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how come these never caught on?
also, obscure gear thread
>>810353
this is called a "tent". it's marketed pretty much solely to hipsters who have to be different. instead of sleeping comfortably above the ground in your hammock you actually put it right on the dirt and sleep on the ground kek.
wonder how many other /out/ists have one of these...
>probably none
>>810371
is that one of those avalanche air bags?
>>810373
Correct.
>>810378
huh. i always thought they were one time inflate like the lifevests but i never considered how bad of an investment that would probablly be
>>810365
I almost made it through your entire post without laughing but the kek at the end got me. I was imagining you saying it out loud as you were typing it.
And also the fact that there was no pause just a kek.
>>810383
On the mountain, they're effectively one-time use. Pull that handle, you're without protection the rest of the day unless you brought a second cylinder.
And if you had to pull the handle, you've already made at least one bad terrain decision, and the snow conditions are obviously slidey. Not a good place to be.
Pieps/BD has an electronic fan-based airbag system, that pack design leaves a lot to be desired and I think some of the electronics will get ironed out as that technology matures, but that system currently gives you four guaranteed deployments on a full-charge. Easiest bag to repack too, can do it easily on the mountain.
I'm not a water guy, but I was under the impression the life vests were repackable/rearmable similar to these airbags.
>>810365
>letting bears and mountain lions bite right into you
Lemme guess you're a euro who camps around 30 other people and the only dangerous animals you know of are in the zoo.
>>810353
>how come these never caught on?
i don't even know what the fuck it is
>See pic related.
>Looks super handy.
>Order 2 from Amazon for like 2 bucks
>Arrive a week later
>neato.billymays
>Literally never used them
>Gave them to a camping buddy
Just texted him, he's never used them either.
Just texted
>>810353
But they did!
>>810430
Holy shit youve gotta be kidding me
>>810576
nah he's just trolan'. it's the old insecure groundpleb defense, once again
>>810365
>ground kek
>>810431
carabiner. ive only ever seen them Keychain sized
>>810543
I have one of these that has a carabiner instead of just that shitty hole in the top left and i use it with my anchor trolley on my kayak, that way if my anchor tangles i dont have to undo a knot i can just pull it loose
Other than that tho i cant think of a good use for it that would save you any time or effort, maybe bear bags but theyre easy enough with just rope. Im sure theres a few uses when rock climbing
>>810592
Well just about the only use i could think for that is to hold my keys, which a regular carabiner does just fine
>>810590
did you just make this or is ground kek really a thing?
if so 10/10
>>810592
that's because in a real carabiner the load is along the spine where it is strongest, and they're able to be opened while loaded, instead of concentrating all the weight on the hinge of the gate where it is the weakest and putting the load on the gate making it more difficult to open when loaded. that's why this design is only in gimmick size, because it can't be trusted with any real load.
source: climber with dozens of real carabiners that i literally trust my life to
>>810627
Hot off my photoshop.
>>810636
>real carabiner
>>810592
>Keychain carabiner
Why not both.
>>810353
That is a tiny crappy chinese keychain replica of a Kong Frog which is a climbing carabiner.
Here it's next to my Leatherman Wave for size comparison.
>>810711
Here how it looks when it's open.
>>810726
I didn't buy it for the purpose of climbing so it doesn't matter to me really.
>>810371
Hi, Mule!
>>810743
what purpose did you have to drop $30 on that piece of shit?
>>810414
>I'm not a water guy, but I was under the impression the life vests were repackable/rearmable similar to these airbags.
Can confirm they are
You need to buy reload kid and repack the vest
>>810715
Wtf is the point?
>>810766
same as another gearhead faggotry
>sure there's a better, more efficient, lighter, more practical, more adaptable, less expensive version, but look how much cooler than you i am because i have this worse, heavier, less practical, less adaptable, more expensive version that no one's ever seen before
>>810787
*any other
>>810673
What in the fuck is this peice of shit? Is this something you actually have? Are you COMPLETELY FUCKED IN THE HEAD?
>>810758
It looks really really cool on his backpack next to fluttershy
>>810669
You deserve a medal.
>>810792
What? You don't own one? Jesus Christ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FzvWYZ7mw0
>>810543
These are awesome for the guy lines on your tarp. I use them on mine, use them every trip.
>>810830
I'm with this guy. I have 8 of these.
>>810829
Holy fuck these are amazing!
>>810900
It is just an ulu. Nothing new at all. They just never heard of them before.
>>810743
still waiting to hear your purpose for this gimmick.
>>810371
How much does decent air bag run? any manufactures I should look for? I moved to an avalanche prone area and a couple people died this past year. Need to get me one!
>>810371
>>810378
>>810383
>>810373
lol I never knew these existed. I now I want one just to pick a fight with someone and deploy it.
>>811303
not that guy but it's used mainly as retention system in the military
>>811586
>>811407
>How much does decent air bag run?
I would budget $1k USD for one. Some like my Highmark Pro and the Pieps bags are more (1200-ish), BCA has some around 600.
>any manufactures I should look for?
One that fits you well and comfortably, with a pack design that meets your needs.
It's a big investment, if it's not comfortable on you or doesn't work as a pack you probably won't wear it. If you're not wearing it, there's no sense even buying one. Try them on with your gear before you buy one. Even better would be to demo one on the mountain in your preferred sport.
BCA's the least-expensive. Solid bag, couple different varieties for various activities. Their comfort has improved a lot in the past few years.
ABS has been around the longest, with the best protection system (Explosive trigger, N2 cylinder, and individually-valved dual-airbags). Advantage with these bags is the "zip-ons" - you buy the airbag protection harness and "zip on" the pack you want. Can get everything from a zero that just covers the airbag part, to a 45+5 for when you need a lot of shit.
Not as easy to service/maintain because of the trigger and cylinder - it's an exchange (about $40 iirc) vs. reseat a few components, check an O-ring, and fill from a SCUBA tank.
Ortovox has a system similar to ABS.
Snowpulse has the best pack design. Pockets for everything, and I like the head/neck protection that airbag offers. I've been riding with a Snowpulse pack for about 7 years now (one of the first riders in the US).
Pieps/BD has the electronic system, but IMO the bag design needs some work.
More important than brand is that you get one that fits well.
Some manufacturers also offer a vest-style pack. Some guys really like that style, I don't care for them.
>Avalanche org I work with is sponsored by all the avalanche pack brands
>Snowpulse is one of my sponsors
>>811407
>I moved to an avalanche prone area and a couple people died this past year. Need to get me one!
Start with the training.
Learn how to recognize avalanche terrain and evaluate snow conditions. Go over the avalanche bulletin and look for the signs of instability as you ride.
Practice rescue scenarios - hazard identification, signal search, coarse search, clues, pinpoint search, probe and shoveling techniques. Ride with others that have this training/equipment too!
Also recommend basic first-aid training.
Go for a class, get some education, and play with some gear before you make the investment.
Beacon, shovel, probe are bare-minimum.
Some beacons have a lot of features and buttons. Others are simple.
Analog vs. digital, go digital.
One vs. Two vs. Three antennas - 3-antennas are faster and more accurate. Go with a 3-antenna beacon. (I have a Tracker 2.)
Shovels have a lot of different features. The saws in some of them are mostly useless. Some convert from a shovel to a hoe, that's convenient in some situations. Too big and you'll be tempted to take bigger bites, wearing yourself out faster. (BCA Dozer.)
Probe... 270cm is a good length to work with. I prefer a 300, but because reasons I'm carrying a 270. It's rare I "need" that extra 30cm. Important things here are a quick/easy latching system, and solid when assembled. (Stealth 270 in my pack.)
GET TRAINING!!! Don't think I can stress this enough. Best tools in the world won't help you or your buddy if you can't effectively manage and execute a rescue.
Pack comes secondary to the rest of the gear/training. Pack you wear for you, the rest of the gear's for the crew you're riding with.
I've got friends who have been killed in avalanches (the reason I do what I do). Two friends killed just this year.
I've also got a bunch of friends who are alive and still riding today because they have the gear, training, and so does the rest of their riding group.
>>810829
That man only has a paracord belt, bracelet, and tool. He won't have enough cordage to fashion himself a noise were things to go south..amateur mistake
>>812182
Noose** damnit
>>811567
I cant stop laughing at this. Im not sure if its the idea of an airbag, the drawing of the tumbling man of the fucking arrows.
>>812289
*or
>>810365
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>>810414
carryology did a whole write up on the fan powered versions of these backpacks vs the gas cylinder kind. It was a really interested read
