The Greatest Story NEVER Told - The Untold Story of Adolf Hitler
https://trutube.tv/video/1229/The-Greatest-Story-NEVER-Told-The-Untold-Story-of-Adolf-Hitler#
JIDF pls
look kids, propaganda!
take pictures to laugh at later
>>33012480
the people have already decided and you're wrong.
90% of people on even this board disagree with you, but you still cling to the 10% that can't post anywhere else on the internet because, I dunno, I guess you're just a fucking retard.
>>33012537
That's not what I see here Jew. What are you so afraid of?
>>33012657
It's what I see here, and everywhere.
>Implying anyone is afraid of modern day Nazi's
Really you're like big angry children. No mental capacity or scope.
>tfw I watch this video almost every single day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXxkFd3lHaM
>tfw the video OP linked is in the side of this video's page under "recommended videos"
It's a good feel.
>>33012710
Ok Jew.
>>33012744
Good for you.
>>33012341
bump
While decent, it loses credibility when they start twisting facts. Not necessarily spreading lies, but presenting facts in a biased manner.
>>33015894
Example plz.
>>33016178
They portray Poland as warmongering. They point out early plans of Poland regarding military action against Germany. They fail to mention though that this is because the Polish government began to identify Germany as more of a threat. It also fails to acknowledge the fact that the Polish simply couldn't beat the Germans, and were well aware of this. Some parts of the film were decent though, they show hitler as having great personal character.
>>33016287
How World War II Started
https://trutube.tv/video/5875/How-World-War-II-Started#
The Truth about the Gleiwitz Incident - Carolyn Yeager
https://trutube.tv/video/25853/The-Truth-about-the-Gleiwitz-Incident-Carolyn-Yeager
>>33012341
>trutube
Seems legit
All you really have to do is read Mein Kampf
>>33016920
The same old "he fun do nuffin." At the end of the day Poland would not provoke a country that it knew was far stronger than it. Germany invaded Poland, Poland did not invade Germany. Those are the facts amigo.
>>33017362
>Poland did not invade Germany.
Oh did you think forcing hundreds of thousands of refugees across your border wasn't an invasion? Ok yeah, Germany should just ignore that, and especially not ask for a corridor to a city that belonged to German for hundreds of years, and was populated overwhelmingly by Germans.
Fuck off with your propaganda, stormshit.
>>33017591
so you admit it's true? thanks
>>33017518
I sure hope you realize none of those are acts of war.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gda?sk
Go to the history section.
Both Hitler and Himmler had oblivious symptoms of autism and Goebbels looked like a fucking Arab.
>>33017682
Tell us then, what should Hitler have done? Poland refused to negotiate, specifically because of British and French assurances of military support.
Nothing at all, is that it? Just let Poland continue to murder thousands of ethnic Germans, and create millions of refugees with no consequences at all.
>>33017755
And Goring was the reason the German army failed to receive food when in Russia.
>>33017779
Again...
N-O-T A-N A-C-T O-F W-A-R
>>33017779
>Nothing at all, is that it? Just let Poland continue to murder thousands of ethnic Germans, and create millions of refugees with no consequences at all.
Yes.
Those are the rules of international relations. Break the rules, get burned.
There was no R2P doctrine in 1939. Germany had no casus belli.
>>33017836
Yes it is.
And Hitler had no choice but to act. Not only that, after he defeated Poland, he offered to return back to the status quo, return Poland's sovereignty, and simply create the corridor to Danzig that he was originally asked for. And again, he was turned down.
So tell us, what should have happened? Please tell us.
It's propaganda and bullshit, nothing more. Very well done propaganda, I enjoyed watching it, but propaganda all the same.
For instance, it claim that Germany invaded Poland to stop the Polish massacre of ethnic germans, but it provides no citation for this. All it does is show pictures of Germans killed in the Bromberg massacre, which occurred two days AFTER the german invasion. The german invasion of Poland was unprovoked, there were no large scale massacres of 50 thousand germans, or whatever bullshit number they came up with.
>>33017896
>the rules of international relations.
Are you a child?
Oh the abject horror. Germany didn't want to go along with the rules of international relations and the Versailles Treaty that destroyed the entire country.
>>33017913
It's not an act of war. Stop making up shit to try and justify invasion.
>>33018000
>Oh the abject horror. Germany didn't want to go along with the rules of international relations and the Versailles Treaty that destroyed the entire country.
That's fine. If you want to opt-out of the system, power to you.
But you don't get to whinge when the system then slaps your shit. If you want Poland to stop murdering Polish citizens, ask them. If they say no, take it to the League of Nations. If the League won't listen because you've pissed them off by being an obstinate uncompromising aggressive fuck then that sounds like you made the bed you're lying in.
Also helps if you don't storm out like a child.
There was no R2P doctrine in 1939.
>>33017755
Hitlers NSDAP multicultural Anti-Jew Army
https://trutube.tv/video/1239/Hitlers-NSDAP-multicultural-Anti-Jew-Army#
>>33018061
>Stop making up shit to try and justify invasion.
I haven't made up a single thing. Of course it was justified, and you still haven't come up with a single solution that would have prevented further violence, which was instigated by Poland.
>>33017779
>Just let Poland continue to murder thousands of ethnic Germans
[citation needed]
>>33018090
THIS. Thank you for summing up what I've been trying to explain.
>>33018090
>If the League won't listen because you've pissed them off by being an obstinate uncompromising aggressive fuck then that sounds like you made the bed you're lying in.
Citation for this?
>>33018146
Any day now you'll stop dodging the "act of war" requirement.
>>33018161
Katyn Forest Massacre
http://trutube.tv/video/5876/Katyn-Forest-Massacre#
>>33018227
Newly declassified documents reveal Stalins plan to attack Hitler in 1939
https://trutube.tv/video/13805/Newly-declassified-documents-reveal-Stalins-plan-to-attack-Hitler-in-1939#
>>33018226
>Citation for this?
Oh please. Germany wasn't playing nice in Europe and everybody knows it. People TRIED to play nice with Germany over and over again at almost any cost - "peace in our time" - but Germany did its very best to spit in their faces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Czechoslovakia
>the governments of France, the United Kingdom and Czechoslovakia were set on avoiding war at any cost.
>Chamberlain believed that Sudeten German grievances were justified and that Hitler's intentions were limited
>the British government demanded that Beneš request a mediator. Not wishing to sever his government's ties with Western Europe, Beneš reluctantly accepted. The British appointed Lord Runciman and instructed him to persuade Beneš to agree to a plan acceptable to the Sudeten Germans.
>On 2 September, Beneš submitted the Fourth Plan, granting nearly all the demands of the Karlsbader Programm. Intent on obstructing conciliation, however, the SdP held demonstrations that provoked police action in Ostrava on 7 September. The Sudeten Germans broke off negotiations on 13 September, after which violence and disruption ensued. As Czechoslovak troops attempted to restore order, Henlein flew to Germany, and on 15 September issued a proclamation demanding the takeover of the Sudetenland by Germany.
>On the same day, Hitler met with Chamberlain and demanded the swift takeover of the Sudetenland by the Third Reich under threat of war.
>Chamberlain referred the demand to the British and French governments; both accepted.
>On 21 September, Czechoslovakia capitulated. The next day, however, Hitler added new demands, insisting that the claims of Poland and Hungary also be satisfied.
How's that?
>>33018412
Wait, since when was Stalin in charge of Poland?
>>33018227
And the solution was what exactly? The historically German city of Danzig was put under the administration of the League of Nations as a so-called "free city." Yet it was not allowed to hold a referendum on whether or not its citizens wanted to rejoin Germany. All negotiations for a corridor were refused, after Poland cut off supply routes for the city.
Just who was provoking whom here? What was Hitler supposed to do?
>>33018307
Are you retarded? The Katyn Forest Massacre was in 1940, and was committed by the Soviets, against the Polish. How does it justify a German invasion of Poland?
>>33018417
>wikipedia
Oh wow, well I can't argue with that!
>>33018464
How World War II Started
https://trutube.tv/video/5875/How-World-War-II-Started#
The Truth about the Gleiwitz Incident - Carolyn Yeager
https://trutube.tv/video/25853/The-Truth-about-the-Gleiwitz-Incident-Carolyn-Yeager#
>>33018636
So which events do you dispute exactly?
Because until you DO argue with it, I'm going to assume you really can't.
>>33018597
The solution isn't the question here, the matter at hand is that Germany used the mistreatment of Germans in a city founded by Poland as an excuse to invade Poland. Unfortunately it was a piss poor excuse since Poland didn't make any act of war.
>>33012341
i'm not watching this cock OP, fuck off back to whatever gayboy skinhead site you came from pls
>>33018649
I already dismissed this bullshit, stop posting it.
>>33018604
Why did Adolf Hitler Invade Poland?
https://trutube.tv/video/6771/Why-did-Adolf-Hitler-Invade-Poland#
Why Hitler Struck Against the Soviet Union in 1941
http://trutube.tv/video/9123/Why-Hitler-Struck-Against-the-Soviet-Union-in-1941
>>33018668
>mistreatment
Nice word for massacre.
>>33018697
Example plz.
>>33018775
Have you read this thread from start to finish?
>>33018775
Where did you dismiss my BS?
I feel like this video is relevant
I love this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbOpatky2dA&list=UUtBqVgzL_cDv_t9o2hFiXXg&index=8
>>33018721
Way to use that to try and get away from the main point. So lets see the act of war that Poland committed.
>>33018668
>Poland didn't make any act of war.
Cutting off supplies, causing economic impoverishment, suppressing political power of citizens, doing nothing to prevent ethnic cleansing, and creating thousands of refugees in a city that had been historically part of Germany for hundreds of years is actually an act of war.
What do you think the reason was for Poland to refuse to negotiate?
>>33018944
Wait so why didn't the Free City declare war on us? Or appeal to the League of Nations.
>>33018659
Czechoslovakia voted to join Germany. Next?
>>33018721
>massacre
[citation needed]
>>33018942
Why did Adolf Hitler Invade Poland?
https://trutube.tv/video/6771/Why-did-Adolf-Hitler-Invade-Poland#
Adolf Hitler Speech - Danzig-Bromberg Massacres
https://trutube.tv/video/8960/Adolf-Hitler-Speech-Danzig-Bromberg-Massacres#
>>33018981
>why didn't the Free City declare war on us?
Yeah you're done here. Bye!
>>33018719
>that first link
It's just more of 'muh massacre of ethnic germans' when there is no evidence of that ever having taken place. The only Polish massacre of Germans that there is any evidence of is the Bromberg massacre, which occurred two days after the german invasion.
>>33012341
Worst propaganda piece I've ever watched.
>>33019067
Still not an act of war.
>>33018986
So what?
The Czech opinion doesn't matter. This is international relations, not domestic politics. Each state is sovereign and the opinions of the citizens don't matter so long as the state says they don't.
Germany was not playing nice.
You fail to understand the international system both as it was and as it is and this is why you don't understand why Germany isn't allowed to invade Poland but France is allowed to invade Mali.
>>33019112
What about the second point? Sounds like you're in a hurry!
>>33018986
>Czechoslovakia voted to join Germany
What the fuck? Germany forcibly annexed Cz.Slovakia...
>>33018944
Still not an act of war.
>>33019156
>>33019195
I'm getting tired of posting the same thing over and over. If you're not interested then leave. It's my thread.
Newly declassified documents reveal Stalins plan to attack Hitler in 1939
https://trutube.tv/video/13805/Newly-declassified-documents-reveal-Stalins-plan-to-attack-Hitler-in-1939
Guise, hitler did nothing wrong xDDDDDD
>>33019244
He'll say "the Czech *people* voted to join Germany" and who knows, maybe some of them did. The Sudentanland Germans would have. But it's irrelevant.
The opinion of the Czech people doesn't matter. It's domestic politics, not international relations. All that matters is what the sovereign of the country says and does. Everything else is fluff - at least until you reach R2P doctrine, which comes out in like 2002.
>>33019339
>I'm getting tired of posting the same bullshit over and over. If you're not interested then leave. It's my propaganda.
zeitgeist level
>>33019168
Can you explain? How can we trust any documentary from any side
>>33019339
But Stalin didn't command the Polish army. He couldn't tell the Polish army to attack Germany. And hitler didn't know about these at the time, and he didn't use them to justify his war.
>>33019405
explain
>>33019339
>I'm getting tired of posting the same thing over and over
I'm getting tired of debunking the same thing over and over, but you don't see me complaining.
>>33019413
I mean Hitler actions towards C. Slovakia proves what a little piece of shit he was. Let's say Sudeten Germans really were persecuted and wanted to join Germany. Fine, Hitler and the British signed the Munich Agreement where Hitler would keep his gains on the condition that he no longer invaded other countries. What did Hitler do next? Invade the rest of C. Slovakia.
Fuck that shit. Britain and France rightfully declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland.
>>33019423
The Bolshevik Jews under Stalin most certainly did. It's the whole reason Hitler was anti-Jew.
The Jew Commies - Butchers From Hell
https://trutube.tv/video/1013/The-Jew-Commies-Butchers-From-Hell#
>>33019528
Meant for >>33019388
>>33019008
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/Polish_Atrocities_intro.htm
>Had the British war clique not continually urged Poland into an obstinate resistance towards the Reich, and had it not been for Britain's promises, of which she felt perfectly sure, it is very doubtful whether Poland would ever have allowed things to go so far, as to make the signal for the removal of Germans in the eyes of Polish military and civilians equivalent to a signal for the murder and bestial butchery of German people.
>The terrific losses caused to German interests in Poland during the Polish domination can be given in figures under the heading of emigration, expropriation, closing of German schools, as follows: up to the middle of 1939, 1.4 million Germans under the pressure of Polish officials had emigrated from Posen-West Prussia and from Upper Silesia. German settlers had lost 1,263,288 acres of land and of these 265,288 acres due to the one-sided Agrarian Reforms unilaterally applied against Germans, 998,000 acres due to cancellation and liquidation. Of the 657 public German minority schools in existence in 1925 (in 1927 only 498), only 185 were left at the beginning of the school year 1938/1939 (of these 150 in Posen-West Prussia and 35 in Upper Silesia).
>Germans were attacked in the open country, in their homes and on their farms. From May 1939 onwards prohibition orders and punishments literally hailed down upon them. The closing down of schools, kindergartens, libraries and German clubs, the elimination of cooperatives, cultural and charitable societies, and the personal threat to each individual, increased to an unimaginable degree, quite contrary to the rights of the German minority as guaranteed by the Constitution.
>During the last days of August 1939, Germans were openly menaced in villages with the expressions: "Slaughter them off".
And so on.
>>33019557
>JEWS IN CHARGE OF STALINIST RUSSIA
HOLY SHIT YOU RAMPED UP THE AUTISM!
>>33019528
>>33019571
Oh yeah, absolutely. That's my point as well.
Hitler wasn't playing nice with the international community but Nazis get buttraged when the international community wasn't nice back.
It's this weird doublethink-persecution complex. I've never seen the like of it.
>>33019413
There was no economic miracle. The USSR wasn't going to invade Germany. The Holocaust happened.
Don't rely on documentaries, read books. Start with The Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze and Ian Kershaw's The Hitler Myth, followed by Destruction of European Jewry by Raul Hilberg.
>>33019628
Neo-Nazis are just like the Jews they describe - whiny with the whole "the world is against us" mentality.
It's ironic and humourous, really.
>>33019423
Oh yes he did. Did you know Danzig was part of Poland?
Danzig, Poland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_City_of_Danzig
Adolf Hitler speech on the Danzig and Bromberg massacres - 1939
https://trutube.tv/video/20095/Adolf-Hitler-speech-on-the-Danzig-and-Bromberg-massacres-1939#
>>33019636
>read books
How about you rely on actual historical documents, instead of reading books written and approved by Jews. You will never find a more biased source against Hitler's Germany than a Jew.
>>33019723
Yes I knew Gdansk was polish. Poland founded the city in the 10th century. And "yes he did" in regards to what?
>>33019622
Holy shit, you're retarded.
October Revolution
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik_Revolution
Jewish Bolshevism
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism
>>33019738
>How about you rely on actual historical documents
And why do you believe the books do not rely on historical documents? That's what good books do you know, they take primary sources (along with some secondary ones) and draw conclusions from them. Secondly, it's unrealistic to ask the average Joe to rely solely on historical documents when we do not have access to the vast majority of them. I recall David Irving having to travel to different countries and researching these historical documents for a decade or so just to write one of his books.
>instead of reading books written and approved by Jews.
Uh huh, I see...
>>33019738
Yeah but any source that doesn't conform to your beliefs will be labeled as Jewish.
>>33019855
>And why do you believe the books do not rely on historical documents?
Because they don't. They all rely on other books in a circle jerk.
>>33012341
>pure unadulterated propaganda for the small fringe group of neo-nazis to devour
>>33019828
I sure hope you realize Stalin was the Shoah incarnate.
>>33019811
HITLER JUSTIFIED INVADING POLAND BECAUSE THE BOLSHEVIK JEWS IN POLAND WERE SLAUGHTERING ETHNIC GERMANS WHO WERE ANNEXED IN THE TREATY OF VERSAILLES AFTER WWI.
>>33019896
I have these books with me and I know you're talking shit.
>>33019861
>Yeah but any source that doesn't conform to your beliefs will be labeled as Jewish.
Like what source? Name a source. Jewish testimony? Speculation based on that testimony? Is that what you're going to cite?
>>33019156
When waves of German Poles came over the eastern German border in the mid 1930s they were telling very consistent stories of being forced out of their homes and some being killed on the spot. Hitler already believed Danzig and the Polish Corridor were rightful German territory, as they were, because it was land ripped from Germany's hands by Versailles, splitting the country into two. Germans still lived there, and in places they were the majority ethnic group, yet groups of either angry civilians or rebels were killing Germans. Hitler felt he had a duty to protect the German people, being a man led by his emotions, so he prepared to invade Poland.
>>33019967
>Bolshevik Jews in Poland
Just stop.
>>33019976
I know you're full of shit since you read Raul Hilberg and consider that reliable information about Hitler's Germany.
>>33020013
Not him or even a Nazi, but most Jews were actually Communists and the Soviet High Command was 50% Jewish.
>>33020013
ur mum's a bolshevik jew
>>33020030
>I'm mad you read one of the most pivotal works on the Holocaust
lol kk. Continue relying on ihr and justice4germans.
I note that the "was the invasion of Poland justified by the international system" argument has wholly been dropped now that the Nazis are irrefutably wrong.
Satisfied, I tip my fedora and continue on my way.
>>33019967
No Germany's economy was artificial and Hitler ran out of German resources and so he needed to use Poland's resources m8
>>33020055
That's 100% false, but even if assuming you're correct, Bolsheviks didn't rule Poland until after Germany invaded Poland.
>>33020112
http://youtu.be/QV7JILRugOg?t=23m13s
>>33020200
What does that have anything to do with this...
>>33020078
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n1p15_Faurisson.html
>Thus came about not so much a plan being carried out, but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus -- mind reading by a far-flung bureaucracy.
>In the final analysis, the destruction of the Jews was not so much a product of laws and commands as it was a matter of spirit, of shared comprehension, of consonance and synchronization.
- Raul Hilberg
Mind reading. Without a blueprint. Without a basic plan.
He also mentioned "written directives not published," "oral directives and authorizations," and "basic understandings of officials resulting in decisions not requiring orders or explanations."
So no actual documents. Just mind reading. And oral directives based on no plan, with no supporting documentary evidence.
Sure ok.
>>33020223
Watch it you retard
Literally takes 15 seconds
>>33020103
So then why did they call Hitler's economic turnaround the "German miracle" which was the main reason for WWII?
Why is that?
>>33020305
>those Germans have a good economy
>I'm jealous so lets fuck them up
Haha, no. It was an economic miracle until 1945.
>>33020305
>So then why did they call Hitler's economic turnaround the "German miracle" which was the main reason for WWII?
Same reason that Chamberlain pronounced "peace for our time".
They guessed based on the info they had, and were wrong.
>>33020363
So did the Germany economy become worse or unchanged after Hitler came to power?
>>33020456
Well look how they ended up.
>>33020363
No, you're wrong.
Dr. Mark Weber: Adolf Hitler's German Economic Miracle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDu3QUveAcI
>>33020230
Faurisson says:
>But what began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in advance, not organized centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint and there was no budget for destructive measures.
Yes, this is exactly Hilberg's position. What Faurisson is alluding to is the debate between Functionalism and Intentionalism, where Hilberg believes the Holocaust to be due to the former. Intentionalists argue there was such a plan, while functionalists argue there was not.
"Mind-reading" isn't meant to be taken literally you dolt.
>So no actual documents.
>over 1400 pages in 3 volumes didn't rely on documents
This is what this anon seriously believes... someone who hasn't even read the book or have a copy of it is telling me what the author did or did not use. Sure ok.
>>33020467
Yeah I'm not asking about what happened to Germany during a world war. I'm asking about what happened to the German economy after 1933. To 1939.
>>33020239
I watched 15 seconds and I still don't know what it has to do with it.
>>33020552
It tried to prepare it's aryan asshole for the rape of the century.
>>33020456
I have just been lurking, but if you want an explanation as to why employment increased greatly under Hitler, he did the following.
>Busted the unions, allowing for wages to drop and the labour market to reach equilibrium
>Little inflation of the money supply which allowed increases in interest rates and the liquidation of debt.
>>33020552
What did the Jews do to the Germans?
https://trutube.tv/video/6475/What-did-the-Jews-do-to-the-Germans#
>>33020525
>mind reading
>not so much a product of laws and commands
>a matter of spirit
>written directives not published
>oral directives and authorizations
>basic understandings of officials
No documents.
>>33020568
Then you don't have ears you retard.
Here, try this.
http://youtu.be/QV7JILRugOg?t=34m
>>33020628
lol kk, you're hopeless.
If Hitler had played nicely after the Sudetenland was allowed to return to Germany you'd likely have Danzig allowed to vote to rejoin Germany as well, this done to keep the Germans on side for for a possible war against the Soviet Union.
>>33020609
>employment increased greatly under Hitler
The opposite is true.
The Nazi Economic Miracle
https://trutube.tv/video/16057/The-Nazi-Economic-Miracle#
>>33020642
Nigger I watched the first 15 minutes of that shit, do you mean the part where he talks about Lenin and claims Bolshevism killed 100 million people (KEK)? WHat does that have to do with Bolsheviks killing Germans in Poland before Bolsheviks even existed in Poland?
>>33020112
http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html
And also I suggest that people watch the video posted in the OP it is very good.
>>33020651
He just told you, in his own words, that it was not documented. But I'm the hopeless one? Ok buddy.
>>33020751
On the eve of the February Revolution, in 1917, the Bolshevik party had about 23,000 members, of whom 364 were known to be ethnic Jews. According to the 1922 party census, there were 19,564 Jewish Bolsheviks, comprising 5.21% of the total. Jews made up 7.1% of members who had joined before October 1917. Among members of the Central Executive Committee of the Congress of Soviets in 1929, there were 402 ethnic Russians, 95 Ukrainians, 55 Jews, 26 Latvians, 13 Poles, and 12 Germans – Jewish representation had declined from 60 members in 1927. In the 1920s, of the 417 members of the Central Executive Committee, the party Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the People's Commissars, 6% were ethnic Jews.
>>33020748
No, from 34 minutes on, this is the reason why Jews are persecuted.
Its the rationale for Judeo-Bolshevism.
Saying that Jews and Communists are in and of themselves and there's no overlap is ridiculous.
>>33020730
Hey retard, your video agrees with my post.
>>33020696
>If Hitler had played nicely
Well maybe the Allies should have played nicely after WWI then. If you want to act like complete dicks, then don't expect everyone to act nicely in return.
>>33020938
explain plz.
>>33020350
>jellies
>When they depleted their reserves
k lol
Hitler ran through Germany's gold and banking reserves to nothing. From 900 million riechsmark to only 100 million riechsmark.
Major spikes in a lot of consumer products were common and by 1935 there were shortages of a lot of products.
Hitler never eliminated unemployment from it's previous levels, he only halved the work force by removing women, jews, leftist, and any non-germans, and in affect never made those same people employed, then the army drafted 4 million young men to fight and die making them no longer unemployed
td:lr hitler had never made those unemployed employed and the private sector never actually grew while in fact there were a lot of shortages and the like
>>33020897
>34:28
>in my particular opinion because I can't prove this...
kek
>>33020946
>allies impose punishment
>Germany tries for revenge against a way more powerful enemy
What the fuck did you guys think would happen?
>>33020992
I was agreeing with you, dumbass.
>>33020992
>Germany's gold
Haha. Implying that Germany had gold after WWI.
They created a new currency based on German labor.
>>33020992
“Germany’s unforgivable crime before the second world war was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit.” - Churchill to Lord Robert Boothby, as quoted in: Sidney Rogerson, Propaganda in the Next War (Foreword to the second edition 2001), originally published in 1938.
>>33020946
>Well maybe the Allies should have played nicely after WWI then.
Maybe Germany should have waited until that thirst for "vengeance" was gon and then petitioned the cooler heads at the League of Nations and not just started building guns.
And then it was FORGIVEN for doing this, and continued to fuck around afterwards.
>>33021077
>Haha. Implying that Germany had gold after WWI.
Just fucking stop.
>>33021077
>>33020992
"We were not foolish enough to try to make a currency coverage of gold of which we had none, but for every mark that was issued we required the equivalent of a mark’s worth of work done or goods produced. We laugh at the time our national financiers held the view that the value of a currency is regulated by the gold and securities lying in the vaults of a state bank." ~ Adolf Hitler, 1937 (CC Veith, Citadels of Chaos, Meador, 1949.)
>>33021016
>What the fuck did you guys think would happen?
What the fuck did you Jews think would happen?
>>33021000
>Membership rates of the communist parties
>Comintern
>Soviet Archives confirming international communist subversion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising
No, you're just being paranoid about Communism. And no, Jews have nothing to do with Communism.
Get the fuck out you goddamn kike.
>>33021136
>Just fucking stop.
You're the one making shit up, not me. Sorry to break it to you.
>>33012744
hitler would buss at a fawk nigguh till he grew tired
>>33021216
Here come the Jew accusations.
>>33020988
>Busted unions
Its literally in the first few sentences.
>>33021279
You can't expect there to be no consequences when you systematically destroy the lives of millions of people for no good reason. Or even for a good reason.
>>33021268
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gold
Now, please stop you shill.
>>33021345
Wait so the Jews supposedly destroying millions of lives, makes me a Jew? You haven't even explained how the Jews are involved in this.
>>33021387
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gold
>during World War II.
You were saying?
>>33021077
>1939
>Germany's foreign reserves were unsustainably low
>Nazi's default on their foreign loans and then base their currency on command economy barter
>>33021221
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Communism
"Judaism and Communism are one and the same." ~ HILARY COTTER, author of Cardinal Minszenty, The Truth About His Real "Crime," page 6
"Communism is Judaism. The Jewish Bolshevik Revolution was in 1917 Russia." ~ H.H. BEAMISH, N.Y. speech, 1937 ("The Secret Force" by Maurice Pinay)
“The Jew is an inborn communist” Otto Weininger, a Jew, Sex & Character, pp 311
“Some call it Marxism (Communism), I call it Judaism.” – Rabbi Stephen Samuel Wise - The American Bulletin, May 5, 1935. (Judaism is nothing but disguised, camouflaged Communism, therefore, Zionism is nothing but Communism)
“Communism was Jewish proposed, Jewish financed, Jewish led and Jewish operated. The most muderous regime this planet has ever known, was Jewish through & through.” ~ ("The Secret Force" by Maurice Pinay)
"Judaism gave birth to Marxism", "Marxism will rule the world", "Jews have a right to subordinate to themselves the rest of mankind and to be the masters over the whole earth. Now, indeed, this is the historic destiny of the Jews", "Judaism is communism", and "Jews will conquer the world and the human race." ~ Dr. Harry Waton, the American Jewish Marxist and Kabbalist
"The Communists (jews) are against religion (Christianity), and they seek to destroy religion; yet, when we look deeper into the nature of Communism, we see that it is essentially nothing else than a religion (Judaism)." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 138)
>>33017362
>At the end of the day Poland would not provoke a country that it knew was far stronger than it
Uh, they had an alliance with both France and England. That is precisely why they felt safe provoking Germany. Are you seriously trying to deny the German pogrom in Poland that started the war? Are you retarded?
>>33021424
>The draining of Germany's gold and foreign exchange reserves inhibited the acquisition of materiel, and the Nazi economy, focused on militarisation, could not afford to deplete the means to procure foreign machinery and parts. Nonetheless, towards the end of the 1930s, Germany's foreign reserves were unsustainably low. By 1939, Germany had defaulted upon its foreign loans and most of its trade relied upon command economy barter.[1]
>The draining of Germany's gold and foreign exchange reserves
Gee, I wonder who drained Germany's gold reserves...
>>33021291
>>Busted unions
I never mentioned busted unions.
>>33021472
>>33021418
>Not knowing for a long time the Reichsmark was on the gold standard after WW1
>Not knowing about the Nazi Gold
TOP KEK
>>33021269
>>33021505
I know, I did.
>>33021221
Everything here: >>33020850
>>33021436
Nice fake quotes.
>>33021472
The Nazi rearmament which was unsustainable....
>>33021471
Are you seriously suggesting some supposed pogroms are grounds for invasion and occupation for an indefinite period of time?
>>33021555
Yes... which means Hitler used up Germany's gold reserves...
But you said here >>33021077 that Germany didn't have gold after WW1, which is BS.
>>33021601
I did say that mate
>>33021552
Ok.
>>33021601
I meant *didn't shit sorry
>>33021405
>You haven't even explained how the Jews are involved in this.
Jews guaranteed American entrance into WWI if the British would continue the war, in return for Palestine. Then the Versailles Treaty.
>>33021651
>>33021518
What the ever living fuck are you talking about? You're talking about Weimar Germany now? And gold during World War 2? And that somehow proves that Hitler's economic miracle was simply selling gold that he didn't have?
>>33012744
>not watching this one almost every single day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJSBWD-h8Dw
The part at the end almost always makes me tear up.
>>33021767
SIEG HEIL bro.
>>33020850
>>33021552
Where are those statistics from?
>>33021779
Are fucking retarded?
You said Germany had no gold after WW1, then I proved that the Reichsmark was based on gold that the Reichsbank had, and then Hitler inherited this gold.
not only this, but after he drained the reichsbank's gold he enacted a policy of nazi looting gold from austria, nazi controlled danzig, poland, Czechoslovakia, etc.
>>33021729
No, those slant eyed, cartoon loving japs, got the US involved.
some1 can link a Nazi tribute called (sun symbol) DIE something something (sun)
i really cant find it again and its by far the best
>>33021892
>Hitler inherited this gold.
No, Hitler had no gold. Which was my point obviously since we were talking about Hitler's economy.
>drained the reichsbank's gold
They no gold. Why are you making this shit up? Where are you reading these lies?
>>33021834
Kara-Murza, Sergey. "Revolutionary (Socialist) Political Forces between February and October." Soviet Civilization. Vol. 1.
Herf 2008, p. 96.
Deutsch, Mark, "Alexander Solzhenitsyn as a Mirror of Russian Xenophobia". Moskovskiy Komsomolets. 10 January 2003
Pinkus 1990, p. 81.
>>33021932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJSBWD-h8Dw
>>33021932
https://trutube.tv/video/3770/Die-Flut-Kommt-The-Flood-Comes
>>33021972
Where did the gold go then? Care to provide a source for that statement?
>>33021892
"We were not foolish enough to try to make a currency [backed by] gold of which we had none"
"We were not foolish enough to try to make a currency [backed by] gold of which we had none"
"We were not foolish enough to try to make a currency [backed by] gold of which we had none"
"We were not foolish enough to try to make a currency [backed by] gold of which we had none"
"We were not foolish enough to try to make a currency [backed by] gold of which we had none"
- Adolf Hitler
>>33022066
>https://trutube.tv/video/3770/Die-Flut-Kommt-The-Flood-Comes
thanks based anon
youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUyDcGSMPEQ
>>33022099
>hitler would never lie about their pre-war resources to enable the allies to underestimate german war potential
kek
>>33021972
>No, Hitler had no gold.
You're wrong. Pic related.
Source: Adam Tooze "Wages of Destruction"
haha omg i hope none of you are americans, you guys are so pathetic getting a boner for men in uniform
>>33012710
anon, it's not nazis you should be afraid of
it's the goyim you should be afraid of
>>33022099
>Hitler would never lie
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1385135/Nazi-gold-worth-500m-using-R-A-F-aerial-photos-WW2.html
>>33021983
>>33022201
Oh so now you're just making shit up to explain away the actual documentary evidence? Ok, great.
>>33021562
Are you seriously retarded? There was no indefinite occupation. Germany offered peace before they even took Poland, just after they took the chunk the German people were living in back. Poland's refusal is Poland's problem.
>>33022271
See
>>33022253
>>33022216
I am the one saying and making shit up?
top lel
>>33022253
Hello. That is after World War 2. We are talking about the German economy from 1933-1939.
So tell me, how would German gold acquired during WW2 have any impact on its economy from 1933-1939?
>>33022267
http://www.sem40.ru/anti/7820/
It's in Russian.
>>33018161
>>33017896
>>33017682
it's fucking hilarious how the kike will cling to international law when it suits them
hypocrites, that only deserves the oven
>>33022331
You're really shit at this. Again, in Russian.
http://www.kara-murza.ru/books/sc_a/sc_a28.htm
>>33022310
>I am the one saying and making shit up?
Yes, you literally just invented a story, that Hitler probably lied, to explain away the fact that Hitler had no gold at his disposal to improve the economy of Germany in 1933.
>>33022326
see
>>33022216
Germany's central bank had it's gold reserves systematically lowered to almost nothing m8
>>33022411
>ignore the sources
>ignore the facts
>ignore the statistics
Nazi Germany had gold during 1933-1939
>>33022355
>>33022396
What indicated to you that I spoke or could interpret Russian?
How could you possibly cite these things if you don't either?
>>33022430
Just stop arguing with them.
Tooze spends like 3 chapters just talking about Germany's gold and foreign reserves. Long story short, Weimar Republic adds to Germany's gold reserves, Hitler comes to power and blows it all the fuck away in a few years on rearmament.
>>33022289
Which is why plans were already drawn up between Germany in Russia in such a way that Poland would cease to exist...
>>33022490
I do speak Russian...
They go back to the original documents and prove this Jewish Bolshevik crap to be a conspiracy.
>>33022364
It's funny how you have no evidence of me being Jewish.
>>33022553
Who? I can't understand moonbabble or can even verify that this was ever published.
>>33022513
Hitler didn't want war and didn't re-arm till he was forced to. You're either dishonest or a troll.
>>33022591
The two authors I just gave to you - Mark Deutsch and Kara Murza.
>>33022623
You're an idiot who has been proven wrong too many times.
>>33022513
Yeah hitler supporters are really in a personality cult like followers of the Kim Jong dynasty/family. They perception is completely distorted by propaganda and they believe that his is an infallible man with infallible plans, they believe each and every policy was infallible and nothing could be wrong with it in the slightest and anyone who says otherwise is working in a global commission of paid shillery and working for a secret society
>>33022430
No, that is gold and currency reserves. That is not gold only. I can't find that graph anywhere online.
>>33022553
The Bolshevik Jews were real. GTFO Jew.
>>33022473
No, they did not have gold. You haven't provided a single reference for that statement either. I have provided actual statements from Hitler himself that said they had no gold. Furthermore, they based their currency not on gold, but on German labor. Therefore, selling gold reserves, of which there were none, had no effect at all on the economic improvement, which you tried to originally suggest was nonexistent, yet now you appear to concede that there was improvement.
>>33022695
Read Tooze m8, he spends several chapters speaking about the nazi gold
but td:lr as the other user posted is perfect
"Weimar Republic adds to Germany's gold reserves, Hitler comes to power and blows it all the fuck away in a few years on rearmament."
>>33022704
Yes there were Jewish Bolsheviks and they made up a paltry percentage of the Bolshevik party. Your point?
>>33022663
>The two authors I just gave to you - Mark Deutsch and Kara Murza.
I searched the English literature for their names as well, there's nothing in English.
Why the fuck would you cite Russian literature in an English language debate/argument?
Are you literally retarded?
>>33022513
>>33022682
Jews would never troll a Hitler thread.
>>33022872
>Why the fuck would you cite Russian literature in an English language debate/argument?
Because they prove you wrong you idiot. Jesus Christ you're one dense fuck, just because it's not in English doesn't mean it's not right.
>>33022886
>give you a graph with a source
>omg sooooo jooish!
Yes, good arguments are definitely Jewish.
>>33022815
So what percent and what positions did they hold? School me.
>>33022811
I can't find anything about Tooze and pre-1939 Germany's gold reserves online. Nobody seems to talk about it online. Are you talking about Nazi Gold after WW2? Or do you have some online articles or anything about Tooze and gold? I can't find anything.
>>33022985
>>33020850
Here you go.
>>33022886
What a good maymay comrade
we sure showed those jews what was coming!!
I bet your mum will be so excited to hear you used an epik maymay XD on 4chan to derail a debate!!!
>>33023031
I posted the graph. It's from Tooze's book "Wages of Destruction" p. 72. You can download the book online. Just search in Google "Adam Tooze Wages of Destruction pdf".
>>33022954
>Because they prove you wrong you idiot. Jesus Christ you're one dense fuck, just because it's not in English doesn't mean it's not right.
Even if it were, THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME TO VERIFY IT
Are you literally this fucking stupid?
>>33023031
His book is not online, but here is the torrent link:
http://kickass.to/the-wages-of-destruction-the-making-and-breaking-of-the-nazi-economy-darkside-rg-laotzu-t3135535.html
here are another couple from him on that subject:
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40186123?uid=3739800&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21104397064337
and a good book on this subject too:
https://archive.org/stream/economicblockade012328mbp#page/n45/mode/2up
>>33023047
So the Katyn Forest massacre was performed by Nazis? Ethnic Russians? Who?
>>33023127
Translate it gai boi.
>>33023145
Well, Stalin ordered the massacre, so we should blame Georgians.
>>33012341
Is there any french suvbtitles for this movie ?
>>33017836
Sounds like an act of war to me.
>>33023198
>Translate it gai boi.
Really? So to prove my point in an English argument, I'm allowed to refer you to a Chinese historian where navigating through the literature requires an understanding of Mandarin?
>>33023239
Nobody cares about your opinion.
>>33023279
Yes.
>>33023279
Besides, this is a false analogy since I DID translate their work here: >>33020850
>>33023312
Then you're an irrational and not interested in any mutual understanding.
This is why nobody likes both Jews and Russians.
>>33023356
If I'm not able to read the literature to verify its published in context and in a peer-reviewed journal and that other literature doesn't contradict it, then its invalid.
>>33023462
>If I'm not able to read the literature... then its invalid
You see, this is why you're silly.
On the flip side, proving the connection between Jews and Bolshevism ought to be very easy. Show me the peer-reviewed articles in English proving that the Bolsheviks were primarily Jewish.
>>33023503
https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/40988-youtube-the-truth-about-immigration-what-they-wont-tell-you/
>>33023198
The Katyn Massacre, also known as the Katyn Forest Massacre (Polish: zbrodnia katy?ska, 'Katy? crime'), was a mass murder of thousands Polish military officers, policemen, intellectuals and civilian prisoners of war by Soviet NKVD, based on a proposal from Lavrentiy Beria to execute all members the Polish Officer Corps dated March 5, 1940. This official document was then approved (signed) by the entire Soviet Politburo including Stalin and Beria. The number of victims is estimated at about 22,000, with the most commonly cited number of 21.768.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria (Georgian)
Lots of sources describe him as a Jew, and state, he was talking Yiddish with Stalin's children. He also looks like a typical Jew.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria
>>33023619
I'm not watching a 2 hour video. Direct me to the pertinent parts.
And that's not a peer-reviewed article.
>>33023625
Beria wasn't Jewish.
>>33023769
Its an integrated presentation and I already did.
>>33023786
Only portions of that video talk about Jews and Bolshevism, not all of it, so which part is it?
>>33023831
Jesus Christ, I already did. Its in this thread in a direct reply to you which you obviously never viewed - just retardedly plowed over like an ignorant partisan hack.
This conversation isn't worth my fucking time.
>>33023871
Then link it to me you sperglord.
>>33023769
I'm believing he was Jewish till I see evidence he wasn't.
>>33023941
Do you realize what a stupid position that is? Confirmation bias at its finest.
>Beria was born in Merkheuli, near Sukhumi, in the Sukhumi district of Kutaisi Governorate (now Gulripshi District, Abkhazia, then part of the Russian Empire). He was a member of the Mingrelian ethnic group and grew up in a Georgian Orthodox family.[3][4][5]
>>33023999
Prove he wasn't Jewish if you feel so strongly. He was something. I'm listening.
>>33021899
>ww1
>>33024056
I just did.
There's literally no evidence that he was a Jew. It's you who should be providing evidence that he was.
>>33012341
It's really interesting but the narrative gets fucking weak at the end.
>>33024057
My appologies. WW1 didn't have so much to do with WW2 as German thirst for vengeance did. As for US involvement in Ww1, the whole US govt is to blame for that.
>>33024095
The Communist Revolution in Russia was Jewish from top to bottom. They were behind the October Revolution and Communism and the Soviet Union.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik_Revolution
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Marxism
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Empire
I'm done with this.
>>33024362
Not that guy and I am not picking either side, but what significance is there to there being a substantial amount of Jews in the early soviet government.
From what I understand you then go on and say that the whole religion of Jews are inseparably attracted to communism (even when communism is strictly atheist and would purge and theist)
