X-T2 officially announced.
> 24.3MP APS-C X-Trans CMOS III Sensor
> X-Processor Pro Engine
> 0.77x 2.36m-Dot OLED Viewfinder
> 3.0" 1.62m-Dot 3-Way Tilting LCD Screen
> Internal UHD 4K Video & F-Log Gamma
> Built-In Wi-Fi Connectivity
> 325-Point Intelligent Hybrid AF System
> Up to 8 fps Shooting and ISO 51200
> Weather-Sealed Body; Two UHS-II SD Slots
> Film Simulation and Grain Effect Modes
US$1.599.-
Sonyfags BTFO?
Official video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e27d1G6jgIg
I don't understand fujifilm' lineup strategy. How does an xt2 compare to an xpro2? Why do they both exist alongside one another?
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-t2-first-impressions-review
Where are the fucking sample images
Are RAF files still going to get JUST'd in Lightroom?
>>2878154
the main difference is form factor
one is rangefinder-style, the other is slr-style
top view
>>2878160
That makes sense. I guess I didn't even realize that the viewfinder is in the center. Gross.
It actually shoots at 14fps with the grip, at least that is what the Fuji Guys video just said. Incredibly fast.
>>2878178
In Boost mode might I add, which also increases EVF refresh rate from 60fps to 100fps and a whole host of other stuff.
>>2878154
Fujifilm consider the X Pro line the flagship line but the XT line usually out specs the x pro line. The Main difference is the form factor (hybrid EVF rangefinder style vs EVF DSLR style only)
With the X pro line you are mainly paying for the hybrid form factor, the XT line will generally outperform it in every way.
>>2878154
As the other anon said, it's basically just form factor preference. The XT2 offers a few paper advantages over the X-Pro2, like 4k, improved AF, and the battery grip, while the X-Pro2 has its hybrid viewfinder as the main selling point.
Fuji has an interesting brand strategy that I haven't seen around the camera industry very often. Instead of clearly differentiated models with totally different specs and price points, they offer the same guts in different form factors and charge similar prices. I kind of like it.
>>2878181
EVF refresh rate of 100fps is pretty crazy
pretty neat how the vertical grip bumps it up to proper pro-mode performance
Is this the thread where i should ask what the 50f2 is for?
But did they fix shitty skin reproduction?
>>2878193
I expect the XPro2's incoming firmware update will give it the new AF features. I think they said 4K won't be available on the XPro2 though.
>>2878211
Cheaper, smaller, WR alternative to 56mm 1.2 Like the 23mm F2 soon to be released I guesss
![Angled_screen[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6CIyDYv.jpg "Angled_screen[1].jpg")
Heres an interesting element. No leaks mentioned this but x-t2 has dual hinge system for the flip out screen. Cant find a shot of the mechanism itself.
>>2878218
XPro2 wont shoot 4k due to heat, or if it ever does (I doubt it) It would be extremely limited, Fuji have already confirmed that it will not get 4k due to heat.
>>2878244
It only flips out to the right (towards the grip) it can not tilt to the left also. If you want to see a better angle of how it works look for the fuji guys hands on video.
>>2878255
one way tilt is enough for vertical shooting
>>2878255
but both are sealed cameras, how is xt1 better at dealing with heat? its the same processor as well
I have a boner.
>>2878299
Eh this could depend on plenty of factors. It sounds odd that X-Pro2 with its larger body wouldn't be able to dissipate heat as well. Being a sealed body doesn't mean jack here.
Great, more faggots posting gear threads about this and fucking Sony.
Pros use canon or nikon, not special snowflake tier Sony and fuji shit
>>2878194
Refresh rate is measured in Hz m80
>>2878149
> still shit battery
> still no practical RAW format
> still a bunch of useless features
When I can use Lr and Ps as easily as DNG/NEF/CR2, I'll be impressed. Till then, it's a peice of junk to me, can't do proper studio shoots, magazines won't accept that nonsense. D810 is doing me well.
>>2878310
look its this canonfag again
>>2878317
>Refresh rate is measured in Hz m80
"Hz" is another way of saying "events per second", in this case frames per second, or fps
>>2878317
>still no practical RAW format
What's wrong with the one Fuji uses? Other than DNG, they are all proprietary shit which require companies like Adobe work with the camera manufacturers to implement it.
>still a bunch of useless features
Doesn't every modern digital camera have plenty? If the camera doesn't allow customization to hide or ignore such stuff, it's a problem.
>>2878318
Don't reply.
>>2878319
Hz is the correct one. You don't measure screen refresh rate in fps and fps is separate from the screen refresh rate anyway. Refresh rate stays constant, separate frames displayed per second might not.
>>2878321
Yes, Hz is the correct term. The thing is when anon talked about "frames per second" there was no confusion on my part and I instantly understood what he meant. A constant framerate. Truly he would have been better off talking about Hz because language is a tool to minimize the chance of confusion and Hz is a better term in that case. Since I was not confused I didn't notice how someone else could have been. An error on my side. I apologize.
>>2878323
Apology accepted anon.
>>2878317
>Till then, it's a peice of junk to me, can't do proper studio shoots, magazines won't accept that nonsense.
"hey great pics you shot there, what system did you use?"
"fuji x-t2 with the 90mm f2 lens"
"oh ok. sorry, but we can't use those shots for our magazine then."
I like it. I just prefer the Xpro 2 even though I'm left eye dominant so the viewfinder placement isn't ideal. Now just going to wait for the upgrading gearfags to sell off their Xpro 2's so I can buy one used.
My X-T10 is in Sweden getting fixed because of a hot pixel issue, when I get it back I'll have to seriously think when I'm going to upgrade.
>internal 4K with log gamma
>dat new fuji sensor
>dem film simulations
>weather sealed
muh dick desu
>>2878350
>internal 4K with log gamma
I think you can only output 4K with log gamma. Internal is fixed. I might be wrong but this is what I read from a quick spec sheet.
>>2878336
This guy knows what's up.
It's the same as letting them know you use a mirrorless camera. They just won't hire you or use your pics. They just shake their head and let out a little laugh followed by "prosumer".
>>2878154
>Why do they both exist alongside one another?
Lifestyle accessories for different tastes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRAKu5IGM00
nice to see proper video features make it to Fuji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp57Zg7FGBY
>Do I "not" see rolling shutter
I'm new.
What mount does Fuji use? MFT? Because it looks hella small
what's the deal with .raf in lightroom?
>>2878149
>$2100 AUD
kill me senpaitachi
>>2878396
X-Mount, it's their own system
>>2878194
a6300 has 120fps mode. look at sonys website.
Can anyone confirm that the EFX500 flash can be controlled wirelessly by the XT2??
>>2878398
>what's the deal with .raf in lightroom?
Adobe is lazy and incompetent.
A dev in his basement is capable of making a 1st rate raw converter capable of handling raf's (iridient dev), but adobe can't get it right.
Someone post the portrait comparison between blurry no-details LR and the photoninja "pore master”.
>>2878457
Pretty sure most of those are bullshots. The LR version anons have used is outdated or something is simply wrong with it. My LR raws from .RAF files look absolutely fine, really sharp and not blurry in the least even in 100% crops. Photoninja produces sharper results on some content, partly due to the fact that it doesn't apply the automatic lens distortion correction which LR forces on you when using XF lenses and partly due to aggressive very fine detail sharpening.
>>2878255
>Fuji have already confirmed that it will not get 4k due to heat
Do you have source on that?
Hope they add F-Log though, there shouldn't be any hardware limitations with that.
Oooo it's time to add to the collection!!
>>2878484
>collection
>>2878336
That makes no sense if the pics are good who cares? Is that not the point of photography?
>>2878321
>Hz is the correct one. You don't measure screen refresh rate in fps and fps is separate from the screen refresh rate anyway.
The question is, does that line in Fuji's specification imply that the VF is refreshed 100 times per second, or the sensor/processor is also able to supply it with 100 new frames per second? I believe it's the latter, since refresh rate is not that important (unless it's a field-sequential OLED panel).
>>2878484
>owning more than 1 camera of the same sensor
stop
>>2878466
Glad Im not the only one who thinks my photos look fine in lightroom.
After I saw that comparison I started getting really anxious
>>2878218
The XP2 is apparently getting speed and accuracy improvements, but not the whole AF customization menu thing that's on the XT2.
>>2878238
the 35 eq i understand but f2 on an APS-C 50 seems slow for portraits doesn't it?
>>2878818
Not really because the price will be low, the IQ will be high, it's weather sealed, and it's only .2 slower than a 50 1.8 which is the most popular lens for aps-c portraits due to the low cost and good focal length
>>2878824
you're right.
>>2878321
>What's wrong with the one Fuji uses? Other than DNG, they are all proprietary shit which require companies like Adobe work with the camera manufacturers to implement it.
you can't seriously be complaining about proprietary raw formats. The reason I hate fuji raws is because they're nearly unusable in Lr.
Neither can I tether to my computer. Another bump on the road for fuji there, and why it's not usable to me.
>>2878857
Do you actually own a Fuji or do you just listen to /p/ memes? The whole "loss of detail" thing with LR is only noticeable when comparing the same shot at 100% in two different converters, and LR does a much better job with the color, contrast, etc. that are the whole point of shooting Fuji in the first place. Calling .RAFs "unusable" in LR is absolutely ridiculous.
>>2878864
I've used it, haven't owned one but I have tried and tested the XP2 under studio conditions.
>>2878818
>F2
>slow
The intensity of the light is the same.
>F2
>not enough B O K E H
get out
also 56 1.2
The 50 f2 will likely be cheap in the sense that it'll be a common double gauss design. Why you wouldn't just adapt literally any 50/2 from anywhere for likely less than half the price would be beyond me.
>>2878874
would not be able to compete with the Sony F and FS lineup, especially with the x-mount.
>>2878893
>M42 Helios 44 or 77
You mean 1/10th-1/5th the price
do you actually take pics or just store gear?
>>2879039
I don't know senpai.
>Those film simulations
>That glass
>DIALS
Here's the official catalogue with example pictures
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_t2/pdf/index/x_t2_catalogue_01.pdf
>>2879063
>http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_t2/pdf/index/x_t2_catalogue_01.pdf
This pdf makes them look like shit. Some of them look really good so its frustrating.
>>2878405
No it can't. Got to use another flash in master mode to act as the transmitter (infra red!)
>>2879059
>film simulations
Nothing more than a LUT and grading in post. Very, very few things come backed with their final color from the camera. Post contributes a lot to the final look of a video piece.
>That glass
Literally any Cooke will look better than Fuji glass, and it won't be focus by wire either.
>DIALS
Cinema camera GUIs rely on 1 or 2 dials and a bunch of hot buttons to navigate and set menu and film settings. Not to mention you rarely touch them once you start shooting unless you have to shoot something with a different aesthetic(slow mo, different shutter speed).
>>2879059
>Those film simulations
Everything is color-graded in post these days. If you're using film simulation for serious cinema material on a camera where a flat or log mode is available, you're doing it wrong.
>That glass
All of which is utterly irrelevant for cinema since it's focus by wire with no gear couplings, isn't designed for consistent light transmission and color reproduction, etc.
>DIALS
Cinema cameras are professional tools, no one really wants retro UI elements on those.
>>2878857
>The reason I hate fuji raws is because they're nearly unusable in Lr.
Have you ever even tried? There's literally no difference whether I import .RAF, .CR2 or .NEF files to my LR. Nothing that I notice when I edit them, no problems opening them, no problems exporting and no problems in PS either. Had I not known which camera the shot was taken with, I literally wouldn't notice a difference... at least not due to the file format used. I don't have a problem with them being proprietary. I just fail to see the distinction between "Fuji raws" vs others.
X-T2 is supporting tethered shooting to LR with a plugin.
I still think film simulations dont look like film nor do they even look particularly good anyway.
Just a gimmick.
>>2879347
Well, nobody cares what you think.
>>2879347
Sorry dude, but it's true; noone cares
>>2878893
Autofocus, weather resistance; it may be $300 or less
usually how long would it be after the XT-2 has dropped for the XT-1's price to drop guys? I want to upgrade to the XT-1 but dunno how long to wait so I'd know when to start saving up
>>2879488
Start saving now, the prices will drop rather quickly after the x-t2 hits places like eBay cos people will start shilling their xt1s
>>2879395
The 35/2 is already $400. It's not a retrofocal design either, I'm guessing, because mirrorless. I really doubt the 50/2 will be $300, $400 would be the minimum. Unless they literally take an unmodified off the shelf lens design and adapt it to mirrorless.
Personally hype for 23/2. Also triple/quad linear motor update for older lenses when.
>>2879598
I'm also hyped for the 23mm f/2. The 35 f/2 was $100 for a long time, I was thinking of buying one but I didn't.
>>2879598
>>2879680
>>2879395
>>2878893
So I was at a Fuji demo day today. I got a brochure. No clue what the 50/2 will be, but the 56/1.2 is very similar to a NOCT-Nikkor.
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>>2879932
>>2879598
Why else would it be a 50/2 instead of a 56/2?
>>2879680
>The 35 f/2 was $100 for a long time
what?
>>2880047
Oops, meant $100 off. I would have bought two if they were only 100 bucks.
