I never come to this board and after reading through many threads I have to ask this question.
Why does /out/ hate campfires?
>>769898
Fuck off
Crude, unnecessary, messy and dangerous.
No fun allowed.
I guess it's because it distrubs the landscape and people who light those up rarely clean their shits after they're done goofin around.
It can be real comfy tho
some fagots told me off weekend just gone for having one on my property
>have big property in bushland australia
>have a few mates round for beers that weekend
>sink piss all day
>get a fire going early in the morning
>house is just out of site, and campfire area is close to a trail
>2 guys and 1 girl come up to us and tell us to clean up and put the fire out
>only rubbish is empty beer bottles put back into the 6pack holders, which will later be transferred to the bin that is next to us all.
>fire is kinda big, but fuck it we have water and sand. everything is green aswell so its all good.
>these fucking hippy's tell us to fuck off, as if they own the land.
>the trail is actually a national park, but my property is off it, as is the fire
>tell them to get fucked
>they sit on this fucking trail about 10 meters away and start playing this drum
>first 20 mins was ok, they were playing some bob marley, and otehr groovy shit. then it got bad, so we got the speakers cranking
>other mate did a burnout in his ute next to the fireplace
>hippies call the cops
>cops tell the hippies to fuck off
>1 of the guys and the girl actually cry because they think were fucking nature up
>they leave,
>have beers with cops
which one of you fags told me to put my fire out. please post your pic for all to see.
>>769947
Get fucked bogan cunts
>>769909
I'm being serious.
>>769947
kek northern NSW?
>>769898
What are you talking about?
Campfires are great
Just don't be reckless and stupid about it.
I don't hate campfires, I love them, but I hate faggots who don't know how to do campfires.
Don't fucking play lumberjack and chop down green trees when there is dead wood laying everywhere.
Don't leave the fire burning when you leave. I see people doing this all the time.
If there's a campfire ring somewhere, use it, don't leave black circles on the ground everywhere. Clean up after yourself.
Don't burn a fire when it's obvious you shouldn't, when it's too dry.
Lots of people don't understand that you can camp without a campfire. It's a luxury and an accessory to camping, not something to get drunk around and leave trash around your still-burning fire when you leave the camp in a mess the next morning.
>>769898
I dont hate campfires, they're just forbidden in the entirety of my country.
Except on private properties I guess, but I dont have one of those.
So no campfires for me.
Also I feel like a lot of people are keen on making fires just because. I've never been in a situation where I needed a fire, save perhaps for Finland, but everyone makes those there, and there are specific places already set up.
Campfire general?
>18 years old
>about 20 of us go camping to celebrate the end of high school
>bring a blonde girl ive been wanting to rail
>someone manages to get a trunk full of beer
>secure a few sites, one is near the park road
>ome friend immediately starts building a fire even though it's like 3pm
>puts way too much wood on, fire is sky-high
>park ranger drives past at the worst moment
>doubles back, walks onto our site
>tells us how stupid the fire is
>sees a beer in someone's hand
>starts asking us for ID's
>calls the actual cops on us when he realizes we are all underage
>real cops show up
>they make us dump out 15+ cases of beer in the grass, one by one
>i have weed in my pocket that i hide under a log when cops are hassling someone else
>i get up because im nervous
>cop looks under my log
>finds my weed
>i deny that its mine
>starts searching every tent
>literally calls in a K-9 unit
>dog comes and spends an hour tearing my car to shreds
>goes through each tent
>finds my friend's stash of various drugs (weed, lsd, ecstacy)
>friend takes the blame for everything
>we all get $350 drinking tickets
>have to cobble together money to go bail friend out of jail
>it gets dark out
>everyone depressed as fuck
>no beer
>go to sleep
>dont get laid
>drive home the next day in my torn up car
>allergic to dogs so i sneeze the whole way home
Campfires ruined my life
>>770088
>I don't hate campfires, I love them, but I hate faggots who don't know how to do campfires.
Well said anon. Have a /thread
>>770105
Based cops, busting degenerates.
>>770105
>be 18
>be fiction writer
More holes than swiss cheese there lad.
>>770124
Wait, it actually happened though. What are you talking about?
>>770139
Sure it did.
>>770054
Fucking hit the nail, don't fuck around and you won't have to be sorry
>>770105
sweet
>>770151
Wow bro. You sure showed me.
I swear some people here are so fucking autistic they will argue about anything.
Who could possibly hate a campfire? lmao
>>770151
>claims a story has holes
>can't point them out
kys
Not against campfires at all. Just like >>770054 and >>770152 said, be responsible with your fires and all will be good.
Pic related, its a camp that some good friends made in a national forest. Fires every night for comfort and warmth with the fuel being supplied by fallen branches that cross or block the trail nearby.
>>770105
TL;DR
I fucked up my friends life because i brought drugs to a campout and brought too much attention to myself
>>770195
Look at all those fucking rhodies....
>>770237
Yeah I bet it's pretty when they are blooming.
>>769898
Because there's literally no reason to have campfires, and fires are destructive to the natural ecosystem. If it's going to be too cold to go then just don't go or bring better clothes or maybe a propane stove for heat. There's no reason to go when it's that cold except your personal pride.
I can maybe understand in an emergency situation, but if you left the house intentionally and it wasn't something like a plane crash then that's on you to have a signaling device in case of emergency like a satellite phone.
The reason specifically that the fires are so bad, in addition to them having the chance to spread, is that there are millions of dendrivores that eat the decaying wood and fungus like lousce and millipeades and then from there the predators that eat then like centipeades and wasps, many other dendrivites. When you burn the wood it destroys the matter and the energy it contains that they depend on. Most of the energy and nutrients is converted into smoke and blows away in this unusable entropic form.
>>770760
>Because there's literally no reason to have campfires, and fires are destructive to the natural ecosystem.
Read a little more about fire ecology before you make blanket statements.
I enjoy campfires for roasting smores and for light warmth on cold nights. I go winter camping in Utah a lot so it's nice to have. In the winter there's little if any chance of having a campfire get out of control. Not too worried about the fungus eating the wood, there's plenty for them to work on.
>>770760
>MillepedeLivesMatter
Love camp fires and ill gather wood on federal land and if you dont like it ill rape your kids and nail your pets to the side of your house because AMERICA and FUCK YEAH and FUCK YOU
>>770088
>but I hate faggots who don't know how to do campfires.
that's pretty much it
who doesn't love forest fires caused by negligence?
>>770760
>dendrivores
>lousce
>millipeades
>centipeades
>dendrivites.
>When you burn the wood it destroys the matter and the energy it contains that they depend on.
>>770237
they plant them because theyre fire resistant..
>>769947
>have beers with cops
shit that never happened
>>770034
WA
>>771002
whats the problem?
one of the cops lives 3 doors down, and the other one had one beer. then waited an hour before driving.
nothing wrong with being friendly. just because you act like a cunt to cops and they treat you like shit, doesnt mean all cops are like that. youve probably never left melbourne have you fagot,
>>770760
I like how you think a wood fire "disrupts the natural ecosystem," but youre OK with a propane stove, as if extracting all that natural gas and oil from the earth that lead to the propane byproduct dont "disrupt the natural ecosystem" too.
You also seem to think people only have fires when it's cold. I burn them all summer long. I light a fire every morning to cook, and at night my friends and i will burn half a tree even if it's 80 degrees outside.
>>769947
>have beers with cops
Is this the Aussie equivalent of the becoming range buddies meme?
>>771073
Nah can confirm that shit happens, especially in WA and NT
>>770105
Sounds like a gr8 time overall
>>770105
Normies Blown The Fuck Out
>>769898
i love them even if i'm alone i make a full fire i think stoves are silly.
People that dont make fires and/or cant are really fucking pointless people
Make a fire every time i go camping
>>772205
People who need to make a fire every time they go /out/ are really fucking pointless people
There are so many places /out/ where a fire is not possible or a dick move
>>769898
>Why does /out/ hate campfires?
>>770778
Made me kek good job anon
>>772250
You are clearly a total faggot from PNW
Just jealous that you cant have a fire for 6 months out of the year and the other half it just rains.
I can make a fire 365 days of the year, I could even make it 30 feet tall every day and my forests would be totally fine.
Dont be mad at me because you PNW pussies have weak ass forests that are ruined the second people touch them. Maybe tell your forests to toughen the fuck up? Your trees are whiny bitches just like your liberals.
>>772728
25 years of primitive extended stay camping. I have gone a month without seeing a trail, have you? Pussy.
>>772731
You didn't answer the question, internet tough guy
>you PNW pussies have weak ass forests that are ruined the second people touch them. Maybe tell your forests to toughen the fuck up? Your trees are whiny bitches just like your liberals.
This will make good pasta
>>772870
In your "25 years of primitive extended stay camping"
Have you camped about the tree line, on rock?
Have you ever camped in a serious desert?
Have you ever camped on old lava flows?
I'm having a hard time believing you
>>772731
>I have gone a month without seeing a trail
Well it's not hard when you don't leave your bedroom, senpai
>>772731
Hold old are you?
>>772897
I'm 60
I bring my bicycle and bring a backpack with a hoodie and a wool blanket, a knife, 2 pounds of nuts, a fishing pole and a bottle to hold water. I usually ride about 50 miles out into a national forest and go as deep as possible. If the fishing is good I stay for up for a month, if no fish in the streams I find I will stay til my nut sack is empty. Yes forever alone, nobody is willing to camp the way I camp, I build my own shelters and fires etc and bring almost nothing. People don't think it's fun but I do.
>>772922
That's sound like more billshit Than I can handle
>>772922
>being this much of a loser
>has the balls to call others pussys
>>772946
>can't into /out/doors so I'll just call someone I've never met, who can and does, a loser
>sure showed him
There's nothing wrong with starting a small campfire to cook game and fish right?
>>772922
>60 y.o.
>on 4chan
kek
It's amazing how as soon as people attempt to call each other out the average age on this board is raised by about 40 years. You obviously missed the strawpoll thread a couple of weeks ago that found out the average age on /out/
>>772922
>I stay until my nut sack is empty
kek
>>773049
yea bro he was too busy being a true american hero, toughening it out in the woods fighting a bear with his bare hands
This seems relevante
>>773085
What is that under all your stuff there? A jacket?
Generally, unless you know what you're doing, campfires are not good leave-no-trace practice. The general view under leave no trace is that things like fire rings and burn scars disrupt the natural beauty of a place. Sometimes there is the issue of not enough wood in the area to meet demand for fires (always use deadfall if possible, not living trees) or there may be a risk of wildfire in the area. It may also simply be illegal to burn fires in an area (but I guess that very rarely stops anyone from /out/). There are ways to do campfires in the bush that are leave no trace, but the common idea of a campfire is not leave-no-trace friendly. Here is what I believe to be a pretty nice guide by the US forestry service. http://www.fs.fed.us/t-d/pubs/pdfpubs/pdf97232815/pdf97232815pt01.pdf
>>770162
That's what 4chan is newfaggot.
Autistic retards arguing about anything and everything.
>>773129
A shemagh, it's great for a lot of things, so i carry one with me.
>>773219
Oh right I have a couple but they're a really loose weave compared to that one. Where'd you get it?
i fucking love campfires
>>773362
i think only a sick degenerate would dislike campfires. we should hangout sometime mads, roast a mallow or two over some tasty birch.
>>773367
never cared much for marshmallows myself but you do you my man
>>773373
ha, me niether now that you mention it. bacon'n eggs and maybe some sweet saucies will do
>>773362
im trying to fuck with that pot. is it an antique?
>>773382
no its not, top half of the Swedish army mess kit
>>773373
and fuck look at those yolks. so comfy
>>773386
i thought i was too hardcore for a frying pan, but boy is it worth it
>>773391
>Can't be chicken, What say ye Madsen? What type of ova?
what does this even mean?
>>773398
he acksin' what kind of eggs those are. apparently he has reason the believe it ain't the thin-sheled ovum of the domesticated fowl that we know as the "chicken"
>>773414
its chicken, its always chicken, not counting that time i tried quail eggs
>>773414
dem yokes are big enuf fer oxxens
>>773421
il take that as a compliment i guess, or, a compliment to the now long dead chicken who layed them
>>769898
>Why does /out/ hate campfires?
they are afraid of getting busted (usafat)
I am from europe. I always make a fire for cooking and fun.
>>770088
>>770095
If you've never eaten food cooked over an open camp fire then you're really missing out.
>>770105
So you blame campfires in general rather than the idiot that built it or the multiple other idiots that watched him built it?
People that hate camp fires are the same people that never had friends and always had problems keeping a boner even when they whack themselves off.
>>773341
I think amazone. Mine was also pretty loose, washing it at 60 deg C will help
>>772922
I have seen this posted in multiple threads.
Stale pasta is stale.
>>773049
>average age on /out/
I was surprised there were so many 30 year olds.
>I thought I was the only one.
Holyfuck, this board is more autistic than i thought
Fresh out out of high school me and some friends went camping.
>first night of a 3 day trip
>first camp fire
>use wood that isn't completely dry
>lots of wood popping in the fire
>friend is sitting by the fire torturing everyone with shit guitar playing
>loud popping noise
>a small cinder got shot on his neck
>friend throws the guitar on the ground and makes a high pitched screech
>he's frantically clawing at the left side of his neck
>everyone is laughing
>while he's in the tent getting patched up by the bitches we're outside having a laughing attack
>he spent the rest of the trip in pain from the burns on his neck
>mfw he had to stay in the tent while we went hiking and swimming
>mfw I was sitting next to him
>mfw it could have been me
>>770760
Kill yourself.
At the woodland I go to there are thousands of downed branches and sticks, the insects will be fine. Campfires are good for the environment, the ash fertilises the soil. A propane stove isn't good for the environment, go fuck yourself yuppie
>>770760
GET A JOB YOU HIPPY
>>770969
they end up in forests because people remove them from their gardens because they tend to get invasive and dump them there.
>>770088
This guy right here.
>>774088
I think /out/ definitely attracts an older crowd and it shows (mostly) in the posts. I suppose going /out/ is what you do once you grow out of videogames. But there's always some bleed through of neverbeenouts from /b and /k who are always too willing to shitpost.
>>774274
>What is native vegetation?
>>774738
rhododendron isn't native here.
and unless he lives in asia or southern europe it probably isn't native there either.
There is never going to be anything wrong with someone making a fire. Ever. If you told me not to have a fire somewhere, I would have a huge laugh right in your face.
>>774781
>There is never going to be anything wrong with someone making a fire. Ever.
There are places high in the mountains, above the treeline, where you should not have a fire.
>>774781
Edgy as fuck
>>774649
>suppose going /out/ is what you do once you grow out of videogames
never
>>774927
>>is right
bristlecone pine in the alpine spend over half the year buried in snow, take 50+ years to grow 6 feet high. would you chop one down for a hour long fire and still feel like a true outdoorsman?
>>770105
>18
>underage
lol wtf america
>>774935
It's not about keeping a fire, it's about proper stewardship of the land
>>770105
Everyone in America drinks underage, even I did, so I am not going to pull the "MUH DEGENERACY" card, but holy fuck dude
>consuming alcohol underage at a public area, outside where anyone can see you
>further drawing attention to yourselves by being in a big ass group and most likely making a fuck ton of noise; not to mention a huge ass fire
The only thing that could have gotten you caught faster is if one of you literally called the police and invited them. When you're doing illegal shit, it probably helps to not be a dumbass.
>>775065
I view myself as a warden of the land and my 2 foot tall fires are conpletely disregarded by mother earth. Idiot. Do you appologize to ants when you step on them?
>>775307
Disregarded in your backyard maybe, or at some trashed state park.
Just don't act like that in the mountains or deserts
>>770105
It's amazing how you can get fucked for something millions of normal people do.
>>775371
It's like you think I don't do this in august in the cascades
>>770105
>be around 16
>at a family cookout
>brother yells for the bug spray
>throw it to him from really far away
>bug spray hits a tree branch and falls right in the camp fire
>everyone else is already out front at their cars saying goodbye and shit
>get into car and pretend nothing happened
>huge kaboom, 20 foot tall fireball visible from the road
>everyone starts running to the backyard and panicking
>drive away
>mfw
>>775396
10/10
>>770783
literally just laughed for two minutes. what drugs are you on lol
>>775408
Im on FREEDOM what the fuck are you on?!
>>770760
How can anyone be this oblivious to how the world works? I mean really, there is a lot of talk about autism here, but this... come on.
>>774781
Nice one, bismuth.
>Kill all the things
>Burn all the things
>Kick all the things
These statements make you look like the opposite of an /out/doorsman.
>>775373
*millions of adults do
ftfy, you're still a child
>>770783
KEKBURGER
>>775419
I EAT EAGLES FOR BREAKFAST AND SHIT RONALD REAGAN THAT'S HOW FUCKIN AMERICAN I AM
>>770088
depends man. i agree with everything you're saying. idk if you include private land with what you were talking about but here in oz piss up around a fire pit is every weekend in winter.
when you are out bush though it is exactly as you said.
