Hi /p/,
just recently I undertook my first attempt at photography (in Milan). Id like honest advice for a newbie. If this thread is not allowed sage the fuck out of it.
I used a canon EOS 350d with a stock lens (shit) and a free trial for lightroom.
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aside from rule of thirds i know nothing about composition. I dont know much about a cameras capabilities aside from surface level stuff either. (i can shoot manual and get the gist of F/ AP. and ISO)
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All my images have too much noise- how can i reduce this with the shit camera that i have ?
anyway im going to wait till i get some advice before i post more- thanks for looking
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>>2827757
Buy a better lens, that isn't noise in a lot of them; it's motion blur.
>>2827757
>All my images have too much noise- how can i reduce this with the shit camera that i have ?
You can't. It's an older camera, an older sensor. Back then ISO 800 was noisy. You can either put up with the noise or shoot at a lower ISO which will require more light to shoot at the same apertures/dof.
>>2827774
>It's motion blur
Not with a lot of those shutter speeds, it's clearly noise removal in post.
>>2827749
Colour and composition come off as really dull, like you're a tourist. Put more thought into your shots, and get better with Lightroom. Pirate the full version of Lightroom, and shoot in RAW if you aren't already.
If you want to get really serious, get an old SLR film camera and practice on that, using the DSLR to scan the negs. Not being able to see the finished product until it's back from the chemists and having a very limited amount of shots will put a lot of pressure on you to get great shots, and force you to learn the in and outs of a camera.
>>2827749
If you can spare an extra $80-100 go get a canon 50mm 1.8. And don't shoot with anything but that for a while. It'll allow you to get the shallow depth of field look (blurry background). And for the price, you can't get a better lens. It will really help you get some better photos, because that stock lens is seriously terrible, especially if you have the one from 2005.
As far as your editing goes. You need to shoot RAW, it will allow you to make better changes to your images, and retain a lot of information. For the coloring of your photos, go find some tutorials on youtube for image processing for images that you think look good. When you figure out the controls of lightroom, you'll get a better idea of how all the tools work, and you can start working on your own style.
And most importantly, study a little bit about composition. The two most important things I find for composition are the rule of thirds, and leading lines. Don't focus on meme compositions like golden ratio, just focus on the composition basics, and then work from there. You can eventually experiment with different compositions to figure out what looks good.
Whenever you have the opportunity to, browse Instagram or Flickr, and look at what other people are doing, so you can get some ideas for yourself in the future.
I personally don't like film, like the poster above me. It's pretty expensive, a pain in the ass to deal with, and has a longer learning curve than digital, because it can take a long time to get your results. But they don't really require any processing afterward, as far as color goes. Stay with digital if you already have one.
Put more thought in composition.
In examples like
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>>2827749
the subject doesn't stand out from the background at all.
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>>2827755
Those aren't really interesting at all, it's really just the crappy tourist photo without a story and without a point.
>>2827754
kinda works, but you may want to go for a fully symmetric an square image. Like this it looks like a half-assed try.
The gradient is nice.
>>2827756
La Madonnina in the center and the cropped tower on the left don't really do for me.
Don't really worry about technical aspects for the moment.
>>2827847
>And most importantly, study a little bit about composition. The two most important things I find for composition are the rule of thirds, and leading lines.
Agreed. But don't forget that symmetry can work and be very powerful in the right situation.
Also, a maye more advanced concept, is about the weight in the image, so that no area is too crowded and no area is too empty.
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>>2827847
I feel that starting with digital, if you immediately watch where you go wrong and take mental notes about your errors, while working fully manual, is the best way to learn. Having to wait for the film to develop and probably forgetting the settings you used in the meantime is not a good way to learn.
That said after years of digital I now quite enjoy film as a mean to slow down and really think about what I am doing when I am shooting for fun and not for results.
Pic kinda related, my favourite pic taken in Milan a couple months ago, with an old rangefinder from the 60's
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>>2827943
>symmetry can work and be very powerful in the right situation.
Oh yeah, no doubt. I just figured that went without saying, everybody is aware of symmetry in photography.
>working fully manual, is the best way to learn
It may be. I shot some rolls of film to start off photography, and I've even shot recently with film. My personal preference is that I like to see the results immediately. Not wrong either way though
>>2827822
Any informative guides on colour &composition theory or is it just intuition?
>>2827847
thank you! I will look into all these things
>>2827943
would it be possible to bring out the subject in those images in post production or it it more about composition?
I appreciate anyone who replied
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Don't get the nifty fifty as >>2827847 said.
It is a great lens but you won't get much out of it on a crop sensor, the equivalent on a 1.6x sensor would be a 30 or 35mm prime.
Only don't worry about buying new equipment, you don't need it yet. Just shoot more. Shoot and shoot and shoot.
>>2828121
>composition
compositionstudy.com
>>2828121
>would it be possible to bring out the subject in those images in post production or it it more about composition?
It's really more about composition.
You can do something in post, by altering the brightness of the subject compared with the one of the background, or messing locally with clarity and sharpness.
You can do it, but you shouldn't, because it will still look like a polished turd.
The worst problem in those examples was the cluttered background and the best solution is to shoot the picture in such a way that you have a less busy background.
The first one, even if not completely lateral, could have worked better shot against the wall.
The parkour one maybe could have been shot with an upward angle to avoid the crowd behind.
I'm not sure about this one, but also try to shoot closer.
33 and 45 mm already give you a bit of telecompression, making the subject blend more with the background.
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