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>>2849470
God Bless Donald Trump
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>>2849485
I can't understand why ilbtards are calling trump racist when he is obviously not.
Good shots so far. As a non-american these people are more interesting as subjects, as we don't really have rednecks like this in our country.
Y u no flash with the Fuji? The skin tones at that high an ISO look pretty bad.
>>2849511
I dunno, it's probably all of the racist shit he's said.
>>2849530
I was using the TCL-X100 and the converter casts a shadow because it gets in the way of the onboard flash. Didnt bring an external.
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>>2849507
Not bad, I met Donald Trump this morning but he was a bit runny. I need to eat more fibers and less dairy stuff.
Didn't take any shots because I find it disgusting when people are making photos of turds.
>>2849573
I hope whoever wins this election passes laws that will introduce more fiber into the american diet.
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>>2849575
are these people bolivians? no way those are "americans".
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>>2849577
Of course they aren't Americans. What American in their right mind wouldn't want to make America great again?
>>2849577
>bolivians =/= americans
Is this some kind of meme I'm unaware of? Some kind of Anglo-american jargon an European like me hasn't heard before?
>>2849587
Because they clearly are Bolivian illegals.
>>2849551
racist is going the way of words like retard if you sjw faggots keep using it indiscriminately. i swear to fucking god that word has lost all meaning now, especially with its late redefining "racism is prejudice PLUS power, checkmate yt's"
get fucked
>>2849611
Or words like "faggots"! I hate when people use a word incorrectly and without discretion!
>>2849611
that you can't see the difference between what faggot has already been for years and losing any true meaning in a word like "racist" is pretty fucking funny
>>2849613
Whatever, faggot retard racist.
>>2849577
bolivia is in south america though, so how would they not be americans? where do you think bolivia is, africa? (common mistake)
>>2849589
actually they are probably the U.S. born children of some rich coke lords who came here in the 70s
>>2849576
Why did you post this? Shit IQ imo. Lot's of other great photos though.
>>2849551
Like what?
>>2849587
The USA's term for ourselves is "American". No other country's people is called "American" is US English.
Yes, it is like one country in Europe calling itself "European" and not wanting to call anyone else that. Americans don't care.
>>2849667
Uh, the way he treats groups of people as a single monolithic entity?
That time he called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals?
>>2849672
>That time he called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals?
There is nothing racist about that statement, and if you knew anything about logic or sentence structure, which you clearly don't, you'd know that.
Other than that, he is absolutely right that Mexican IMMIGRANTS ILLEGALLY entering the U.S. are most definitely rapists and criminals. If you can find some illegal, Mexican immigrants who aren't taking my taxes or a cuck's such as yourself, that would be fantastic, but they don't exist. maga
>>2849680
lol, the only thing worse than a racist is a weaselly racist who thinks he's a logician.
get fukt, kiddo. i hope you enjoy another 8 years of liberal rule. ;)
>>2849684
>lel ur a kid and a racist hurr durr BTFO
Great arguments, libtard degenerate (who probably can't vote), you really BTFO my everything. I assume you'll be on suicide watch when Clinton is in prison and Trump wins, so I pray to Kek you find the will to go on. not really, kys and make /p/ great again.
In this day and age, I really don't understand how you can be intelligent and a republican.
>>2849695
>(who probably can't vote)
lol what does that even mean? that i'm a felon? that i'm too young?
wrong on both accounts. i've never even been arrested, and this will be my fourth presidential election.
feel free to continue on with your daddy issues, though. i'm sure voting republicron will finally make you a real man's man.
Great pictures, awesome Tones. American Politics is just crazy
>>2849672
illegal immigrants jumping the border from Mexico aren't a race
>>2849792
agreed. fucking burgerminds
>>2849672
>immigrant
Missing a word there, m8. Begins with an "i".
>>2849786
>i've never even been arrested
golly jee, turns out you aren't a complete degenerate after all. i like how once again you have no arguments, like all liberals.
>daddy issues
>a real man's man
projecting kek, all liberals do this. also i like how you assume i'm young when you're only on your fourth presidential election. you've done enough damage to yourself, time to lurk more.
>>2849944
Not him, but even if clinton were to go to prison (she won't) it wouldn't be until well after her potential term. You don't understand how that system works, clearly.
Also, how does illegal immigration tie to rape? I'd love to see some statistic that puts even 5% of male illegals as proven directly responsible for rape. Let alone 50%, or 100%. Not "just think about it" or "If you knew anything" but a direct citation from a legitimate source.
Also, if evading paying taxes is part of your issue, you should be looking to most of the fortune 500 companies in the USA, and if you actually knew how tax law worked, you'd realize also that most income for people making less than 50,000 per year isn't taxed anyways. So you're not missing out on much. That's one of my favorite arguments from republicans. On one hand, they bitch that the lower class isn't paying taxes anyways, and then also bitch that illegal immigrants (who are almost exclusively in the lower class) is gaming the system because they aren't paying the taxes that they would be paying if they had immigrated legally.
They also can't take advantage of things like food stamps, medicare, medicaid, social security, and all of the other government programs available to citizens, so no, they really aren't leeching nearly as much as conservative racists like to pretend they are.
>>2849949
>(she won't)
Actually, friend, she very much will, but I concede that it won't be until after a potential term. pissing the other guy off about it being before the election was just to rustle his jimmies (which clearly worked kek). don't assume I don't know how it works because I counter-shitpost on 4chan.
>how does illegal immigration tie to rape?
Thanks for only throwing minor insults about my intelligence, I appreciate that lol. Firstly, there are a myriad of reliable sources that depict the percentage. If you'd "love to see some statistics" that put the number at even 5%, you obviously haven't been looking.
>>2849967
Then post one.
>>2849949
The fortune 500 companies keep their money in tax havens because our corporate tax, not our income tax, is astronomical. That is why big companies like Norfolk Southern want to merge with a Canadian railroad company because Canada has lower corporate tax than we do, just to give an example. Low income tax is absolutely no good if corporate tax is inversely high; the money will become corporate taxable, and rich executives will not reinvest in their companies. Only Neo-cons like Cruz want things to stay this way.
Making a little over 15-20k in most states is taxable, so unless you have children, that 50k is most definitely getting taxed, not sure how you think they aren't getting taxed. I also never mentioned lower class people, you conflated illegals with lower socio-economic class U.S. citizens, which are absolutely separate issues and separate groups of people. I never claimed to be against poor people, like all liberals think republicans are.
The biggest issue about illegal immigration? That when/if they become legal, they are a massive drain on the system, as you've pointed out. As illegals, they take jobs that crooked business owners pay them to do for less than a U.S. citizen is willing to work for, all so they can wire it back to Mexico, not helping our economy at all. Why all American citizens, regardless of race or political affiliation, aren't against illegal immigration by the obvious economic consequences that are tethered to it is beyond me. Whether they are legal or illegal is inconsequential, and why non-patriotic, anarchic liberals think you have to be a racist to be against immigration is also beyond me.
>>2849969
I am absolutely against illegal immigration, but I'm also against people who say that illegal immigrants are a huge drain on the economy, and that they're rapists.
Rich people saying "if you lower our taxes, maybe we'll start paying them in stead of hiding our money" is a lot like saying "trickle down economics will work you guys, trust us! once I buy my 4th house and 2nd yacht, I promise to raise salaries and hire more people!" which is proven untrue, over and over.
yes, corporate tax rate is high. So high that it's hard to afford to pay your CEO 400% more than your average employee. Such bullshit, right?
The issue isn't tax rates, the issue is the way we've set up our economy, and our companies. A major company has direct real responsibilities to its shareholders, meaning any move they can make to give those people more money is one they'll likely take. Even if it's terrible for the state of the country as a whole. No decision or change that will remove money from those pockets will ever be taken. If lowering tax rates means higher amounts of money being given to the government than what is happening currently, it isn't going to happen, at all.
>>2849575
Deport them all. Including you.
>>2849975
What you don't understand is that in this world of porous borders, every single country is essentially fighting each other's tax rate. Why else would companies build stuff overseas?
You're also retarded (maybe i should use the term racist? ) to think that the behavior of a group does not change under external influence.
You can't tax CEOs 300% more than the average worker or tax "hurr evil corporations" and expect them to stick around.
Socialism has not ever worked and by having even a simple grasp of economics you would understand. Even Canada and Sweden are starting to succumb to the economic numbing effects of socialism. The only reason they managed to pull it off for so long, compared to Venezuela, is that they were quite a bit richer.
>>2849975
You're close, but not quite. You conflated income tax with corporate tax. Their low income tax is what keeps them rich and the high corporate tax is what keeps jobs out of this country, hence the incessant argument for minimum wage increase, because we're quickly heading towards an economy where only those jobs can exist.
We absolutely have a parasitic relationship with large corporations in this country, but most corporations are small businesses anyway (closing down at a terrifying rate). Don't assume lowering corporate tax *only* gives big corporations freedom to hoard more money, it also gives small businesses freedom to actually exist. Lower corporate tax, raise import tax and we can attempt to pay for the crippling debt we've accrued in the past 16 years. I'm tired and it is Memorial Day Weekend, I'm gonna visit family. So God Bless, thanks for being a good sport with some good dialogue, I'm sorry /p/ I didn't post a single fucking image kek. MAGA.
>>2849982
I do understand it, but that doesn't mean we should lean into it. Most manufacturing is done in China. How does that look for MOST of the population of China? Is it because China is so great? or is it because there are a few very rich people in charge of exploiting the entire lower class?
And I'm sorry if you think that scaling tax rates are somehow unfair, but if the country needs a road, the guy with a billion dollars can afford to help build it a lot more than someone with $1000. Does it suck to be the billionaire? Y... well, no.
>>2849983
Small businesses have ALWAYS failed at an alarming rate. Because turns out, Most people's Uncle Fred who decided to start a car dealership don't know what the fuck they're doing. People start companies based on what they want to do, rather than what there is a market for in their area. It's not new, and it won't change from lowering taxes. If you start a high end pet grooming service in the middle of rural Pennsylvania, you're going to fail even if the government is paying YOU 5% of your earnings every year.
MOST of the money in the country resides in the top echelon of people and companies. if you set your taxes in a way that specifically help the people holding 10% of the money, it's going to help the people holding the other 90% to take that money.
Since recovering from 2008, when tons of people were taking pay cuts and losing jobs, there has been a substantial recovery. Since that recovery, when many companies have more money than they did 8 years ago, what is happening? Look who's getting raises back to where they were in 2006. Is it the workers? you bet your fuck it isn't.
It's human nature. EVERYONE wants more money, all of the time. People making minimum wage want a raise, and a guy who took home 400 million last year wants a raise too, because human nature isn't set up in a way to ever feel the concept of "enough". It's evolutionary. Unfortunately, certain people are better equipped to hire a $40 million a year legal team to find ways to keep getting more money. Most everyone else only has the option to work an overtime shift on Saturday.
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>>2849944
If you're older than me, you're too old to be on 4chin.
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>>2850049
So you're leaving this year. Glad to hear that.
>>2850040
>hit and killed by an unlicenced illegal alien
holy kek, memes are actually becoming real
>>2850114
Speaking of licences.
Did California fix the issue that lets illegals vote yet?
"I love the chinese, the best dim-sum is made at the trump tower grill!"
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>>2849989
You're still off in assuming people don't know what they're doing. Yes, people have definitely underestimated the responsibilities of owning a business and have failed, obviously. I've had relatives who have done the same and they payed for it, but its a gross over-simplification (and extremely cynical and unrealistic) to say that people start whatever business they want whenever they want and just hope for the best.
The dealer I bought my car from has 9 children (I've met them all) and held a BS in Criminal Justice and makes enough to cover the cost of college for his kids and their vehicles, so assuming everyone is an invalid wannabe entrepreneur is a very damning attitude, aside from being patently false. Furthermore, saying its human nature to want more, and bringing up a red herring like "human nature isn't set up in a way to ever feel the concept of 'enough'" has nothing to do with, and is no argument against, lowering corporate tax. Obviously, this is anecdotal, but neither of us have brought up statistics and my point stands.
The recovery is a farce, as inflation has gone up, and the debt has gone up at least $10 trillion dollars in the last 8 years, partly by way of bailing out big corporations who have hoarded it. So here's the dilemma: Do we raise income tax and just assume that will fix the situation, even though if we taxed citizens who make over 250k dollars per year 100% of their income it won't pay for a single entitlement, or do we make an actual attempt to do something before every corporation other than fast food and cheap retail chains leave by lowering corporate tax (so big companies like Norfolk Southern don't just ship our coal/jobs to China, but also potential taxes)? We don't need to raise minimum wage, we need to get "real" jobs back in the country before your town and mine look like Detroit.
>ISO 5000
I'd lower the ISO and have a longer exposure, you've got wiggle room with the exposure as so far you don't get much motion blur, whereas the noise is your biggest IQ problem here.
Also I think the white balance could maybe use a small adjustment towards the warm side
>>2849719
so then you disagree with the republicans who fought to give women the right to vote; passed Civil Rights; and freed the nigger slave class with emancipation?
>>2850140
>Literally making shit up and then using quotation marks to imply it's an actual quote.
Just kill yourself.
>>2851147
Can you not read?
>>2851153
back to /b/
Fuckin hell the second half of this thread...
This is /p/. Not /b/. Not /pol/.
More talk about photography, less talk about which candidate you pleasure yourself to each night.
Thanks.