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I admit, I fell for the STEM meme, too.

>Heh, don't worry, kid. Study hard in a STEM field and you'll find a decent job, guaranteed.
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>>78762285
This is a growing problem desu
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>>78762285
So the whole Indians coming over and taking STEM jobs isn't just a meme?
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>>78762285
The only STEM field with guaranteed employment is engineering. Everything else is up to you. I should mention that, due to grade inflation, most employers now prefer STEM graduates to non-STEM graduates. I myself snagged a snug little management gig at a start-up about a year ago because of that even though my degree has nothing to do with what the company does.

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Should voting have an upper age limit?

Our current laws regulating voting were made back when people died before they could become stupid.

Because of that and young people growing more mature every day I think we should reconsider our current model of "everyone over 18 can vote". Lower the minimum age and put an upper limit like 55.
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>>78762353
If you up it from 18 to 40 sure
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>>78763322


Lets not get crazy.

Upping it from 18 to 30 should be fine.
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>>78762353
I agree, old farts here vote socialist, young people vote for right-wing parties. It should be from 10 to 25.
Heil Hitler.

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Is this game a COINCIDENCE ?
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When you walk away
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>>78762012
You won't hear me say
Ppeeease
Oh baaaby
Don't go
FUCK I remember that shit so hard why was it the best song ever
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>>78761971
I played this game when I was 11. What are you getting at OP?

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>Hopes of easy trade deals with the rest of the world also look illusory. Lawyers say Britain would have to replace all the EU’s 53 free-trade pacts, which would be hard with tough negotiators like South Korea or Mexico. Several big countries, including America, China and India, are negotiating new deals with the EU, from which a post-Brexit Britain would be excluded.

>A free-trading Britain, say Brexiteers, would no longer be held back by protectionist EU members. But other countries’ trade negotiators might find the British market of 65m consumers less alluring than the EU’s 500m. The top American trade envoy, Mike Froman, has said his country would not be interested in a bilateral deal with Britain. Agreements that China has signed with Iceland and Switzerland are lopsided towards the Chinese.

>Even if only some of these gains were at risk from Brexit, they would hugely outweigh the second effect, the economic benefit from cutting Britain’s annual net
contribution to the EU budget of some £8.5 billion ($12 billion). The budget gain is also swamped by likely losses from the third factor, lower foreign investment. Brexiteers
argue that this will be unaffected, but the evidence is that a large chunk of foreign investment, especially in financial services and cars, has come because of Britain’s EU
membership. Gains from a fourth possible factor, fewer onerous rules, are largely illusory. Analysis by the OECD, a rich-country club, finds that British labour and product markets are already among the least regulated of all its members

>Post-Brexit, Britain would find it harder to keep close foreign-policy and security links with the EU, not least because it would no longer be in the room. There is a broader geopolitical point, too. Partly because its foreign-policy role has grown, the EU has and security architecture. Brexit would weaken the EU—and so the West.

Brexitfags cucked their country so hard and they're happy about it, lmao.
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>>78761888
>a fucking leaf
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It's not about China - they are selfish fucks who hate that the UK keeps giving people independence referendums because they have significant territories that would vote out if they had the chance; Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong and parts of Inner Mongolia at least.

And the EU obviously has an incentive to not work with the UK to try to frighten other Euro countries off their own referendums. So no favours from them, either.

The UK needs to approach the commonwealth countries and say "dreadfully sorry chaps, we made a frightful bugger of it signing up with the Franco-German unification project. Our leaders at the time must have been at it before the sun was even over the yard arm. We want to fix this whole bloody mess". It's about re-engaging with Canada, Australia, India and all the rest of it.

And President Trump will be sympathetic to the UK too. His mother came from Scotland and as a fellow anti-globalist he'll be looking to make trade deals that actually benefit people instead of just the fucking hedge funds and third world dictators like usual.

Maybe we can even stop the stupid rivalry with Russia that benefits nobody at all except the most expensive and wasteful end of the military-industrial complex. The UK has lots that they want (even though they love to pretend that this is not so).

Approach commonwealth. Work closer with US. Warmer ties with Russia. We can still trade with China and the EU but if they think they can dictate terms then fuck them. The UK buys more from both China and the EU than it sells to them; they have more business to lose.
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>>78761888
I don't think it ever was about the money.

Reminder that Obama says that Brexit will cause UK to go to the back of the queue with regard to trade deals.

>back of the queue
>UK is now literally nigger tier in eyes of Obama
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Didn't he already walk back on this?
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>>78761826
It was a bluff. Now he has to eat it.
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https://streamable.com/22qo

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/leftypol/ thread

ITT we discuss complexities of left wing political thought that that most of the racist and privileged trump supporters on this website attack so savagely... if you have a problem with that, fuck off (or not, because the general population is getting more educated and its only a matter of time before most are enlightened, and you'll be a tiny minority).

women, lbtqi + gpoc (lgbtqi without gay white men, who do not face real discrimination anymore) are encouraged to post! Most insightful post by anyone falling within these demographics gets their post sticked on r/4chan (im a mod there)

white males are discouraged from replying to this thread, keep it civil.

anyone else max out their donations to bernie?
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I'm gay and I hate you almost as much as I hate niggers. Hitler did nothing wrong.
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>>78762216
fuck of lefties
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low quality bait

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>>78761801
The Commonwealth is led by an independent nation again, why would we want to leave now?
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>>78762070
No, I mean federalise further. Free tradez freedom of movement, a joint parliament, like the Imperial Federstion it looked like we were going to get in the early 20th century.
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Fuck off.

Christian's in countries such as Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and South-Eastern Turkey could join forces and gain an independent state. Egyptian Christian's would be an honorary member due to distance.

Personally I think middle Eastern Christian's are genetically identical with one another and are separate from Arab's. Just looking at the Ottoman empire tells us that they were all one identity of Aramaic speaking people.

They have the numbers:
Assyrian's in Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Jordan and abroad
>4 million
Lebanses Christian's in Lebanon and Abroad
>5.6 million
Egyptian Christian's in Egypt and Abroad
>15 million
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yeah it was called Lebanon (90% christian in the 1930's) then they let in a couple million Palestinian/Syrian Refugees and were subsequently cucked. Islam must be completely eradicated before Christianity in the middle east can exist.
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hahaha
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Would have to remove kebeb first so they can be a majority in their own country aand thats not gonna happen

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/opinion/sunday/artificial-intelligences-white-guy-problem.html?_r=0

"Artificial Intelligence Has A White Guy Problem"
>Warnings by luminaries like Elon Musk and Nick Bostrom about “the singularity” — when machines become smarter than humans — have attracted millions of dollars and spawned a multitude of conferences.

>But this hand-wringing is a distraction from the very real problems with artificial intelligence today, which may already be exacerbating inequality in the workplace, at home and in our legal and judicial systems. Sexism, racism and other forms of discrimination are being built into the machine-learning algorithms that underlie the technology behind many “intelligent” systems that shape how we are categorized and advertised to.

>Take a small example from last year: Users discovered that Google’s photo app, which applies automatic labels to pictures in digital photo albums, was classifying images of black people as gorillas. Google apologized; it was unintentional.

>A very serious example was revealed in an investigation published last month by ProPublica. It found that widely used software that assessed the risk of recidivism in criminals was twice as likely to mistakenly flag black defendants as being at a higher risk of committing future crimes. It was also twice as likely to incorrectly flag white defendants as low risk.
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>The reason those predictions are so skewed is still unknown, because the company responsible for these algorithms keeps its formulas secret — it’s proprietary information. Judges do rely on machine-driven risk assessments in different ways — some may even discount them entirely — but there is little they can do to understand the logic behind them.

Police departments across the United States are also deploying data-driven risk-assessment tools in “predictive policing” crime prevention efforts. In many cities, including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and Miami, software analyses of large sets of historical crime data are used to forecast where crime hot spots are most likely to emerge; the police are then directed to those areas.
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>At the very least, this software risks perpetuating an already vicious cycle, in which the police increase their presence in the same places they are already policing (or overpolicing), thus ensuring that more arrests come from those areas. In the United States, this could result in more surveillance in traditionally poorer, nonwhite neighborhoods, while wealthy, whiter neighborhoods are scrutinized even less. Predictive programs are only as good as the data they are trained on, and that data has a complex history.

>Histories of discrimination can live on in digital platforms, and if they go unquestioned, they become part of the logic of everyday algorithmic systems. Another scandal emerged recently when it was revealed that Amazon’s same-day delivery service was unavailable for ZIP codes in predominantly black neighborhoods. The areas overlooked were remarkably similar to those affected by mortgage redlining in the mid-20th century. Amazon promised to redress the gaps, but it reminds us how systemic inequality can haunt machine intelligence.

>And then there’s gender discrimination. Last July, computer scientists at Carnegie Mellon University found that women were less likely than men to be shown ads on Google for highly paid jobs. The complexity of how search engines show ads to internet users makes it hard to say why this happened — whether the advertisers preferred showing the ads to men, or the outcome was an unintended consequence of the algorithms involved.

>Regardless, algorithmic flaws aren’t easily discoverable: How would a woman know to apply for a job she never saw advertised? How might a black community learn that it were being overpoliced by software?

>We need to be vigilant about how we design and train these machine-learning systems, or we will see ingrained forms of bias built into the artificial intelligence of the future.
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I just want a robot who will love me.

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What is the best world news to watch that's in English? BBC World News is a bunch of biased crybabies, as evidenced by post Brexit idiocy. Though BBC News is having a real conversation right now that's not all one sided.

Shit tier networks like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS are ridiculous. Fox is slightly less shit, but covers the tiniest part of the world picture.

I realize tv news isn't the best market for actual news. What is out there that I'm missing? What do you watch.
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>>78761635
Al Jazeera
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>>78761635
Watching just one source is where you're fucking up Ameribro, Watch multiple sources as much as possible and know who your watching and make your own opinion.
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>>78762433
Shouldn't you be googling what the EU actually is, and if it would be a good idea to leave, or not?

Okay /pol/, I'm in a bit of a sticky situation. In the wake of the Brexit, I want to write a letter to Justin Trudeau to try and convince him to let me move to Canada, but I'm not entirely sure what to write. Can any of you guys help me? I'll start:

Dear Justin Trudeau,
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it's 2016.
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PUT OUT THE FIRE YOU FUCKING TWAT
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>>78761073
I'm a muslim trans-dragon-bi-gender.

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What would your ideal terrorist attack be?

By that, I mean what sort of terrorist attack would create an effect most beneficial to your political ideas?
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>>78761002
Bait
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>>78761002
Nice try CIA.
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>>78761052
>>78761105

;^)

Tell me why this book might be wrong and why citizenship doesn't have to be earned with service. Seems to me, The Terran Federation is right. Only citizens who have served should have to right to vote and hold public office. They have put blood and sweat into the state and have a say in how it operates. Those who do not serve should not have a say.

Even those who cannot be soldiers can still serve, of course. A place will be found for them so long as they have the will and desire.

Is there a reason we are not already doing this?
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>>78760876
because the state is the people not a clique of autocrats
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>>78760946

but the people cannot just vote for what they want without putting in effort to work for it. That is what all the gibbsmedats want but they do not deserve it. Would it not make more sense to force them to serve before they can request for free shit?
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Those forced into compulsory service would surely suffer some sort of indoctrination via the ruling regime d'jour, no matter their opinion. These people would share common ideals and common philosophies, regardless of socioeconomic status. This ensures and enables the subjugation, enslavement and crushing of the new lower class of non citizens, regardless of their political affinity. Genocide might follow in extreme cases.

Overall, a good idea for fiction, but a poor choice for anyone in the real world who has the gall to disagree with anything.

Why won't you invite a retard to your son's birthday party?

Have you got something against having people who will probably run around, drool on everything and shit all over the place being invited to a cherished, one-time-only event that your child should fondly remember for a lifetime?

Disgusting bigots.
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Because he's retarded
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lmao that letter is gonna get him bullied even more
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It's just a drain. You have to watch the little simp, and if anything goes wrong, he bites someone, shits himself, falls in the pools, suddenly you're the bad guy. It's easier just not to invite him and let everyone else have an enjoyable time.

If reality has a liberal bias, why is the left so quick to censor or shout down any opposing views?

In my experience, anywhere views are allowed to be freely expressed the consensus gears toward the right.

Is there anything to back this up?
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>Reality has a liberal bias
>Biologically XY chromosomes and a dick mean you're male, XX chromosomes and vagina mean you're a woman and nothing can change that
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>>78760514
Well, the anti-metaphysical views of Marxist ideology pretty much promote the goal of a "heaven" on earth. So to these people as this ideology completely shapes their world view, yes, their reality does have a "liberal bias".
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>>78760514
a nigger would think that. In reality, most reporters lean left, so most news pieces could hardly be called impartial.

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