European/Russian Art thread.
Moderns need not apply.
Dump em
>>34845321
No
>>34845379
You can post living artists obviously, just post good ones please.
Andrew Wyeth, one of the best 20th century painters.
Ernest Meissonier. One of the greatest genre painters ever.
>European art
>Russian art
Why is Russian art a separate category?
>>34845560
Fag painting.
>>34845982
Why?
>>34845856
Because Russians aren't white.
>>34846059
Because it depicts a homosexual.
should i post some 17th century dutch golden age paintings?
>>34845321
Based Michelangelo.The greatest Artist of all time. Only a man blessed by God Himself could be capable of such majestic works.
>>34846500
nice, who painted that?
Anyone got the painting of Ivan III holding his dying son? That one always resonates with me. Something about the eyes, I think,
>>34846748
you know what, nevermind. I don't even know where to begin
>>34846748
alsjeblieft ja
And now for something a little more contemporary. Behold Picasshole!
>>34846867
>alstublieft
Hier zijn we beleefd Anon.
>>34847003
The sad thing about Picasso is, if you look at the sketches he did in his youth, you can see he could have become a talented traditional artist.
Instead he rode the wave of modernism.
>>34847003
Where did it go wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwVAwFgn8cQ
>>34847003
Fucking hell, it's so grotesque. I can only feel repulsion when I see it. Who can enjoy the broken shapes and horrible colouring that reminds me of feverish nightmares? Why do people like disharmony and ugliness?
>>34847430
Modern Art is a giant scam. It allows try hard wanna be intellectuals to amsturbate over their own cleverness while pointing that finger at any Pleb who has the gall to point out that the Emperor has no clothes.
Another sign of the collapse of Western Culture
>>34847604
Indeed. It is the natural way things go I suppose. Painting is an art that has been perfected for a long time now. The only possible change is downwards now.
Are we fine with Beksi?ski?
>>34847564
Fuckin hell! The shading in that paining! Fantastic stuff. The Italian renaissance was truly one of the highest points in Western culture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Paintings The entire series of "Black Paintings" by Francisco Goya is quite amazing. He painted these on the walls of his home for himself, a rather horrifying thought.
>>34847859
A little too dark for this thread imo.
>>34847859
Technically they are fine, but the theme is rather grotesque in way not too dissimilar from Picasso and other modern painters. Too grim and dark for my taste.
>>34847859
Commieblocks.jpg
>>34847895
It's already (early) Baroque. But in essence you are right.
More Caravaggio
Do you guys have any artwork displayed in your houses?
>>34848097
A question for those with more knowledge of painting: what country could be seen as "best" when it comes to painting? Who perfected the art of oil painting as we discuss here?
Personally I would say that Italians have perfected sculpture and they are definitely a strong contender for painting as well, in my opinion.
>>34847982
Well, I personally like his work, because it's both surrealist and modern, and doesn't look like some scribbles like most modern art. Kind of shows what modern art could be if artists actually put some effort into their work instead of just circlejerking.
>>34847604
Modern art is bullshit, as an art student i hate it, thats why im quitting art school, its all a bunch of hippy/new age fags who think alliens invented humans and satan is good. Well its only one guy like that in my class, but everyone else thinks he's smart and they actually believe him, its just a bunch of faggots into tumblr art.
>>34845321
How modern is too modern?
John Constable makes me feel things
>>34848262
absolutely disgusting
>>34848160
A few simple landscape-paintings, nothing special or famous. Basically what I got from the family home when I moved out.
>>34848179
Italy boast Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Caravaggio, Donatello, Raphael - to name a few. All legendary painters. I'd say the Italians were the best in the world at the arts thanks largely to the influence of the Catholic Church.
Chinese art thread?
>>34848262
Is that vomit that's been rubbed down espcecially thick on the bottom?
>>34848334
Communistic "realism" has no real value beyond propaganda for the worst political ideology mankind has ever seen.
tl;dr git out
>>34848334
Fuck off.
>>34848331
Agreed. Also, let's add some music to honor the Italian nation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq0xa8v1A7c
>>34848160
I have something I drawn when I was ten lel, charcoal and coloured chalk
Needs more battle scenes.
>>34848334
Oh shit, it's Rxxx Nxxxxxxxx
>>34846500
Story behind this one?
>>34848334
>>34848433
>>34848470
>>34848529
sigh, time to fap
>>34848331
>the arts
Surely the German for music though? Literature is a but of a toss-up but I'd go with the French followed by the English
>>34848529
TFW you will never have a red guard waifu
>>34848511
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_of_Huesca
>>34848459
Has any people excelled as Germans when it comes to classical music?
Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Wagner, Brahms, etc.
>>34848555
Beat me to it.
>>34848567
Three stages of Communism
>>34848287
Exactly what i meant, i tell everyone i dont want to be called an artist or associate with them. Realism and what the guy in with the dragon did is considered "unimaginative" "uncreative" e.t.c. the teachers view people who like realism as idiots who cant think "openly" sad...
>>34848459
You want music to honour tItaly with? How about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj2Pli9O9Gc
Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!
O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a bitch, make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck your mother.
You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!
So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!
Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.
>>34847859
Much of his black and white is superior imo.
>>34845321
>Moderns need not apply.
What about Ferri?
>>34848628
Russian classical music was pretty based in 19th century, but I'd still say Germans win overall.
>>34848758
Based Roberto Ferri
>>34848628
Haydn, Schubert, The list can go on..
>>34848555
Agreed. I'd give Literature to the English though. The Germans are god tier when it comes to music, though the Italians were no slouches in that department.
>>34848758
As I said modernism is an ideology, you can be a contemporary artist and work within traditional aesthetics.
>>34848682
>>34848555
Listen to these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jCKbHDN5os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efeQ-MG-Wg4
>>34848293
it's too bad that you limit yourself
but still, Caravaggio is one of my all time favorites
here's a little more beautiful rage fuel for you
Medieval women being oppressed.
>>34845321
Europe and Russia should be nuked
Shit nations full of cowards and sheep. The mduskins would do us a favor if they clean the land of cowardly genes before we go there to take it back.
Long live America!
>>34848878
Son of a bitch.
>>34848878
maybe I can melt your icy hearts, beauty is timeless
>>34848790
>Roberto Ferri
What a world we live in where professional scribblers like Pollock are universally known yet if you ask people if they have ever heard of Ferri, they'd stare at you blankly and say "Who?"
>>34845321
repin is god
>>34845734
Who is this? Im looking for an Italian painter with the same style, maybe its him i dont really know can anyone help with any similar artists/this one?
>>34849060
Use google search
http://www.richardschmid.com/
>>34848878
>/fa/ goes to war
>>34848819
Im a big biased towards the French I have to admit. Like you say though many countries had a wealth of incredible literature. Ancient Greece is particularly astonishing just given the quantity of it from so long ago, and it's continued relevance. Homer and the later playwrights, particularly Sophocles, are world's ahead of anything else from that time
>>34849185
>fucking dadcore faggots
RAF SIMONS RICK OWENS USUALLY WHAT I'M DRESSED IN
Hitler's favorite painting.
Painted the year he was born.
>>34849185
>every napoleonic genre painting ever.
>>34849250
>big
>world's
Fucking phone keyboard
Based orientalists.
>>34848262
I like it reminds me of a storm near the Watmeer
>>34849002
some more roberto ferri
>>34849307
More...
>>34849325
Yes please...
S W A G
W
A
G
>>34849002
And because of guys like Pollock and Hirst people think "modern art" is a stupid joke. It's sad
>>34849428
>>34845321
Glory to Mother Russia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWerj8FcprM
>>34849392
>>34849315
Constable was a hero
I'm really enjoying this thread bros, we need to have more culture threads
>>34849500
What is your opinion on some video game concept art? Is it acceptable or not because >le mountain dew dorito lel
I really like this pic for example, even though skyrim was a pretty shit game overall
>>34849460
>epic memes
>tumblr
fuck off
Thread needs more Polish art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APQ2RKECMW8
>>34848968
Mon nègre.
Bouguereau is shocked by you lack of white swag
>>34849541
>>34849586
>>34849713
one of the few good female painters
Good gods.
Why
How
I am really touched by all this beauty here and I want to cry.
>Critical hit by beauty
How cam from all this to modern "art"
Aivazovsky, The Ninth Wave
>>34849528
>>34849678
>>34845490
It bothers me that there won't be nearly as many paintings of this caliber in the next century. Modern art is garbage and there photos- There won't be many more like the ones in this thread.
>>34849830
>>34847604
This, nowadays art is either avant-garde bs or literal shit on a stick thats just a ploy for laundering.
>>34849918
>nerd art
absolutely disgusting
>>34849941
>>34849817
>>34848667
battle of tours best day of my life
>>34850000
>>34845321
one more, then I should probably get back to work...
>I know you'll all hate me for this but I love Matisse
>>34850059
>>34850092
well, it's not terrible, but it looks unfinished...
>>34850000
One of my favorites, these fucking eyes. Also, nice quads.
>>34850113
>>34850035
Based
This one is pretty amazing
>>34850160
>>34850035
Who is this? I like this
>>34850267
I know how you feel, Jesus. I'm just as tired of these Kikes as you are.
>>34850267
Beksinski being less grotesque than usual. Pretty awesome ethereal atmosphere.
>>34850274
Rembrandt. One of the GOATs.
>>34848790
O_O
>>34850304
>>34850351
He has GOAT brushwork.
>>34845686
fucking beautiful
Some Modern art is amazing. check out Lorenzo Quinn or Richard MacDonald, you ungrateful bastards. Art culture is a humongous business around circles of people that have money.
>sources: richfag here.
Rambrandt brush god.
duping some Norwegian plague art
>>34850541
Yfw Rembrandt, Caravsggio, Velazquez, Michaelangelo and more lived within a century of each other
Yfw the last 100 years in art
It's even worse with music say 1750-1850
>>34850585
>>34850267
>fuck these rocks
>fuck satan too
Art is to capture the beauty of life.
Ded caesar.
>>34849325
This guy is a composition genius, his paintings are beautiful.
>>34845863
baruch shaffer adonai
la chaim jedov lachaima
bakal bar her'shamesh alalaalala
>>34850619
>>34850614
How can you say there are no good artists left?
You are clearly uneducated in this area / haven't researched enough, which means you are ignorant.
>>34847534
>>34847564
Isn't that modern Muslim art? Or is it Mexican cartel art?
>>34850701
>>34850576
>>34850694
>>34850734
I like this stuff. Here, have a Tsar.
>>34849809
damn those are some cool colors
A Sketch I did in university. Yeah I was on beksinski hype.
>>34850826
Have some Richard MacDonald
>>34850784
>>34850863
Pretty rad. I wish I could sketch really good. I have so many awesome ideas that I cannot medium into existence.
Master Alan lee.
>>34850909
>>34850923
>>34850899
It's amazing but not beautyful
>>34850674
This makes me sad
>>34850994
I disagree.
>“Modern man thinks he loses something – time – when he does not do things quickly; yet he does not know what to do with the time he gains – except kill it”.
>>34848205
Art school is typically to teach the various techniques, classically pen and ink or paint on canvass sort of thing no? What you do with that is up to you.
All art is political, maybe you should enroll in polisci?
Not sure of artist here.
>>34850909
Depressing
Wat do you make of this /pol/?
How can I download all the pics in this thread quickly? Without clicking each one individually
>>34851162
Beautiful.
>>34848791
I love how it shows the modern degeneracy. Small russain village school is on this picture, kids 11-15 years of age are solving this task with no pens and paper, just in mind. It shows how schools used to teach TO THINK, and not to pass fucking tests. I like that boy that scratches his head, his branis are fucking grinding so hard that his eyes glow. That picture gives me many feels. Amazing shit.
>>34850769
No, it's feminist art.
>>34851114
>Art school is typically to teach the various techniques
Lol if you're lucky. Many dont even bother now. You'll be stuck in a room with a lefty intellectual giving you theory.
>>34850990
>>34851296
>>34850674
That one fat senator in his seat not giving a shit.
>>34851101
I see your argument but for me(!) those works are not beautyful.
I doesn't "awe" me when I see them. They are cold
>>34851195
Titel: Removed kebab
>>34851250
Well shiat, all you can do is laugh then.
>>34851442
Where are you from?
Witches
>>34851533
Very morrowind-y. I dig it.
>>34851553
Germany
>>34851533
GET THIS SHIT OUT OF HERE.
s.w.a.g.
>>34851107
sexy ladies
>>34849307
Diogenes doesn't get enough love.
>>34851162
Whilst the art of ancient Egypt was very simplistic, in technique, it is quite beautiful.
For those interested in art and how it has changed throughout history and in different cultures I could actually recommend reading "Decline of the West" by Oswald Spengler.
It is quite heavy reading and not entirely focused on art, but large parts of it are dedicated to comparing art from different periods in different cultures and see similarities/differences.
One example is how depth and infinity are concepts that have defined the modern, western civilization. In paintings this is quite easy to see when the main object often isn't what you can see or what is happening.
This specific painting is a good example. The man in the foreground is in many ways just a person representing the observer: you.
The main objective is the wast landscape of fog and mountains. Then there's the horizon and the sky. Truly infinite in it's way.
>>34851585
>>34851585
Does the coldness come from it being one cold material? (e.g. bronze, etc)
>>34851640
Wanderer never ceases to amaze me
Does anybody else find it deeply tragic? I've never been able to explain why it does that to me
>>34851394
what is this shit? what are they doing?
>>34851738
Friederich does that, personally this is his greatest painting.
>>34851817
crappy res
>>34851738
According to Spengler there is nothing that awakens such longing in western men as looking for the horizon. Yearning for infinity is what defines our entire civilization and has done so for almost a thousand years now.
>>34851648
good question. It is 0:30 so I am a little tired.
I try to explain myself.
Yes the material is cold but that just intesivies the bases feeling. Which is depressing (especially the snadclockdude). And one of the major problems of modern art ist that it is almost allways showing in my opinion how very depressing the world is.
I don't need art to do that for me. I know the world is a total fubar place all for itself.
So I see the skill of the artist but I dislike his message.
Is this too "new"?
Patricicans
>>34851907
Tell that to the current generation of limp-wristed Western pricks who are either in their teens or early 20s, attending university, and are defined by nothing more than political correctness.
>>34846766
REAL
>>34851907
Right now most of our fellow people yearns for "likes" on jewbook
![JD-S-27-Untitled-27-view-2-web[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kSqkojC.jpg "JD-S-27-Untitled-27-view-2-web[1]")
>>34851884
The use of light and color is just is masterful
>>34851907
I really have to get around to reading The Decline
I started it months ago, but was sidetracked
>>34851973
Don't be too pessimistic. New role models will arise and many of them will see and turn around.
contemporary painting
>>34847534
can someone photoshop le happy merchant on the guy behind her?
Andrew Wyeth. Awesome American atmosphere.
>>34852169
breddy gud
gibs 7/11
mmm
>>34852149
It was THE book that opened my eyes just how FUCKED our culture is.
The problem is: It is nor possible to make things undone.
You have just sit and watch the happening
contemporary sculpture
>>34851973
>>34852002
I know.
In a way that is just a more degenerate form of "the hunt for infinity". Becoming a social superstar is essentially a form of immortality, infinite life.
But all civilizations have their end. Ours is about to enter the last part of a cycle that takes about 1000 years.
Compared to the ancient "classical" Greco-Roman civilization we are somewhere before the fall of the Republic now. A time of corruption and decay of the ancient values. Disorder will grow until we see the rise of Caesarism and centuries of warfare where people follow charismatic leaders in a hope that someone can bring order to society.
This won't happen as no man can save something from death, and a collection of individuals like a civilization is a very living thing.
Recognize me?
>>34852284
Indeed, though I found it slightly comforting. It was how I outgrew nationalism and racism whilst also opening my eyes to the classical arts.
>>34852296
Ivan something,..
>>34852296
Sherlock Holmes
easy
>>34852284
Author please...
>>34852422
*shoots invisible basketball*
>>34852295
Dude. We are more like in the 4th or 5th century.
After the Roman Republic can an Empire (I know for Glubb they are two different things). But culturewise it wasn't the end.
![Grauerholz_2014_14_CinemaBleu[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pkoNQmc.jpg "Grauerholz 2014 14 CinemaBleu[1]")
>>34852441
Oswald Spengler
The decline of the west
Hard to read sometimes but I would say a mustread for all /pol/acks
Master Velasquez.
>>34852626
Well shit, looks like I have to brush up on my German
>>34852668
No need sir there are english translations
The study for Ophelia By Millais
>>34852750
I prefer to read works in their original language
>>34852774
And finished painting.
>>34852626
>Tips hat
![Cerith%20Wyn%20Evans%20Column%20(Assemblages)%20VIII%202010%20(high%20res)_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/05QhrRX.jpg "Cerith%20Wyn%20Evans%20Column%20(Assemblages)%20VIII%202010%20(high%20res) 2[1]")
>>34852669
>>34852812
I understand this very well. I also prefer the english original if there is any.
>>34852529
I'm not quite sure I follow. I would just like to point out that the survival of Rome as an political entity means that "Rome" wasn't dead.
I would compare this with China. China has been conquered by enemies from the outside a few times in history. However this didn't mean an end to China. The nomads who conquered them became the new upper-class and essentially was absorbed by their new country. China was culturally powerful enough that they could endure military defeat.
Rome was similar in many ways that the barbarians weren't always interested in just destroying Rome. They wanted to BE Romans, the highest standing of all empires in the world.
The west has never really conquered China in it's entirety through military force. We killed China's ancient culture and traditions that in different ways had lasted for millenniums. Through the ideas of liberalism and later marxism we destroyed the ancient empire and created a communistic society in a part of the world that never would have been able to come with the concept on its own.
>>34851296
This one is amazing
>>34852970
*doesn't mean that "Rome" wasn't dead.
Sorry, I'm getting tired. About time I get some sleep. Very good thread though.
Keep posting. Still lurking.
>>34852814
>>34852814
what is this depicting? i know ive seen it many times.
>>34853262
>Ophelia is a fictional character in the play Hamlet by William Shakespeare. She is a young noblewoman of Denmark, the daughter of Polonius, sister of Laertes, and potential wife of Prince Hamlet. She is one of the few female characters in the play.
>>34853327
Not that anon, but damn do I feel uneducated on this board sometimes.
>>34853327
actually i saw this in an ergo proxy episode titled ophelia.
shit thats one deep show, i keep discovering stuff about it.
>>34853034
>>34852970
Haha no problem. It IS late for us Yurofags.
The problem is that the leadculture lost its quality. The barbarians wanted to be Romans that is true, that is why they got citizenship just after 20 years of military service (well until the constitutio antoniana, that stuff just fucked up). But at some point the invading barbarians just wanted the land without the culture. To be (west)Roman has lost its appeal.
China succeded in that they allways have had the appeal left. But their society was totally fixed by stability. In such a way that Spengler used said that they "turned to stone".
At the end the old chinese cultre destroyed itself to be replaced by modern china (like the roman republic was replaced by the roman empire).
>>34853432
You didn't read Hamlet in high school?
>>34853438
Oh lol I actually thought this was a painting from the thumbnail.
>>34853188
Thanks based anon for introducing me to the works of Caspar David Friedrich
>>34853436
Yes I remember.
>>34853494
Not that anon
But it is sometimes different to read somethings at school and to read the same thing for yourself
>>34853494
I did, but I don't remember much, all I know is that a lot of people die.
I always sucked at literature and other art oriented subjects, but I like to admire various forms of artwork
>>34853441
I don't know if the Roman empire is comparable to modern China. According to Spengler's cyclical theory the later stages are mostly a twisted and extreme version of its 'leitmotif' (socialism is the end of the west, incidentally).
The modern state of China has in every relevant way been cut off from the celestial empire it was a little over a hundred years ago.
![cd5e062831f4c80893aa7e4009897339_0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lu6GBJR.jpg "cd5e062831f4c80893aa7e4009897339 0[1]")
Imagine this is it's time.
>>34853895
Sorry but that wasn't my intent. I compare the later roman empire with us.
And I compared china and rom in that way, that they both became something different after a bloody period.
My brain goes now into standby mode and I don't think I can reason very well anymore
So thanks good sirs for the beauty of art
and the nice discussion.
> limit
wompwomp
>>34854136
In it's* time
>>34854136
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: — Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert... Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
‚My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!‘
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
>>34848456
Realism is very different to Socialist Realism, which is what you describe
>>34854136
Bit of a sidepoint; the stonework/masonry is pretty incredible, for those statues to have bore the weight of whatever it is they're carrying for thousands of years; and not break.
Thanks for the dump OP, really needed to fill up my folder.
>>34854336
I know, that's why I reacted such to it. There's nothing inherently wrong with regular realism.
![BogdanovBelsky_UstnySchet[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lUAaCOU.jpg "BogdanovBelsky UstnySchet[1]")
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