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Would you please critic my photos ?
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I like the first one, good balance of black at the bottom, light at the top, cool silhouettes against the smoke. The other three are less interesting and 2 & 4 dont really have clear subjects
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You got into the fray, showed both sides' perspectives, portraited individuals in a showing, human way (>>2805484), the bw isn't unwarranted, the viewer has a sense of dynamic/conflict from viewing the photos, anon, I'd say you nailed the whole situation perfectly, I'd expect to see these kinds of photos on news' frontpage articles. Excellent job, do you have any other works online?
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>>2805492
Not really good pictures, I started recently
But : http://photogenicunicorn.myportfolio.com/projects
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>>2805492
Thanks for the critic, I really appreciated what you said
>>2805487
I saw this critic and I always try to fix a subject. But thank you
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>>2805495
I love this one !
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>>2805501
But I love the photographer more...
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>>2805501
Op's fw reading your comment
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>>2805502
Op's fw reading the next one
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>>2805480
I was exactly at the same riot

(Rennes république)

Also took some photos
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>>2805506
Wow little world, we should exchange
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>>2805504
You wanna know why ?
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Mate this is probably going to be quite frustrating because I have no right to sit here and tell you that you didn't get close enough because I wasn't there and have no idea how dangerous it could have been for you. But speaking purely about how these images work and dont work I have to say it. You should have gotten closer.

>>2805480
The longer you look at this the more the sign on the left of the frame gets in the way. It's not covering anything but it interrupts the gradual change from dark to light happening in the centre of the frame. Taking a few steps to the right would have gotten rid of it but if you did that you would lose the depth to the frame that's being added by the building in the background. This fades away beautifully.

What could have removed the sign and kept the building and streets perfect framing would have been moving forward though

>>2805481
The framing here is pretty plain so the composition isn't lending itself to anything. The only thing giving me direction is exposure and to me looking at this image the subject appears to be the man in the centre left bottom of the frame pointing behind the camera and the lady with him. Following that the other people with their backs to the camera in the front of the frame. I'm sure that's not what you're going for and I'll take a guess and say the rioters in this image are the two people with their hoods up in the front right of the frame.

The riot police might as well not be in the frame for how far back and underexposed they are. The exposure isn't your fault with that obviously as they're wearing black and are in a shadowy street. But you could have reframed the image to make their presence more felt. Maybe by taking a vertically framed image more to the right with the heads/backs of the rioters (if they were rioters) and the riot police directly in front of them with the street and high buildings framing the whole thing,
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>>2805480
Great shots.
Specially liking the first one OP.

Took a couple shots too, in SW of France. There were no riots here btw.
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>>2805508
I'm not good as you;I started photography like some months ago...

Do you have a flickr so i can contact you ?
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>>2805484
This looks awkward, the way the police officer is looking out the corner of his eye reminds me of bad street photography. The framing though is pretty much spot on to make that police man the main focal point of the image. I'd argue the cut off face at the top of the frame and the reflection in the far right of the frame dont work well. Also the shield is cut off at the bottom of the frame but that's not really a big problem. Small compositional things that are bothering me is all.

You've done this well though because all I can look at is that police man and a few small things at the edge of the frame. That's solid composition, I'm looking exactly where you want me to. It's just a shame the moment isn't right

>>2805485
This is just the back of peoples heads

>>2805486
This is a bit better and the light on the mans face is very strong but not enough to ruin the texture of his skin. Framing is.. ok . You probably didn't see this at the time but if you had of gotten a bit lower and slightly to the left you could have framed him inside the arch in the back of the frame. Even getting lower on its own would help get rid of some of the dead space in the top of the frame.

>>2805488
Why do I have a feeling that's a press photographer you've managed to get in the frame. I would crop them out completely and leave the picture in more of a 1x1 or 3x2 format bt removing all of the left of the image.

That way you're left with just the police and the crowd. There's a leading line in the curb that is leading us too the crowd, that works well with the white lines in the middle of the street.

Might not be worth having two images with nearly the exact same background in the same set though. Maybe choose which is the stronger image out of this and >>2805480 (I'd argue the OP image should stay)
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>>2805510
First thank for the constructed critic !
I was the closest I could have been as I wasn't a rioter. But I only got the lens kit ( 14-42 ) so it's really hard to get close to the subject. I'll try to buy a new lens soon.
You're totally right for the sign, it don't cover the scene, but it break the lines. Maybe I can Photoshop this but it'll be hard.

And for >>2805481 that's the badest shot of the serie I think. It's the first picture I took and it was the first time I got in this kind of event, I didn't know how to act without getting flashballed kek
But what you said will really increase my attention and the way I compose when shooting
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Here is one i took

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>>2805512
I started photography in November, I'm noot good lol
[email protected] :))
>>2805511
Stunning shots
What did you use ? The blur is really cool
Same for the other, the light on the face is really smooth
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>>2805499
You are way too far back here. You're lower which is good but you should have been up at the zebra crossing. None of the bodies in the front of the image are getting in the way and they actually frame the scene in the middle well but the interesting part of the image is too small because of how far away it is.

>>2805505
This is a picture of a sticker on a lamppost

>>2805507
The problem with steel posts like this is when you have one running from the top to bottom of your image, it splits it. You have two pictures now because of the framing. One on the left is kind of interesting and quirky because the guy looks pretty casual in front of the police. The image on the right has nothing going on. Be careful when you're framing the picture to avoid high contrast things like poles and lampposts splitting your image like this.

>>2805508
I think you could have brought back the exposure and highlights on the right of the frame here. It's too bright and you cant make much detail out on the peoples faces there.

What you could have done here was take a step to the left and zoomed in, you would have gotten a more compressed line up with all the police and probably caught more of the womans face who is confronting them.
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>>2805525
Thank for this, really nice advice for the steel posts. I'll take care in my future work. You've got the right words
And for >>2805508, I'll try post-processing
This is RAW file, I only applied BW
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>>2805524
Thanks. Nothing special, a Pentax K50 with a nifty fifty. (DA 50/1.8)
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>>2805510
>>2805517
>>2805525
I'll close on some general points about the set

I'd argue that the B&W doesn't work here but that is my personal opinion, I feel that monochrome press and photojournalists images aren't suitable these days to portray a scene unless it is incredibly abstract and artistic. Colour pictures with just enough processing to tone down the harsh highlights and add some punch into the colours would work best here. The monochrome processing feels kind of like you're polishing a turd.

I know it's scary to try get closer in general when taking pictures but especially in a situation like this is can be very hard. Interesting moments happen in a flash when there is confrontation and if you aren't in the right place at the right time you end up with images like these. They look fine, but that's it. Just fine, sadly. The only thing that will help this is practice. If you're not the crazy type who gets into the thick of things in general then you need to think about this logically. You wont look as much like a rioter if you look like a photographer. Dont dress too trendy, keep the camera very visible and carry reliable ID with you. That way if the police do go for you, you can prove what you're doing.

Sometimes that wont be enough though and you'll maybe get pushed about or told to fuck off but that's as likely to happen from the rioters. I've had people marching at a protest give me a really hard time because of the lack of press coverage of similar events of theirs. Like I was working for the national fucking broadcaster. It happens, you might as well make the most of a shit situation by getting some good pictures out of it.

Were there any professional photographers/ photojournalists about? If so I would imagine they were closer. Whenever I shoot riots and protests I see what the person trying to feed their family with their work is up to. I never shadow them or get in their way but I see how they get close and try remember that for next time.
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by the way thanks for posting a set in a new thread. /p/ needs more people making threads full of original content
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>>2805531
I'm really tired, I'll read you're comment later, but that's really cool that I can have really good critics.
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>>2805480
Good shots, I like.
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>>2805518
Beautiful lighting, great scene
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>>2805521
Any critique ?
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>>2805518
hory shit great photo
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>>2805525
This is a shitpost.
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