>he kills animals for sport
Killing deer is good for all other animals in an ecosystem, except predators
Stupid troll
>>720821
>killing bucks and mounting their heads up a wall does deer a favour
>hunters actually believe this
>>720828
>implying everything else was wasted
>>720828
It's good for them because they would overpopulate otherwise, which would cause them to eat all of the plants, which wrecks the ecosystem, and ends up starving the deer, and other species.
>>720816
>for sport
>not just for fun
Idk about you, but I like to remind myself that I'm on top of the food chain.
>>720828
>good for the deer
I said good for the other animals
>troll confirmed
You suck at this, bye
>>720835
>buys over 2000 dollars worth of gear
>drives a truck for 3+ hours to get to destination
>walks less than 30 minutes
>shoots animal with projectile going almost 3000 km/hr
>thinks he is a part of the food chain
Guys I'm a apex predator guys guys
If you don't like hunting and fishing then you don't belong on /out/ and need to go back to /an/
>>720843
>$2000 worth of gear
Look at this casual over here...
Now take all that gear into your local shopping mall or high school and you will really feel line you're on top of the food chain.
>>720816
Hunting for sport is fun and good for the ecosystem
>>720816
I'm not a big hunter but I get this kind of thing every now and then. There's one word to explain it.
>Stewardship
If you're such a moonfuck treefag that you don't even agree with population control, then you're a hypocrite.
>>720816
been lurking for awhile and that is definitely my least favorite thing about this board. overall I enjoy the people and discussions but seeing the hunting threads bums me out. I know tons of people will jump down my throat with the "muh top of the food chain muh ecosystem balancer" shit but I dont care, I love animals and it's lame that people are proud when the murder them. I can understand fishing but any game larger than that just seems cruel to me...
>>720931
Do you eat commercially farmed meat? Beef, pork, chicken, turkey, etc?
>>720835
yeah dude you're REALLY tough with your gun and hunting gear. I hope one day when you're hunting a bear slashes your throat (^:
>>720931
You don't understand the definition of murder and think with emotion over reason. You are literally the stereotype of what is wrong with this country. You millennials are going to bring the US to it's knees during your generation and it will be like the ancient Roman empire part two.
>>720843
/thread
>>720933
nope
I really don't care what people do unless they are trying to force me to do what they do. Wish more people would subscribe to this philosphy. Instead people must bitch, bitch, bitch, cry, and then bitch some more.
>>720934
Why shouldn't a human use all resources available to him when hunting? You don't see lions or other big cats hold off on using their claws and powerful jaws to kill other animals do you? A human's strength, speed, and athletic ability pales in comparison to almost any medium sized game animal, the only advantage a human has over those animals is his intelligence and ability to create tools that give him an advantage. Making fun of a human for killing an animal with a gun is like making fun of a cheetah for running a gazelle down with its superior speed, or belittling the pack hunting tactics of wolves because it's "not fair".
Predator vs Prey interactions aren't supposed to be fair, the predator always has some sort of natural advantage over the prey.
>>720945
Millennials cannot comprehend live and let live. They must force their opinions and beliefs on to others, or at the very least make it look uncool to not follow the popular opinion. We have a communist society. People literally get beat to death for being religious because atheism is so cool, people get bullied for not buying X makeup or wearing Y clothing. It's a fucked up world.
>>720843
People like you are so delusional it's scary. You want hunters to use primitive weapons such as a bow to make things "fair" for the deer. At the same time you want them killed humanely and quickly. You can't have both. Throughout history man constantly has made more effective and efficient ways of killing. From the atlatl to centerline rifles. Let's just give up our smartphones and tablets here in civilized countries to make it "fair" for the third world countries to catch up.
>>720816
In my state it is illegal to "waste game". This means that you must harvest AT LEAST both front shoulders, both back legs/hams, and the backstraps off of any game animal that you kill. You can't just cut the head off and leave the rest to rot. Even if you don't plan on eating the meat yourself you must take it and have it processed or give it to someone else who wants it.
Sure, I've got a few deer and boar heads hanging on my walls and fireplace mantle, but I also keep a freezer full of game meat and eat venison or wild pig at least 2 times a week.
>>720951
I don't know where you live but I would gladly move there if religious people are being beat my atheists. You can't compare hunting with religion. If you were thrown into the wild you couldn't survive without hunting, but you could survive without religion.
>>720951
I would love to live in a place where being religious isn't cool. Where is this magical place? You can't compare hunting to religion. If you throw someone into the wilds indefinitely thru couldn't survive without hunting, where they could survive without religion.
>>720931
>"I love animals"
As in, you would euthanise one if you found it injured and struggling in the wild, or you do you mean
>"I wuv animuws"
Whereby you anthropomorphise them because they look fuzzy wuzzy and cute, and you just can't bear the idea of anyone being "mean" to them?
What do you think is less cruel? An animal that lives free in the wild until its instant death, or an animal farmed in cages and fed steroids until its live slaughter by electrocution?
How do you justify this "fish is ok but not anything bigger" idea? On what logical basis did you construct that argument? Note that I said logical, and not emotional.
>>720843
>Firearms
>Vehicles
>Being able as a species to construct these things
>Ipso facto we *are* the apex preditors, dipshit
>>720969
I've never seen a "hunting is cruel" person have the same opinion about fishing. Apparently killing a deer instantly is cruel but allowing a fish to suffocate while you take your selfies with it is fine.
>>720945
Fuckin this, man. I don't care if you eat lentils or blood from a live chicken, just don't be an obnoxious cunt and try and push your shit on others.
>>720947
the difference between all the examples you just outlined and using a gun is that you as the individual was not born with the skill and know-how on how to construct a gun. Those animals are born with that equipment and instinct, but you're relying on a factory assembly line and years of advanced engineering. You can be the biggest fucking idiot and be horribly out of shape and fucking waste a massive buck or even a lion for that matter. Are you a superior predator for being able to do that? No, you're an asshole with money. If you're going to hunt, make it fair, wouldn't that make it an actual 'sport'? Go make yourself a bow and arrows and then I could see that as an actual well deserved advantage. That's just my opinion though (:
Ik sharing that on the internet won't change anyone's minds but don't go around thinking you're a big bad predator. You just have resources to go out and BUY stuff.
>>720971
I once had an argument with someone whose line of logic was (and I shit you not) "It's immoral to kill animals when you can get the meat at the supermarket".
Infinite levels of retardation.
>>720969
the first one. I'm not a retarded person.
But also I'm fine with fishing because fish literally don't have complex enough brains to experience pain. If it's painless I'm fine with it, nothing is suffering from me eating them?
>>720973
So what if it's not a fair fight. Literally how does that matter. Is it a fair fight when you go fishing? Is it a fair fight when animals are farmed? What the fuck world do you live in that everything has to be "fair"?!
>>720976
>fish literally don't have complex enough brains to experience pain
>I'm not a retarded person
Yes, yes you are kek.
Go on, quote us a source on that assertion kek
>>720973
Alright, I'll go machine a smoothbore musket in my shop, and cast my own lead balls to shoot out of it, would that be better? It would be much more difficult for me to construct a traditional bow than it would be for me to construct a rudimentary firearm.
>>720977
this is a valid point. I just don't consider it correct for dudes to be walking around like "FUCK YEAH TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN I AM THE ULTIMATE PREDATOR HERE HOLD MY BEER SO I CAN POSE WITH THIS BUCK". That shit is fucking idiotic. And if you'd look at where my argument began, it was in regards to that sort of attitude. Things aren't/don't have to be fair but that should also be recognized when asserting that broken logic of a dude with a gun being the top of the world.
>>720816
>she can't deepthroat
>>720983
>I just don't consider it correct
Oh well, excuse me madam.
If you don't like that shit don't fucking be around it, you dumb cunt. And they are, man. They may be idiots, but technically as humans, they are whether you like it or not, even if it doesn't fit in to your prissy clean sense of propriety.
>inb4 can't get away from it
bullshit
>>720979
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130808123719.htm
this makes a compelling enough argument for me not to feel guilty about eating fish.
>>720979
Not him but it is widely accepted that fish don't have the mental capacity to "experience suffering". Their brains aren't complex enough to form "thoughts", rather they mainly just react instinctively to external and internal stimulus. Fish's brains aren't much more advanced than the brains of insects in that regard.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130808123719.htm
>>720986
I never said I was oppressed by it and that this is something I will protest in the streets. I just think idiots like you who believe it shouldn't be allowed to procreate and I'll continue asserting my opinion about it when it's brought up (^:
>>720973
>make yourself a bow and arrows
>Go wound an animal and feed the buzzards.
>>720989
>But it is not known whether this is perceived as pain.
>But it is not known
>Not known
>This study suggests
>suggests
>>720994
If you're not oppressed by it then stop fucking complaining
Why do you think you're able to complain? Because of red meat proteins ingested by humans over tens of thousands of years, shitlord.
>>721003
Nah getting people like you riled the fuck up is too much fun.
>>721004
Did you even look at the source of the "blog"?
>>720945
this, but we are on 4chan, so every fucking guy needs to shit out their stupid opinion.
>>720843
We evolved to be able to make guns, cars, and projectiles capable of going almost 3000km/hr. That is our evolutionary advantage, the reason we are at the top of the food change. We are weak, slow, wimpy, and unprotected from the environment, but we don't need any of that shit because we can make tools. Fuck off, you caveman fuck.
>>720940
I'm betting you put something meaty in your mouth on the reg.
>>720973
Our advantage is that we don't have to be born with all of the knowledge and equipment for stuff, we can learn, and we can build whatever we need. That's how we ended up the dominant species on earth even though we're physically pathetic.
>>720816
Kill yourself fag, anyway, now I'm heading off to trap a few squirrels.
>>720816
i don't get it either.
if you kill it then you should eat it.
unless it had rabies or something.
>>720843
> humans are somehow separate from nature
You must be a religious fanatic or something, humans are literally a part of nature
>>720843
>spend $1500 in rifle, glass and some safety orange camo
>drive a few hours to hunting area
>hike several days worth of supplies to old NZDSA hut or farmers hut
>spend morning glassing the hills, looking for signs of deer
>gear up and head out on foot, look for deer shit, rubbings, velvet, tracks while traversing dense native bush or steep alpine terrain
>spot deer in the distance
>quietly approach deer, making sure not to startle with sound, sight or smell, until you have a good ethical shot
>shoot deer, if you're lucky it drops right there
>if not, follow blood trail and find it
>dress deer in the field
>butcher animal, or of it's small, throw it in your back and carry the meat several hours back to your hut
>hang meat
>repeat for duration of trip or until you have enough meat
Maybe your country just has a faggoty hunting culture.
Also
>implying that being able to easily kill any animal on the planet doesn't make you a fucking apex predator
>>720947
If we used all our technology for killing, there would be no living animal on this earth. We are not like cheetahs, we can reason, unlike you. What kind of predator is one that spends his time choosing molle-compatible gear, drinks his own piss and wacks off on his Fiskars hatchet?
this whole thread is fucking shit, if you're trolling to piss off hunters/sportsman, at least bring your "A" game. I hunt. I Kill , I Feed Meat to my kids. We are thankful that we are able to supplement our diet with wild game, as every hunter and fisherman should be. If you don't like hunting, don't come around, go fuck yourself. I'll hunt and fish until I die, and so will my kids, because its what we do. It's primal, we are humans, we conquered the food chain and animals. We will forever have the animals, plants and fish on our land to feed us. Try a steak, it'll make you feel better
>>720936
Who ever the fuck you are. Go back to /pol/ and fuck off of /out/ you constantly spew this "You millennials" bullshit broad comment that has no fucking supporting details other than to make yourself look like an arrogant asshole. And what the fuck are you? Gen x? Baby boomer? Gen y? What ever it is. No matter what. Someone in your generation fucked up just as badly as any generation of today or tomorrow. Go take your boner pills grandpa and jerk one off to furry loli porn a>>720937
nd head off to bed.
>>721213
Killing defenseless helpless animals made this Anon aggressive. It's sad to know that these are the types of people entrusted with guns.
>>721286
>Go take your boner pills grandpa and jerk one off to furry loli porn and head off to bed.
I'm sorry but I'm not a millennial.
>>721138
Also talking as if the ability to make complex tools is somehow not part of evolution is so retarded, like, that's pretty fucking basic knowledge. The reason humans can make all of this cool shit is because we EVOLVED massive brains, using our EVOLVED ability to make tools isn't "cheating" nature or whatever the fuck this hippy retard seems to think.
>>721313
Intergenerational learning is what made us what we are. Dolphins and octopi are pretty smart, but lack the ability and the tools to store and impart knowledge to the next generation. We evolved to have this ability.
"Muh murder muh nature" guy is just retarded.
>>721290
>defenseless
Prey animals have defenses.
>>721044
(; guilty
>>720816
>he lets other animals kill the deer in more vicious ways, or he simply lets them starve
>>720843
>be me
>a cheetah
>not allowed to run fast or use my claws
>gotta be "fair" to the other animals
> :^)
Man's superior intellect shouldn't be used as an ability he has.
I guess gorillas shouldn't be allowed to use leaves for collecting rainwater, because other animals have to go find a stream.
>>721474
>he simply lets them starve
pig disgusting
op and non-hunters in general are monsters
all vegans would rather prey to die of starvation, remember that
>>720931
Deer, Moose (meese?), geese, and certain fish, should all be massacred with extreme prejudice. Especially Meese, fuck them.
>>720973
Want me to dig up the blueprints my 8 year old self made for a retarded steam powered propane grenade launcher?
![theodorehant[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/muTOyOm.jpg "theodorehant[1].jpg")
>>721478
moose is the plural of moose
>>721480
Meese sounds better.
Fuck hogs too, hog genocide best day of life.
>>721481
>Meese sounds better.
'no'
>>721478
why deer? Geese are definitely assholes tho
>>721485
Reasons for deer:
>Stupid
>Destroys plants
>Runs in front of moving vehicles
>Breed like rabbits
>Eats everything in sight
>Tasty
>>720828
why dont you do yourself a favor
>>720962
I like that. Can I move there?
>Retarded coworker with OP's mentality
>Always bitching about using expensive gear for hunting
>Gear down to backpack, trash bags, knife, walking stick
>Walk down deer for the last 3 bow season
>Gets mad when I tell them I usually club or smother the deer after they're exhausted
>>720843
>using tools doesn't count because your tools are too good
>>720816
I personally only find it angering if a hunter doesn't care if the animal is endangered.
>>720816
>>he kills animals for sport
cool
Wow didn't expect out to be filled with hippies.
Hunting is okay, even better than killing farm animals because the game would overpopulate the area and destroy the eco system.
It's a a shame that bears, wolves, lynxes and so on got eradicated in all populated areas. I love untouched nature just like you. Somebody has to take the place of the predator now to regulate the reproduction of game.
In Germany every sector has to have a hunter by law.
Also: Applying ethics to nature is paradox. Nature is gruesome.
>>721739
/out/ isn't filled with hippies, the OP is just some trolling faggot.
>>721522
Well, I was referring to Texas in that post but I assume that many states have similar laws regarding waste of game and requiring that you make a "reasonable effort" to find and retrieve your kill.
You're free to move here if you want but I'm not sure how much longer our laws will be amenable to gun ownership and hunting as the brown horde marches steadily northward and our cities are all receiving a large influx of Californians. Texas will be a blue state in another 20 years.
>>721507
Ayy cunt
Yeah I don't really get how people can kill these graceful beautiful animals and think they are "superior" because of causing death and destruction.
>>722418
Ohh that's why..because they are fucking delicious and without population management you get enjoyable things like hemorrhagic disease and bovine TB. Not to mention an increase in vehicle strikes and starvation. Topped off with hunters generally taking large bucks if able to promote genetic diversity and prevent inbreeding hunters do more good for wildlife than any antihunter fag will ever do. Not counting the millions of dollars that goes into conservation from sale of licenses alone. Fucking hippies.
>>720843
The fact that it takes that little effort compared to other predators show that we really are the top animal.
>>720834
Then kill the fucking doe. Kill a buck? Plenty more where they came from.
Hunters don't want to reduce the populations of feral animals. Then they wouldn't have anything to hunt.
>>720828
Killing bucks and mounting their females with you alpha dick is good for them bitches
>>720927
Hunting isn't population control when the objective is to make a wall decoration. You hunt the thing with the biggest antlers so you can put it on a wall. You want to control a population? Hunt the animal that bears and rears young.
Putting a doe on a wall just wont look as good to though, would it?
>>720973
I made my own bow, it`s definitely strong enough to kill anything in my area, but laws forbid me from using it on game, besides from that I have the knowledge to construct a pipe bomb, starting from the natural occurring minerals, does that make a pipe bomb an acceptable hunting tool?
>>722466
no but shooting wolves from helicopters is
>>722464
We don't want to reduce population, just keep them stable. In most parts of the world they don't have any natural predators, or the predator population is too low. Without human hunters, they would massively overpopulate. How about you read a fucking book for once instead of pulling shit out of your vegan ass.
hunterfag here and it may sound cheesy, but the real reason to go hunting is the journey. Getting out in the wilderness, away from the city and people etc., shooting an animal is just a bonus. I don't always shoot an animal either, because they aren't always easy to find. So someone who is just out there to kill things would probably be bored.
>>720828
No hunter is going to waste the back strap, at least. Them thurr is some good eats. It's like steak, but actually tasty.
>>722755
I've got a package of venison backstrap from a deer my dad killed this year that I'm gonna thaw out and cook tomorrow. I'll probably cut half of it up into small strips and make a stir fry with it and then use the other half the next day for chicken fried steaks.
>>722788
Those methods of cooking are more ideal for shitty grocery store grade, bland meat. You should eat that shit cooked medium rare to get maximum taste.
>>722799
Well you can cook your own backstrap however you please, I'm having stir fry and chicken fried steak. I've gotten enough game meat over the past several years that I haven't bought beef or pork from a grocery store in at least 4 years.
We hunt in my area to keep the population of deer down to decent levels. Deer are a huge problem here in the midwest causing a high number of car crashes, some ending in fatalities. Whether you agree or not, human life is far more valuable than that of a deer. You're fucking stupid if you think otherwise. I don't personally hunt, but I'm glad people do... Keeps the insurance premiums down.
>>722466
>implying people only kill Bucks
Faggot do you even read population reports
>>722466
This is the problem with debating people who have never hunted; they don't know how it works. You're obviously basing your ideas on what you've seen in movies and TV, rather than the experience of being around hunting folk and understanding the rules and regulations of hunting on a first hand basis.
You're creating a straw man argument, which is pointless.
>>722512
1. I'm a meat eater.
>OmG hYpOcRitE
2. Here in Australia, deer are not native. They do incredible damage to our native environment. They're a fucking pest. Yet you still need a permit to hunt them in some states. That's fucked up. It should be open season on pest animals. I'm not against hunting for population reduction of pests. I'm against hunting for sport. Which is the topic of this thread.
>>720816
>but m'lady i dont like hunting unless its hunting me back
>>721313
Yes, using tools it's not "cheating the nature", but no, we don't evolved the ability to make tools, we don't even evolved the ability to use a more complex language(we evolved the ability to make complex sounds, but don't evolved to use these complex sounds as a complex language), because all that things are knowledge passed through generations. For example, in australia people don't invented the bow, and in tasmania they don't even know how to make fire, you can say that this only occur because they are just dumb nigger, but it's not a good argument, beucause when other people taught them, they just had the ability to learn. Read about the boy of aveyron if you want to know about language.
Anyway, what I mean is that we don't evolved our ability to make tools, we just evolved our ability to learn, and this is why it's not cheating to use tools. One cougar that born in the zoo and never hunted any animal just don't know how to hunt animals and can't survive in the wilderness, because the mother cougar never taught him.
I don't know if I make me clear, because my english is really bad.
I've always hunted deer for my meet. I tried bear hunting once and didn't have the heart for it. They cry like babies until they die. Told myself I wouldn't shoot another bear it. But I'm a pussy faggot. I used to hunt Elk but I couldn't stand the meat so I would donate it to homeless shelters for them to cook up and eat. I'm now in a tighter bind financially and don't have the time or money to Elk hunt anymore. I would like to hunt Moose one day if I ever win the lottery to hunt them. They only give out like 10 hunting permits for Moose each year in my state.
>tfw she animals for sport
>>723055
Fucking liar, elk is by fair the best meat.
>>720816
I do it for fun
>>720816
Well what the fuck else are squirrels good for?
Pic related is my squirrel remover
>>723109
I skin and eat them?
>>723109
How do you make fur out of a hunt? What is the difference between leather and fur?
>>720816
/out/ and /an/ really are the tumbler of 4chan
>>723217
kill em all anon. deer are just gods fucking land mines
>>720931
>"I love animals"
No you don't. You love THE IDEA of animals.
The reality of animals can be similar, but often is completely different from the idealized depiction of them in ways you don't think about.
For instance, deer as mentioned in the OP: Deer eat young and tender plants and underbrush. In the natural cycle of things, this foraging naturally opens clearings in forests where deer congregate.
But the thing is deer don't have judgement like we do. They don't look around and say "I better not have a fawn, there's not a lot of food around here anyway-I don't think it can handle one more." They just go ahead and have the fawn. However, if there are too many deer, there aren't any succulent plants around. Then deer will resort to eating things like tree bark and mature plants, completely destroying forests, which in turn ruins the populations of other animals that rely on THOSE plants to survive.
Too many deer also has another, more spectacular and costly effect-collisions with cars. Deer don't get the idea of cars, and during mating season they don't give two shits about anything but fucking another deer. So when a doe comes into heat and they're across a road, a buck will cross that road, no matter if it's empty or there's a string of soccer mom-piloted minivans full of kids. That leads to car crashes (the deer don't generally survive) wrecked cars, injured (and sometimes killed) people, and billions in insurance claims every year.
The solution is an easy and obvious one-predation. Since deer don't self-regulate their population, some outside force has to kill them to keep their numbers in balance with the rest of nature. Wolves and big wildcats can do that, but they tend to hunt kids and people as well, and that's not acceptable to us.
That's where humans as predators come in. By keeping the deer populations down to a sustainable level (which is determined by game management boards), the forests can sustain far more plants and animals.
>>720983
Why does that bother you?
They are generally hunting legally, abiding by hunting regulations, and keeping the population of animals at a sustainable level. They are also paying for the privilege to do so, and the money for their permits goes directly to fund governmental wildlife conservation efforts, plus whatever money those hunters give to other private conservation organizations.
In the process of doing that, they also pump money into the economies of rural communities, often economically depressed ones.
And all some of those people want to is have a little party and take some pictures if they're successful.
Considering that what they do for the environment is far more (and far more effective) than what you do, the least you can do is let them.
>>723051
I understood you, anon. Intergenerational learning is key. Without it, our knowledge base would be much smaller. We learn from what worked and what didn't work for our elders in previous generations, and it gives us an edge.
>>721290
Even stuff as "helpless" as deer have plenty of natural defenses. Their senses are far more developed than ours, they can run faster, they travel much more quietly than we do, and they have developed effective natural camouflage.
That we have evolved and developed our own natural abilities (cognitive, toolmaking and the like) to such a point that it looks like those animals are defenseless against us should be the only evidence you need of our status as the ultimate apex predator on this planet.
>>721481
Unless you like porn, then you think Meese sounds idiotic.
>>720828
That's a nice trophy. I had a chance at one about that big, but he was running across a field. If I were more of a crackshot he would be on my wall right now.
>>723479
I can see your point. You definitely have the right mentality about I think. I never said I don't think people should ever hunt. I understand it for survival and in your case, you make a good point. The main point I was trying to make was that people gloating and being obnoxious in regards to hunting is sickening. Disrespecting life is the aspect that seems cruel to me. If people were not fucking assholes about it and gave actual intelligible responses like you did, I wouldn't dislike hunting and hunting fags so much.
Sorry that your fellow hunters are such idiots and can't articulate their argument without sounding like red necks, but at least you're the exception.
>>720816
So? It's a pretty natural thing for people to do. Besides, it feels good to eat something you killed. It also makes you appreciate that something has to die for you to eat meat.
I've shot a mountain lion before.
No, I didn't eat it or utilize its hide for clothing.
I don't even give a fuck. Tree huggers and animal rights activists can suck my dick.
>>720816
It's really just a thing that pussies do. If you're eating an animal then I commend you. If you're just killing them for sport then you need to come to terms that you're only doing it because you got beat up so much when you were younger. You're basically trying to make up for how effeminate you are.
>>723789
>It also makes you appreciate that something has to die for you to eat meat.
So does a walk through an abattoir
>>721138
Are we fuck.
>>721009
I-I'm not s-stupid senpai, I-I-I was only t-trolling
>>722465
So...what you're saying is...you want to fuck the rabbit?
>>721204
What would be the advantage of using WMDs to kill all animals? You're making an absurd argument.
A hunter is going out to kill a deer, so he should use the most effective means to do so. This has nothing to do with animal holocaust.
>>720816
>they kill animals for sport
>>720816
>they kill animals for sport.
>>720816
>this makes people mad
Go back to your vegan thread on /ck/. That's where filth like you belong
>>721138
Separate from the food chain (99.9% of the time), not from nature. We have farms and are not a frequent food source for anything.
>>720977
If a fight is fair, you've already lost.
Anyone who is an animal lover (like me), but hates hunting, needs to listen to this episode of the Radiolab podcast
http://www.radiolab.org/story/rhino-hunter/
I still don't think I could ever hunt anything, but I'm proud to say that I now support hunting in the vast majority of contexts (yes, even game hunting and/or endangered animals)
>>726990
>>723715
>>723217
>>722466
>>722464
>>722418
Hunters are the primary funding source for wildlife conservation. If you care so fucking much stop living off the wildlife grants THAT WE FUND and start contributing your own money in.
Are you going to pay for it? no?
THEN WE ARE NOT DOING IT YOUR WAY.
http://www.fws.gov/hunting/whatdo.html
>>722813
This. In most of the country large, dominant bucks are extremely difficult to kill, which is why people mount them. Most deer hunters I know kill 3-5 does a season and a buck every few years.
>>722895
You do realise that even African sport hunting is good for the locals right? Putting an old animal out of its misery, feeding locals, locals making tools and clothing from the hide, sinew, and bone, putting money into the local economy, keeps carnivores from over populating and starving forcing them to feed on local humans, keeps herbivores from over eating all plant life and starving. Fuck off hippie.
>>727121
What the fuck did any of that have to do with what you just replied to?
>>727250
The fact that that guy said he's against hunting for sport? That sort of game hunting is made into a sport to make rich dentists want to pay money to kill the aging lion.
>>720989
So you are stating that it is acceptable to pull the wings off flies?
They have an even more primitive brain.
>>720931
>OK with fishing
>but not hunting
Genuine proof that it's not actually about ethics, just what you personally are OK with. Fucking megalomaniac.
>>720973
Yes that does make us the superior predator. If the weakest of us can defeat the strongest of them, we are superior predators.
>>720843
Hunters absolutely BTFO
>>720816
Why is this shitpost thread still here? Has no one reported it? Did a mod or janitor make it? Seriously, WTF?
You know by allowing continuous troll threads to survive on the board you lower the quality of the board continually.
how can anyone think "but I use every part of the animal" is a validation for killing it
like seriously what? It's absolute gibberish
>>727629
Like seriously omg xddddd
>>727629
we don't need to validate shit, if people are curious and ask why we do it we can explain why, but it doesn't really matter if you agree or not
>>720816
Well unless you're volunteering to be the game, stfu & take your candy ass back to whatever lib hell that spawned you.
>>720828
U ever seen inbreeding? Ya it's not to pretty. We hunters diversify. And eat.
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