed name his son such a name, there was no background to lead to such a name.
>>38905182
You know the christians adopted the swastika from Hindus and European Pagans right? It was their symbol for peace, luck, and the sun.
Read a fucking book for once.
>>38905220
>dat pic
>>38905202
This is a Christian board, pagans are not welcome here.
>>38905228
You need to work on your bait. The fact that you think that was worth posting is just depressing.
>>38905196
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ
100 years after his 'death'
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus#Testimonium_Flavianum
30-40 years after his death and this is really really flimsy
>>38905311
No this is a secular board, actually.
>>38904973
Where in your book does it say that? Your book does not speak of war, anywhere.
Also, the pagans literally didn't even bother Christians, they didn't even mind if their king was Christian, they just ignored his personal beliefs. Nobody was "opposing" your god, but your kind killed us anyway.
>>38905268
>Read a fucking book for once.
No thanks Chaim. I don't need your jewish book of lies.
>>38905293
According to you it is and you are no authority.
I wish Moot would make a religion board where there could be different generals and discussions on religion and all christian shitposters would be banned.
Fookin bullies
>>38903654
>low bar squat
>"great"
get out
>>38905080
Nonsense, no man would react that way if someone slapped them on the cheek. A real man wouldn't tolerate that. If your god is omnipotent he wouldn't have had to die to the romans for ANY reason.
>>38905407
>your kind killed us anyway
>killed us
>us
LARPing faggot detected
>>38904420
>>38905182
>>38905268
The Swastika in some form has been used by pretty much every single culture on Earth. Even American Natives used it.
The Swastika was used by pre-Christian Celts, Germanics, Greco-Romans, Iberians, Basques, Germanic Scandinavians, Hindu's, Buddhists, Taoists, Zoroastrians, Muslims, and on and on and on.
Look here and scroll down to Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Worldwide_use
>>38905423
Kek have fun with your sitcoms then
>>38905354
1) wrong post.
2) Christians hold a plurality. There are more of us than any other individual religion, and we're extreamly clost to being a full majority. Meanwhile, pagans are a tiny minority here, you're just very vocal.
>>38905182
The swastika was a Germanic pagan symbol for more than 2000 years before your "god" set foot upon this Earth.
>>38905407
If you do not believe in Christ, you must burn.
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
- John 15:6
>>38905268
MY JEWISH PROFESSORS TAUGHT ME EVERYTHING I KNOW
>>38905407
>didn't ever bother Christians
Killing peasents and priests, burning homes and churches, and stealing land, gold, and livestock apparantly doesn't even count as "bothering" someone. You heard it here first folks.
>>38905517
GOD set foot on this earth he created before everyone kikelord.
>>38905509
Seculars are 50-60% here determined by all polls.
Christians are roughly 30-35%.
>>38905470
Yeah, but it was used the most by Aryans all around the world, when they came to India it appeared there, when they came to Europe it appeared there, when they came to China it appeared there, it is the ultimate symbol of indo-Europeans.
>>38905536
Nice cheap invalidation tactic. Makes you look like a fuckin dolt though, do you know that?
>>38905509
Actually there's more muslims than any other religion you shit
>>38905624
Science and Universities is 100% accurate with no agenda.
>>38905594
According to Christianity, god is not a physical being inside this universe, he couldn't have set foot upon this earth since theologically speaking he wouldn't have feet. He exists outside of the universe, otherwise he couldn't have created it.
Way to shoot yourself in the foot, Christfag, do you really think writing god in capitals helps your argument? You are subservient to you god, he doesn't even allow you to speak his name, do you KNOW NO SHAME?
>>38900082
There is no point in dumping one fairy tale for another. Religion is intended as a mass control device for the low IQ general population. If you need to believe in folklore to find meaning in life, you're just a dumbass.
>I'm thinking of switching from McDonald's to Burger King
>I was raised on McDonalds, but I've realized how unnatural and unhealthy it is.
>>38905466
>A real man is so insecure in his self worth he needs to beat the shit out of anyone who insults him to feel good.
Kek.
>wouldn't have had to die for any reason
I kind of want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're trolling. I'd like to believe nobody who can succesfully operate a computer would be so completly critical of something they have literally no understanding of. Not in the mood, I guess.
>>38905704
Paganism isn't about religion anymore. It's about culture and anti-jewry.
>>38905704
>>I was raised on McDonalds
Americans
>>38905293
Amen Brother.
>fides quaerens intellectum
>>38905693
>According to Christianity, god is not a physical being inside this universe
According to Christanity, Jesus Christ was literally god and Jesus Christ was here on earth in physical form.
Please just shut-up about a subject you don't know but you will not since you're a typical know it all atheist.
>>38905693
According to Christianity, God is a human being. You need to study more.
>>38905724
>A real man is so insecure in his self worth he has to have a skydaddy's approval for everything he does
>>38905610
"Seculars" are not one group. Christians make up over 40%, followed closely by the "I believe that God does not exist" brand of atheist.
>>38905523
The only reason why your faith spread is out of fear. You took the fear of tribals and used it, you used the political power of the Roman empire, otherwise your filth would never have spread outside of your "holy land".
Without the narrative of Hell you would never have converted anyone, no one believes willingly in a faith that considers him nothing less than a slave to the almighty.
Quite honestly can we stop the fighting between Pagans and Christians?
We need to combine forces and remove kebab.
>>38905674
>implying i got my info from a university
You can keep pretending that knowledge is an invalid source of evidence but that won't make you right.
So cast me more bait, you're the fisherman. I'm already pretty sure how it'll go.
>>38905468
I said us because i was refering to my people and my faith.
I know you christfags have no concept of nationalism and love for your people, but come on, this is sad.
>>38905851
Reading David Lane doesn't make you Pagan stormfag.
>>38905786
>A real man is so insecure in his self worth he has to parrot everything back at people when he's losing an argument.
You're improving, but parroting is still a pretty shitty form of trolling. You really need to work on it.
>>38905795
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
- Proverbs 9:10
>>38905790
Nope. You're simply wrong. Christians are only 30-35% at most. I remember the polls.
>>38905797
This^
Both of our religions represent thousands of years of European history that should not be thrown away or ignored. We must band together to remove kebab and jew from this earth!
HailaR WodanaR!
Deus Volt!
>>38905582
Fuck you, pagans only did that after you started force-converting them and killing them, the viking age was the response to the destruction of Saxony and the saxon people. Do you have nothing better to say? YOU were the aggressors, nobody was hunting you down anymore, the romans had long converted, you were free to believe in whatever you wanted, but you stabbed us in the back.
Go fuck yourself.
>>38905888
>it's wrong because I don't like it!
>>38905797
Muslims believe in the God of Abraham. they are heretics, and heretics are always preferable to pagans.
>>38905780
I AM NOT AN ATHEIST, you fucking maggotbrain, also i said 2000 years BEFORE your god set foot upon this earth, by which i meant Christ.
You can't even read the conversation, shame on you.
>>38905933
We saved you. You're welcome.
>>38905899
Clearly you don't, because the last one we had that didn't lump atheists and agnostics into one super catagory to fuck with the numbers indicated Christianity has a plurality.
>>38905962
Well it'll be 10 million times easier to convert leftist Europeans to egalitarian Paganism,
>>38900082
I too am kind of in the same predicament.
But unlike you westerners there is no revival of the religion of my ancestors not that I know of anyway. But the mythology is still in some ways alive, although it seems like not many people know about it, except for some academics and a few really old people in the rural areas as oral tradition, and in some ways ingrained in the psyche of the race (or so I have read).
One of the things that bothers me abojut pagan revival religions is that its modernist in a sense, born out of modern reasoning and deconstructio.
Would we really be able to believe in the old gods in the same way our ancestors did?
To them they are real beings that have real influence on reality.
>>38905724
You're funny, christman.
Your god is all-powerful, he can do anything, yet he still has to die to do something?
He can do ANYTHING.
>>38905937
Come on, man, step it up. What's the point in me giving you tips if you aren't even TRYING to troll well?
>mfw I'm Christian that studies Germanic Gods as well.
We must bring back our strong military history.
In the name of Thor. In the name of arch-Angel Micheal.
DEUS VULT!
>>38906016
No it wasn't.
>>38905741
Nonsense, most pagans actually are religious, like myself.
>>38906071
Well said, the old ones serve Him.
>>38906059
>I'm gonna continue to ironically shitpost saying he's doing a terrible job arguing although I am losing the argument currently
>>38906032
Topkek. The pagan "revival" is doomed to failure. It's a reaction to the death of Protestantism. Once Protestantism is gone people will be converting to RCC and EOC.
>>38905878
Indeed, being Pagan makes me a pagan, buttbreath.
Believing in the ancient gods of my homeland makes me a pagan.
You really think this is being edgy, but you have no fucking idea, your kind endangered the existence of my race and nigh-destroyed my religion.
>>38906096
Well this is cringeworthy. Anyone who is truly religious is cringeworthy. I'm in it to preserve my culture.
>>38906071
/thread
>>38906043
I'm sorry, when did I say He had to? He chose to. It was a sacrifice. Really, are you just going to parrot whatever you read on the dark corners of Tumblr pagans call their home?
>>38905991
Good going, claiming to "save" everyone you brutally kill is a pretty good strategy.
>>38906071
is this from the same author of the Iron Pill comics?
>>38906159
You might think so, i do not.
I am not a Christian, so i will allow you to believe in whatever you will, and i will be peaceful about it.
I hope you have a good life, at least you're trying to preserve your culture.
>>38900082
i feel the same way
although i do find catholicism to be very inspiring and a worthy religion
the hippy socialist jew part of it is off putting
but i feel like i was born and raised so i would be a traitor if i did. and lets be honest here, pagan myths are fucking stupid.
but like someone else said are you just replacing one stupid story for another.
what the fuck is the point of it all anyway. oh well. ill probably just end up going to hell anyway
>>38906209
Yes.
I loved the combining of Germanic runes with Christian warrior themes.
Son of Europa! Do not quarrel with one another! Pagans and Christians represent the greatest of Europe's history and virtues! We should ban together to return Europe to it's former glory!
>>38906193
I have never been on tumblr.
Why did he make the choice if he didn't need to? He knows all and is capable of all, he could've just changed everything within and instant without all the drama.
>>38906124
Come on now. Really, I'm making an effort here. If you're content to spend your time with shit as weak as claiming you're winning when you clearly aren't, I'll just let you sink.
>>38906252
I don't just think so, I know so. We know there is no need or reason to believe in a god. We know that the idea of god is extremely flawed. Why pretend otherwise?
>>38906278
I am the vocal pagan anon in this thread, and i agree.
It's just hard to ally with Christians when they try to stab you in the back every hour or so.
>>38906304
Now you're just full blown shitposting. You have no argument. I'm moving on.
>>38906356
True. It is hard to make peace when one side will not relent.
>>38905892
Spamming shit from your book doesn't mean anything whatsoever.
>>38906356
>>38906278
No we need to kill Christianity. We need to absolutely slaughter it and bathe in its blood.
>>38906071
>strong military history
Don't forget ironman too.
>>38906297
He was demonstraiting he cared enough to experience Death. Also it's not like that was the only thing He did.
>>38906428
>>38906327
I have always believed in the supernatural, even when i had my edgy atheist teenage phase i believed in the supernatural.
It's something that comes inherent to me.
Look, i will not try to convert you, it's fine that you think this, i do not mind, and if they do exist, the Gods won't either. I've never minded atheists.
>>38906428
Thanks.
>>38906361
I gave you as much of an argument as you gave me. If you want to by taken seriously next time, you should consider doing more than parroting.
>>38906390
We really do need to make peace, we are ageold enemies, but at least we are of the same blood, we are of the same land, and we share history.
We should cast the invaders into the sea and then worry about everything else.
>>38906527
Saved.
>>38900082
There is no "paganism". Christianity united Europe as a whole. Traditional European were fairly limited to their area. Which one are you choosing? Further, why that European religion?
>>38906531
>supernatural
>calling atheists edgy
>>>/x/
>>38906591
Yeah, that's why there's Protestants, Russian Orthodox, Catholics.. and millions of other schisms that effectively divided Europe.
Cause Christianity united it, right?
NO! It led it down perpetual war between French and English while Spain and Portugal were left to the Moors!
>>38906474
Hmm, interesting way of looking at it.
My only problem with Christianity is the shit attached to it, you preach peace, but war will always be there. You preach peace, but still you slaughter heretics and heathens without problem.
>>38906648
I called myself edgy, and with supernatural i only mean things that we can't see (gods etc.) I don't claim atheists to be edgy at all. I was a fucking communist at the time man, that's edgy.
>>38906660
That's another reason I don't like Christianity.
Preach peace.
Fuck peace, we need war right now.
why do threads always come up in support of theology?
there is no actual proof of theological claims being valid. it's 2014, so why is this still a thing?
>>38906428
It is too late for that now, anon, they're here and they're here to stay, they've been here for a thousand years. We must compromise or we will die out, Europe will die.
>>38906583
Faith is more binding than blood.
>>38906700
There is no evidence of things we cannot see or interact with.
>>38906780
Get the banana ready brotha
>>38906723
I agree, war is the only option, we are a decadent and dieing society like the roman empire in it's final days, only war can save us now.
>>38906810
What if you have faith in your blood and heritage?
>>38906536
Yeah, people aren't going to convert to baganism if Christianity leaves, they'll most likely convert to a religion that has at least some universality. Fact: There are more White British Muslims in the UK than pagans.
who is baba g
>>38906817
True, but i don't need evidence to believe in things.
Why are you trying to convert me when i have shown no interest in converting you?
>>38906591
>there is no paganism
Excuse me, but i believe OP is a pagan, and many others in this thread, including myself. Also why do christians on this board get so butthurt around pagans? i have nothing against christians, most of my friends are christian, so are my parents and a huge chunk of my ancestors are also christian.
other people have mentioned it my biggest problem with christianity is how it pussifies people
i understand how muslims claim "religion of peace"
sure there would be peace in the world if every other religion was destroyed. but will that ever happen? no. and its not worth the fight
but we should be able to practice our different religions in peace on different sides of the world. islam is aggressive and expansionist.
i get that by going to war with them…we will become barbarians like them…and that would ultimately hurt the image of the church.
the church needs a wing that can militarily defend itself against aggressive islamic expansion…without hurting the church's image. which is basically impossible.
but if neo-norse pagans could team up with christianity i think that would be a winning combo to defeat thugs like ISIS and da jooos
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>>38906652
It was united through Christianity and finally went into awful war due to the reformation. Before it and even during the times of the crusades Europe moved as close as it ever did as one body.
Pretty much the biggest dividings in European history post-Rome were the Reformation and the Enlightenment, the latter only possible because of the Reformation. All the other divisions of Christianity we see now besides Orthodox and Catholics are protestants acting due to the reformation.
>Orthodox
>Europe
>>38906810
Then our blood will die.
Our ancient, holy blood that has fought a bloody path from the caucasus to this land.
I will not let it die, not without spilling my blood in defense of it.
>>38906920
Read this.
>>38906660
> interesting
It's the correct way of liking at it. The belief it promotes total pacifism requires you to outside ignore other passages. The idea that Christians were historically fighting everyone else comes from horrendous misrepresentations of the crusades and the validity of them. The original crusades were defensive wars. Christian land was being taken by Muslims. The later ones were declared as an excuse to make money, and thus are not, and never were, valid.
>>38906900
They always are anon, because they believe that they are superior, they believe with every fiber of their bodies that every single one of us must convert or die. This has been proven correct throughout history.
>Arch-Angel Micheal
>All-Father God Wotan
VS
>Yahweh
>Allah
>>38906898
You do have to have evidence to believe in things. There's no point otherwise. Just because it's closer to humanity does not mean anything. If someone told you they were a devout believer in the Potato god that had slave Pumpkins and could flt and shoot milk out of it's 11 titties you would laugh your ass off and tell them to go to a hospital. That's how I feel about religious idiots. I'm not trying to convert you per se I am just letting you know you're willingly living a life of ignorance.
>>38906842
Then your faith is misplaced.
>>38906983
If you are right, then you will die a silent martyr for an idiotic cause given life by propaganda invented will after European paganism was effectively dead.
>>38906900
>Also why do christians on this board get so butthurt around pagans?
I'm not bothered at all. I'm just saying "paganism" has an much religious and historical depth as Lavey Satanism. It's no one movement but a collection of movements. If you want to take traditional European religions seriously you need to pick one, not try to claim all of Europe's like absolutely no one did back then. I'm making a point and ask a question, not trying to give OP shit.
>>38907046
What about the wars for Frisia and Saxony then? What about the horrors done to the Germanic peoples?
Christians are supposed to be compassionate, but they have shown to be the opposite of this.
>>38907105
Always bet on Europa
>>38907139
It feels right to me, you can call me an idiot, fine, but every bit of it feels right to me.
>>38907105
Wodan would win for sure.
>Has the ability to bind people minds, making them fearless or fill them with dread and anxiety
>Has a kickass spear that will always hit its mark even if thrown poorly
>Is shape shifter
>>38907105
As much as it seems rather nice to do this divide, Yahweh and Allah would floor those two. Their power-levels from their sources surpass a sword-swinging cherub and old fart that gets eaten by a furry.
>>38906784
>>38906428
>Compromise
>Ever
Not sure how anyone can honestly claim to be a norse pagan today.
Sure you can read old texts…but what do you actually do? worship a tree? seriously i am actually curious
i will admit that id rather go to valhalla than heaven. big titted viking chicks take you to a party with the best warriors and tons of beer. sounds pretty good to me
>>38907259
Have it your way
>>38907181
Its this we need for the current crisis in Europe.
Europe needs her greatest sons to fight for her.
Pagan or Christfag, must come together.
>>38907139
>>38907259
There are ways to sense things without observing them directly.
>>38907168
well there were attempts of an unified roman pagan religion as early as 4th century, how succesfull it was was debateable
but all religions no matter how they claim to be orthodox change, even if the core tenets remain the same. paganism of plato was not equal to paganism of agustus or a greek that lived in 1st AD
>>38907105
Well, considering Michael is an inferior creation of God/Yahweh/Allah and Odin got rekt by a giant wolf, I'll go with the two omnipotent beings.
>>38907148
I would rather die a silent martyr, than watch my ancient blood wither and die. A pagan man fights and dies for his people, a pagan man places nothing above his people and his family.
Without the existance of my people, i would have no will to live.
>>38903976
>making your own destiny is what sets paganism apart from the Abrahamic shit
>>38907320
If you sense them you are observing them directly. SO no, you are wrong.
>>38907292
Well its kind of secular to be honest.
People who are intelligent pagans just merely view the religion as stories to tell and ascertain a pride in their blood.
See this for more information. >>38901376
David Lane was the mastermind behind the movement that has spawned a huge surge in Paganism.
>>38907181
How about you provide stone sources
>>38906920
how could it be impossible when its possible to do nothing
>>38906588
Use it well
>>38906660
That would be Christians, not Christianity.
>>38906780
Do you consider philosophy valid?
>>38907292
Because they relate Europe's culture with paganism, which ironically it was mainly Christian
>>38907320
And don't give me that "I feel God inside me" mantra. Humans have an innate will to label lifeless actions as caused by life. We naturally sense life where we are blind. This protected us in the past. We evolved this.
>>38900082
>Sup /pol/, I'm thinking of becoming a pagan.
Congratulations, anon.
This is your first baby step to becoming a full-blown autist
Daily reminder the only "pagans" that exist are autistic 12 year olds who just saw the recent Marvel films
>>38900082
Pagan cults are stuck in the past, you can't join them without become a primitive faggot.
Not saying other religions are more advanced, just they're mysterious enough you praise inconceivable and interpretable entities.
>>38907292
Pagans do not actually need to worship. We are not subservient to the gods, we acknowledge them and honour them, but we are not their slaves or pawns. Sacrifices are a way of showing thankfulness.
Also, valhöll isn't just partying, it's also preparing to fight the biggest battle ever to exist.
I think the time of Pagan values is coming again. Christianity created a long golden age of European history and culture (though pagan themes and symbols and ideas never 100% vanished) but now the 'soft' christian virtues such as "giving up your possessions" and "love your neighbor" and "all people are equal" and "once all men were sinners but now with this new idea we can all be saved" have become excessive and manifested in the new Christian heresy that is called "progressivism".
It's time to bring back honor, strength, heroic values, strong heroes, reverence for the natural order, and the will to power.
We must. The forces of destruction close in on all sides, and treachery from within weakens us. There is not much time. By our families, our country, our blood, our race, and all that we hold dear, we must become strong.
Europa forever. HailaR WôðanaR!
>>38907482
>you can't join them without become a primitive faggot.
What the fuck are you on about.
>>38907299
>>38907299
Agreed, if there was a war tommorow, i would fight in it.
>>38907510
The Golden Age of Europe was in Pagan times mate.
>"Why were you so ungrateful to our gods as to desert them for the Jews?"
-Julian the Apostate
>>38907439
I consider philosophy valid if and when it provides the reasoning behind its conclusions. Theological arguments do not.
>>38901318
As long as you arent an attention whoring wicca who needs to dress up in fantasy clothing to proper pray, some people may take you serious.
You arent using the edda (written by a christian) as your prime source of religious knowledge, dont you?
Besides that, have you read the book "summoning the gods" ?
I heard it would be promoting interesting and more serious pagan ideas than the typical " I pray to dah wite gods becuz theyre cool- Now call me LegolanOakfriend, Im a druid now!"-"paganism".
>>38907510
HailaR WôðanaR!
>>38907509
interesting
do you guys sacrifice?
i go deer hunting so i will dedicate my first kill to odin
i don't think catholic jesus will mind too much
/pol/ should work to develop an alliance between traditional/old school catholicism and norse paganism
the alliance is necessary for the preservation of both cultures which were instrumental in making europe and north america great
>>38907418
The whole "shed the blood of saxon men" thing? The wars the Franks had with Radboud of Frisia? Widukinds rebellion? These things are kind of well known.
>>38907292
By being full of shit. Nobody actually worships these gods they just pretend to.
>>38907636
how many saxon blood was shed? can you make it clear?
>>38904764
Any credible sources?
Most of those are written by Stormcuck Arthur Kemp and deliberately falsified with seemingly no sources, or I cannot find them at all.
What do people think of Christian Identity?
It proclaims Northern Europeans are the true Israelites and belong in the holy lands.
>>38907471
>>3890756
What do you want?
>>38903426
There is no hellfire! Stop misleading people dammit!
"DEATH" is tailored specifically to the individual. If you thing you'll go to hell you'll go to hell. Not a general hell, but your won inner hell of guilt. Everyone creates an inner world within themselves because we have a spark of the divine within us. The soul is free to do what it wants. The positive, the negative or a bit of both.
All this "INTENSE" stupidity is leading you nowhere folks.
The moment the facts start rolling in and the charade is going to vanish like a bad fart the religious idiots will realize that they have done "NOTHING" absolutely "NOTHING" for their spirituality, they simply devolved and moved away from GOD as farrrrrrrrr as humanly possible.
You know where's the real hell? Is is "HERE" on this planet in the eyes of every starving child in all the suffering.
Almost all of you have lived and died and lived and died and lived and died time and time again. It's about time you woke up and realized who you really are.
It's always the same stinking thing. Last time many of you where all outraged in Egypt when the concept of one deity was introduced and now this. You replaced the ankh with the cross and when you "cross yourself" you are supposed to create the temple - a pyramid! The house. The vessel is the house of the lord. Your mind/soul, heart and body. WHEN WILL YOU EVER LEARN!? So many life times... wasted...
>>38907666
just like Christianity.. I mean there is absolutely no way you can believe in that shit topkek
>>38904764
the story of the birth of the mongrel Jews.JPG
>>38907633
I've never sacrificed, but i really should.
I agree on this alliance, sounds like a great thing, in the face of foreign invaders we must unite.
>>38907703
I have more respect for atheists than your autistic ass.
