Who else /ultralight/ here?
Pic related. All I need for 3 days/2 nights innawoods
>>710794
No one cares.
Ultralight is a meme for hippies. Literally every ounce counter I know is some scrawny white guy with either dreadlocks or a nasty beard.
You're probably vegan too, you fucking goon.
>>710799
high speed low drag
>>710794
tent from walmart, sleeping bag, 1 pint of water.
is there more we cant see, cause i pretty sure you gunna die
>>710804
Beef Jersey, hard tack, and multi vitamins in the pocket behind the tent plus a full three liter camelback
It's just two days, you don't need to pack that much retards. I think you're doing fine OP.
>Beef jerky, hardtack and vitamins
>to go /out/ for 3 days
Why
>>710818
I mean throw in a can of tuna and some trail mix if your picky...
>>710820
Depending what you're doing those 3 days is that really enough calories? I mean if OP is fishing or trapping/hunting some small game to cook on a stick over the fire then I'd get it
>ul for 3 days
>mfw
when you have to haul food for 7+ into the back country, i can understand shaving weight, but for just a short trip like that? i legitimately take fresh onions and peppers, beer, and glass bottles of hot sauce. of course i also have 20+ pounds of climbing gear, so i'm already fucked on the ul front.
>>710807
>meme vitamins
multivitamins are a waste of money at the best of times but if you're only going to be gone for two days why even bother?
>>710794
What do you pack in there? I'm looking for a gear list for a 2 night trip.
>>710823
It's 3 days. I went 3 weeks without a full meal in Iraq. Scared to lose a few pounds?
>>710794
How far are you hiking on this three day two night trip? Because if it's less than forty-five miles you're an idiot.
>>710875
not about to lose my gains for a meme pack
>>710954
same here I get /out/ on a regular basis but enjoy not looking like a dirty hippie skeleton
why do people hate ultralight packing so much? Seems more of a minimalist thing than a "i'm a frail skelliton" thing. It presents a challenge more than anything.
>>711043
I don't understand the hate.
I'm not an ultra lighter and I don't understand UL people.
The most significant amount of weight you carry is on your body. Going to the gym 3 times a week beats spending big dollars on a fancy tent, pack, and titanium appliances.
All of an ultra lighter efforts are diverted into spending more money than other backpackers instead of roughing it.
>tfw backpacking
>spot other backpackers dragging their 65L packs with extra items attached to the sides while wearing a 10 gallon hats
>just two miles into the trail and already huffing and puffing with some stopping to take a break
>walk past them and leave them in the dust
>able to cover 20 miles in one afternoon without breaking a sweat.
>able to make it out farther and faster than those house movers and their Flextrek Whipsnake edition packs.
>camp in pristine regions regular backpackers never get to.
>camp in a hammock and tarp that took minutes to set up
>see backpackers struggle with their 10 person tents
>with the extra time i'm able to make my camp cozy as fuck
>only pack food for 2 days because i can cover cover their 6 day journey in 2 days.
Feels good to be ULP
>>711053
The reason I hate it is because it's kind of contradictory to me, backpacking , atleast for me isn't a sport , it's to relax and have fun... I would rather carry some extra weight and be comfy at camp and cover a little less mileage
However I understand if you're doing like a thru hike or whatever it's more of an Athletic event and you need to maximize distance
To each their own but I'm a big guy and I don't mind carrying an extra pound or two, doesnt make a huge dif to me, for instance I always bring my binoculars, dead weight to most ultra lighters but I enjoy using them and don't mind the weight
>>711043
Because of the pointless one-up-manship. I'm here to chill in the fucking woods, not lord my /out/ness over basically fucking nobody.
>>711087
funny, that's what you fags came to do to this thread. Just let us have our thread. I'm also here to chill in the woods.
>>711043
>It presents a challenge more than anything.
For a few vocal ultralighters, gram-counting seems to be the only worthwhile /out/ pursuit. The only goal seems to be carrying the lightest pack, not enjoying the outdoors.
Of course, the vast majority of ultralighters aren't like that. This board just seems to perceive the whole group that way because of those loudmouths.
I dont know what this ultralight meme comes from.
For all I know every single person now and throughout history always aims at cutting down weight of the shit they carry.
I use regular (good) hear and I'm happy with a weight of 10kg or less.
What I recommend is you set a goal to shave weight from your gear but also that you get used to more weight than that, so you can fill the remaining quota with water and food
>>711090
That's because ultralighters are the vegans of backpacking. They just can't stop talking about how little grams their weak equipment weights, disregarding the fact that nobody asks them to explain.
>>711053
Lol you dumb faggot my tent is from walmart
>>711092
The only people who have talked about gram shaving or whatever the fuck you're on about are the heavypackfags...
>>710948
Everybody always ignores the voice of reason.
UL doesn't mean shit to a car camper, except that they'll have less durable and effective gear. If you're thru-hiking or at least trying to do 15-30 mile days for a weekend trip, UL can be the difference between getting where you want to camp or having your body crap out on you before you get there.
It's like arguing about whether cars or trucks are better. Well, do you have to haul shit around a lot or do you mostly commute and need to save on gas? Different tools for different fools. What's best for you is never what's best for everybody else.
Anyone else hyperultralight minimalist here? Pic related, all I need for a Shasta ascent
>running up scree halfway up
>encounter group with gigantic backpacks, goggles, helmets, all sorts of shit
>ask them when they started since I didn't see them in the parking lot and I got going pretty early
>they brought tents, food, etc. and camped on the side of the mountain so they didn't have to climb it all in one day
This is why I don't understand non ultralighters, they pack so much shit that it slows them down to the point where they need even more gear, and the cycle continues until it takes them 2 days to do something that takes 3 hours
Turning your 10 day thru-hike into an hour jog since the advent of synthetic fabrics.
>>710794
I'd leave the chair behind desu senpai
I hear the saying "oz on the feet is a lb on the back" is there any truth to that when it comes to UL since you bring almost nothing anyway? Have you ever seen any ultralighters go barefoot?
>>711491
But it's so comfy
>>711467
> hyperultralight
> carrying a pistol
Fucking kill yourself
>>711435
BUT MUH IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CARRY 60LBS AT ALL TIMES WITH AN ANTIQUE EXTERNAL FRAME PACK YOU'RE A FUCKING PUSSY HIPPY FAGGOT
>>711511
Ultralighters tend to prefer light weight trail runners over boots, ankle support isn't really necessary when you're carrying so little, and after a while of hiking with no ankle support your muscles get stronger and can support it. afaik there are even some ultralighters who use those vibram meme shoes.
>>710824
This.... my fucking 2 day pack might be 35 lbs if it's cold and I want to cook. Shut gets ridiculous on the long ones lol
>>711593
Hey I carry one of those old ass external frames ya dick. But sho not 60lbs worth...
W-W-What was that?!?
W-W-who's there??!!
I've never seen such speed and agility!1!!
Sadly the simple backpacker won't ever see the joys and freedom of UltraLight backpacking. Speed to them is unheard of, a myth, a tall tale.
>>711593
Actually, what I was saying (and you'd know this if you bothered to read the whole post) is that there's a time and a place for everything.
Well, except your attitude. I once lived with a developmentally disabled four year old girl who knew better than to throw a tantrum like that.
>mfw ultralighting
>>711467
can we get a pic of you in that outfit
>>711790
>2 extra stuff sacks
>not sleeping on leaves
>carrying a watch
>glasses
My back hurts just looking at that. He's probably not even circumcised.
>>711605
>>711608
>>711609
>>711615
>>711467
Have you considered that they might like being outdoors for a while?
>>711066
Sounds nice. What kinda sleeping gear u got?
Oh so you're a ultralighter and you bring a tent? Now that's an interesting choice
>>711798
>My back hurts just looking at that
thank you mr skeltal
While I personally have suffered the burden of packing way too much for too short a trip, I still wouldn't bother with ultralight.
>>710794
I've never been ultralight camping but I'd love to pick your mind.
>Why not go minimalist? Vid related.
>What is the mindset of an ultralight camper?
>Can you unpack your stuff and show us what was in it?
>What do you do for eating and possibly cooking?
>What is your best sales-pitch to convince somebody that ultralighting is equal to minimalist/standard camping/is worth a try?
Not trying to be rude; I'm just curious.
>>712007
>why not? There is no vid
>don't want to carry all this shit, must be a better way
>will do after work
>usually prepackaged food like jerky, cereal bars, etc
>back problems, desire to cover more ground I'm less time
It's not so much about carrying less than others, but being smart about certain trips. I work a lot and very frequently have minimal time to get out. If I can get off work at 3 on a Friday and on the trail by 4, I can get 7 or so miles done, 20 something the next two days, and have what should have been a five day trip done in three. Personally I agree that if I had the five days id bring normal shit, and I do whenever possible. For me it's more about versatility. Hence the tent, I'm sure most ultralighters would chastise me...
>>710794
Me! I do!
>>710801
Kek
>>711066
>tfw you go to the gym
>you are able to carry more weight without sweating
My packs base weight is at 11 pounds for my PCT Thru-hike. Add water and food and I'm looking at< 22 pounds. What's wrong with that?
>>713994
That's not bad. I recently went to a PCT seminar-type thing at REI, the guy who gave it said his base weight was six pounds. There's no way I'm anywhere near that, but I also don't have the money to drop on great gear, so I'll just have to push through with what I've got.
>>714120
People that get their base weight that low are sleeping on yoga mats. When's your start date friend
![778[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/gINfM8a.jpg "778[1].png")
>>710801
>>714217
I think he said he was sleeping on some new thermarest that crinkles every time you move, basically a Mylar party balloon. I don't trust inflatables, personally. Closed cell for me.
May 8th. You? (It might just be the two of us, only one other person seems to chime in at a time.)
>>714217
those must be some light ass yoga mats
How hard is it to adjust to sleeping on a torso length CCF pad? Really want to go UL, baseweight currently at 12 lb for the PCT, but this is a stickler because I'm a side sleeper.
>>711467
Yeah ok, you take a gun and multiple magazines and no ice axe to summit Shasta.
>>710836
yea and they take up so much weight
>>715423
Why would I need an ice axe, I have microspikes and a gun. There was almost no ice on the route I took anyway (clear creek)
>>710794
Nice chair op
>>711467
>running
nah. i like taking a couple days to do shit like that. enjoy a night at elevation. hang out and cook with a couple friends. chill and enjoy the view.
not to bag on what you like. if it makes you happy that's good. it just wouldn't make me happy.
>>710875
people go /out/ in their spare time for pleasure and enjoyment. there's literally no need to punish yourself
being a solider in a fucking warzone is a completely different scenario
>>711467
Maybe they just want to chill
what am I
It is winter
It is really cold
Now what?
>>711467
This pic is a meme from edc threads. Too many newfags in this thread right now taking it seriously.
>>715562
Whether or not it's a meme, it is my picture
>>715572
you got some fucked up toes, dude. maybe time to cut back on the scree running.
>>715548
A midget, judging by them poles there.
>>715419
I have the one you pictured, in combination with the Gossamer Gear Thinlight 1/8". Served me very well for three years, even down to -12°C.
As to side sleeping, that's really a personal preference you'll find out for yourself. I have no problem at all sleeping on my side with that combo, ymmv. However, if you're going true UL, I'd suggest an inflatable pillow to raise your head of the ground, seeing as if you've been a good little sc/out/ there shouldn't be any spare clothing left besides your sleep system.
>>715573
dont be a faggot just because he called you out on your bullshit
>>715907
>implying i'm in anyway embarrassed or hiding how i enjoy going /out/
i make no secret of preferring to move slow and take extra gear for it. i'm >>715531
and, objectively, dude's feet are fucked up. if he doesn't want to hear it he shouldn't post them
>>715470
Ok, cold creek is 2k elev gain so that's totally doable as an easy day hike. Your load out makes sense except for the gun. Also, shorts bro.
We attempted Shasta a few weeks ago via Casaval ridge and this happened. 80 mph winds at 10,500, whiteout
Actually, we should have an UL General #1 thread... Juzsayin
All I need is my furry suit, it has ample supplies of water and waste recycling system. And the built in claws allow me to hunt like a real wolf.
I can survive in it for 7 days in the wild, 8¬9 days if I am horny!
>>716216
>2k gain
Maybe for my lunch run. I don't know what cold creek is but clear creak is ~6.5k
I understand buying lightweight gear. All my /out/ gear is the lightest practical stuff I could find plus mandator carry Army gear when I'm out for work. But why carry next to nothing for short trips? Why not carry more stuff and enjoy your time instead of carrying 5kgs and struggling?
If you're struggling with the weight but you've spent that much on gear, you just look like the biggest weekend warrior IMO.
Also, the lack of water here concerns me.
>>717142
Low weight actually makes hiking at all speeds more comfortable. In fact lets you speed through the boring parts of a trail and spend more time at the interesting sections.
>>717116
10/10
>>717116
Very nice. It's like you are a real wolf. Have you ever been accepted into a pack of wolves?
>being a skinnyfaggoy
>being hungry innawoods
>l-look guys I went into the woods with only 7 lbs of gear for a few days hehehe Im such an avid outdoorsman literally nothing phases me
>I-I'm really hungry
>Your pack was 20 lbs
>hahaha thats cool I only seriously only took my tent, didnt even fill my canteen up all the way I just said fuck it you know hahaha
>I've been dizzy for 4 days now and I keep throwing up
>>717875
one day anon, one blessed day ;_;
>>718023
You don't really throw up from under eating. It's usually the opposite actually.
>>715927
I'd hardly call those toes fucked up. They're just long and he has them bent because he's standing. You're just jelly this guy has god tier legs.
> man those legs are good, let me pick on his toes to try to make him feel insecure
>>717116
Audibly Kek'd at dogs face
How is that enough water? What about food?
How does this work?
>>718164
>don't really throw up from under eating.
spoken by someone who has never been hungry I bet. Go a week or 2 with minimal food. Probably a douchebag hipster that's never worked or had to sacrifice to survive.
>>721139
Stop shitposting.
>>721153
You're joking right? Have you ever been hungry? I don't mean gee it's lunch time hungry or opps I missed dinner hungry. I mean haven't eaten at all for 3 days because it's more important for your child to eat. Now extend that to a week, or longer.
Fucking sht posting, go fuck your self.
>>711066
>camp in pristine regions
Nice romantic cosplay but there is no such place on earth
Nothing on the surface of earth is pristine
All has been changed by humans
