post your hammock + setup
>or
post your dream hammock + setup
<-- my dream hammock with setup
Warbonnet Ridgerunner master race
Hammocks are shit for my needs, but they look so comfy.
>not wanting to shoot rapids while being comfy as fuck
Wew
It was my first time using it and camping overnight. I put a tarp over it and everything worked out. Incline was a bit of a bitch though
>>732326
Put a structural ridgeline on your hammock, it'll make a world of difference.
>Dial in your sag
>Same sag every hang regardless
>Means consistent comfort
>Easy level to see if your hammock is parallel
>Can hang stuff of it (bug net, pouches, clothes)
these are my hammies. DD Jungle hammock (ensconced in the fitted tarps), and alongside is my little canvas milsurp tarp that I use as a bench and bedside stand
>>732431
>milsurp tarp
i mean hammock, not tarp
Whoever gave me advice from the last hammock thread, thanks.
I set up my skeeter beeter pro hammock for the first time yesterday and it was everything I wanted.
My only question is how can folk possibly set up the hammock without buying tree slings to attach to it?
The ropes they provide are tiny as fuck
>>732438
They usually dont, making/buying the ropes for hanging it is the norm. Paracord has worked out nicely for me.
http://alasin.varusteleka.fi/riippumaton-kiinnitysnaru/
Text is in finnish, but the video is self-explanatory.
>>732449
he use only paracords? I use real climbing robe.
I use a simple net hammock for one-day-hikes.
>>732457
>>732449
yeah don;t use paracord, mate. Only rated to 550lb and it stretches.
>>732458
Why do you need a hammock for a 1 day hike ? Can't you just take a nap on the ground ?
+ My hammock. It's really simple, but nice to keep you off the ground
>>732492
Good thing I weigh under 150 then, right?
I'm well aware knots take away from the strength of the rope, but having the weight divided to 4 ropes (2 on each end) makes it good enough for my skinny ass.
>>732495
I like to sit. This is why I take an hammock with me.
>>732500
It's not just the knots, the angles you hang the suspension also affects the strain placed on the lines.
If you're happy then fine, but personally I'm not keen to underestimate the dynamic forces involved in a hammock and at £1 a meter for amsteel I'm quite happy to safeguard my coxis by investing a minimal amount of money in decent suspension.
>>732507
Planning on making a mini canvas hammock as a recliner by the fire. I figure with a CCF pad it'll be the muts nuts.
What sort of insulation you guys use? I'm looking for something more compact than the self inflating pad I have now.
>>732627
i use an underquilt and a sleebin bag. depending how cold-as-tits it's going to be i use any combination of underquilt, 20º bag, fleece bag
>>732627
Depending on the weather I use 1 or 2 CCF pads, and or a down underquilt. I'm the WBRR guy above tho, thinking of switching to an Exped downmat for space saving over CCF pads
>>732458
What kind of hammock is it? Does it fold down to a small size?
I'm looking for a hammock to take with me on day rides on my bike and don't have a rack.
>>732669
it looks like the DD mesh hammock. It bundles up to about the size of a softball
>>732669
you can find them at ebay. china based sellers sell them for below 10$ with world wide shipping.
>>732696
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Heis-Camping-Im-Freien-Hangematte-Garten-Tragbar-Nylon-Netz-Schlafen-Bett-/131761397563
just ordered the wide version of the 11' Dutch hammock, should be here friday can't wait.
So far been camping in an ENO single nest, no tarp or under quilt, just using a lightweight 45º down bag lol.
At 6'4" it hasn't been the ideal solution, but whatever good enough, the hammock was a gift anyway. If I could sleep comfortably enough in a shitty eno though, this dutch hammock should be like heaven.
>>732720
sweet, sounds cumpfy! don't forget to experiment a lot with sag and height and how you lay in it. it takes awhile to really hone-in the best exact setup for a new hammock, and a lot of people seem to get discouraged. for the most part, the more sag the hammock is, the flatter you're able to lay (on the diagonal), but you gotta jeff with it to get it just right for you. i don't like forcing myself into the much of a diagonal, but i dont' sleep like a banana in the middle either... my head is centered and my feet are *just* off center on the diagonal and it requires a pretty specific tension to work. BUT i find it allows me to lay on my side which is cool beans
Hennessey hammock with hex rain fly and 4 season kit.
>>732760
what's the 4-season kit? a waterproof windbreak layer and a foam pad or is there more?
>>732762
that's it. what I should have done was just buy the wind break layer an make my own insulation to suit my needs. The 4 season kit is overpriced and it it really doesn't live up to the clams Hennessey makes unless you use more insulation layers.
>>732438
Don't use ropes to attach to a tree. They can damage the tree and just aren't very secure. No serious hammock user uses them.
Tree straps are where it's at. ENO atlas straps are fine, but kind of heavy. I have a pair and I like them. I also have some durchware cinch buckles. Much lighter and better level of adjustment, but they are a little bit more involved to use. Once you know how to use them, they're just as easy as the Atlas straps.
Lots of people use whoopie slings. They're super light, and relatively easy as well.
>>732500
Sorry man, I know paracord works in a pinch, but its really not ideal whatsoever.
You may weigh 150 lbs, and your paracord may be rated to 550 lbs, but it's not that simple.
You put 150 lbs of force when sitting still. Roll over even a little and you're putting much more force. Add in the angle of your hang, and you can easily put more than 550 lbs of force just from sitting in your hammock.
Also, paracord stretches. A lot. It's impossible to get a proper hang with such stretchy cord. Again, it make work for you, but that's only because you've never done it properly.
Amsteel is superior in every way. Add in some webbing for straps, and thank me later.
Posted before, might as well again.
Yukon Walkabout Rain Fly
Dutchware Hexon 1.6 single layer with structural Ridgeline
DIY Costco down throw UQ and TQ
Atlas Straps
My setup. Took it out for the first time a couple weeks ago at a local state forest. Warbonnet blackbird xlc, snugpak under blanket, thermarest pro lite plus, and my MSS. Got down to about 33 or 35. I was fine on the pad but a little chilly where I came off it.
>>732959
damn niggs i just use my snugpak underquilt and my 20º browning sleebin bag and i'm warmer'n horsecunts in there down to around 20º. in fact, sometimes i have to unzip the bag a little to let some heat out. i'm surprised you were chilly
>>732964
It might not have been hung properly, maybe too much space between the hammock and under blanket. I just looped the long shock cord through the inner loops, tied the ends to some caribiners, clipped it to my suspension and tightened the sides up so it covered my feet and shoulder. The pad could have been too inflated stopping me from properly sagging into it. It was my first time, gotta play with it and find out what works. Best nights sleep while camping though.
>>732971
yeah it takes some trial and error that's for sure. and fuck yeah, hangin's the only way!
cheap net hammock - I use it on day hikes and canoe trips when we haul out to eat lunch. the open netting is nice when it's really hot out cuz it allows air to blow against you, keeping you cool and sweat free.
>>732315
My ideal setup is a Warbonnet hammock with the winter topcover, along with the Superfly tarp. I really like how you can set up the Superfly with hiking poles and be totally enclosed. For those who are fine with going to ground with an open tarp more props to you, but I like my little bubble.
>>732431
How are you liking that Jungle Hammock?
>>732425
Just tie a line between the two caribeaners at the end of the hammock and that's it, or is there a trick to it?
>>733164
Don't need carabiners, dude. Just tie a fixed knot on one end of the hammock, and an adjustable knot on the other end so that you can adjust it till you find your prefered sag, then lock it in with a fixed knot on that end too. Job done.
Just make sure it's static cord and sufficiently rated as it does take a lot of force as a structural ridgeline.
>>732890
If it works for him, he is arguably 'doing it properly' because it works. Different approaches for different situations, anon.
>>734076
It's not a different approach. It's a wrong approach. 550 stretches period. If he's recommending it it juse shows how inexperienced he is and is irresponsible to tell others to use it. Please spend one night in a hammock using paracord as your suspension then come back and tell me how properly it works. It's shit.
My Hennessy Hammock.
>>733011
A regular camping hammock would be lighter, and more comfortable. They are breathable and allow air to flow freely below you. Net hammocks are shit.
>>734614
This x1000
>>734076
Paracord is also weakened by water, a lot.
Just because it "works" right now doesn't mean it works the way it should. There's plenty of people who were happy with their paracord suspension for months until it snapped one day. This is something you cannot prevent. There's a guy on the hammock forums whose para suspension snapped in the middle of the night, he tied it together, and in the same night it broke off again, twice, at different points.
Coccyx fracture is years of hell and you can't even sit right for months. Every thread there's a wise guy who figures it's good enough for him and I can't believe we're saying this still. Don't take the risk.
My hammock spot last week in Zion
I bought this hammock yesterday. Is it gonna be absolutely shit? I'm an absolute novice wid this
amazon traveler hammock
nordpol tarp
i want a better hammock and i hate waking up in the morning feeling like ive got water in my lungs and hard to breath, anyone know why this happens? am i getting too cold at night? is the hammock not breathable enough?
>>734811
It comes with paracord to tie to trees. What are some cheap tree straps? Is there a way to sleep in hammocks with no trees around or is that ludicrous.
>>734642
that was probably a thousand year-old tree anon. when you're a thousand how would you like it
>>734815
more photos from same setup. was visiting some Swedish family but its the best picture i have of my hammock setup
>>734817
i wouldn't give a fuck, and i would feel insulted by shitty apes running around policing each other on my behalf
>>734824
i was just saying
>>734827
yes?
>>734831
>>734835
i dont even know how to respond to this? do you disagree? do you have an opinion? or do you just post picture?
>>734853
Seems like an autist, best not to reply. He'll learn to not be an idiot soon enough.
>>734816
Ludacris? pretty hard to hang without trees but not impossible. You can use a hammock stand, although very few are portable unless you're car camping.
Dutchwaregear, great suspension systems. I use cinch buckles from there. If you want a good set of straps that are ridiculously simple, ENO atlas straps. You'll need some climbing carabiners too with the Atlas straps unless your hammock already comes with some biners.
>>735113
OR while he's at dutchies site he can buy some amsteel for 5 smackers ;)
>>735129
Just got 25 ft of amsteel from there. How hard is it to splice?
Key is finding the right tool to slide through the amsteel. It's basically like a Chinese finger trap rope. You need something stiff enough to slide through the amsteel but male able enough to make a head on it to pull with. I used a the wire from a hanging planter I wasn't using. Think something about the size of a wire coat hanger but a little easier to bend. The wire they hang drop ceilings with would prob work well. Maybe Sauder ing wire or some 8 or 10 gauge solid wire. I've just followed the available videos on YouTube. Good luck!
>>734635
Then replace it often or rig it differently. It *can* be used safely, but it may be more trouble than it's worth.
>>735150
Just been watching some videos about making amsteel 'whoopie slings.' Am I correct in thinking these dont actually go around the tree? They connect to something else?
>>734614
This.
I test all my gear before using it /out. Recently I was curious about the capabilities of paracord, so I used it to hang up a heavy cooking pot for a few days. Developed a small but noticeable stretch overnight. Then it rained on the third day which weakened it a fair bit. It held up overall but I would never use it as a permanent weight bearing solution. It's great for lightweight applications such as ridgelines and tying stuff together but I would never use it to hang a hammock.
>>734815
>feeling like ive got water in my lungs and hard to breath
Go see a doctor, anon, even if you think it has something to do with the hammock. Could be a chest infection exacerbated by the angle that you're lying at.
>>735164
Rigging it differently won't magically make it not stretch. You'd have to replace the paracord every single time which would be a waste of time and money.
Running across the highway *can* be done safely, but you probably wouldn't risk it, yeah?
So I've decided to ditch the tent in favour of a tarp and hammock. Trying to pick one out but I'm a poorfag. What's the difference between a 100 dollarydoo ENO doublerest and pic related?
Kogan usually sells cheap chink shit but in this case I'm wondering if there's really too much that can go wrong in manufacturing a simple hammock as long as it's made from the right material.
Should I pull the trigger on pic related?
>>735278
Length and width of fabric, and material itself, are the factors you wanna consider for a gathered end hammock.
Honestly, for what they are you could spend thirty bucks and buy 10 bucks worth of fabric and 20 on amsteel for whoopies.
>>735290
So what kind of parameters am I looking for? Specs are:
Dimensions 140 x 275cm
Weight 1kg
Material Soft Nylon
Maximum Weight Limit 180kg
>>735200
Yes they connect to tree straps. Generally people will use a marlin spike hitch with toggle, and connect the Whoopie sling to that.
>>735278
That hammock, and ENOs are both not very nice.
ENOs are short, and too wide. You end up laying at a bad angle, with a bunch of extra fabric flapping in your face.
Do yourself a favor and get a better hammock. Fortunately since ENOs are horribly overpriced, better hammocks are often cheaper.
>>735338
Better hammock such as?
I just plucked eno out of the air as an example. My second choice is actually the grand truck ultralight.
>>735345
DD's are pretty good. Got a Frontline myself.
>>735344
Check this out. https://youtu.be/pjr9OI0G4ME
>>735164
>It *can* be used safely
Sure, just not for hanging a hammock.
Can be used, can't be used safely but!
>>735313
Bit small for my liking. I like at least 3m length and 1.5m width (60''). The DIY gathered end I use atm is 3.5m.
>>735382
Yeah if you like shitty suspension and heavy hammocks. Used to have a DD, do NOT rate.
>>735551
>shitty suspension
>DD
what? what's wrong with amsteel and tree straps? i have a deedee and i think it's t'riffic. it's also super light, and modular so the netting and tarps and junk can be taken or left
>>735210
do you really think that would be necessary? its only after waking up in my hammock?
>>735557
>>735345
The grand trunk ultralight is alright. It's small, and stiff. It's cheap which is good, but not the most comfortable. (I have one)
Dutchware hammocks are awesome. Love mine. The Hexon 1.6 fabric is great.
DD hammocks are OK if you're across the pond in the UK. They're based there and have some decent stuff.
If you want a premade mass market hammock and suspension, Wildhorse outfitters has a hammock and straps on Amazon for $50. Good deal, decent hammock for the price.
Warbonnet makes an amazing, but very expensive hammock, the blackbird.
Dream Hammock is a decent company, as is something like Arrowhead Equipment.
I have a Yukon Outfitters Freedom v2 hammock I got for free. Surprisingly good for a cheap hammock. Not as nice as my Dutch, but it's still good.
>>735807
>DD hammocks are OK if you're across the pond in the UK.
i live in MA and my DD hammock was on my doorstep 22 hours after i placed my order with them. they do 1-day FedEx for no additional cost. it's fan-fucking-tastic.
>>734635
>Paracord is also weakened by water, a lot.
No it isn't.
>>732775
what sort of bike is that?
got better pics?
i'm keen to do some bike hammocking this year, pic related
>>735839
also, since posting in a hammock thread.... don't have any pictures but I spent last weekend in a hammock at 12 degrees F, no underquilt. just a therm-a-rest pad and kelty 0 degree bag. was warmer than hell, felt comfy.
I've frozen to death with the 0 degree bag and no therm-a-rest on a 40 degree night, the pad makes a lot of difference.
>>735842
>I've frozen to death
>posting on 4chan
i-is this you now?
https://youtu.be/x0f130MJjKE
>>735813
Yeah, didn't mean it was just good if you're in the UK, I've heard their shipping within the USA is crazy fast. They must have a great US distribution system.
Since they're based in the UK, then buyers in the UK get their gear fast with reasonable shipping.
Unfortunately some of the best hammock companies in the USA have really high shipping to the UK, so DD can be significantly cheaper if you're in the UK as opposed to something like Dutchware or Arrowhead.
>>735842
A pad definitely makes a huge difference. They're an awesome affordable alternative to an under quilt.
An under quilt is nicer, and warmer, but significantly more expensive.
>>735821
[citation needed]
>>735557
Yes. It may indicate a larger problem.
>>734817
I don't think I hurt her dude. Only there for one night. Bark seemed fine
>>735557
Med student here, currently studying respiratory diseases
Yes you should get this checked out. Doesn't matter what's exacerbating it, it is significant.
>>735554
When I bought my DD (years ago now, it was my first hammock) it came with shitty green woven webbing, no amsteel.
The polyester (IIRC) they use for the hammock itself is heavy denier and not nice on the skin.
Also they're a bit small at 2.7m
>hammock
Enjoy a cold, wet, uncomfortable sleep filled with mosquitos.
>>736089
>Cold
Buy a good sleeping bag ffs
>Wet
Buy a good tarp ffs
>Uncomfortable
lol wat
>fillet with mosquitos
Most hammock have a bug net bro
>>736071
Whelp I bought mine at xmas 2013 and it came with proper treestraps, karabiners, and the slings are amsteel whoopie slings. also it's nylong and lighter'n fishcunts
from what i've seen it looks like what they're selling is even lighter than my version
>>736089
All these issues are the same with tents. Proper gear solves all these problems
>>736169
You aren't being pulled by anything
You can buy bugnets for any hammock.
Tents offer zero insulation.
You can put full length foam or air mattresses in hammocks, as well as under quilts and top quilts if needed.
You clearly only have experience with tents, and poor ones at that. Please leave the discussions to the adults and go back to the children's table.
>>736056
Nigga you never heard of polypropylene straps?
Guess not.
>>736169
What the fuck kind of hammock are you "caught up in the folds"?
And yes, that "taught fabric" is so much harder than the ground, amirite?
>>736568
I think anon is using the Grand Troll Ultralight
So I'm this fag:
>>735278
Ended up buying one of pic related from http://altitudefx.com.au/
Was going to go with a DD camping hammock, but it would have cost twice the normal price when you factor in shipping, plus it would have taken weeks to get here (aus).
I'm going /out/ tomorrow night to try it out properly and I'll report back then.
But this afternoon I went to the park to check it out and hang it up for the first time I ended up chilling in it for an hour when I only meant to go for a few minutes, that's how fucking comfy that thing was.
I gotta tell you, you guys fucking got me and now I'm hooked. Especially after going /out/ recently and sleeping on a fucking yoga mat, this shit was more comfy than my bed at home.
>>738641
DD includes one-day shipping IN THE SALE PRICE for no additional cost, you yuck.
BUT anyway, the hammy you got looks nice and has all the essentials included. guy line and bugnet can be made or purchased for cheep in the future. do your research into tension and sleeping angle and all that stuff so you know how to get as comfy as possible.
congrats on not being a ground-dwelling pleb!
>>738645
>DD includes one-day shipping IN THE SALE PRICE for no additional cost, you yuck.
See pic related, dick
Are underblankets worth it?
I could get dd underblanket for 40$.
Should I?
Some killer setups here,
My question, does the lack of stitutional awareness,with the tarp, bother you ?
Prob the only reason im iffy
>>732438
Buy flat strap from a fabric store
>>734629
Looks like a bag of gone off oranges
>>738651
oh. well they changed that i guess. sorry friend
https://youtu.be/W647gDp-u-s
>>739074
>stitutional awareness
Are you worried about ninjas sneaking up on you?
When you're in a tent you're in a nylon cocoon and it's the manufacturer that gets to dictate your environment. With a hammock and tarp you can change it almost infinitely to suit your particular needs.
Want more vista? Stake the tarp out wider or remove it altogether. Cold? Stake it in closer. Want more head room? Raise the ridge line. And when you're in a bad storm you can hunker it right down and close up the ends. It's pretty sweet, anon.
That feel when there aren't 2 trees close enough around the house. Little improvised hang...
I like to stay hidden while camping.
2 year old pic. new improvements is that I mixed the camonet and canvas, so that the canvas is not so obvious from a distance.
The picture at the bottom is a white bug net sprayed with leaves and such as stencil.
>>741245
i gotta pick up some that camo netting stuff. shit's expensive as horsecocks though, plus it's no good for hiking with which is how i do about half my camping
>>738670
They're more commonly called underquilts.
And YES they are the definitive answer to insulation in a hammock, and worth the money for sure. $40 is a good price. The DD is about the same as the snugpak underblanket, I have a snugpak and like it a lot.
>>732760
same set up bro. i love mine.
>>736183
> tents have no insulation
> but you can *add* insulation to hammocks
without a hint of irony
>>735839
Lotus eclair. Its a touring bike from 1972, but I've upgraded everything.
>>741245
I was initially going to give you shit for carrying camo netting but in the middle photo it looks like it does actually help disguise your tarp.
I don't know if I'd bother with it unless I was somewhere I *really* didn't want to be seen though.
Need some recommendations ona nice hammock, looked through this thread, DD caught my eye as I am from England, willing to buy internationally though, price isn't really an issue.
Want something quite light.
Do I want a single or a double? I figure a double will be more comfy, byt heavier?
Also need nice straps.
Thanks.
>>745762
Forgot to mention, my friend has some eno atlas straps, they seem good, opinions?
>>745762
apparently DD's shit has been a bit crap lately, mine's okay mind (maybe 18 months old), as for weight I cannot recommend the travel bivi/hammock but the superlight looks pretty good
>>745764
Thanks. Might stay away from them then haha, weight isn't a massive issue, but I will be carrying it whike hiking, so don't want it too heavy
>>745768
I personally hate whoopie slings so using webbing loop 'ladders' are my preferred set up, if you go with the DD set up a ridgeline and plan out how you are going to set up the hammock before you go, then leave the hammock almost set up, it makes the work on site far faster.
>>745762
get double if you are a big guy
if you aren't get single
i'm not a big guy and i find the excess on a hammock annoying
Tentfag here who doesn't know any better. I've been curious about hammocks for a while now, but the things that hold up me are wind and mosquitoes.
Is there a way to eliminate these problems, or can you only mitigate them?
I love the idea of a hammock, but the wind whipping right past my face and getting eaten by skeeters are both huge no-go's for me
>>746352
Tarp and bug net. Easy fix.
Dozens of different bug nets out there. Some built into the hammock, some half nets, some full nets, lots of options.
If you want more wind protection a hammock sock completely encloses the hanmock.
I live in CO. Hammocking in the mountains is often too cold, especially at elevation. In the summer I'll go out with my Eno, or Hennesy Hammock. Fall, Winter, it's just too cold. I've tried to wrangle in a sleeping pad in there with me, but it's usually uncomfortable and slides out in the night.
Never used an underquilt, but I hear they can be good for this. Anybody used them? Thoughts?
>>746353
Is carrying all of that stuff still less cumbersome than a tent? Weight doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't mind some extra space in my pack
>>732454
I'm not a fan of climbing robes, the fuzzy belt always gets in the way of the foot holds.
>>732627
>>741252
>>742881
>>746372
Cocoon. If you put the sleeping bag on the outside of the hammock, the insulation doesn't get compressed and you don't need a pad or underquilt.
>>734816
>Hang without trees?
If you still have access to ridge poles.
Lash three short poles (a foot or so longer than your hang height) to each end of a tension pole that's as long as your hammock's hang length. Hang your hammock off the ends of the tension pole. So, you basically hang under a single horizontal pole, supported by two tripods at either end. Of course, either end can also just be a single tree, too.
>>735278
>>745762
I'm actually really happy with the $20 hammock I bought at Wal-Mart, and I rarely like anything Wal-Mart sells. Its currently sewn into previously mentioned cocoon, and was the envy of my last winter trip. In all fairness though, I've also modified the cables, replaced the rings and built hammock straps, so it's hardly standard.
>>739074
Unless it's going to rain or snow, why would you put up a tarp? That's one of the best things about not being in a tent! You get to be suspended in open nature.
>>746352
Wind won't be any worse than in a tent, depending on your tarp size and material and how you tie it. You can throw a mosquito net over your ridgeline, I've seen simple homemade ones, that have pockets in the corners to hold stones so they stay in place, sourced on site of course. Eating garlic repels mosquitoes and ticks, and tastes better than DEET.
>>746373
Depends on the setup, but usually, yes.
My hammock and straps fit in the stuff sack with my sleeping bag, no noticeable weight there, and the only other things I need are a ridgeline, which is about 15' of 550 paracord and a tyvek ponchotarp, which is also my rain gear. Excluding the weight of the sleeping bag, maybe 2lbs total.
>>738670
Where the hell can you get one for $40?
>>746404
Thanks, anon. I think I'm gonna give this a go. Ill let you all know how it goes
>>746415
second hand
>>746415
You can make them for about 15 bucks, no sewing for a gathered end hammock. Do you even google?
>>746373
No, less cumbersome. Especially when you don't have to carry tent poles.
I swapped my tent for a hammock, straps, bug net and tarp. They compress down to be a smaller total size than the tent and they weigh less.
I bought an Auscam Hoochie style tarp as well, so if there's no trees I can use it as a bivy bag or a makeshift tent. Literally just came back from being /out and it was the best sleep I've had in years.
I was skeptical before I bought my hammock recently but I definitely would recommend/10.
>>747216
*I mean, yes it's definitely less cumbersome.
>>732307
Clark CAMO NX-270
Warbonnet Superfly
Grand Canyon Fairbanks 190
Thermarest Ridgerest SOLite regular
Never had any problems with the Clark, it's very roomy and comfortable, has lots of storage space underneath in the pockets and holds up just fine. Does that justify the total price of around 500€ (including import fees)? Surely not for everyone, I wanted the best I could get and was willing to pay for it, so I can't complain.
The Superfly is quite huge, but I decided on it for the flaps that you can close in winter time. That cancels out a lot of wind related issues with hammocks, like convection giving you a cold ass. I can also put it up so other people can sleep underneath it, which is nice, as you don't need more than one tarp that way.
The sleeping bag is a cheap one that packs okay, but is warm enough for my standards. I may get a better one some day, but so far this one has held up quite well, no problems with the zipper (as reported by friends having the same one) or any seams getting loose. Good bang for the buck, just paid 30€.
The insulation pad is awesome, it reflects a lot of warmth back at you and comes in olive or blue backside (depending on which one you get, the blue is a bit thicker but that doesn't make much of a difference in my experience). It's also cheap, but of course the packing volume does not compete with an air mattress. Still, I like having it for winter season especially, because that's where you will be glad you took it most.
>>742917
Also, love me some bike-hammocking. This was more of a "transportation run" than a real camping trip. But it was fun nonetheless.
>>747389
What's the thing on the lower part of the front fender?
>>747391
The black rubber flap? Good question, I had to google it myself. Naturally, it seems like an extension, but for what purpose? Looks like it is a splash protector so when it's wet all the shit does not fly in your direction/at your feet.
>>746373
It's less space for summer camping, winter camping can be just as, or more, bulky than tent camping.
They're relatively similar though. Tarp+hammock+suspension is pretty close to a good backpacking tent in size if you're using trekking poles instead of tent poles.
>>746373
Some people, especially those using the Hennesy snake skin, can just attach their hammock outside the pack, especially when wet.
>>747393
OK yes I see now, thought it was on the front of the fender, but I see now it's at the back, where its could protect from splashes n shit.
>>747399
Yeah, the front wheel is turned away from the camera towards the wall. The positioning of the fender also is so that it's lower at the back, here "front". Interestingly, you can also see the low pressure on my wheels in that image, which I used to ride around with. I can tell you it was quite exhausting, though I pumped them up regularly. Now I got some new tires and it's a charm to ride with them. Everything is so much easier, I feel quite stupid for not replacing those earlier lol.
>>747389
Your bike looks like some kind of retro refurbished east german cold war courier bike.
>>747409
Almost. My grandfather built it himself.
>>747411
Where are you from?
>>747412
Germany.
>>747414
Eastern part?
>>747416
Nope, northern. I dunno what parts or schematic (if any) he used though, so it may be the same kind of style, yes.
>>747416
>Eastern part?
2/10
>>747423
Germany is, socially and economically, still divided in West and East. So it's not a bait question to ask.
>>747425
Dunkel Deutschland
>>747425
Must be a Murrican, they don't have maps there.
>>747432
Nah, it could also be that he was referring to the national division in Westdeutschland (BRD) and Ostdeutschland (DDR). That does not exist anymore, but in many ways there still is the west and the east here.
no pics at the moment, but i do own a hammock bliss no see em no more which has damn near made me swear off sleeping on the ground. Also has anyone here ever used a hammock stand of any kind? I'd like to get a semi portable one i could lug around for car camping, beach or just to lounge around in my backyard. I was actually saving up to buy a Hammeck one but they're going out of business and sold out on all their stands.
>>747823
>damn near made me swear off sleeping on the ground.
noice! i don't have any suggestions for a stand but just wanted to say it always makes me happy to read this. congrats on not being a groundplebbing ground-dwelling pleb.
>>732775
Where was this?
>>747864
not him but looks like the kinda place you're not sposta just drop a fire on the ground wherever the jeff you please
Noob here, I wanna get a Grand Trunk Ultralight hammock
It costs £20 and weighs 350g.
Any thoughts?
Does anyone have a suggestion for a hammock that would accomodate my dog with me. She's under 50lbs but I'm worried about her nails ripping the fabric on most commercial hammocks.
>>747927
The fabric has very little stretch, which is nice if you like a firmer lay.
It's cheap enough ($13 US) and relatively light.
Downsides is that it's short and narrow. It's fine if you're smaller framed, and a good starter hammock.
I used mine one trip and upgraded.
>>747959
You could get a double layer hammock with a ripstop fabric. Would be more durable. Something like a double layer hexon 2.4 from dutchware. It would be a relatively heavy hammock, but would be durable.
>>747972
The rub is that I need a full noseeum net since the whole reason I'm considering a hammock is because I'm moving to Florida and want a shelter that will protect me and my pup from bugs and not require dry ground.
>>747968
What was your choice of upgrade?
Also what is a good length I should be looking for, I'm a tall guy 6ft 2 inch.
>>732760
Ayyy, Hennessy crew reporting in. I don't have pics, but it's the Ultralite Asym. How you likin yours?
>>747823
I'd say making one is the best option. You can find plans on ultimatehang. The ones you can buy are usually huge and expensive for what they are.
>>747875
>not sposta just drop a fire on the ground
If you follow the law / guidelines that's 99% of everywhere. Seems like a reasonable location, looks alright to me.
>>743016
Yeah I know. I don't usually use that camonet while hiking, it takes too much space.
Need a hammock fellas. Recommendations?
I'm 6ft 2. Looking at some hennesseys. Not sure which one is the best. Really don't know much about hammocks. Will be using it in all sorts of weather.
Price isn't too much of an issue. Something light is preferable.
Thanks.
>>745771
What do you hate about whoopie slings?
>>748381
There's not alot to know about the hammock themselves. The big factor you need to consider as a tallbro is a longer hammock being much more comfy. I'm 6'2 and got a regular hammock, now am already wishing I bought an 11'
Get a dutchwear 11' hammock and try it out. buy bug net, tarp, underquilt and upgrade suspension later. No need to do it all at once
>>748415
11ft? Damn. That's huge. I was thinking like a 7-8ft one.
>>748420
I always tell people that if you're over 6' then you'll want a 3m hammock
>>748420
Also, an extra foot of fabric at either end is definitely not enough. It doesn't really work like that; you have to lie in one and see how the fabric drapes and gathers to understand. Go somewhere that you can lie in one and try it out and you'll see what I mean.
Anynone whos got a jerven fjellduk? I hear its extremly good quality and very insulating. Fucking expensive here in Sweden though, not sure i want to cough up that amount of money.
>>748450
Parachute nylon. I can't answer your other question without knowing which ones you're looking at.
>>747959
I don't recommend that. Even double hammocks have two separate sections, hammocks are not made for people (including dogs and other family members) to join up in and snuggle. You may try it, but don't be disappointed if it does not work.
>>747981
Clark hammocks are quite roomy thanks to the stakes bending the mesh.
>>748779
I get what you're saying, but my dog already shares my sleeping bag, I doubt a hammock would be worse.
>>748779
it would probably be different if we were at all overweight or weren't so damned comfortable toegether, but me and my girlfriend sleep/nap/fuck/hang out in hammocks (eno double) every few weeks and it is amazing. no complaints. extremely comfortable.
you're pressed up against each other so if you have any issues with physical contact or whatever than you don't want to share a hammock with somebody
>>749059
do you hold your dog tight against your body and cuddle it like it's -60 degrees outside?
because a hammock forces you to do that
hey, if you and your dog are both comfortable, fucking go for it man
>>749059
You have your dog inside your sleeping bag... dude wtf
>>749097
She gets cold easily, what can I say.
>>749108
Bet you warm 'er up real good you disgusting prick
So been looking at dutchware's 11" hammock and I have some questions.
There are a lot of options for different fabrics? Hexon 1.0/1.6/2.4
Argon 1.6 etc
Nylond etc
Also HexonW. Don't know anything about this fabric.
What would you recommend. I like the sound of the hexon, but not sure what weight. Not sure if the 1.0 is enough or if I should get the 1.6.
Also, you can get a second layer of fabric. What's the point of this? Is it worth it?
Lastly, is the 11" netless the best, or should I consider the 10.5 half-wit? Not too sure about the differences. And I think I'd need the extra .5".
>>738645
>ground-dwelling pleb
we need a condescending shorthand for this
>>749258
Floorfag
>>749228
Or the dd superlight? Not as long as the dutchware. Would this be a problem. Plus, since I'm from the UK it will be easier for me.
What do you think?
>>749258
i've been using it interchangeably with "groundplebbing"
>>748000
I upgraded to a 1.6 hexon 11ft from Dutchware.
At your height, get an 11 foot hammock.
>>748450
You may be looking at the half-half-way hammock (10.5 ft), and a regular 11 foot hammock.
The half wit has an integrated half bug net. If you contact Dutchware he will make it 11 feet for you.
Lots of fabrics, hard to decide really.I have a Hexon 1.6, it's stong, light, and soft with a medium stretch.
The argon is very similar, slightly different ripstop pattern. Would be hard to tell the difference between it and hexon unless side by side.
The nylonD is stiffer, with less stretch. It has more of a typical nylon feel (think of a nylon jacket).
I know nothing about the dobby fabric.
>>749228
The HexonW is just a wider hammock made of Hexon.
A double layer will have less stretch, and has a spot you can slip a sleeping pad in between then layers. If you use a pad, it's worth it.
Like I commented in my pst just above, Dutch will make you an 11ft half wit if you want. He'll customize anything you want. I had him do a black hammock with green stitching, it's pretty cool.
Dumb question.
Instead of having a separate rainfly, why not just make the hammock like a sleeping bag, but covered in gore tex on the top side?
i think having the option to sleep out in the open under the stars or to enjoy the afternoon sun is a big part of the hammock appeal. also having removable modules that you can take or leave, such as with my DD hammock, is really convenient (bugnet and tarp)
>>732964
>>749689
They already exist. Look up jungle hammocks.
Personally I don't have one because I like the modular nature of a separate setup, which is one of the reasons I moved into hammocks instead of tents. I can modify it endlessly based on current conditions. Jungle hammocks look pretty cosy but you're locked in to the setup that the manufacturer gives you.
Two questions: 1. I have an ENO single person hammock, and was wondering if it could support my gf and I at a collective 310 lbs.
2. I was looking at the Hennesy deep jungle XL whole shebangs setup on amazon and was wondering if, despite it saying its limit is 300, if it could support the two of us.
Also, is that latter hammock a good option?
>>749977
my jungle hammock has removeable everything
>>750292
are you implying your gf weighs 20lbs
>>750299
I'm 185 she's 125
I am new to hammocking. My set-up is the Eno Sub7 and Atlas straps. I have this fear that I will set up my hammock so that all the blood goes to my ass while I sleep and this will fuck up my legs. Is this a valid concern? How do I stop it if it is? Will a ridgeline work with my setup? IS 550 cord good for a ridgeline?
>>750299
>>750467
use something otherr than paracord for a ridgeline, honestly though the worst that will happen if your arse gets too low is that you will touch the ground.
>>732326
looks like you woke up with a headache bro
>>750474
>use something otherr than paracord for a ridgeline
Suggestions? Does the ridgeline actually bear weight or is it just there to measure the length?
>>749228
>different fabrics
google hammock forums. The differences between fabrics have been discussed a lot. Honestly it won't make a world of difference. which one you get, so don't stress.
>Not sure if the 1.0 is enough
The number means ounces per square yard.
The half-wit product page shows weight limits.
Weight limit of the hexon 1.0 is 250lbs. Get the 1.6 if you're fat.
>second layer of fabric. What's the point of this?
The only point is if you want to use your hammock with a sleeping pad. The consensus is that doing this is "alright", but eventually you'll want an underquilt anyway and ditch the pad for mega comfort.
I wouldn't bother with double layer as it's extra weight/cost, both of which are better allocated to an underquilt
>Lastly, is the 11" netless the best, or should I consider the 10.5 half-wit?
Never used the half-wit but I dont like the idea of it. Saves you a bit of weight, but you need to be cocooned in a sleeping bag to protect your lower half from bugs. Wouldn't work for me in summer...
Dutch sells the "fronkey style bugnet" or you can easily and cheaply make your own.
>And I think I'd need the extra .5"
The longer the better.
>>750700
Thank you so much. It's looking like I'll get a single layer hexon 1.0 then.
Also. The straps that dutch uses, what is the main difference between cinch and whoopie straps? And what would you recommend for a beginner?
I usually use a groundsheet (400g) a thermarest prolite+ (700g), a cheap and old (20 years) mckinley bivi, which at this point only protects against wind and light spray (400g), a artificial fiber sleeping bag (900g) and a poncho tarp.
I don't like that the bivi is so tight that i can't take the thermarest inside.
A new bivi should be bigger and also replace my groundsheet, but they are pricey and heavy.
So, could a DD travel bivi solve that and also be a hammock if there are trees? Are they gud? Any experience?
>>735382
The frontline is the travel bivi but in breathable, right? Do i need to buy anything else except the hammock itself to give it a test?
>>736274
Die, namefagscum, die.
>>750293
What brand?
>>750467
>all the blood goes to my ass while I sleep and this will fuck up my legs. Is this a valid concern?
Kek, no. Worst thing that happens is that you get Cold Butt Syndrome.
>>750500
>How into ridgeline
The ridgeline maintains the level of taughtness in the hammock regardless of how the tree straps are hung so that no matter how you hang the hammock you get a consistent amount of sag which optimises comfort. It's a 'set and forget' type of thing. Lemme tell ya, once you dial in that perfect tension it's golden and you will have the best sleep of your life.
You're not s'posed to use paracord as it will stretch over time. Most people use a type of cord called 'Amsteel' which doesn't stretch. It's not a big deal however if you don't want to spend extra money, you can always just tighten the paracord when it gets loose.
>>750832
Actually some people suffer from the hyper extension of their knees.
I get sore shoulder if the setup is poor from compression on my shoulders. But that's because I have an issue with my shoulder blade that is easily exacerbated (which is why I sleep in a bridge hammock now)
Question time anons,
What is the CHEAPEST UK/EU sourced fabric for a hammock. Found unlined nylon ripstop at £3.50/m anyone know anything better?
I'm DIYing half a dozen hammocks for a group camp (yes I'm nice) but trying to keep costs as low as possible.
>>750843
Yes, but it has nothing to do with blood going to your butt, just the angle of your legs, and that's easily fixed.
>>750862
Yeah but I was just addressing general issues related to sleeping in a hammock, not related to blood flow 'to the ass' which is just retarded.
>>750828
DD
>>750879
Since when was DD bug net completely removable ?
Cinch buckles or whoopie slings?
>>750885
as far as i know always. it unzips on both sides all the way around. you can zip it off or on whenever you want. if you want to use the support arches (for the tarp, for example) you need to have the bugnet on though because they mount into it. but otherwise you can leave the ribs, netting, and tarp all behind if you want and just bring the hammy
Just ordered a dutchware 11" hexon 1.0 hammock with cinch buckles, ridgeline and knotty mod. Now to find a tarp.
>>734629
the human ham
>>751085
off-topic but I wish all ham was human
>>751085
>File: humanwaffle_thumb.jpg (51 KB, 504x378)
the netting make your skin super sensible. I slightly touched a girl while she sat on my net hammock: her face went like w-t-f
I need a tarp for my dutchware 11" hammock. Thinking about something from warbonnet, hennessey or maybe dd. Don't want to spend more than $150, and it needs to be fairly light with good coverage.
Any recommendations?
>>751574
Also. What length of tarp would I need for an 11ft hammock? What would the hang length be?
>>750806
Not really a bivi but yeah, the Frontline is the version of the Travel hammock with breathable fabric. I opted for the Frontline because I figured it would be more confortable in hot summer temps. While true, I sometimes think the waterproof Travel could be a better fit overall because I set it on the ground quite a lot when there's no trees to take advantage of the full bugnet, though I never had any trouble. Other than this I have zero regrets and I think they're fantastic for the price.
Pic related, tea and a snooze under the afternoon rain.
>>750806
Also no, you don't need anything else. The suspension webbing is basic but what's supplied is plenty good enough. Actually I never changed it, suits me just fine.
Anyone here have a Warbonnet Mamajamba? Is it big enough for an 11ft hammock? And do I need to seam seal it?
Taking my poorfag Yukon outfitters setup to Wayne national forest this weekend. Gonna brave that rain
>>751763
whelp as long as you set your tarp up real güd that's gonna be awesomely comfy
>>732431
I have that same backpack.
>>750780
No problem.
Regarding whoopies. I'm a beginner too and everyone said they were
> lightest
> packed smallest
> most adjustable
> super quick to set up
I still didn't understand how they worked, but bought a set of whoopie slings anyway.
After fiddling with them for about five minutes I had it all figured out. The above points were all accurate. Go straight for whoopies IMO.
>>751016
Ooops, seems like you're the same guy. Don't worry about what I wrote above, but you may upgrade to whoopies at some point. The weight savings aren't significant so whatever.
Besides, I'm pretty new to this shit but already planning a second hammock to lend to friend etc
Enjoy, post results, etc
>>751574
>>751586
>>751691
I'm using the cheap as fuck yukon walkabout ($16 on a woot sale) and it's big enough. Haven't been in a bad rainstorm though so cant say for sure.
If you've got the money, I'd go straight for the Mamajamba. Probably packs down smaller and lighter than my tiny yukon fly. I like that it has centre tie-outs which mean you can make it super spacious. You can also add the door kit later if you really want.
>>732315
Where is that anon? It looks amazing
>>752979
I ended up getting the superfly. Can't wait to use it.
Have had an eno doublenest for a while but only used it for leisure and I'm more interested in camping with it and ditching the tent. I know a rainfly is probably the first thing on my list but what else is important? before I've slept inside a sleeping bag and placed a camping pad inside the hammock under me for insulation and it was okay.
I live in summit county colorado and am mainly going to be camping in dryer climates this summer, Moab being a big one. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
My cocoon with GI poncho/tarp and home-made hammock straps.
I've an ENO double nest for me and the wife to chillax in.
Considering getting a second eno though for just me. Single nest, obv. What kind of set up should I get for it? I was infantry in the Army and realized after camping with some friends that I don't like sleeping inside of tents or anything after sleeping under the stars for so many years in the army. Figured it was hammock time.
Help me out, /out/.
>>755267
Dude don't just leave your sawyer on the ground, ya gotta put it in your sleeping bag so it doesn't freeze
>>755580
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>>755851
>Coverage
After three solid days of rain my gear was little more than damp with this setup. But yes, had there been more than a fine mist it could have presented a problem. This is my winter setup, however, and is really more for shedding snow than rain anyway.
