Please remember to pack wire cutters in case you come across decapitation traps while /out/. You could save someone's life.
>>760999
What fucking shithole country do you live in that decapitation traps are a real concern?
>>761001
There was a major problem with boobie traps all over texas for a really long time.
I see nothing wrong here. The only people affected would be those on loud motorized vehicles. It's for the best really.
>>760999
please tell me this is fake. i'm currently in the midst of trying to keep various dirtbikers and four-wheelers from making a road through my woods and as much as it's chapping my ass that they flount the no trespassing signs like real jerkfaces even i won't put rock or log obstructions across the trail because i don't want some kid to have an accident and become braindead over a fucking property line. but decapitation traps? anyone who does that is an absolute psycho and should be locked-up
>>760999
>not putting them up to ensure ATV/bike/bicycle enthusiasts meet a just end
>>760999
If that's real that's a clear threat. It's obviouslly in the middle of a trail. Some kid on a bike could get really hurt.
Also OP, you should report that at once to the cops.
>>761007
If I owned property and people did that kind of shit, I would have a hard time not putting up traps like OP pic. Nothing would infuriate me more than jackass rednecks trashing my private property.
>>761022
believe me, it's maddening but here's the thing - the thought of it being some arrogant low-IQ redneck 30-something who thinks he owns the world and will trash anyone's land for his own entertainment makes me want to dig pits and dump boulders in the trail, but that's probably not who this is. it's probably 16-17yr olds who yes, may be little shits, but they still don't deserve to die or break their neck at the age of 16 because they're assholes as teenagers. wire traps and pits and trips don't choose who deserves to get hurt and who doesn't
>>761025
what vicinity if you don't mind me asking?
Someone left a metal cord going across a dirt road/path in an orchard near my house. My cousin was riding dirt bikes with his friends and he didn't see it and got there first. I was only 6 at the time and it's not the kind of thing you bring up but from what I recall at the time damn near took his head clean off. He died instantly. Mothers day 1996.
>>761022
>If I owned property
Just put up fences and game trail cameras.
http://www.maine.gov/wordpress/insideifw/2016/01/05/landowner-relations-relief-kits-issued-to-maine-game-wardens-2/
>>761051
this is a pleasant fiction
>>761054
the 'man isnt natural' meme needs to be checked. man imposing himself on nature is just as viable to the circle of life as the 'leave no trace'ers. hilariously, its the leave no trace people that are too scared to even shit in the woods, which is the most basic tie to nature you could accomplish
>>761028
Eh those young kids will turn into arrogant adults so fuck em. I wonder if these would be legal on your property if you post a ton of warning signs and make them extremely visible with bright paint. If someone gets killed at that point, it should be treated the same as going into an artillery range.
>>761060
children dont quantify the concept of borders, past the most fundamental. there are no evil strangers
That shit is criminal and happens everywhere. Video very related
https://youtu.be/eIbOeLlZep0
>>761060
>Eh those young kids will turn into arrogant adults
that's just an assumption though, and it still doesn't justify trying to kill or maim. at least not to me. the second someone flips a bike on one of my logs or kills themselves will be the second it wasn't actually worth it at all. that's just me though. wanting bikers off the property ≠ hating them and wanting them to die
>>761032
I have a similar story as well. My dad bought a dirtbike when he was younger (CR500 for those interested) and was getting ready to sell it a while later. As a final ride, he went flying up a dirt road and there was a wire similar to this going across it. He hit it and luckily the wire snapped. He sold the bike later that week, and the person he sold it to went up that same dirt road. The wire was back, and this time it didn't break, and it nearly cut his head off as well; killed instantly. Messed up world.
>>761056
I don't give a single fuck about tree huggers m8. But if I happen to come across someone on a bike on a hikers trail I won't move and will not let you pass. You'll have to get down off your bike and dare to tell me that you are pissed by my behaviour. Bikers ruin the trails for everyone. Most of them are either kids or pleb scum, so I have literally nothing to loose. Fucking hate bikers. Either in the city or the outdoors. If you don't hate bikers you literally are not a human being.
Now, fixing wire across a trail, that's some african tier shit that has to be eliminated.
>>761066
Is that brazil?
>>761064
Kids old enough to ride dirtbikes unsupervised should have no trouble with the "concept of borders." They would likely have shitty parents who encourage shitty behavior like trespassing and destroying other people's property for fun.
But all trolling aside, people who do this kinda shit are sick. Though it seems so easy to get away with that I'm surprised it's not more common.
>>761076
>I'm surprised it's not more common.
It is very common, just not well documented.
>>761084
something tells me you don't know anyone who didn't gow up to be a worthless dick
"/out/" meaning being on someone else's property where people have no business being without permission?
(now if we're talking about public land, that's a whole different story)
if you have trespassing signs properly posted and people intentionally ignore them, go right ahead and set traps...dig pits, down trees, bury spike strips, place barb wire...if that's what it takes to keep idiots away, so be it
if you own the property, you should be able to do anything you want with it....the moment someone crosses the property line without consent, what happens to them is entirely of their own fault
>>761001
This happens in Denmark all the time, sadly.
Some old dickheads think the forests belong to walkers and not runners and bikers, so all throughout the country, people would put up traps specifically meant to severely hurt or even kill bikers, riders and runners. It would be spikes on mountain bike tracks on difficult paths where the biker would fall and land head first into big, metal spikes. Other places it would be metal wires.
>>761092
>choose to be a psychopathic sadist because you're technically allowed to, even though you don't have to be at all
nice m8.
>>761097
hey, if I had a piece of land, I'd be happy to open it to people who wanted to hike/fish/maybe hunt, as long as they were willing to respect the land and property borders, and get permission in advance
>>761102
so if I go on to private land, with signs properly posted, and somehow injure myself, I deserve to collect damages from the property owner in court?
it would obviously be their fault, if they didn't want people to go onto their land and get hurt they should have built 10+ft fences around the property
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ont-police-issue-warning-after-barbed-wire-found-across-snowmobile-trail-1.2752055 some psycho did this near me.
>>761106
>so if I go on to private land, with signs properly posted...
Huge difference from this, since this guy is actively trying to get people hurt, knowing that someone will enter his property way before he sets the traps>>761092
>go right ahead and set traps...dig pits, down trees, bury spike strips, place barb wire...if that's what it takes to keep idiots away, so be it
>>761109
jesus fuck
In Marin our own government employees try to kill mountain bikers on public open space
http://www.marinij.com/article/ZZ/20070316/NEWS/703169969
If you set this shit up on your property, you're more than likely breaking laws in regards to traps and what not.
>>761073
>brazil
Once the born place of an empire is nowadays totally unknown by foreigners. That hurts anon.
>>761114
fuck that whole area. i dont trust those pseudo hippies far as i can spit, and i love hippies. entire place is just creepy as hell
>>761116
isn't that portchugese? no offense anon but portchugle wasn't one of the big players in terms of empires, not compared to rome, spain, the latter english and french efforts, etc
>>761054
biker here.
we cause about the same amount of trail damage that hikers do, as long as you're responsible and stay off the trail when it's muddy.
i think you're thinking about dirtbikers?
>>761071
being this edgy
>>761133
i think he meant to refer to motorbikes and not cyclists/mountain bikers, but I'm not him. that was my impression though
>>761141
I hope so.
>>761116
Well I recognized it. T-that counts r-right?
>>761095
Holy fucking shit, what is with people. Metal spikes to kill bikers, decapitation traps, it's like we live in the fucking stone age. I am always amazed at how barbaric people can be in such a modern world
>>761157
People naturally want to fuck others up. Problem is that with modern forensics, security cameras everywhere, identification plates on vehicles etc. It's impossible to do it. Setting up traps is one of the only ways to fuck with people now.
>>761133
>i think you're thinking about dirtbikers
Indeed. They are the ones niggering the trails. Cyclists and hikers (in general of course) pull their weight and will try to keep the trails in good shape, because we enjoy them and we want to come back to them.
>>761140
I'm not being edgy at all. This is just what I do. I wont let them pass. And never got into a fist fight with them altough I have no problem with it. It's like their engines are somewhat connected to their balls. They turn them off and they are pussies. And btw most of the time manlets, fat fucks that have trouble breathing or skeltals. Literally the kind of people that would not be outdoors (or even alive) if it wasn't because of modern inventions.
>>761131
I'm not saying it was one of the major empires but at its time it was a big deal desu. We had territories in all oceans besides the polar ones and we also discovered Brazil, which is one of the most important and bigger countries on earth. But I'm not offended, the glorious days are long gone and I didn't lived during. It would have been epic being /out/ on a wood boat in the middle of the ocean without knowing anything else, based descobridores.
>>761154
Well it's like asking if that's Australia when the country is question is England. Could be worse though, at least you didn't asked if that was some kind of spanish, that would have been rude.
>>761185
>It would have been epic being /out/ on a wood boat in the middle of the ocean without knowing anything else, based descobridores.
you got that right bro! and yeah Portugal did have a pretty good heyday I must admit. and yeah at least nobody thought it was spanish, kek. pic relates.
>/out/ doesn't go full-blown Viet Cong and booby-trap fucking errythang while innawoods
Casuals.
I wonder how many people I've maimed with my poo poo punji sticks.
>>761162
wew lad
>>761230
he's right though
>>761231
what do you say about post concerning denmark suffering the problem as well
>>761235
this is a chicken and egg paradox anon. zenophobic angry scaredy-cats who freak-out about any slight to their personal space or property exist everywhere. in 2016 merka they this kind of person is a Trump supporter. Trump didn't invent them, they existed first. They exist everwhere. Anon is right in the sense that this is a shared mentality, even if it's not exclusive to American Trump-supporters only.
>>761241
my point being that denmark is the world poster child of socialist sympathies
>>761244
i guess so
>>761162
simply ebin
>>761185
You just went full Alberto Barbosa m8
I used to have a problem with kids in dirt bikes using my property to get into a state park.
They cut fences, tore down signs, ripped up seedlings and generally trashed what is a nice little valley.
It all stopped when I started using that part of the farm to fatten up cattle. Big Brahmin Bull / short horn cross, agro as fuck and would charge anything.
Biological pest control at its best.
>>761131
You forgot mighty China
>>761365
Plausible solution. Or allow a hermit hobo to live there with the provision he 'haunts trespassers as a spectral sasquatch'
>>761375
Haha holy fuck cunt, I'm so going to do that when I own some land.
This happened to my dad's friend when they were teenagers. Except it completely cut into his throat before it threw him off his quad. My dad drove him to the hospital on his quad and made a full recovery but it scared the shit out of them. Was completely public property, an older gentleman just hated the local kids and threatened to slash their tires, run them down, and kick the shit out of them. Got fed up and tied fishing line between two trees.
Evil abounds. No way to justify that kind of behavior.
Saw this on Facebook today...
http://nbc4i.com/2016/05/10/pennsylvania-warns-hikers-hunters-of-possible-danger-on-game-land/
>>761599
Should have added--someone covering a board embedded with nails on a trail.
I had a dog once, who got one of these in a paw
>>761087
Only the ATV riders grew up to be dicks, except one guy, but he's Jewish. Everyone else seems to be pretty chill and fine.
>>761614
Those are all over my area. People lay them down to keep the ATVs out, but the roads are right-of-ways for well tenders. Many of whom use ATVs to do their legal jobs of tending to gas wells. Caltrops plus the beheading wires made most quit their jobs. However, the new bunch of well tenders have these huge ass, angle iron, knife blade looking things with a bent top on their ATVs and solid tires to combat the situation.
>>761365
My neighbor did the same thing to combat the same problem. No one ever went through his fields again, except me. The breed he used was, "Ankole Longhorn" the curved-horned ones like in this image. They look horrific in a big herd but are docile as fuck. Evidently, people are really terrified of them.
>>761635
yup i wouldn't go near one of those things. in the afterlife i hope to train one to be my steed and ride it through elysium
>>760999
That's pretty scary. I ride a dual sport motorcycle on forest service, logging, fire, and other random dirt roads a lot, it would suck to hit one of those.... My bike is really tall and so am I so hopefully it would just hit me in the chest and knock me off or something.
I pretty much stick to public lands and will respect posted no trespassing signs if I see them so hopefully I'll never run into one of those. I also stick to trails meant for vehicles and don't shit up foot / bicycle paths.
>>761614
That's a tetrahedron----Alexander the Great's army used to use those against opposing calvary forces. Horse would stop on it and a calvaryman all of a sudden became an infantryman. Evened the odds quickly. I mention this to my chemistry students when we talk about tetrahedral carbon geometry.
>>761626
Curious where your area is?
>>761660
Most people I know call them caltrops
>>761614
>mfw caltrops
>>761669
Shit, he was wearing gear and wasn't even going very fast either.
depending on the test and stretch of the line, if the line doesnt give on impact, you are looking at effectively running into a wall, but the force of deacceleration is confined to the surface area of the wire. using relative speed, it probably feels like getting hit with a bat at whatever speed you were going
>>761084
So i take it you're an ATV biker then ?
>>761666
>devil trips
>skull almost smiling
>>761133
Pure bullshit
Plus, that fucking obnoxious noise
>>761707
he's talking about the cycling variety, not the motorized variety
thank you for yrou comprehension
Nails work.
>Leave No Trace
>unless its deadly traps to murder people who leave traces
this is some Scooby Doo villain level shit right here
>>761071
Who the fuck are you to stand in someone's way? I hope you get run over, stabbed, rolled down the side of a trail and left for dead.
>>761092
not true actually
traps kill/maim indiscriminately, and are therefore illegal
some guy set up a shotgun boobytrap to shoot the knees out of anyone who broke into his guesthouse, and was arrested when it did
>>761850
I do it because I can and I dare you try to pass, you shall not motherfucker!
>>761030
North East US
>>761883
lol wht a fgt
>>760999
You should not make assumptions that these are for decapaitating and you absolutely should not cut them. You do not know who put them or what their purpose is.
If it's public land feel free to alert authorities but do not cut it on your own. Some of these have be found to be triggers. If on private land you should leave the property.
>>761911
whelp this post is clear and present bullshit
>found to be triggers
what do they connect directly to tumblr?
>>761917
I sorry I struggle with english as it is not my first language. In South America especially Venezuela, Columbia, and Brasil these are being used as trip cords if triggers is wrong wording.
A couple of years back someone started hanging barbed fishing hooks along mountain biking trails to protest the use of mountain biking trails by mountain bikers. A couple of people I know got messed up pretty bad by them.
Rumor has it the son of a bitch responsable got caught in the act and got beat pretty bad before they dumped him off a ridge.
>>762049
wait, hanged barbed fishing hooks how exactly? also
>son of a bitch responsable got caught in the act and got beat pretty bad before they dumped him off a ridge.
rek'd and kek'd
>>761614
If that happened for a pupper of mine I would start breaking bones everytime I saw someone throwing that shit into trails.
>>761001
I cut my neck a bit dirt biking in an empty lake bed, some fishing line had been strung up between two trees. Not sure if it was a snag, but it didn't seem like it. Scary stuff.
>>761666
True---I meant that the shape is a tetrahedron. The four points occupy four of the eight corners of a perfect cube.
>>761635
Would not even try to pepper spray those goats from hell. Will keep me away from your property/10
>>761666
You used them to kill that anon in your pic didn't you satan?
>>760999
Put one of these on your ATV.
>>760999
Cutting fences is illegal. So is trespassing in the USA.
>>762202
>implying a decapitation trap = a fence
>implying trespassing is a criminal offense and not a civil offense
please become literate and responsible at the earliest convenience anon
>>762053
>>762207
Trespassing is a legal term that can refer to a wide variety of offenses against a person or against property. Trespassing as it relates to real estate law means entering onto land without consent of the landowner. There are both criminal and civil trespass laws.
>>762053
He would tie off some fishing line up in the trees and dangle the barbed hooks down off of it spaced out across the trail right about head/face level. Not fatal but I've met one of the guys who hit one at speed. Tore his cheek up really bad.
>>761011
>Some kid on a bike could get really hurt.
>some irresponsible boy would get hurt, so this is bad. mmmkay
>>762275
>make sure we hurt people on purpose because only dumb people would ever allow themselves to be hurt on purpose and therefore the people we hurt on purpose are dumb people who deserve to be hurt, on purpose, by me
yeah that's super reasonable, you dumb asshole
>>761054
>>761092
You're a fucking creep.
Have you people ever heard of fences? Maybe try putting up some signs or something saying that you have traps set up. Make it look like theres a grow op/still on your property, thats the last thing anyone wants to run into. Also I know a lot of you people have well established trails on your properties, in that case why not let them ride through your property? Its not like they'll be there that long, just put some private property signs up. Maybe put some signs up that say youll shoot them and leave a some targets and some spent casings laying around, make it look like a range. just some shit like that to keep them from staying too long.
>There are a million ways to keep people off of your land, anyone who resorts to using actual traps made to kill or injure people doesn't deserve to own land, they deserve to be in jail getting fucked like the gaping cunt of a person that you are.
>>761157
This. the problem is literally not with the 20 yo hedonists who could not care less for others and just do whatever they want to live through their pleasures once they follow their desires.
>>762049
>Rumor has it the son of a bitch responsable got caught in the act and got beat pretty bad before they dumped him off a ridge.
edgy
d
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I'm glad I live in a state where taking an ATV on anything smaller than a logging road for any reason besides recovering game makes you worse than Hitler. People also have a healthy respect for private property boundaries and almost all of them are marked.
>>761004
>>761009
I hope you become a vegetable and stay retarded on a bed for the rest of your lifes really.
What the fuck did bikers or runners do wrong u autistic faggots?!
>>761018
>happens all across the USA
>link is about Canada
Path erosion is mainly caused by water/rain/nature and is only barely affected by hikers/horse-riders/cyclists.The effect on stopping erosion by stopping cyclists (or hikers who don't look where they're going) using paths is negligible.
Motorbikes certainly churn the fuck out of paths though.
Most of you are forgetting that psychos set these up on public land as well even on paved trails in urban parks.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/10/portland_police_investigate_bo.html
>>762330
>implying Canada is not made of united states which are located in America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYFD18BwmJ4
omq i love this guys so bad
>>762350
Canada is not made of united states in America. Canada consists of provinces located in North America, which is part of the Americas.
>>761092
>if you have trespassing signs properly posted and people intentionally ignore them, go right ahead and set traps
>>761092
>the moment someone crosses the property line without consent, what happens to them is entirely of their own fault
Nasty child or total headcase? Hard to tell.
Setting traps for people, what could go wrong? Emergency services need to move fast on your property? Visitors? Anyone lost and in trouble should be risking horrific injury to move about because you're a gaping vagina?
Morally bankrupt.
>>762356
fat retards
>>762368
>fat retards
Dave Hall, Glenn Taylor and Dylan Taylor
>>761001
My old teacher's brother died to one he was a kid. It was on a downhill sloped hole in a bush fence to prevent neighborhood kids from using it as a shortcut.
Teacher's brother ran through it in the dark, slit his throat and died there.
>>761092
>the moment someone crosses the property line without consent, what happens to them is entirely of their own fault
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/personal-injury/liability-private-property.html
>When a person is injured on private property owned by someone else, the property owner may face liability for the injury regardless of whether the property is used for commercial or residential purposes.
>Trespassers. A homeowner must refrain from willful conduct intended to injure anyone on the property (including a trespasser). But the homeowner generally has no other responsibility to protect the safety of unanticipated trespassers. But a homeowner does have a responsibility to protect the safety of an anticipated trespasser. The homeowner must warn the trespasser of dangerous non-obvious conditions on the property, usually by putting up a sign.
Not here for trip wire and boobytrap bs, but what are some legit ways to keep people off my land? I have game cameras set up and there is a surprising amount of traffic. I call the Sheriff when I see real time activity but I have a life and cannot monitor all day. Most recent trespassers pictured. I don't want to get sued because some teeny bopper gets hurt on my land.
>>762405
Weird things, one is wearing 2 different boots. They aren't carrying water bottles that I can see and it is hot here, so not just out for exercise. Also my land is not close to anything, and the only entry point is gated with very clear signs posted.
>>761106
>go on to private land, with signs properly posted, and somehow injure myself, I deserve to collect damages from the property owner
Unfortunately yes. Recent case where burglar infured self in home that he was breaking into. Sued owner, won.
You are responsible for maintaining your property and residence.
>>762406
You have to ask what to do with that?
>>762409
fuck off with that blue state liberal logic.
in real america, nah, never gets past pretrail dismissal and third-tier toilet contingency lawyer walks out with blank stare.
>>762406
She has a cast. My sister had a similar shoe for outside use when she broke her ankle.
>>762438
But why go on a hike on my land, in the middle of nowhere, with no water and 90 degrees outside with a cast. It is just weird they are even there.
>>762439
Why not? you never just go somewhere? If you're just hanging out with a friend and you don't really have anything to do and you start walking and talking and just be like oh lets check this out, lets go there, and you end up dicking around the whole day exploring cool places and talking about life and get shitfaced in the night...
I love those kind of days
>>762447
Not when they have to climb over a large metal gate and walk by this sign to get in...
>>762436
>blue state liberal logic
>never past pretrial
Yet in 50% of America it will go to trial and in at least 70% of those cases the criminal will be awarded a judgement if there were neglect on the part of the property owner.
>>762447
>walking and talking
both have their heads tilted down, phones in hand. Great conversationalists.
Fucking females are useless. No not MGTOW, just laugh at the absurdity of 90% of an entire gender.
>>762454
I should also add that probably another 30% or so of these cases reach some type of settlement before even getting to trial.
>>762453
Huh, I'd turn around if I saw that sign. You have some ballsy trespassers anon. Maybe hang a sign up saying "Rattle Snake Preservation" if those are native to your area. Stopped people from tromping around my grandfather's place.
>>761077
Are you retarded? Runners, bikers? What the fuck have we done wrong?
>>761018
>oregon psychiatrist jailed for trapping forest, claims its because of dogs
Found you, you irl shitposting faggot. Maybe if you shot the dogs like you love to say the law wouldve ruled in your favor over the snarling rabid mutts people dare to walk near your shitty existence
>>762457
Maybe they're having a race at who can look up a certain piece of information the fastest, say a species of bird they sighted. My sister and I used to do that.
>>762552
No one does that
they texting their dealer asking where the drugs they just went to retrieve are
>>761001
I've come across these in NYC, and know a woman who rode a bike into piano wire... People can be dicks no matter what country.
And here is what a couple day time hikers turns into and why you have to be careful if you own land.
>>762609
>teenagers banging in the woods
whatever
>>762616
why are they always staring right at the camera. how do you hide a trail camera?
>>762618
That camera is not hidden, it is a commercial model in a metal lockbox, chained to a tree. It is meant to be in plain sight near my sign.
>>762623
ah i see. i'm surprised they didn't tamper with it.
are those hookers? are they hookering on your property? is the camera wifi of do you have to download the pics?
>>762626
It is wifi. I don't know what these kids are doing. I'll be camping out discretely this weekend and waiting for people to show up.
>>762465
>wanting rattlesnake enthusiasts sneaking onto your property
>>761883
you're why i never camp without a gun
>>762616
it looks like they're carrying luggage ffs.
You have stoner chicks partying on your land. Sheriff gonna take you in when they spin the story to him.
>>762642
It would make me more interested, that's for sure.
t. herpetologist
>>762632
Where does that road leads to? Seems like awfull lot of people walking through your land, and most of those look like town teens to me.
>>760999
i have a multitool, but i won't touch these.
who knows if it's tied to an antipersonnel mine or what?
>>762698
nowhere, literally nowhere. It is a small mountain road and only goes to my land. It is nowhere near town.
>>762701
they are doing drugs and drinking and fucking in your woods.
i would dress up like a sasquatch and scare the living shit out of them. then take a toll from squatcies and sell them equipment that come flocking to your woods.
>>762705
Like I said I'm going to camp out this weekend and wait, if they show up I'm going to wait until 3am or so go to their camp and raise hell. Assuming its my land I can legally hold them at gunpoint waiting for the Sheriff? Would even be funny to sneak up and lock their tent closed.
>>762708
Have fun getting shot.
>>762717
yeah I'm sure a group of teenage girls is well armed.
>>762718
I would always bring my .22 rifle and then my shotgun as a junior /out/ist.
>>762719
well as junior /out/ist you were a senior autist
>>762719
lol murricunts never change
>>762708
>>762719
lol
>>762741
exactly, can't you just be mature about it and walk up to them and tell them you really don't like them to camp there, maybe warn them you'll call the sherif next time. Explain your reasons why you don't want them to camp there, which i hope isn't just "cause it's muh property" cause really who gives a fuck if there is literally nothing as you have mentioned, start a dialogue, create some understanding, maybe give them permission and point them out a good spot on your land or public land and tell them to leave things clean and not fuck around with your stuff. Be a cool guy, give respect, earn respect, be an example, especially for young folks, and none of these guns and traps and other shit that's not solving any problems.
>>762718
Planning on a group of teens not being armed is dumb as mud. I doubt they are camping, you would have already seen signs of that. They are probably just shooting up heroin. Look for needles and vomit near some downed trees that they are sitting on.
>>762367
Not the anon your responding to but setting traps like spikes and digging pits is pretty fucked. Although if I owned land and dirt bikes tore up my land I would have no issue downing trees across the trail to make it impossible to navigate for them but walkers could easily. It definitely wouldn't be somewhere hard to notice or hard to find. It wouldn't be a let's injure these kids on atvs and dirt bikes it would be just to make it so my land wasn't a realistic option. The logs would be posted with signs to. Does that really sound unrealistic and sadistic to anons? It seems like some anons are saying that you should do nothing to impede upon people who damage private property.
>>762796
Growing up in eastern Ky, the coal companies tried every way in the world from trees to boulders to ditches to keep us out. None of them worked for long. There is almost always a way around or over obstacles.
>>762779
>which i hope isn't just "cause it's muh property"
Spoken like somebody who doesn't own something and doesn't realize the legal ramifications of letting people run around on your land.
muh property is 110% why.
>>762829
It was mentioned there was nothing there, just woods, what legal ramifications could happen? Also don't get paranoid because of a few cases that hit the media cause of a loophole in the system or mistake from the judge etc... If it was this easy to sue people would setup "accidents" on private property all the time just to get some money out of it. The odd risk of an accident happening at your property, the people suing you AND winning the case is probably a lot smaller then the risk of an escalated situation, such as a fight, vandalism at your property for revenge...
And Scandinavia has this law that people can roam freely over all the land, i don't hear any more problems from there, except that most people find it awesome
But yeah if you really think holding them at gunshot is the best way to solve the situation than go for it, its impossible to argue with you guys, just like with the bear spray-gun discussion
>>762829
> doesn't realize the legal ramifications of letting people run around on your land.
I think he means that separably.
Like, he hopes you're not all 'CAUS ITS MINE!', and instead are actually concerned about shit that matters. (LIke the possibility of you getting in trouble.)
>>761368
Chinese convict labor shitposting patrol gtfo
>>762908
The problem with running cattle or other livestock on a property is that you'd have to actually build a fence around the property to keep them in... If there was a fence with a locked gate in place then people wouldn't be trespassing in the first place more than likely.
I've had many hikers go missing on my property here in Wyoming. The wilderness can be dangerous sometimes, but I like to think of it as a learning experience.
>>761911
I would imagine it would be pretty apparent which were triggers and which were not... assuming it's just a wire tied off on both ends it probably doesn't trigger anything
...Unless it's electric and cutting the cord breaks a circuit that sets a trap off or somethin
>>762609
>>762613
>>762616
Look at the pictures, they're obviously just some kids having a party. Stop sperging out. They're not hookers, they're not junkies, they're not supervillains building a fucking doomsday machine, they're just going out there to drink and party without getting busted by the cops. The posters saying that they're doing all kinds of crazy bullshit must be true oldfags, it's obvious they've never been to a high school party.
Now I'm not saying you should just let them be, if something happens you could probably get jewed with some liability bullshit or something. Probably the best thing you could do is have the cops bust them in the act. One of these wireless ding dongers would let you know when something passes by if you're home but the range between the sensor and the receiver is limited. Best I could find was this one with a range of half a mile "in ideal conditions" so I dunno if that's gonna work for you but its 40 bucks on Amazon.
www dot amazon dot com slash Chamberlain-CWA2000-Wireless-Motion-System slash dp slash B002ISVJL6
Fucking spam filter
>>763018
Drinking alcohol is degenerate they deserve to die.
>>761398
After your buddy recovered did you go back to this old man and cut him up before burying him in the woods...?
>>762871
>CAUS ITS MINE!
how is this not a legitimate reason? DO you let other people you don't know take your car, or your bicycle, or hang out in your living room?
How would you feel if you woke up and there were 8 people hanging out in your kitchen making breakfast?
If you're not OK with that, tell me how this is different.
OP, please share the boobie flash pictures. She knows that camera is there and I've never known a stoner chick that could keep her shirt on in that situation.
>>763101
a person's home and dwelling ≠ open land
freedom to roam ≠ breaking & entering
trespassing ≠ menacing
using ≠ stealing
society has over the course of millenia worked-out norms, legislation, and legal precedents that allow and disallow a plethora of behaviors and activites based on what is deemed socially acceptible
>>763107
this,
I also think people shouldn't be able to own land in the first place.Some kind of long term contract leasing system would be way better. Ethically, economically and environmentally.
>>763258
Fucking commie get the fuck out.
>>763258
>I also think people shouldn't be able to own land in the first place
>mfw
>>761071
>I have literally nothing to loose
You sound pretty loose to me
>>761619
Holy fuck, someone who hates everyone EXCEPT the jews. You're reverse Hitler
>>763366
I think he means the ATV riders and the Jew are dicks, everyone else he knows is chill.
>>762708
Charge them money to stay on your property.
>>763337
>>763311
Well, i think land is a universal good and doesn't belong to anyone. Its like owning a part of the atmosphere or sunlight or stuff like that. From an ethical point of view i think it shouldn't be owned, and if owned there should be freedom to roam.
Economically and environmentally a long term lease system would have a lot of benefits as it will be easier to make changes in land use planning, because now land use planning was fixed a few generations ago and we can hardly change a thing but the world has changed drastically. Also land would be used more efficiently since there are no land investors anymore, so profit from land can only come from an added value, with a good system this can also be ecological value. Another advantage is that land would be more prone to switching of landholders, with the benefits of centralising buisenesses, more buiseness growth potential, more ecological compensation potential, less agricultural land fragmentation because of inheritance...
Think about it...
>>761003
Yeah I'm in Texas and I've got caught in a nail trap before. People do that shit all the time. Nails, homemade directional explosives that can burn down the woods, rows of fishhooks on fishing line.
It's kind of messed up. People do that shit to protect a few pot plants.
>>761241
>xenophobic
Is that the condition where people are scared of Lucy Lawless?
>>763402
>Think about it...
Okay just short: I work my ass of so that I can buy more land that I can leave to my children (No.2 on its way) when I die.
If the land will go back to the state(?). Why should I work when nothing will last?
Maybe I think this way because I am Polish...
We Poles got lucky that not all of us were forced to give up our land. But ask other fellow east europeans how well any type of deprivatisation worked? Starting with the ukrainian kulaks
It is always the fucking same: "No our communist vision is different!" and it always ends in shit.
>>762719
>I carry a gun in case I need to shoot the owner of the property I'm illegally squatting on
The punji spikes and decapitation wires are sounding better the more I read the thread, desu...
>>763402
Another big advantage would be easier implementation of infrastructure projects
>>762779
>give permission to a bunch of kids to knowingly break the law on your property
>I'm sure their parent's Legal Jew will be just as cool when one of them ODs and dies in an area I gave them knowing permission to be on
You've literally never owned anything outside of your parent's basement. Admit it.
>>761660
That's a caltrop dickhead, a tetrahedron is a solid shape
>>761712
He made the mistake of calling himself a 'biker' like a faggot. If you don't have an engine, you're a cyclist, you nancy boy
>old guy buys patch of land from the state
>the access to a trail I've been using with my firends since we were 15 is on that patch
>very frequented both by bikers and hikers
>it's just a short dirt track that bring to a proper /out/ trail
>old guy decides people should not use this access despise the fact the state sold the patch of land on the terms that the track needs to be open to the public
>starts hanging wire between the trees on the track in the tightest point so it's well hidden
>we cut it periodically and nobody gets injured
>he keeps putting this 7-8m barbed wire up
>he buys the wire from the town hardware store
>the owner's daughter is my gf
>at first he kept telling me when he would come into the store to buy more wire
>so that me and my firends could go and cut it
>someday he just said fuck it and bought a huge amount of it
>we're fed up
>I go talk to his wife wich coincidentally was my elementary school teacher
>a mean bitch
>few days later come to know he's in the hospital
>turns out his wife beat the fuck out of him with a frying pan and gave him an heart attack
>no more wire
Kek
>>762202
But what about all those freedums, america?
>>762392
So put up a few fake warning signs about abandoned mine shafts / loose bulls / wild spurdos. Problem solved
>>762453
They probably think it's just to scare people from going in.
Plus, what are the cops going to do about 2 teenage girls walking through private property? Wag their finger at them?
>>762350
Holy fuck the American school system
>>763424
Why does it have to be land you want to leave to your children? There are so many other things you can invest in for your children which are way easier to interchange so you children have the option of doing what they want with it instead of splitting your land in two or more and fragment the land so land use gets even less efficient.
And i'm not talking about a revolution, land that is legally owned and used now should at least stay that way until the owner dies or given the option for some kind of compensation. Also the lease agreements would have minimum term caps so at least for housing they could be life term contracts. Investments on the land such as structures should be well described in the leasing agreement and amortized in a way so that when the contract ends the remaining value should be paid back to the holder or inheritants. Prolonging contracts after term or decease should be optional depending on the type of contract.
>>762609
Sneak up near them with a recording of a chainsaw idling, then a guy laughing, then a woman screaming as the chainsaw revs. Chuck in a couple of real-life shotgun blasts into the air for effect.
Might get some money for their stuff on ebay, if you clean the shit off first.
>>762708
Report them for heavy drug use, then watch as the cops arrive and give them all cavity searches
>>762680
That one chick taking a massive handbag innawoods as she smirks at the trail cam
ugh what a whore
>>762779
>thinking shit like this would ever work
Kek this shit is hilarious
t. high school teacher
>>763342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeT5otk2R1g
>>763371
>Only the ATV riders grew up to be dicks, except one guy, but he's Jewish
>except one guy, but he's Jewish
>except one guy
>except
>>763463
Okay, cool. Give me all your stuff then and I'll give it to my kids.
>>761071
I would knock you the fuck out if you were trying that
I personally know a vietnam vet that has bear traps in his front lawn, two 9mm UZI that pop out of holes on his front porch(his mailbox is like 2 miles away from his property and he personally requests a specific mailman that he happens to know, it is a small county) and he has train tracks that run through his property with explosives rigged to go off in the area, which explode anout 20 yards away from where the person tripped it. People sometimes walk on the tracks, so explosives was his fix for that problem. Once they go off he checks for bodies about an hour later. I do not know if he has ever found any. He occassionally loses one of his cows to his multiple traps. His house is fortified and he has cameras everywhere, in his basement is a preppers dream. He has literal crates of dozens of AK47s which he says he will give to the town when shit hits the fan and a safe room that can only be entered one person at a time due to a giant 6 inch thick piece of steel that he basically built the house around. He of course has gas masks and rations and all the other prepper things you would expect. A few grenades too. He keeps a gun on top of a 2 inch thick blackwater contract that he never went through with. Well, he keeps guns everywhere, really. Vietnam vets can be totally insane but this guy is insane with money. Hes cool, but you just have to call him a few days in advance if you want to come over into his "country" as he puts it. He has a class 3 weapons permit too, which he just loves.
>>761071
I hate you with every fiber of my body and would actually fight you for such stupid behavior.
>>763469
What will not work?
>>763432
How do you know they're using hard drugs?
besides, the people OD'ing are mainly degenerate heroine users in their 20's that don't leave their drug dungeons and won't go all the way to some chill spot in the middle of nowhere. These are just kids drinking or smoking pot or maybe taking some molly.
>>763484
When's your 12th birthday?
I have had quads and dirtbikes as long as I can remember and I definately do know people that destroy property, planted crops and just cause havoc. I was always repsectful about it to be honest, stayed on marked trails and never tol the quad out when it was muddy (mainly becuase I had a Banshee with no fenders) and I always hated the assholes on the 4x4s that would tear the place up just to get a lil muddy. I understand youre hate for them as I share it, but not every guy on a bike or quad is scum and some of us just want to respectfully enjoy the outdoors just as much as you do. Always slow down when passing other machines and people not on machines and stay on marked trails and off private property, pretty easy.
>>761626
Pics?
>>762854
Freedom to roam is mianly something Sweden has.
>>763484
Tell of more of this based killer
>>763517
He was in one of the original Force Recon classes and got to cut a lot of necks. He swears that most of his military buddies have disappeared over the years and he does not intend to be one of them. He likes to work on his Chevy Nova which has like 600 hp. He is old but pretty damn scary.
>>763522
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>762275
Because you never did stupid, irresponsible shit when you were a kid, amirite?
>>763474
Meaning the Jew wasn't an ATV rider, but he was a dick.
>>761028
>I would kill a redneck
>I wouldn't kill a teenager
But teens are way worse than rednecks
>>763466
this could work even better if you plant some extra drugs in their shit without them seeing you at night.
excellent idea.
>>763626
I wouldn't kill anyone anon. I just think the adult is more malicious is all and it's fun to dream
>>762202
smoking weed is illegal
>>763406
Holy shit, I live in Texas too, where are you finding these traps? Is it mostly on public land in the national forests or wildlife management areas?
>>762327
its all about thin/cash privilege.. they cant run or afford bikes so they fuck up other peoples fun..
>>763448
Freedom goes to the property owner who gets to decide who he lets use his land and under what terms they can use it. Property is bought and sold all the time, if you want some land then all you have to do is go buy it. If you cannot afford to buy land then you can go make use of whatever public land you want -- national parks/forests, state parks, county and municipal parks, wildlife management areas, Army Corps of Engineers land, etc.
>>763048
My friends camp out as often as we can. I'm the only one in my group who comes here but they would fit right in if they did, they are /out/ as much as anyone ITT. That being said we drink all night sometimes, even if it means packing it miles in when we rough camp.
I agree that drinking is degenerate. Just because it's not as degenerate as shoving a needle in your arm doesn't mean it's not. Just because lots of us drink more than we should doesn't mean it's not a weakness we willingly partake in because reasons.
Fuck off pretending honestly opining about anything is /pol/, that is some weak shit. All of us do stupid shit that causes harm to our long term health and saying that's true isn't being /pol/ , hurtful or wrong.
Go find your safe space somewhere else you pussy commie, we say what we want on 4chan.
>>762467
be able to run or ride a bike without fainting... thats all you have to do..
>>763101
Because there's such a thing as being reasonable and caring about others.
It's called not being a selfish human being, dickhead.
>>763484
>class 3 weapons permit
No such thing exists, go to /k/ to get schooled on how to acquire NFA restricted weapons and accessories.
>>763490
High school kids OD all the time from popping pills and drinking at the same time. Or from doing coke or any number of other drugs really. It's not just strung-out junkies who OD.
>>761883
inb4 some faggot tries this shit with me and gets knocked over and i fucking jet out of there leaving you to pick up your ass and whatever shit fell out of it..
>>763597
>Jew was a dick
Thank you, at least I'm not the only one that interpretted this correctly.
I've got this sign posted on my property. It keeps them out.
>>763758
I can care about others without letting twats that dont know and don't ask my permission onto my land. I can be philanthropic as all fuck.
Bottom line is how is my land different than your kitchen? Trespassing vs b&e - semantics at best if the land is fenced and posted. How about if I take a dump on your front porch? That wasn't behind closed doors so I didn't break in, or maybe I just drop one on the front lawn. How is that different than you camping and shitting in my woods?
Can I set up a tent in your backyard in a residential neighborhood?
Time to start thinking like a grownup...
>>763781
+1
>>763782
>Time to start thinking like a grownup...
Agreed. I'll go first.
Someone passing through a patch of land far away from you is not the same as someone breaking into your house in an attempt to commit robbery or assault.
>>763782
>respassing vs b&e - semantics at best
Certainly god damn not.
You are seriously going to compare breaking into someone's house and hanging out in their kitchen, to walking around and looking at the trees of hundred acre properties?
The concerns over danger, or property damage, or you getting in trouble for someone else is understandable, but 'IT MINE! MINE!' solely?
That's a toddler's temper tantrum and not an attitude I'd expect to find in a full grown man.
>>761066
Looks staged as fuck
