>7 billion humans and no signs of really slowing down
Soon all the planet will be cities, industries and mechanized farms.
>>704445
GOD PLEASE NO!
>>704445
> State sponsored homosexuality for population cpntrol
> State issued "License To Breed"
> Automatic Death Penalty for unauthorized births
> euthenasia for congenital birth defects
> ALL OF THEM
> one blended genetically perfect blended master race
> OF SLAVES
Bring on a pandemic of biblical proportions.
Feelsbadman.jpeg we have fucked this planet and ruined the environment
This world with a population of only like 500M people with homogeneous white race would be a fucking dream to live in.
It's already slowing down. It'll probably peak around 9 billion at mid-century point.
Also remember that the largest city in the world has a metropolitan area something like a third the size of a place like Phoenix. Cities are the solution, not the problem.
>>704471
> cutting your own grass
> cooking your own Chinese food
> cleaning your own hotel room
Why do you hate Mexicans so much?
>>704445
Cant wait for UN Agenda 21.
>>704550
Who will be allowed to live?
The world population increase is going down.Boomers are dying out now and having 10 children is no longer the norm. Also porn and autism is gonna stop people from breeding.
And there will be a new ice age at some point in the future that will kill the weak.
Im not worried.
>>704559
> American clearly detected
Live with yoyr sub 2.0 birth ratio, 3rd world countries will overwhelm you with a brown tide that will DROWNED YOU!
Allah ackbar!
>>704559
>having 10 children is no longer the norm
In many places, it still is
>>704558
Me at least, I'm white, educated, good looking, married, tax payer, don't own a v for vendetta mask. And surely we'd all fair well in the wild lands between super cities?
>>704461
As fucked up as it is, I kinda agree.
We really do need some sort of selective breeding before the planet ends up like that movie "Idiocracy". Poor people and stupid people having 5+ kids while hard working professionals might have one kid when they are 40.
>it's got what plants crave!
>>704598
>tripfaggot thinking he will be allowed to reproduce
No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility
But economic development lowers birth rates.
It isn't cities that'll be growing.
People who can afford to live in tower blocks don't have that many kids.
It'll be the shantytowns that stretch to the horizon. You can already see them in places like Lagos.
>>704602
Hey, I never said I will be allowed in that selective breeding.
op just how retarded are you?
>>704608
You haven't been to the hood.
And they have kids so young, that even if a girl only has 3 kids in here lifetime, it will be from age 16-20, then those 3 kids each have 3 kids by 20, and so on.
So in 60 years with a college-educated white couple that has 2-3 kids, they are probably waiting until their late 20s or early 30s to have kids. You will have 3 generations of white kids in 100 years while you have like 6 generations of hoodlums in 100 years. And that means exponentially more people.
Luckily half of them will die by 30 from shooting eachother.
>>704445
your a fucking retard
>>704461
>State sponsored homosexuality for population cpntrol
What was that space sci-fi book that had that in it? The Forever War? Imagine coming home to that.
>>704634
*you're
Ftfy
>>704548
I do all those things already. Though I don't stay in hotels.
Mostly you'll be talking about things that have "Made in ___" on them, regardless of the place.
>>704644
> very good!
>I love a well read anon!
...I-I love you, anon...
Also read 'A World Out of Time', by Larry Niven.
Currently reading 'Against the Fall of Night', by Clark. Set about 500,000 yrs in the future, just started it.
ITT: statistics vs. xenophobia
>>704648
I would rather make my own shit and do. Pic related, 100% USA original (design and assembly).
>>704625
Problem solved then?
>>704662
No. Not quite. We need to incite a little more violence into the hood. Also be more lax on weapons within the prison system so they kill eachother in there. And give guns and crack cocaine to the Chinese and Indians.
>>704485
From a land standpoint, but not a resource standpoint.
>>704608
>this
My wife has no desire to have kids since we are "successful" in our careers. Feels no need to validate her life through childbirth.
>>704667
> right
Sounds familar...
>>704657
I couldn't off hand remember if it was The Forever War or Old Man's War, but then I remembered they never come back to Earth in Old Man's War.
I just finished "Rendezvous with Rama" but I can't remember the titles of even half the stuff I've read that I like. It may be a little pulpy at times, but I love E. E. Smith's stuff (Lensmen series and Skylark series). The Mote in God's Eye was pretty good too, which Niven wrote with Jerry Pournelle. Stephen Baxter's Manifold Trilogy were good. So was Evolution by Baxtor. I have The Long Earth 1-4 by Terry Pratchett & Stephen Baxter, but haven't started.
>A World Out of Time
Wrote that one down.
>Against the Fall of Night
I haven't got around to that one either.
If you like really short reads and puply sci-fi, try the Richard Blade series and The General series (Raj Whitehall series).
I have my own personal library of 1,000s of books. Half sci-fi/fantasy fiction and half research/education.
>>704677
> welcome to the end of your line.
>>704693
Nice. Good taste!
>>704660
>100% USA original (design and assembly).
I said, " "Made in ___" on them, regardless of the place."
Because even if it is made in the USA, it is normally made by minorities. Now stuff you are personally DIYing is different, but the PCB in your image uses components you don't manufacture at home. Putting it together is just a more complicated form of playing Legos (no offense, I love /ohm/). Those parts and materials are sourced from around the world and assembled by you.
>>704703
Agreed. But who taught those goat fuckers hos to build and run a foundry in the first pkace?
Agreed, 1st world has outsourced much manufacturing, textiles so on. All of which could be reattained and should be.
Note: there is no goung back
Also note: we are doomed, life as we know it will never return, any mire than it did for the Neanderthals, Romans or the South "rising again"
Doomed. Get your real fur now. There won't be any in the monoculture of tomorrow.
>>704602
That is not what it is about.
I understand that such rights are not assured.
>>704625
Brah, the fertility rates among black America are below replenishment level too.
>>704588
not really.
not even in India or africa
>>704793
> I have no idea sbout India and Africa
>>704461
State sponsored homosexualism should be a thing. With so many autists, hikkokimoris, and the like, there will be a lot of old and elderly people more than ever with no social ties to help them when they are disabled.
>>704675
New York City is actually one of the most resource efficient places per person in the world.
>>704824
Yes and no.
Apparently the ideal housing, from an energy efficiency standpoint is around 6 or 7 stories.
Below that, the AC isn't efficient enough, above that, too much energy does to the elevators.
The idea would be 7 stories, and everyone walking, riding bikes, or taking the subway.
>>704830
>above that, too much energy goes to the elevators
So get rid of all the elevators and make rental prices inversely proportional to floor number. Lazy, rich people will inhabit the lower floors and the poor people would still have an affordable place to live with the tradeoff that they'd be climbing stairs for 30 mins a day. The average city dweller could do with an extra 30 minutes of stair climbing a day to meet their exercise needs.
>>704445
>end welfare for nigs and natives and everything will sort itself out
>>704830
I assume your source is Kunstler, and the only way he could find that is if making a building taller was otherwise energy-neutral, because elevators do not consume tons of electricity. The elevators in a typical 20 story building will consume about as much energy as 2 cars commuting in from the suburbs.
But that's still only taking the building in a vacuum. The point of building tall is density, and density pays massive dividends in energy efficiency -- like eliminating those cars commuting in from the suburbs.
>>704445
That's why I have respect for countries where their homogenous poplulation is on the decline.
>>704897
It also greatly reduces the public infrastructure necessary to service all those people as well, cutting out miles and miles of water lines, sewer lines, power lines, and telecom cables that would otherwise have to be maintained and repaired constantly.
>>704901
It's generally not a decision made for environmental reasons, just cultural/financial.
>>704885
You're a retard. What about people with broken legs, seniors who can't walk that well.
>>704445
Most of that is concentrated in third world shit holes, isn't it?
Y'know, where turn over rate is really high?
>>704548
White people do all of that here in maine.
Well irish and Italian. Anglos and french not so much.
The only reason there are 7 billion people now is that we've discovered how to use fossil fuels. If you put ten mice in a room with unlimited food they will breed until the room explodes. We will run out of fossil fuels soon. It will start by food prices exploding then rioting in the streets. Within 3 weeks the human race consists of gangs of cannibals and there prey.
But don't worry, this is an /out/ists dream, wait in the deep forest while shtf. Come back to find the cities have returned to nature and all those littering rednecks are dead.
>epic win
>>704445
It should be one birth and thats it. Plus people these days dont get married or have kids (smart).
Europe is slowing down, america too. This is the main argument for letting the refugees in, ''we will disappear look people aren't having kids''
only africa and these muslim shitholes are still growing.
>>704992
Cull the weak, sick, and elderly for they are only holding us back.
Or, you know, maybe they can leave the city and live somewhere that's both more affordable and less vertically challenging.
There is only one true solution
Masturbation
>Sponsor MGTOW
>Sponsor lesboterrorism
>Sponsor Beta uprising
>Give assault rifles to those betas
>release them on china, russia, africa
>war
>20 years later world population drop from 7B to 600M
>>704598
The average IQ of people is continously rising people are getting smarter they are just thinking less
>inb4 the average IQ is always 100
I know.. that's how IQ works but comparing a current person with 100 IQ now to someone many years ago the current postdoc would be significantly smarter. But I personally think the current generations of people do less problem solving which makes them poor thinkers. But that part is a personally theory
SHTF is gonna happen and we'll all live dark ages technology pagans innawoods.
Varg preaches it
If you want to speed up SHTF then go full Teddy :^)
Don't worry i trust that Ebola-chan will appear again and lower the human population again
7 billion people continually sucking down resources and polluting at the current rate it will be a steaming pile of shit in no time. No, we don't need new inventions like electric cars. Gas engines are fine but way too many people are using them. The population has to drop down below 1 billion very soon if we expect to sustain existence.
>>704992
Throw them down the stairs
>>705524
God I hope so
There are people in this thread that actually think overpopulation is white people having too many kids and not brown ones.
Whites and Japs need more babies like mad. We're fucked because we stopped.
>>704485
>Cities are the solution, not the problem.
I have to disagree. Sticking a large population of people into a small area that can't grow enough food or provide enough water to keep those people alive is ridiculous. Most large cities have to import food and water to keep them selves going, while also exporting waste because they don't have anywhere to put it.
The most efficient way for us to live, though this is efficient in the sense that we would use less energy to transport necessary resources, would be to spread out and build small communities around agricultural rich areas. Of course, this would require a completely different way of thinking and we'd have to scrap the perpetual growth idea's we've come to believe in, but it could also solve many of our current problems. We have scraped so much human labor on farms for fossil fuel powered machines, but if we left the cities and lived around the farms, then we'd have more labor available, and could stop using so much machinery. All of a sudden people have important work to do, jobs are numerous and we become less dependent upon fossil fuels.
>>705673
But the lower the population density, the more you rely on the internal combustion engine as a means of transport.
Unless you're suggesting we go without hospitals, TVs, strip malls, supermarkets, and sex shops.
Ain't gonna happen. Only 3% of the US population is engaged in agriculture, and to go back to the fields would be to accept a massive decline in standard of living for no real reasons.
>>705673
THAT'S IT!!
FUCK YOU ALL!!
I'm converting to Amishness and gonna get me three young wives and a big fucking tractor! I will Tweet you when I do!
>>705676
>Unless you're suggesting we go without hospitals
Hospitals would benefit from being smaller but more numerous.
The trick would be paying for that.
>>705676
Just imagine spreading out the millions living in cities into smaller (max 100,000) sized communities. They'd be all fairly close together, so transport could easily be done via rail or public bus. There would be small communities surrounding larger centers (the max size) that have more services and entertainment. Hell, even with 20,000 population you can still have small clinics, strip malls, supermarkets, and sex shops. Have you ever been to small towns? They have those needs covered.
By switching over to this type of living, the mono-culture type farm would be transitioned into one that grows a wide variety because it will be seeking to fulfill the dietary needs of the community, and not making the highest dollar off the open market, where their crop would eventually be utilized thousands of miles away.
I get that it is very unlikely to ever happen, and the only way people would stop living in large cities is if a devastating disease made it too risky or if a substantial economic collapse forced them into the rural areas looking for land to grow food.
>>705677
We could all learn a thing or two from the Amish desu. They understand the importance of being independent from far away places.
>>705677
The amish dont use tractors you faggot, traw horse drawn plow. The also dont practice polygamy. That is mormon fundamentalists, a group that the amish think are going to hell.
>>705721
If such a place exists, it would be hard to argue that they won't be. Everything about the Mormon religion is blasphemous. Basically America the religion.
People in this thread are being mislead and deluded by false information. Overpopulation is a myth. Studies show that we're actually heading towards UNDERpopulation.
>Recently the United Nations Population Division estimated that 44 percent of the world's people live in countries where the fertility rate has already fallen below the replacement rate, and fertility is falling fast almost everywhere else.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1999/08/the-population-surprise-9908/377735/
https://business.highbeam.com/4776/article-1G1-55915194/reproductivity-overpopulation-no-problem-long-run
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/13/italy-is-a-dying-country-says-minister-as-birth-rate-plummets
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-s-birth-rate-lowest-in-the-world-according-to-study-10286525.html
http://theweek.com/articles/453219/everything-need-know-about-japans-population-crisis
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/defusing-population-bomb
It's also worth mentioning that according to the people who started the "overpopulation" craze in the 60s and 70s, we should all be starving to death right now.
>>705721
Well that just shows what you know. I meant like my own Amishness religion!
"We" get wives and tractors and strap on dildos for pegging!
Welcome to my Amishness jungle baby!
And you are going to hell, by the wayfullness.
>>705729
And don't be so judhemental, dude. Mormons are cool bros and broettes.
>>705673
That's not efficient at all. Efficiency comes from economies of scale and specialization. Currently, 2% of our population farm, with another 15% in the food industry. There's not a massive amount of arable land out there that's not being used; in fact, we're farming plenty of land that really isn't arable (most of California). Bump up to, say, 20% of the population farming, and suddenly all of the farmers have a tenth of the wealth that they have now. This is not efficient. In fact, it would push farmers towards terrible farming practices, just to make ends meet. Intensive farming that depletes the soil, farming marginal land, farming desert with aquifer water -- all the bad stuff about farming today, times 10. And for what? It's no more sustainable, and if Medieval Europe is any guide, it would start urbanizing again anyway. There would just be a lot of suffering in the meantime.
>>705711
What part of "a city of 10 million is more resource efficient than a city of 100,000 or 20,000" aren't you getting here.
I assumed you were talking about everyone returning to agrarian subsistence farming.
That may be stupid, but at least it would actually work in economic terms.
>>705721
Several Amish people die every year from the boilers exploding on their steam powered farm equipment. They don't use ICE vehicles or equipment but some of them have steam engine tractors.
>>705819
>not using woodgas or biogas
fucking plebs everywhere, I swear to god.
>>705810
> basically the worst parts of the Bible
> it would be 9/11 x 100
My God!
T-that's 91,100!
>>705742
>exponential growth is sustainable for ever and we are under populated.
Good goy.
>
>>705635
this
all of those brown countries have so many god damn children
like holy shit if I lived in africa where everything was full of AIDS and ebola I wouldn't bring 8 fucking kids into this world so they can all die of malaria by age 6
>>705864
>Jews want us to keep having kids so we can be obedient consumers
>Jews want white people to stop having kids so Western civilization is destroyed
Man, I see both of these arguments constantly, it's almost like there's a huge amount of cognitive dissonance going on.
>>705559
2014 outbreak killed just over 11,000 people. Everyday there are over 300,000 births. I don't think ebola lowered the population or ever will
>>704598
Personally I'm glad that dumb people breed so frequently, so eugenicists like yourself will always be an easily squelched minority.
Just a rant about junk. There's so much fucking useless junk bought and made, shipped all over the place. "knick knacks", novelties, crappy chinese goods that break when you use them, other shit, everything wrapped in plastic and carted around using gasoline/diesel. I get that people need stuff to live, but no one needs a talking wall fish or ten thousand gag gifts. It's just wasteful of natural resources. Most of this shit ends up in a landfill eventually. Meanwhile, houses are bigger to fit all this junk in it, more heating and air conditioning, more construction cost and time, more chemical cleaning agents, more land used. People buy way too damn much shit. You can agree instead of spending our collective resources to make 5 widgets which all break after a month, we should put a little more labor cost to make one widget which lasts forever? 1/5 of the resources and shipping costs. Better end result, less in landfill.
Everyone who shops at walmart should be shot.
>>704548
>not running over my hose and clipping overreaching garden plants
>food that doesn't give me a bowel movement five minutes after eating it
>making my own bed and dumping the towels in a wash bin instead of some fat bitch who doesn't wash her hands after shitting handling my sheets
God forbid.
>>704677
Same. I have relations on both sides of the family who bred enough. My genes are already well propagated. If we can get /biz/ here, I'm looking forward to the heaps of money saved that I can then spend on myself, probably going /out/ and /trv/. Having kids is great for certain people who like caring for others, but not everyone needs to breed. So if you don't like kids in particular anyway, why bother? I hate kids. I don't need to subject myself to 20+ years of torture just to "spread my genes" when they're already spread.
My mom's parents had 7 kids, and on my dad's side his aunt had 9. There's my genes, very well distributed already. Thanks senpai.
>>704830
Would live. Keep all human activity to the cities rather than letting it spill into endless suburbs and housing developments. More pristine wilderness. I have no problem living in an apartment if it means my woods are clean instead of being chopped down for joe bumblefuck to have a suburban mcmansion.
>>704885
>Lazy, rich people will inhabit the lower floors
Do you know what a penthouse apartment is and what they go for?
>>704895
If only.
>>704897
>>704909
These.
>>704992
>guy says people can use more exercise
>wh-what about this 1% of people with an actual medical problem?
Fatty internet defense force pls go. Obviously grandma can take an elevator, but shaquanita and her 300 lbs of ass could use the damn stairs.
>>705438
Why do we have to grow? Why not sustain where we are now?
>>705711
Germany is pretty much what you've described (although not quite as scaled down as you've proposed) and it is probably one of, if not the most, environmentally impacted country in the world.
The only way what your proposing works is if we have a small enough global population to the point that conservation and efficiency are no longer relevant problems.
>>706046
I mean why did it not work In Germany tho? Do people still drive and commute ect?
>>704445
>no signs of really slowing down
i beg to differ birthrate is declining all over the developed countries
>>706253
>don't drive
>be a bum
>don't work
>don't have kids
>dress like you're homeless
>act like a retard
>play in traffic
>break the law with malicious intent
>spend recklessly
Repeat after me: HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>706253
>Autism
>>706233
>developed countries
>>706233
>>706288
>falling birthrate means lower population
>>706286
>autism
I think that word does not means what you think it means.
>>706258
> drive
> go to work
> have kids
> dress like every one else
> act normal.
> afraid to jwalk. Follows every rule out of fear.
> has tens of thousands or more of debt on a house and student loan. Has to work for 30 years to pay off.
> can't survive more than a month with out a pay check without losing everything
> Hur dur why don't you want my freedom.
> if you're not free like me kill yourself.
Uh no.
>>704445
Join the rat race!
>>704461
It's funny how your trying to paint a vastly different distopian future when we already live in a distopian present.
>>706290
give it time
or we can try the age old method for population control
WAR
>>706253
If you have a better way to survive I'm all ears
Anyone know if it'd be possible to survive underground indefinitely? Terrified of the thought of plague/nuclear winter/societal collapse and want to create a new breed of survivors underground
>>704468
That's what the communists want you to think son.
>>706368
War and natural disaster are good for the economy.
>>706565
>if it'd be possible to survive underground indefinitely?
no.
>>704445
No, there are signs of slowing down, just not in 3rd and 2nd world countries. 1st world countries have drastically declined and the trend will continue since in a century or so robots will be taking up the brunt of the low-level jobs, say goodbye to immigrants and poor people.
>>706714
> say goodbye
Oh, thank God! They are always... so... greasy!
>>706733
Middle class too. In fact the middle class is already rapidly disappearing.
Your obsolete.
>>706565
in theory yes. technologically possible.
practically? not bloody likely you can do it. the supporting infrastructure will not be self contained on your budget. you would need a small city with hundreds of people and equipment designed specifically to be maintained at a low tech level or go on for centuries.
>>705026
Mainers are insufferable
>>706165
It depends on how you want to look at it on one level it did work because Germany is very energy efficient, maintains high standards of living, strict environmental regulations for thugs that pollute air and water. But it is a failure in the sense that there is no place in German that is a natural landscape because people are so spread out they impact everything. There rivers are channels, their deltas are cities, there marshes are drained, and their forests are disjointed by a patchwork of towns and farms.
Not all of this is entirely due to the lack of heavy urbanization in Germany, it is partially due to much of the human development happening before people understood or cared about the environmental impacts of development. But I still believe that the population being spread out is one of the primary factors in why Germany has destroyed their environment.
This is why in the US there has been a shift to heavy urbanization and less rural or suburban blight.
>>704445
4/5ths of the population is in undeveloped shithole countries.
>>704677
>This kills the white race
>>704677
i'm the same
i think my gf is more afraid to have kids than averse to it. childbirth is not funny so many things can go wrong the mother can die a dozen ways. and even if everything goes smooth it fuckes up her skin and body.
>>706745
> obsolete
I love that episode!
>ITT: Pic Related
Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't ;^)
>>708444
wtf i can't make any sense of this bullshit
>>708550
Not the poster but seriously, i can disearn its points pretty fucking easy. Not that hard to get.
>>708596
good for you i just can't tell if it's irony or something else
>>708602
It's an examination of the mentality of people who advocate social restructuring.
What state should I move to if I want
>Cheap housing + high speed internet
Someplace with <$200K houses that aren't small shacks. Also need internet because I "work from home".
>Gun freedoms and hunting
I have a concealed carry permit and quite a few firearms. Would like a plethora of game to hunt year round while /out/
>Secluded lakes where I can go hiking, fishing, and camping within a hour or two drive if not in backyard.
I never plan a hiking trip unless there's a lake or pond near that I can fish from.
Currently living in Virgnia and it's fucking disgusting here. All of the National Parks and Forests are usually flooded with college students and there's hardly any good fishing spots besides the big rivers which requires a boat.
>>708707
Northern Wisconsin is a great place if you don't mind winter. Otherwise maybe TN or northern Georgia? With both those places, you could still be relatively close to a big city and still be out in the boonies. Not sure about gun laws. But it always amazed me driving through TN how you are in wilderness and then 20min later you are in downtown Nashville.
>>708710
Is Wisconsin land cheap? Like say 10+ acres?
>>708713
Northern Wisconsin is all forests. If you can find a good chunk of land that isn't forest preserve, no way it can be that expensive.
>>708721
What about South Dakota or Washington? No state income tax there. Also Texas. Texas isn't really mountainous but it would seem like a great place to buy land.
>>708707
>mfw I live in Virginia
>mfw I love it here
It sounds like you need to make friends who have private land.
>>708725
I live in Texas. Land prices vary depending on region.. Out in the arid / semi-arid regions of West/Central TX land isn't too expensive.. but those areas are dry and rocky and the only trees that grow out there are scrubby mesquite and oak trees with lots of brush all over. Places with more rainfall, decent soil, and actual forests like North/East TX you're lucky to find any land for less than $2000/acre, and that's out in the sticks where you can't get any sort of water, sewer, or decent internet. Property taxes in TX also tend to be fairly high so if you're gonna own any sort of acreage then you'll need to figure out how to keep that acreage under a farm / ag / wildlife tax exemption.
> so this is what op post has come down too
> buy your land now
> no thought for the future, just me, me, me
I have no problem with that.
I have 40 acres.
I am thinking about the future.
I am >>704461
I project long term.
We are doomed.
>>708771
Yeah I was looking into taxes. I was thinking of just renting an apartment in the city and finding a state where I can travel 1-3 hours for a 3-5 day hunting/fishing camping trip once or twice a month. Washington sounds nice. Thinking of finding a place in the south where I can get no state income tax and then drive over a bridge to Oregon for shopping at no sales tax.
If you don't mind arid landscapes there's still plenty of /out/ to go to.
>>708806
Isn't Australia pretty restrictive about letting immigrants into their country? I always thought it was really hard for an American to legally move there if they had no college education or marketable skills.
>>708806
>full of deadly animals
>not allowed to carry a gun
No thanks.
>>708811
Nah, it's easy as shit to migrate here on work visas. Sans marketable skills, well if you're from the US you'd still probably have an easy time.
>>708811
> neet
> eewwww
Why would you be like that?
>>708815
A gun isn't really the defence you need against snakes and spiders. We don't have any large mammals that you would need one for.
>>708815
> b-but muh anti-deadly spyder shotgun
Ok.
>>708819
Yeah okay. Let me know how it goes fighting off a mammoth or giant bus bird with a stick.
>>708821
I still don't think a gun would help against cassowaries. Those things legitimately ambush people from behind trees.
>>708826
>tfw will never fight off vampires to save the Hex Girls and have sex with them
Australia really sucks. They must have paid Scooby Doo to hype the lace up. Zyzz is also dead so everybody is getting fat again.
>>708832
> Hex Girls
Tell me more? Do they /cgl/?
>>708841
They appear in a few Scooby Doo movies. Not anime so I never see it on /cgl/.
>>706572
You're an idiot if you believe that.
If you're baiting, good bait.
>>708843
Sorry, no anime fetish.
More into flesh and bleeding for girls.
>>704559
100% this. Japan is an example of the coming future of western countries.
The rise of feminism makes women disinterested in having a family and more concerned with having a job.
With the rise in VR, men will become more interesting in virtual means of a sexual relationship. It may be a good thing because the last thing the planet needs is more mouths to feed.
The thing I fear the most is that the only families that have multiple children are religious families, more so Christian and Islamic families, and God knows we don't need a rise in the population of those fuckers.
>>706964
>there
>their
>there
>their
The stupid, it hurts.
alot less dindus and everything will be fine
>>709016
>He is not good in my language
>His argument is therefore invalid
>>705419
>>708865
>Islamic families
This and other medieval scum.
These goatfuckers don't give a fuck about feminism, job and other western world's things. Until UN regularly sends humanitarian aid and they don't need to kill each other for food, the population of these locusts will be increase.
>>705742
>first link
>from '99
>some 1.3 billion more now
Ok.
>>705906
Yeah eugenics are the worst! Dysgenics on the other hand...
>>704559
>valuing plants and animals over your own race
Wtf is wrong with you people? The planet and biosphere are not going down. Global warming is bad, yes, but pave the fucking forests for all I care. Turn the savage wild into a park. Bioengineer the ecosystem for maximum carbon sequestering so we can build more mcmansions.
>>705884
Actually, you would, because you would need kids to plow tour field and wouldn't know a thing about morals because humans are apes and need to be educated.
>>704445
Nuke the Middle-East, India and Toronto back to the stone age, problem solved.
>>709471
3/10
you're getting there
>>709485
the problem is solved ifwe nuke India, China and the usa, the usa is the most idiot country in the world
>>709522
>shitskin detected
>>709522
No, Muslims are the biggest threat to world peace.
>>709582
Nah bloke the leaders are. Muzzies just being used. Aint no coordinated muzzie attack on the west brah
>>704445
>300 million are europeans who are living just fine
>350 are americans who again have plenty of resources
>350 are south americans doing just fine with plenty of resources
>1 billion are chinese who still live in caves
>the other 5 billion are africans whose population is entirely artifical and propped up by western aid
>western countries have stable or negative birthrates
>china has declining birthrates as well
>only nigger africa is growing and they are only growing because we keep fucking feeding them
overpopulation is a fucking myth and your dystopian libtard nightmare of mega cities will never fucking happen.
>>709701
Africa has 1.1 billion people, dumbfuck
>mfw arguing with catholic conservatives from huge families
>show them evidence of overpopulation
>"theres plenty of room left! I have over 100 acres!!"
>mfw they still don't believe in birth control or abortion
>"doesn't matter if the planet is fucked god said its a no-no"
>>709701
Thanks for playing
>>709708
>mfw if you live in an industrialized country, they're right and you're wrong
>>704445
>Soon all the planet will be cities, industries and mechanized farms.
What do you mean soon?
This already happened
Compared to what there used to be, there is almost nothing left
>>709704
In africa.
>>709710
>>704445
We are supposed to max out at 2050 around 9 billion people and then by 2100 be back down to 2 billion, but hey there's always war and/or super viruses
Thinking of moving to Canada once Trump gets elected and forces all of us white people to join his nazi army to kill all niggers and muslims. Where should I go?
>>709813
Back to Mexico.
For real though, the politics in a GOP primary look nothing like the politics of a general election.
Out of the last 6 presidential elections in the US, the Republicans have only won two, and one of those was a loss in the popular vote, all of them with stronger candidates than Trump.
>>709842
Never been to Mexico. If you're implying I'm Mexican, I am not. Also Mexicans aren't stealing shit. More Mexicans have been leaving this country than entering.
>>709843
Just memeing you, mate.
For real though, Clinton 2.0 is going to suck, but it's still going to suck less than living in countries that aren't American, and accept US immigrants.
>>705419
The exhausting of fossil fuels has been predicted since the 19th century about coal and since 1920s for oil. Your assumption is based on the oil supply being halted tomorrow, which simply won't happen. There's too much oil out there.
Economically speaking, oil is an unlimited resource, because when it's cost increases, a substitute or replacement will be taken more seriously, like retrofitted hydrogen fueled engines. The same type of panic arose when whaling was banned and everything relied on whale oil.
>>705559
Influenza san is far more likely.
>>705676
>Only 3% of the US population is engaged in agriculture
It's 2% now.
>>709701
Forgot about the 1 billion Muslims, and all those Indians. Asia as a whole has like 3 billion without counting Russia
>>709860
Yeah, but a lot of those are in China, where fertility rates are lower.
India itself has lowered the rate to 2.3, which is just above replenishment.
The real growth areas are countries like Indonesia or Nigeria.
>>704445
I can see the concrete slowly creeping, lord take me and mine before that comes
>>709471
>being this attached to the outmoded concept of 'race'
Hi, /pol/. Umm, I'm just gonna have to stop you there -- you could use a dose of smarts.
We are all one species. Are there variants, subspecies? Sure. Are any of them inherently better than the next? Not a fucking chance. All the differences evidenced among the peoples are byproducts of nurture, not nature -- with the exception of genetic defects, of course. Welcome to the Modern Age. I do hope you'll enjoy your stay here.
>>709962
So Asians seeming shorter is an optical illusion? Or niggers being black is a matter of diet and upbringing? By the way: define better and worse in a human context. As in, what would constitute another human being better or worse.
inb4 an example of "worse"
>>709471
>Global warming is bad
no it's freaking awesome
we are terraforming our own planet and for first time in human history we are affecting the weather.
we are in an ice age, which means in a coupe of thousand years 99% of the biosphere could be extinct because the ice will cover most of the planet. even warming earth a couple of degrees can stop this process and save biodiversity.
it's the most exciting and awesome stuff so far.
just don't overdo it i guess.
>>709582
What an obedient little sheep. Please, continue to relay this state sponsored propaganda. No need to think for yourself, big brother can do it for you!
>>710002
>we are terraforming our own planet
''Terraforming is the process of transforming a hostile environment into one suitable for human life. ''
What we are doing is the OPPOSITE. Carbon emissions, increased episodes of extreme weather including drought and flooding, desertification of land, species extinction, etc etc are all DETRIMENTAL to human life not beneficial
>for first time in human history we are affecting the weather.
Apart from we didn't INTEND to effect it. It wasn't our purpose to warm the world, its a side effect of our mentality towards growth, development, societal responsibility, and focus on economy and power.
>>710065
>''Terraforming is the process of transforming a hostile environment into one suitable for human life. ''
exactly a full blown ice age is pretty hostile to human life
>Carbon emissions, increased episodes of extreme weather including drought and flooding, desertification of land, species extinction, etc etc are all DETRIMENTAL to human life not beneficial
short term effects not what i'm really hyped about mostly blown out of proportion.
earth as a planet has a constantly changing weather just because old fucks complain about not being the same as in their childhood doesn't mean it's "wrong"
just red a bit about this glacial cycle thing and understand THERE WERE LONG PEROIODS OF TIME IN EARTHS EXISTENCE WHEN THERE WERE NOT EVEN SNOWCAPS ON THE POLES NADA
we are in an ice age and it probably gonna be a lot less severe than it was ever before thanks to us as a species.
>>705864
This. There is no such thing as underpopulation.
1 billion people would be more than enough. Shit, 100 Million people would be enough.
>>710284
Okay, go ahead. You first.
>>710002
>>710077
We are not in an ice age and we won't be for a while because of the rate of fucking shit up we're at right now. Humans have in roughly 2 centuries cocked up the natural cycle, and while affecting the planet on such a massive scale is inspiring it's also not what we intended. A full blown ice age is hostile to human life but so is our current rate of global warming. While our existence and effects are really short term, that doesn't make it suck any less for us as we slide towards the next major event in humanity's future.
>>710077
You're being obtuse. We aren't polluting the atmosphere (+ everything else) for the purpose of negating an ice age.
Also, I don't think you understand what an ice age necessarily means. It DOESN'T mean whole world is -20c and everything dies off.
There is no problem with ice ages and ice age cycles, what we're talking about here is something other than the natural cycle the planet goes through. What we're talking about is unnecessary detrimental effect to the world which one day, maybe not today, will fail under the ever increasing burden of dealing with our waste.
>earth as a planet has a constantly changing weather just because old fucks complain about not being the same as in their childhood doesn't mean it's "wrong"
Actually this is one of the root causes of lack of understanding in terms of climate change. Because individuals have no reference to previous generations habitats they take what they grow up with as normal and don't realise the impact already made.
It's one of the core reasons cited as to why societies collapse, such as easter island.
Let me assume you're not some 15 year old autist..
Do you have kids? Do you care about the legacy you leave them? Would you be happy leaving them indebted by millions of dollars? Probably not, so why do you not mind about leaving them a stinking turd of an earth?
Ultimately, you can make whatever choices you want. But for all your MUH FREEDOMS (you're american right?) you have an uncanny ability to circumvent the fact that by being complicit to all the pollution you have infringing on your neighbours, offspring, and any future generations 'freedoms'.
tl;dr I always have the time to try and educate people for the sake of the human race and this planet, but if you're too bigoted to listen I can only hope you die young before you've spread your filth too far.
>>710290
>We are not in an ice age
look up the definition dude!
permanent ice cover on the poles == ice age.
what we did (or not did it's yet to be proven) is nothing compared to the normal climate changes of the earth. but maybe just maybe we increased the average temperature enough that it does not go into fully freezing up on us.
after the ice age ends i guess we should look into how to keep the temperature down for a change. but that is tens of thousands of years or more.
>>710290
>An ice age is a period of long-term reduction in the temperature of Earth's surface and atmosphere, resulting in the presence or expansion of continental and polar ice sheets and alpine glaciers. Within a long-term ice age, individual pulses of cold climate are termed "glacial periods" (or alternatively "glacials" or "glaciations" or colloquially as "ice age"), and intermittent warm periods are called "interglacials". Glaciologically, ice age implies the presence of extensive ice sheets in the northern and southern hemispheres.[1] By this definition, we are in an interglacial period—the Holocene—of the ice age that began 2.6 million years ago at the start of the Pleistocene epoch, because the Greenland, Arctic, and Antarctic ice sheets still exist.[2]
by definition we live in an ice age
>>710315
>There is no problem with ice ages and ice age cycles, what we're talking about here is something other than the natural cycle the planet goes through.
the natural cycle ends in almost all the earth surface being covered in miles thick ice. no thank you maybe you want mammoths back i like the current biodiversity.
>do you not mind about leaving them a stinking turd of an earth?
not what's happening it's all good so far except for the garbage issues. i mean the entire fucking ocean is full of pet bottles i would do something about that. less worried about the temperature life will adapt to that. long term everything man made will be gone sure, but the future generations will have it ugly with garbage and toxins.
>>704445
Yeah, so?
>>704445
>Globalization will cause a global collapse due to nations becoming overly dependent on one another and having no self-sufficiency.
It's literally the Dam of Holland. Take out one stone, the entire fuckin' thing comes tumbling down.
>>706319
Cut the pursuit of luxury out and replace it with self-sufficiency. Suddenly, you're much better off than most with the same job.
>>704461
>one blended genetically perfect blended master race
>race mixing
>master race
That's not how it works. Race mixing is to create a single race of idiots that are easily controlled.
>>704660
>that spaghetti resistor
Ausbros, when will Autumn actually start? I'm not enjoying this hottest start to Autumn ever recorded.
>>710661
"divide and conquer"
it's not how it works usually unity makes people harder to control.
>>709996
Better: an individual who lives their life with a sense of purpose, improving the lives of those around said individual.
Worse: an individual who cares only for their own well-being, sometimes at the expense of others' quality of life.
Are either of these predisposed by genetic makeup? Nope. It's all about how an individual was raised, and his/her life experiences. Through these things, world-view is formed.
If I had to hazard a guess as to your past, it might well include a broken home. I feel pity for you, but it's never too late to change who you are -- it just takes time and effort.
>>711012
But your definitions are completely arbitrary. Obviously a sane answer to the question is another question: "Better at what, exactly?"
You must surely allow for multiple answers to the questions, different views etc..? Or is it your way or the highway?
You have absoluteley no idea if co-operation or ruthlessness or anything else has genetic reasons or to what extent. Culture is made in society. Societies are made of people. People are made in instruction by DNA. DNA is hereditary.
I don't think you even realize how inane you're being. The nature vs nurture debate is hardly resolved, and ESPECIALLY not in the favor of nurture as you seem to think.
And a little bit of speculative ad-hominem at the end there. What an ass. You know nothing about me, I'm not even the guy you were talking to before.
>>711009
youd think but the goal is to turn europe into a single slave race.
>>704644
?
>>705419
What is renewable energy
>>704445
peak oil already happend in 2006
we hit the +1°C climate mark for 4 - 6 months now
the monetary system is only working because the central banks are printing money like hell...
what disturbs me the most : peak phosphorus in approx 30 years - imagine 9 billion people and no more cheap fertilizer
i'll bet at the end of the 21st century we turned back to living conditions of late 19ths
>>704445
>Soon all the planet will be cities, industries and mechanized farms.
You gravely underestimate just how big the world is.
>>711502
call back when we burnt all uranium and yet to develop fusion reactors
i'm not worried much about this resource shit or the climate. i'm much more worried how tightly packed we live and how fast transportation is with no quarantine periods
>>711475
Renewable energy is only made possible and can only be maintained with fossil fuel products
>>711387
you paranoid fucks are hilarious lol
there's motivation behind filling europe with refugees but that's because it's cheap labor you stupid fuck
you guys are too fucking thick to realize people in power have a lot more pressing concerns that fucking engineering a slave race by random chance. i hope you kill yourself
>>712102
>it's cheap labor you stupid fuck
yeah and a couple of half blood rape babies are just even cheaper labor if you think about it
>>712102
No Its not for cheap labour.Its for when habbenins happen they stay habbenin
>>711502
>we hit the +1°C climate mark for 4 - 6 months now
El Nino.
>>704445
>Climate change, already too late to prevent
>Wars over increasingly scarce resources
>Global food system collapse starts around 2040s
>Euro refugee crisis times 15, and it's global
>More wars, famine. Disease runs rampant as we have no resources to develop new vaccines
OP, I don't think we have to worry.
>>704445
I'll have killed myself before then #edge
I don't even like occasionally being around people, I'd go even more nuts if there was nowhere to escape to.
>>704445
Bio engineer Giant redwoods to be larger and grow faster, much, much faster.
>>712381
>muh food collapse
By that time I will have an off-grid aquaponics farm on a cheap island property, I'm ok with this.
>>712978
>island property with arable land
>cheap
pick one and only one
>>712981
>aquaponics
>needing arable land
Also you can buy huge properties on islands in the pacific northwest for under 30K, not sure why everyone thinks they're expensive.
The final solution to this problem of population is this, and it's working damn effectively.
High density cities,
The empowerment of women,
The shift away from traditional gender roles,
The support of disadvantaged groups from lower socioeconomic status,
And the improvement of healthcare for all.
People don't seem to be wanting to suffer through children for those reasons and all.
Oh, and something like anime helps a load.
>>704588
More like 8 to 7, if I recall correctly, though the problem is that not all survive always, or so the attitude goes.
>>704667
What the hell, do you people not see it? A damn good reason to suffer through more than 2 children is so that AT LEAST 1 SURVIVES.
>>705472
This guys has the solution.
>>705419
Hate to break it to you, but oil and nat gas aint gonna run out. Not in our lifetimes anyway.
>>704799
anon is right though. At least for a lot of places. Not sure about Africa but certainly in India it's becoming less common
>>705419
>If you put ten mice in a room with unlimited food they will breed until the room explodes.
But that's wrong
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM
>>714552
is this the video where they give mice coke? that's probably the coolest thing i've ever seen.
>>712989
I'm gonna need a link
>>714555
No, it shows mice who're given food and ample space to study population growth
>>713724
If we keep burning at this rate, then sea levels are gonna get stupid within our lifetimes.
>>704644
Not space, iirc, but The Wanting Seed by Anthony Burgess touches on similar themes.
>>710833
I am. Fucking hate the cold.
>>709708
>it's the white people that need to have less children
Enough of this
>>713643
>The support of disadvantaged groups from lower socioeconomic status,
>And the improvement of healthcare for all.
How the fuck do either of these help stop overpopulation you dunce
>>714786
I believe he is assuming negroes and spics can be raised up to white status at which point they will decline as we are.
Does not appear to be necessary for American negroes.
>>714794
Personally I'm European and think we should just stop sending those "people" aid and keep them the fuck out of our country
>>705906
>genetics don't exist because muh feels
I've got some snake oil for you. It's real cheap, only $100 an ounce, and it will make you less of a faggot.
>>704445
To be fair, industrialization cuts down the population. Most of the population is concentrated in cities and third world countries. Which is good for the environment.
>>704445
Still singing that tune are we?
>>704625
>Posts middle class black family reunion with aunts, uncles, and cousins
>>717169
40 years is nothing in the grand scheme
just wait till there are another 3 billion people on earth, and nearly every one is gonna be a nig nog
>>712978
What are you going to do when someone comes for your shit?
>>714552
>Dr Calhound found that the mics could not deal with the repeated contact of so many individuals.
So they are just like us then.
>>717677
>drop hydrogen bombs on Africa and Middle-East
>turn entire area into giant park
Problem solved
>>708314
just get her to work out constantly and tell her it's good for the baby (which it is)
>>719993
>thinking this will ever happen
You're going to be very disappointed with what the future holds anon.
>>708819
>no large mammals you would need a gun for
What are Lebs for 500, Alex?
>>704471
More like a nightmare.
That' SEVEN percent of the total population.
Think about that.
That means for every 14 people you interact with, there would be one.
That means there's not enough people to run competing businesses.
People like to pretend like the world population was 500 million just a few centuries ago, but the truth is we have no idea how populated MOST of the planet was until the last 100-150 years.
Realistically, the world hasn't had that small a population since the days of Columbus, where literally HALF THE WORLD was undiscovered.
So, considering we have so much more land to be dispersed in, itd be comparable to the population distribution of the early crusades.
That was horrible.
and, like other anons have said, it IS slowing down.
And we're becoming more and more efficient at using resources, and replacing resources.
Honestly, the next 50 years will be far better for it than the last 50 years as far as resources.
I've seen some scientists basically say that 12 billion is our tipping point, but it's always hard to tell since the increase causes more urgency and that causes the development of resource-extending technology.
The /out/doors will be there long after we're all gone, don't worry.
>>704445
i've just begun my first attempt at brewing mead, and while stirring the yeast i realised something, by the time the stuff is ready, it has been there for like millenia for the yeast, and it's at the point that the yeast has used all the sugar in the jar, all of the resources in their tiny jar world, that i will filter the stuff, killing all the yeast and have a drink. how fucking scary is that, what if we're just yeasts in some gigantic jar just spending time making that delicious co2 and water from the oil in the ground and the plants around us, and there is some gigantic thing waiting out there until we've used all of our resources and this universe is ready to drink
>>720101
Well that'll be at least a few billion years from now and I'm sure humans won't last that long so we don't have to worry about it.
>>720107
but what if we ARE the yeast? what if our piss is the alcohol that makes the universe such a delightful drink?
>>720110
Well then we'll have to make some huge advances in terraforming, FTL travel, and population growth before we start affecting anything other than our own little planet. It'll be hundreds or thousands of years at least before humans will even colonize a planet outside of our own little solar system (if ever), and eons to colonize a significant part of our little galaxy.
>>720122
have you ever opened a little packet of bread yeast? all kinds of little grains that each contain milions of bacteria, what if they are the planets? and every planet in the universe is a little grain
>>720125
If that's true, in a metaphorical sense, then we'll never know, nor will we have any way of possibly figuring that out. Even if we did figure out that something like that was true, we're so tiny and insignificant that the knowledge would do us absolutely no good.
>>720101
They all die from the alcohol before you filter it.
