what gods does /out/ subscribe to?
what gods protect the wanderer, the only one i know is Odin,
ive heard the Catholics have some?
what are yours
Yog-Sothoth is the key and the gate
>>760687
>ive heard the Catholics have some?
We catholics are monotheists bro. Just one God.
>>760687
Saint Christopher is the one you're talking about. I have his image on a small coin-shaped keychain. Not even religious, just muh superstition I guess.
>>760708
There's arguments that the trinity and the saints are a form of polytheism, but it's really just a matter of point of view
>>760712
The dude's pretty /out/.
>>760687
Catholics don't have gods they have saints.
I used to have a saint patrick medal to ward off snakes but i don't know what happened to it
>>760713
Indeed it can be argued. I agree with you.
>>760716
Stolen, by a snake.
>>760716
St guinefort is best Saint
>>760716
St. Bernard of Menthon is the most /out/ saint by far. Literally a search a and rescue monk
Ullr/Wuldor for the hunt, and general woodsman stuff.
I almost always give a blessing to a yew tree (Ullr's tree) when I go camping.
Also, if you don't live in Europe then don't bother worshipping the gods, their power doesn't extend to Europe and they don't give a shit about non-Europeans.
>not worshiping the goddess of the woods
>he doesn't sing a galder and carve runes into his gear before going out
it is like you want trolls and various wights to pester you
>>760801
>their power doesn't extend to Europe
uh?
>>760687
Just the one God.
>>760873
Which one is that?
I perform sacred rituals to Silvanus while basking in the moonlight.
>>760834
The indeginous gods only extend to their areas. Regional wights or well gods only live in their homes (trees, stones, streams, etc and Wells.)
The gods of Europe don't go outside of Europe.
>>760904
So I'm stuck here in America and have to worship a gosh darn beaver god?
>>760910
you have to worship the injun gods, but you're not an injun, so you can't. So you have to go to Europe to worship the pagan gods basically
>>760911
>that absolutelly barbaric pic you attached
Disgusting
>>760911
if you have injun blood within a few generations you can worship the gods of the Americas, it just takes more to earn their respect. I just need to marry a blasian and then my family can worship most of the world's gods
>>760911
>Battle of the Teutoburg Forest
those stinky barbarians would get theirs
>>760916
>>760925
>romans mad that they got rekt at teutoburg
If you support the Romans then GTFO off /out/, Germanic Tribes were the most GOAT /out/doorsmen who fought against the romans.
>>760918
Don't know about injuns so I wouldn't know.
Catholics sort of chose their own patron saint at their conformation. I chose based Saint Brendan, this nigga:
>sailed to America
>made camp on an island that turned out to be a sea monster
>fought off an Ethiopian devil worshiper
>killed another sea monster by shifting the sea so it gets bitten by a second sea monster, the crazy mofo and his crew then eat the monster
>find Judas chilling on a rock in the ocean, based Brendan protects him from demons for a night
>find a Hermit who wears nothing but hair and is fed by an otter
The dude even has his own feast day, May 16th, which I'm saving a very nice piece of steak for
>>760930
I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the loight.
>>760843
Ill pray to his shrine with an offering of beer and dead kikes.
>>760932
>The Voyage of St Brendan the Abbot
I'm bringing this for my next overnighter
http://markjberry.blogs.com/StBrendan.pdf
>>760935
You ain't get those legions back Varus
>>760977
one of the things that makes me moast sad is the standards were taken from all three legio and only one was ever recovered. according to roman mythology and whatnot that means all those soldiers aren't protected or honored in the afterlife, and it's an offensive omen for the whole society.
those standards might still exist, corroded bronze buried somewhere in the ¥erman countryside. i hope they're found somehow someday
>>760897
Not that anon but obviously he meant Vishnu, since all the other gods are just part of him dreaming the universe.
>>760713
That can only be argued by non catholics because they obviously don't understand it. I am aetheist, but I was raised in a strict catholic family. The trinity is not confusing when you understand it, same with saints. I've never even heard of a conflict with saints honestly.
>>760897
Considering the capitalization, I think it's obvious.
>>760998
No it's not
I'm guessing Jehovah though, because of the arrogance
>>761081
Proper noun usage vs common noun usage isn't arrogance.
It's basic understanding of English.
>>760713
For trinitism, the best argument I saw was imagine ice water and steam. All are the same element, but different forms. That's the nature of God.
The saints are venerated people who are severents of the Lord but have no real god-like powers. They may influance, but cannot change.
>>761117
Using the capitalized “God” for Jehovah is arrogance.
It assumes there are no other gods, when there are thousands, or it assumes that the other gods are not as equally valid as yours, when they are.
>>761163
>It assumes there are no other gods
making it a proper noun doesn't assume there are no other gods. it's just a proper noun when referring to a specific.
there are presidents, but there is this President
there are prime ministers, but there is the Prime Minister
there are kings, but there is the King
there are gods, but there is God
different people with different beliefs would capitalize as they see fit
>>761171
>different people with different beliefs would capitalize as they see fit
You just proved the other guy's point, you know.
>>761225
Except it's literally his western name.
Stop pooing on the trial and poo in a hole instead.
>>760687
There's a verse in the Havamaal about remembering to pack enough food for long travel.
Also some about keeping all your firewood in one pile so it's easier to judge how much you have
Pretty cool text
>>761226
No it isn't, his name is Yahweh which is westernized as Jehovah.
>>760687
I am god.
>>761246
Well. Actually. We don't really know. Consonant language and all that jazz
>>760731
>Search and rescue monk
>searching for wanderers in his Jehovah-brand helicopter
>having a trained squad of monks who find you by praying
The image is cool for a movie.
>>760820
>trolls and various wights
>trolls
What rune should I carve into my PC?
>>760981
I didn't see those feels coming, anon.
>>760977
>>760981
>>761432
The romans deserve it for trying to put their shitty technology everwhere and trying to domesticate the wild peoples of Northern Europe.
>>760904
Odin himself rode to Hel and beyond, surely his power extends all over midgard
>>761454
Midgard only refers to the area the gods lived, which is Northern and Western Europe. It only extends to Germanic countries, pic related.
Never fails to amaze me how stupid people are. Ever wonder what you might fill your heads with instead of this bullshit? Keep holding yourselves back for ancient moralilty and ethics that dont mean shit and never have meant shit except to entertain and control the local populations. Now youre free from the control, per se, but you still happily sit where youre told. Way to go religitards.
>>761452
>posts pitcher of obsurdly idealized barbarian horde
>ironically the tecnique and style of the painting is directly inhereted from our classical greek and roman foundations
>>761461
>euphoric
>>761464
>he's right better call him a fedora wearing neckbeard atheist autismo
you sure showed him anon
>>760930
>"master race"
> having to wear a roman helmet because it was superior to all helmets they could make by themselves
Sure bro.
And i`m a 192 cm tall german. They were not that great.
Also: Arminius/Hermann was a fucking backstabbing traitor. Raised and trained by the romans, son-in-law to General Varus... traitor. He will even by germanic tradition never find peace.
>>761462
>implying it's idealised
The romanticist artists were painting in greek and roman styles but were inspired by the Germanic peoples.
>>761473
It's obviously a helmet they looted off the Romans and kept as a reward.
The Germans were great. Arminius was not a backstabber. He was indoctrinated to be a Roman, and then found his true roots and fought for his country back. The romans were degenerates.
>inb4 you think the romans were good because they brought "muh technology"
>>761474
but the romans were good because they brought muh technology
>>761474
>romans
>degenerate
They gave you people civilized laws so you would stop taking your guts out to prove a point.
>>761477
I beg to disagree, Friendo
http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf
>>761458
Midgard is the realm of mankind, surely that would encompass more then just Europe
>>761480
>believing in the civilisation meme
>>761484
no. Mandkind is the realm of the Germanic people
Celtic gods exist in their own areas. Slavic gods exist in their own areas. African, South American, North American, Asian, etc Gods exist in places where they have traditionally been worshipped. They're not omnipotent, all powerful beings, they are "people" that have a sphere of Influence somewhere in the world.
>>761486
>Mandkind is the realm of the Germanic people
im interested, what do you base this idea that the gods are limited by region from?
>>761486
Srs question. What's this ideology you're quoting that states that gods are attached to their respective geographical areas? Interesting desu
>>761319
http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/charms.html
Saint George.
He is the patron saint of farmers, soldiers, archers, prisioners, blacksmiths, scouts, and outdoorsman.
He also protects against wild animals.
>>761487
History. Surely, if the god's influence everywhere, then people would worship the Germanic gods only? Or if all the gods exist and rule everywhere, every person would choose and cherrypick their own god because they rule everywhere and there are hundreds to pick from.
Also, the gods are limited to Ethnicity. If you're an Englishman worshipping Woden, and go To wales (celtic, not Germanic) then the gods still might have a little power. If you go to america, then that's too far away and they have no power. If a white tries to worship native american gods, then the gods will not respond. If a black tries to worship European Gods, then the Gods will not care.
my idea is that the Gods of each people's were chosen (or chose themselves) that ethnic group, and can only give influence to where that ethnic group is located. Of course, their influence can only go so far. If all of Hungary moves to Finland, the slavic gods may have influence there. If they go to America or Africa, the gods will still have no influence.
It's just my speculation and thoughts on the matter, but that's what I think.
>>760904
That spear is way too bent to be well balanced
>>761489
> >>761493
It's called Odalism.
https://thuleanperspective.com/2013/07/31/why-odalism/
Jehovah. I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness (not practising since 16 - 27 now), so it is really ingrained into me. I was reading about Krishna, and some of the lore is very interesting, meditating is also appealing. I just don't think I could ever take is as seriously as my tradition.
>>761496
As someone who is frequently visited by jehovas trying to "show me the light" is there something i can do to make them stop?
I mean it was fun the first 15-20 times when i was trying to come up with new weird shit to do when they showed up but i am running out of ideas and they are starting to become annoying by now.
I am starting to think since i actually started opening the door and talking with them they have got it in their head that i am a possible future convert for them, but now i just want them to go away.
Telling them to go away only works until next week when new people show up, so if there is anything special i can do to get on some sort of blacklist it would be nice.
Preferably something that will not get me on some sort of sex offender list.
>Opening the door with nothing on but pair of boxers, no reaction
>Opening the door with 10 inch bowie knife in my belt, no reaction
>Opening the door with a handgun in the front of my waistband, no reaction
>Opening the door with loud porn playing on the TV, no reaction
>>761498
Have you told them you're not interested?
If it's really a problem for you, just ask that you be put on the "Do not call list". When houses are marked as "do not calls", the witnesses in the territory will skip your house.
You don't have to be mean or do anything weird or offensive, just ask politely.
I suppose if I worship anything, it is the timeless beauty of nature, and the wisdom of gentleness.
>>761500
Yeah i tried, problem is there is some sort of meeting center for them close by and every group of them that come visit send out their own group of people to go door to door.
So every week there is a new group.
The local ones have stopped since i asked them, maybe if i call them up and ask them to give the visiting people the same list of houses to avoid.
>>761495
>https://thuleanperspective.com/2013/07/31/why-odalism/
It's very similar to the nazi thesis tbqh
>Ôðalism is advocating the repatriation of all non-Europeans in Europe as the solution to the genocidal politics lead by most European nations today – and also repatriation of all unmixed Europeans from the former European colonies. Because of the young age of the Native American population, going no more than 18,000 years back in time, and also because of the fact that the Native American population is a mix between Asians and Europeans, America is a special case and should be treated as such.
>>761498
shit I want a nice fried halibut now
>>761505
Yea, they're not supposed to be doing that, it's that kind of crap that really gives JW's a bad name. Sounds to me like their congregation needs work. Sorry they are bothering you so much.
How often do you get called on? It shouldn't be very often at all. I don't know about any number to call, but you might just have to tell every group who knocks on your door that you are a "do not call" and they shouldn't be doing calling on you.
>>761125
what are the saints in this analogy? Are they like cans of soda or something?
does /out/ have any religious jewelry?
im thinking of getting a thors hammer pendant
>>761509
Yeah that is what surprised me, since the local ones were so polite and friendly.
They have been showing up every week the last three months or so.
I don't even understand how this little shithole of a town can have so many of them visiting.
They are not really bothering me very much, it's just a bit annoying that they keep showing up even after i asked them to stop.
In general my experience of Jehovah's Witnesses has been very positive as the local group has been very friendly and polite, even after i told them i am not interested.
Some of them were actually pretty cool to talk with and they mostly keep to themselves but still say hello and make small talk if i see them out on the town.
>>761515
Wow, once a week is insane. They should not be calling any more than once a month, and around here it's more like once every two months.. Any more than that doesn't even make sense for them because they only put out a new magazine monthly.
Saint Franci of Assisi was a /out/ hermit, read a good book on him when I was younger.
>>761528
He would have been a tripfag at /an/
>>761507
Don't worry dude, he's just some fag who thinks being Folkish means you have to live in your ancestors homes.
I swear, some pagans are just fucking Edgelords who want to be different, and claim to be of Germanic, or Celtic, or whatever decent just to act like they're some badass ancient warrior.
>>761493
Well it sounds very nice if you happen to live in the land of your ancestors. It's tailored to your needs if that's the case.
>>761532
i bet Loki would shitpost on /out/
>>761507
varg isn't a nazi though t b h
he says a lot of weird shit though
>>761535
relax mate. Truuuuust me the one's who want to be badass go viking paganism route.
>>761538
sorry mate
>>761610
Srs question. Do you decorate some of your gear with runes or other native embellishments? Could you post pics if so?
>>761610
Who do you blot to for /out/ blessings?
>>761610
I am an American Heathen, because it's what my ancestors were (certifiable thanks to my families obsession with record keeping) not because I 'want to be badass'
Just saying man, the gods have power over all of Midgard, not just the Germanic areas.
>>761495
>Odalism.
Kek. Opinions disregarded.
What ... what if ... what if /out/ created it's own religion? God's specifically for outdoorsmanship?
Ideas thoughts ?
>>760687
I'll go with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism?oldformat=true
>>762252
oh get the fuck out
>>761513
can an american go a single analogy without thinking about drinking sugar
>>760873
And Muhammad is his prophet.
>>760687
Not one mention of Buddhism? For shame.
>>761628
Where do your roots lie? Are you at least of proto-germanic descent?
>>762390
>>760714
St. Christopher is OG /out/
>>761620
All my gear is bought, so I don't put runes on it. When I make a bow and a knife myself I will add some runes to it, I feel like it would be silly to add runes on something that's made overseas, instead of by a friend, a company here or myself.
>>761621
Ullr/Wuldor, Woden, Thunor, Frige
>>761628
What do you think of other religions and gods? Do you believe that Heathenism is the ONLY religion and others are "false"? Just asking, curious to hear what you think
>>761650
That picture does represent the average Black metal fan.
>>761486
Things false. African gods from West and Central Africa are worshipped throughout Latin America, Europe, the U.S. and Japan by those of African, partial African and non-African ancestry.
It's silly to say our gods are only for people who look like us lol
We are arguably the most widespread and diverse polytheistic religious complex on earth mostly because Europeans, Natives and Asians have adopted our pantheons and have found them to be actual regions and not reconstructions made by good hearted but rather naive peoples
>>762722
>We are
Who dat
>Europeans, Natives and Asians have adopted our pantheons
Example?
>>760687
gods are dead
we made them up and we killed them
only the children and mentally handicapped believes in them now
>>762727
Africans.
Candomble, Umbanda, Santeria and Vodou to name a few are found throughout Western Europe, the US, Canada, Latin America and Asia.
Pic related are practitioners of Umbanda in Japan. Some are Portuguese, Japanese or a mix of both worshiping African gods.
>>762775
Susanne Wenger was a Sculptor, artist and High Priestess of Osun. Decades ago she stopped the desecration of the Sacred Gives with other pracrioners and was highly acclaimed for her creative works that represented the orisha's power through building temples and shrines.
Quite funny that she utilized African influenced European artists compounded with the vibrant works of Yoruba artisans but it goes to show how all can find their place within African Traditional Religions.
Race isn't a big deal to the orisha/loa when people are humble and reverent.
>>762790
Sally Ann Glassman is a Ukrainian Jew from Maine who is arguably the most well known priestess in NOLA (mostly because her novelty amongst tourists but she also does good work).
There are many non-black practioners is what I'm saying but most people regardless of color don't talk about their faith because of biases and stereotypes.
>>762252
dubs decide our god's name
rolling for steve
>>760801
Isn't Skadi the godess of the hunt?
>>761493
Hows Neil Gaiman treating you
>>760687
Saint Anthony patron saint of lost children and precious things. "Tony, Tony, turn around, something is lost that can't be found."
>>760687
Fharlanghn my brother. Keep wandering, the road is the best teacher.
>>762951
Steve, god of moras
>>761458
You are just baiting now.
>>761495
I like Varg.
I worship the secretive and beautiful goddess of the woods and glens, Artemis, just like the Spartans of old.
>>760687
Jesus H Christ, patron god of obese americans and starving africans.
>>760991
They act as intermediaries between a person, and God/Jesus. Pretty sure that's not I'm the bible. Pretty sure that's frowned upon.
>>760708
>being catholic
>not wearing a st christopher's necklace and saying the travelers prayer when ever innawoods
might as well be an episcopalian
I like to dedicate my campfire to various deities with a little bit of alcohol as an offering. Usually Dionysus and Hephaestus because they fit the theme but any deity I can remember the name of is fair game.
Once in the winter I dedicated the fire to Borealis, temperature that night got a bit colder than I prepared for. The god of winter isn't a fan of fire apparently. Never again.
>>761486
>Gods don't travel with their people
I love this maymay
>>761125
>For trinitism, the best argument I saw was imagine ice water and steam. All are the same element, but different forms. That's the nature of God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLfgaUoQCw
So /out/, mountain or sky?
Artémis Orthia duh
>not worshipping the earth and reality itself
Go pantheist
>>761514
I have this axehead pendant. It looks like The runestone on The cover of Moonsorrow album Kivenkantaja.
>>767493
Not bait, it's my H O N E S T opinion. Feel free to argue with it.
>>767496
Every smart man does.
>>769030
Argue with it then.
>>760687
I don't subscribe to any gods but I follow a few on Twitter
Worked for me so far on my journeys
Who here practices memetic magick?
>>770740
>>770740
i'm a Level 19 Grand Pontiff, you?
>>770751
What is this "geeps" and why do you make them?
>>770770
i'unno
>>770779
Well I like them. So keep it up!
I'm originally from Haida Gwaii (Haida/Irish ancestry), so the deities I feel a sense of connection to stem from the animistic customs of my indigenous side. Raven (my peoples' trickster deity) & Gyhldeptis (a forest goddess) are the two beings that I regularly pray to. Unfortunately, we ended up moving to Ontario a few years ago, so the regional ties to Haida spirituality have grown weaker since my family left.
>>771552
Also, cool to see another Kaczynski fan on this board. There were always a ton of environmentalists & aging hippies in Massett that were obsessed with him back in the 90s. Considering the logging protests & split between extractivist & back-to-the-landers on the main island, many arguments sprung up after Ted's manifesto came out.
murderkube
>>771552
>760687
Is it worth invading and establishing a colony on those islands?
The spirits within nature. I don't know if they are real or not but I choose to believe in them. Example, the Man of the Mountains. In a certain canyon I frequent, every once in a while, I see faces in the scenery. Not huge over a widespread space but small in the shapes of a few rocks or features here and there. When returned to, there is no face, maybe there are factors for not seeing it. Regardless, it's not every time this happens. It's usually during severe weather of sorts or those moments that couldn't be more perfect in beauty (You know these moments that stop you and you know without a doubt why you bother hiking those trails.). They are either for that one beautiful moment or consistent through the weather (multiple sightings of a face.) Never in a bland moment or on every pass. I think there is a spirit that dwells within the beauty of the canyon. It can control a small amount of what happens within it's domain. It's what draws people to see it and find peace within it. It's raw nature/raw beauty. Very rooted in the history of the earth. When I think the spirit might be showing itself (when I see something odd like a face/ or an event that times like something is listening) I just thank them or ask for safe passage with a thank you(a small prayer to that specific spirit, recognized.). IDK. It's the gods I've found and its the gods I like. I don't know much about them. Only they offer me un-matched peace and beauty. I'm thankful for at least that.
>>771982
fucking hell it's like you come from 10000 years ago. religion itself is retarded enough but yours seems to be as primitive as the first monkeys dreamed it up.
>>772068
That is the core and I think the least rudiculous. I feel and practice the same.
It gives a sense of purpose and meaning to ones wanderings and reverance for Nature.
>>760843
der fürher had some sexy ass legs
>no homo
>>772070
so you just throw away hundred thousand years of intellectual progress?
>>772219
>Implying it's progress
I mean it, I dont see it as progress but as moving away from the core and mixing it with People trying to gain from the Desire of others to Experience the divine.
Heh. Romuva here. The nature and the whole world are our gods. We don't often say prayers to pray, we mostly sing hyms, chants and songs.
>>772220
i'm sorry i lost you there my materialist mind is incapable to comprehend what you are saying.
>>760904
So when the norse went to Newfoundland they were no longer protected by their gods?
>>760930
Aren't those Dacians with their draco ? I would pray to Zamolxes (main Dacian religion and because I'm Romanian), but I couldn't really find much on them.
>>771908
I like you
>>760722
kek
Not really. I do some stuff to ward off the Wild Hunt and normally leave some sort of offering for anything living in the area.
>>762252
/k/ have kubeism so why the fuck not??
>>772578
Alright, I'll try and explain it to you.
First of all some background on my perception.
I was raised a moderate christian, turned evangelical around my 12th till my 16th. After that I Identify as an agnost.
I still feel a need coming back to believe in something more, to have greater meaning. To do that I have chosen to in a sense to revere the forces of nature and natural beauty. I am interested in pagan lore and Nordic and Finnish mythology.
I feel they are more closer in practices and essence to our natural desire to experience something greater. They practically have personified the forces of nature. In that sense closer to the core.
Christianity, Islam are in my view a construct based on the same desire but had more possibility to monopolize it and give the powers that be possibility to use it for their gain and control of the masses.
So you might call that intellectual progress. But to me it's not a matter of intellect but of emotional/spiritual desire and the quest to make sense of this life in a fulfilling way.
>>762394
Buddhist here.
The Buddha lived /out/ for 50+ years, the forces of nature and trees specifically played essential parts of his journey and then his teaching.
And I love that in Buddhism one can honour the local spirits or even gods healthily and still be Buddhist, my teacher told me that it would be better for us in the west to become healthy pagans first, as long as we don't absolutise or cling to those 'gods', it would encourage a more full appreciation of the forces of nature and a respect and awe that I feel that the psychological effect of scientific materialism has robbed us of.
I believe seeing and believing in gods is a healthy and good practice, as long as those beliefs are subject to the deeper reality of impermanence and the concept of a soul isn't involved.
>>772219
Calm down there goyim
>>773287
>I still feel a need coming back to believe in something more, to have greater meaning.
why tho? probably there is no such thing.
>emotional/spiritual desire and the quest to make sense of this life in a fulfilling way
good luck with that, tho if you want to experience something that will chill you to the bone you should study astronomy.
shit is crazy makes you feel some damn insignificant and also very special.
meh, i like nature, but it's cruel as hell. the amount of pain and suffering on this planet is staggering. animals getting eaten alive burning to death drying out suffocating dieing of disease and injury by the millions every second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUPhRYi_caY
sometimes i think we should just nuke the entire planet to shits.
>>773464
>nature
>cruel
Nature is nature, blind, unconscious.
But we are conscious and capable of moral action, we are a continuation of evolution, nature become conscious. Thats what I believe in, humanity and what we can become, thats what gives life meaning for me.
Only we can be cruel and only we can be ethical. I believe in 'something more' that we can become. We all need a larger purpose, a bigger context than our egos, why not have that greater meaning be the potential state of humanity and the context be the whole planet/universe.
>>773307
Buddhisms very interesting, heck just ask Nietzsche, its so different from the abrahamic religions that dominate today.
>>760708
St. Hubert is the patron saint of hunters and outdoorsmen. My brother even has an engaving of him on his hunting rifle
Prometheus would tell you the gods are not needed. Use the gift of fire
>>760687
God, in Catholicism, loves and protects everyone.
There are also several Saints who specifically look over travelers.
>>773730
>God, in Catholicism, loves and protects everyone.
What about the choir kids?
>>760687
Odin and Perun, of course.
>>773478
>bigger context than our egos
why tho? i see no reason to search for such a thing. it provides no benefit for one it is also energy you can spend on your betterment.
none, but I'm trying to find my way, spiritually speaking
anyone else /fringe/ here?
>>774486
You won't find it by reading anon.
>>774500
I know that, but where to start? I feel lost. how does a person manage to reject, not only intellectually but also as a permanent lifestyle, desire, modernity and materialism? the map is closed, surveillance is everywhere. we're trapped
Tell me, traveler, have you paid your respects to Talos today?
PERKONS!!!!!
>>773710
Thanks, Prometheus, will do!
>Trust in me, Whiterun!
>Trust in Heimskr! For I am the chosen of Talos!
>I alone have been anointed by the Ninth to spread his holy word!
God, and I try not to bother him with my Trifles, I am sure he has serious matters to attend to.
>>775104
but everyone likes a good trifle anon
>>760708
Kek.
the fact that you pray to Mary and the Saints for literally anything shows that Catholicism is polytheism in disguise.
>pray to St. Hildegard for fertility
>pray to St. Peter to have a safe voyage
>pray to St. Meme to get dubs
>>775138
Adding to this:
Praying to anyone but the Trinity for salvation means you're a heretic.
Salvation is Christ's gift and only when you fully accept it, without feeling the need to repay him, will you receive it.
>>775138
You try to make fun of my faith, but I forgive you anon because you know nothing about it.
>>761492
He is the saint of dragon slaying anon.
>>760687
carnonos, the god of wildlife and hunting
>>761498
oh we used to do fuck with them all the time.
>having bbq with friends
>doorbell.jpg
>those fuckers again
>open the door.
>my brother joins in, grabs my butt
>kisses me on the neck
>"lets get back upstairs, honey."
>they look shocked, turn around and leave.
>we close the door and collapse on the ground laughing.
>>761498
we had this big dog.
a great dane
he was really a lamb minded friendly creature.
but my dad managed to get him to growl and snarl on command.
hilarious.
oh the command was "kill them"
fun fact: jehovas witnesses can jump a wooden yard fence if threatend.
You should all read The Epic of Gilgamesh. For he is the greatest outdoorsman of all time. His companion, enkindu was a man born of wild beasts and nature.
Read the poems of the tablets of ancient Mesopotamia, for it is the oldest story ever shared.
>>774868
Braļi dievturi!
>>774094
No one needs to explain their reason for spiritual or emotional development. I understand where you are coming from anon, realistically though most of us work and have obligations to fulfill so when you're /out/ and about, connecting to something that is whatever is spiritual to you is not a waste of time. What do you want to do manage your accounts on a hike? Time well spent is none of anyone's business. My priorities at least are finishing college and maintaining healthy relationships between friends, family and my gf. I can practice a little spirituality in when I have quiet time and no one need know that. Life always doesn't have to answers, you said astronomy chills you well then you are practicing the same spirituality of connectedness with the universe. No biggie like. Just enjoy it.
Protestant, but I've got family members who still think in animistic or slightly pagan truck. It's what happens when you live near dark woods.
>>771982
that was pretty
>>761498
Tell them you're jewish. It works.
To cast the evil in this world into the Door of Night
>>761498
Offer them alcohol.
>>776182
>Protestant
That's a pretty broad brush
>>760713
you're talking arianism
>>761486
i'd say it wouldn't go regionally, i think it goes by people. if you have danish, german or dutch ancestors for example, the aesir and the vanir will be looking after you. if you're irish on the other hand you'd have to expect help from the Tuatha De Danann.
>>761487
look up ethnocentrism, þeodism or metagenetics.
>>776581
JW's drink alcohol.
>>760687
Don't know what religion this would be, but I "worship" nature and the universe as a whole. I believe everything is connected by some energy or force, kinda like in the avatar movie, but it doesn't all fall back into a big ass tree.
Anyone else here the same?
>>760687
>Ctrl+F
>"Neptune"
>Nothing
I am disappointed, /out/.
No SONS OF NEPTUNE here? Everyone is landlubbers?
But who is as free as the sons of the waves?
>>776852
Pretty much every religion believes this mate.
I understand that you mean this is the whole of your spirituality though so I guess it is closest to Deism.
If you want to LARP about it then some sort of neo-Paganism.
If you believe in God then some form of monotheistic religion.
>>776865
One should perhaps note that it is retconning, but 100% contemporary.
>>776857
I hear you my man, but I personally prefer Carmen and her two siblings, Antevorte and Posteverta, both goddesses of the future and past respectively. Squirrel sacrifice ain't no lamb or cow but hey what can you do.
>>760687
I keep a vegvisir tag on my daypack, just incase like....
>>761458
>MFW Ynys y Cedairn isn't on that map
>>760687
My God is God. The one true God. The light and the way.
>>760687
I'm a filthy heretic. Not quite pantheism, but the word is the closest I can get because of the pan part. A bit of belief in everything, with a nice catholic flavoring, that being why I used the word heretic.
>>772585
Yes, essentially.
>>772717
I think it's Dacians and other Germanic Tribes.
>>773251
The Gods only reach to Midgard. It's the Truth. Only if you're in North America and A native then you can worship a native american god. Same in Europe and Germanic areas.
>>761452
>Savage bitch feeding vegetables to soldiers instead of offering the gazelle.
We sure need some domestication around there.
>believing in a deity, rather than on the natural principles that ARE the gods
We can literally see, feel and MEASURE the gods at all times, and they permeate our very own reality at all times, believing in fairy tales is for tryhards
>>777171
God is a flashlight?
Veles, slavic god of squatting, sunflower seeds and the forest
My one and only.
>>760687
The Legend, the destroyer of cairns and collector of Mora.
>>760731
So the norse in Greenland, Vinland, and arguably Iceland where Atheist by your logic, considering the first two are out side of "Europe" and Iceland wasnt colonized until well after the Norse faith was established
>>776857
NO ONE IS AS FREE
>>771552
Dirty Savage
>>762252
rollan for dolan
>>780233
They weren't atheist. First of all, Iceland was completely uninhabited before (apart from a few monks) and it is close to Norway, so I think the Germanic gods would probably settle there.
North America; the vikings may have tried to worship their gods but they would have failed.
>>780323
>Iceland was completely uninhabited before (apart from a few monks) and it is close to Norway, so I think the Germanic gods would probably settle there.
How is that meaningfully different from the Amerindians getting stamped out?
>>780326
Iceland is pretty close to Europe, a lot closer than America.
You can't destroy a culture yourself and your gods replace theirs. The Injun gods are still there. Many of the injuns got killed violentely, meaning their spirits and gods are angry (most likely.)
>>780332
>You can't destroy a culture yourself and your gods replace theirs. The Injun gods are still there. Many of the injuns got killed violentely, meaning their spirits and gods are angry (most likely.)
As opposed to the god of the monks and the spirits of said monks?
>>760687
>what gods
2016.
believing in an omnipotent invisible being that is going to let you live in a kingdom in the clouds if you behave yourself.
Religion is a crutch for weak people. How about start taking responsibility for yourself?
Odin bless you, anon
If you're on /out/ and not Norse pagan you're doing /out/ wrong
I subscribe to a codex of rules that guide every /out/ing.
>Always go with a buddy
>Never lose sight of your buddy
>Always help your buddy out and ask your buddy for help in return
>Know you and your buddy's strengths and limitations
>If you see something, say something
These are golden rules I follow on every /out/ing and as a result nothing terrible has happened. There's a saying in Russian, "God protects those who protect themselves", and it has an uncanny way of holding true.
>>761474
I read a book series that told the story of Caesars life from childhood to death. It was fictional of course, no full account really exists, but it keeps the major factual events and fills them out with the hypothetical conversations and interactions he must have had.
The books were called the Emperor series by Conn Igulden if you're interested, I recommend then more than oxygen. Fantastic reading. But I digress.
One part that always stood out with me was Caesar justifying his conquest of Gaul to Brutus when old bruté is getting all uppity and left wing.
Something along the lines of "we give them roads, and security and (insert various benefits) and they fight against us so they can sit in a mud hut and scratch their arses."
Then he points out how Roman culture was superior in nearly every way, and (using examples) how the tribe life expectancy was less than half that of those in Roman territory. He was literally bringing them out of the past and into a more modern world where they would live better
Listening to his reasoning, I had to agree. Things got better for everyone after the Romans took over.
>muh culture
Keep your mud hut, Ima go be civilised with Julius.
>>780238
Fuck off reichfag.
>>780399
ebin
st brendan
cunt went on an odyssey teir adventure
saint of navigation and sailing
>>781952
forgot pic
Only acceptable answer
Tapio. The girlfriend still worships the old Finnish gods, so there's always a small sacrifice before hunting, fishing, hiking or camping. Usually I like to placate the machine spirits of anything with moving parts with a prayer to the Omnissiah.
Bumping cool bread
>>760687
Eris and Mithras
>>761491
kek'd
>mfw this whole thread
>>783919
ROMANS GET OUT >:[
>/out doesent know Mielikki. Enjoy angering forest spirits.
>>781692
Sorry savage i'm just a civilized Anglo.
>>760687
Odin is the wanderer
and he is my roll model
>>784388
>civilized anglo
No such thing
>>760687
>>760904
>>760911
>>760930
>>761452
>>761458
>>761474
>>761486
>>761493
>>761495
>>762519
>>763166
>>770051
>>782326
You snowniggers listen now
I'm gonna tell you how
To keep from getting torchered
When the Legion is on the prowl
Stay at yer hut at night
And lock your door up tight
Don't go outside or else you'll find
Those eagle banners flying high
Now I know you won't believe me
So I'm gonna tell you why
The Augusta XVIII
Is gonna get you by and by
I'm warnin' you that when I'm through
You're gonna change your tune
This story's 'bout a snownigger
His name was Adalwülf
He walked into a Horrea
He thought he'd get a bite
He thought that they would serve him
Since they passed the granting rights
The tribune told him no
And that he'd better go
He said, "No si're, my Basileo Valens say
I don't have to go."
So he sat there in that horrea
Bein' stubborn as a mula
No matter what he said
He wouldn't get up off that stool
He sat there like a jackass
Said, "I'm gonna räid und ræpe.
I came in here to eat, and
I ain't leavin' 'til I've ate."
The tribune had enough
He said, "I'll call your bluff."
He said, "If we can't treat you right
We'll have to treat you rough."
The horn was in his hands
He gave him one more chance
He wouldn't go, and so he called
The Augusta XVIII
When he saw them romans comin'
Adal knew it was too late
His eyes popped out his head
And his curly hair got straight
He said, "Oh lousy bronze folks
I didn't mean a thing.
Why did I have to listen
To that gothic rebel king?"
Now snowniggers understand
They tied up both his hands
He was at the mercy of
The Augusta XVIII
I knew just what they'd do
Adalwulf knew it too
I knew what kind of torture
They would put that snownigger through
Now the moral of this story
As plain as it can be
Snowniggers mind your business
And let us roman folks be
You'd better heed my warnin'
And try to understand
Don't you raid and rape
Around the Augusta XVIII
>>760904
God's =! Wights, faggot
Your gods are your gods by blood and tribe.
Wights are regional.
>>761513
The saints are like focal points. It's like a human symbol of a specific issue, so you don't worship the saints but kind of use them as an iconographic and figurative representation of God's influence in that field of events.
>>776852
y'all /out/landers should read Fernando Pessoa's poem "The keeper of sheeps" (although he signed it as Alberto Caeiro). It's a great long poem, ideal to read innawoods:
"I don’t believe in God because I never saw him.
If he wanted me to believe in him,
I have no doubt he would come talk to me
And would walk through my door
Telling me, Here I am!
But if God is the flowers and the trees
And the hills and the sun and the moonlight,
Then I believe in him,
Then I believe him all the time,
And my life is all of it but a prayer and a mass,
And a communion with the eyes and by the ears.
But if God is the trees and the flowers
And the hills and the moonlight and the sun,
Why do I call it God?
I call it flowers and trees and hills and sun and moonlight;
Because, if he made himself, for me to see him
Sun and moonlight and flowers and hills,
If he appears to me as being trees and hills
And moonlight and sun and flowers,
It’s because he wants me to know him
As trees and hills and flowers and moonlight and sun.
And for that I obey him,
(What do I know more about God than God itself?),
I obey him by living, spontaneously,
Like someone who opens its eyes and
sees,
And I call it moonlight and sun and flowers and trees and hills,
And I love him without thinking about him,
And think about him by seeing him and hearing him,
And I walk with him all the time.
just an excerpt. you'll not find an /out/er poem than this.
>>780398
They were christian.
1. I'm not sure that the Christ-god even exists
and
2. Christianity is from what we would call Israel, so the god (if it exists) would have stayed there.
>>780795
Yeah mate, obviously caeser is going to justify his conquest.
Roman culture was not superior. The entire reason why the romans had "superior" culture (baths, aqueducts, works of architecture, large cities, etc) is because the majority of the population were slaves, and did not live in good conditions. The "uncivilised" tribes of Gaul and Germania and the Germanic tribes later on (Norse, Anglo Saxon, etc) all owned slaves, but their slaves had to be given food and sheep and a house and warm clothing.
And the Uncivilised tribes lived to their mid 60's to early 70's. That is the natural age to die. Any longer and people start to shit themselves, get dementia and alzheimers, and lots of other shitty diseases. Any longer than your mid 70's is living too long, and only the incredibly wise and strong elders would live that long in those times.
The Uncivilised tribes lived better than The "civilised" peoples. They did not need good roads (they had hardy animals that did well in mud and rough terrain) they did not need works of architecture (they saw it as offending the gods, and they preferred their homes to be made out of natural materials and their homes were not close together), they did not need security (they practised ritualised warfare, and thus did not raid villages and rape women), and they did not need advanced agriculture (if their crops failed for a season then they could go hunting and foraging, they weren't reliant on agriculture).
The romans did not make their lives better. Also, the Gauls and Germanic tribes didn't live in mud huts, they lived in well built wooden houses with thatched roofs and wood or wattle and daub walls).
>>783919
>justifying romans
>>784397
Pretty funny.
>>784406
The gods are still regional, but to a very large area.
If the gods are your christian idea of a god (omnipotent and controls all over the earth and such) then how do you explain other gods. If you are a Germanic pagan, then do the gallic and celtic gods not exist? And if you are a nordic pagan, then do the Anglo Saxon and continental Germanic gods not exist?
>>780795
>>784685
Also, I reccomend you to read a book called "the real middle earth; Magic and mystery in the Dark ages". It focuses on Anglo Saxon Paganism, but one part of the book writes about how the Anglo Saxons viewed Roman buildings and structures as bad marks on the landscape and upset the Gods, and preferred to live outside of the Roman city walls in the countryside.
>>784688
Deities exist in the soul of the people that begat them and the descendants of the same.
>>784714
and they live in the Area of the people who inhabited them (with some exceptions).
>>784488
that's fedora-tier shit m8.
>belief = not seeing definite proof of existance. thus can't be proven
>thus, God will not prove himself to you, you need to believe
"But if God is the trees and the flowers
And the hills and the moonlight and the sun,
Why do I call it God?"
they are God's creation, not him, that would be pantheism.
>>784721
And they travel with those same people as well.
>>784724
They don't.
