I'm a Kansas native, 19, and gonna be staying in Colorado, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico for camping/hiking/fishing.
Does anyone regularly carry on them when hiking/camping?
>nb4 go to /k/
>>701468
Well you should carry something bigger than a Makarov thats for sure.
Get a rifle m8
>>701468
[x] I am a baby backyard camper
>>701468
Canadian here. I carry a rifle while /out/ since you never know what animals or weirdos you'll run into
>>701485
>Makarov
Please let this be bait.
Also, Maks are fine anyway. It wouldn't be my first choice for bears, but it works good on skinwalkers and dogs.
>inb4 ATF
>>701468
Is this thread for me?
I live in Arizona and typically carry my makarov (yes I know pic is a walther) in a low profile hip holster. I forget the brand but its really slim and i barely notice its there.
Makarov is more than okay for the majority of animals or people that might do you harm. Unless you're up north arizona dont have much in the way of large predators.
Colorados a different story, though you should still be fine with even a full sized .40.
Rifles are mighty fine if you are in the middle of nowhere, but are unnecessary otherwise and will weird people who aren't gun folk out.
>>701515
Coloradoan here, 9 is fine, not much need for a .40 or .45. If you are bringing a pistol and expecting bears go 10mm or a rifle.
>>701468
When I'm not on provincial/national parks, I take a 12 gauge with a 14 inch barrel with me.
The plan is to eventually get a .375 H&H with express sights.
AZ, everyday.
A light and short (18" barrel) 12 gauge single shot everywhere legal
Mainly for small game with birdshot so I've got something to clean and eat over the campfire that I didn't bring with me
Though, I keep some slugs in the ammo carrier just in case for defense
>>701468
Nope, never. Once you go deep enough innawoods, there aren't any people and the animals are afraid of you.
The only dangerous thing about camping is the drunk in the next campsite playing with his handgun.
I usually bring my zastava. More for plinking or drug farmers than animals in South Dakota.
>>701468
I carry a glock 19....it's my every day carry, so it's just natural to have it with me. For animals I bring my mossberg 590a1, loaded with slugs and a few hand fulls of other loads.
>>702490
Let me reword that.
It's loaded with slugs, I also bring along a few hand fulls of dif type loads.
>>702493
> reads the same to me
You're good.
Az. Here i carry a 9mm browning high power pre war
Arizonan here i carry a 9mm high point. Great weapon by the way for all the haters
>>701468
MT, I don't carry anything if I'm not hunting. North America doesn't have any dangerous wildlife.
>>701468
How is the Walther btw? Mak looks fun too, especially for Inna woods carry
I only take a pocketknife or maybe a walking stick. Might start plinking carry
>>702593
>North America doesn't have any dangerous wildlife.
>>702622
Ok, North America doesn't have any dangerous wildlife that will attack unprovoked and isn't easily avoided.
>>702593
Also MT here. I carry a sidearm for the sheer joy of it, unless I'm on a trail close to town where I'm going to get weird looks.
Rifle if I'm heading out for a couple days into a wilderness area or something, which to be honest is probably a once a year thing for me, if that.
>>702499
Sweet. Been awake for three days now. So my shit sounds all retarded to me.
>>702821
What are cougars and grizz for $400, Alex
>>701489
What province?
>>702853
black bears, moose, rattle snakes,
>>701468
Oregon here. I usually have some handguns just for target shooting when I'm chilling on BLM land. Actually holstering as I walk around? Sometimes I'll do that with my M&P40 or my SAA.
>>702862
Depending on the area of the country, I'd be more worried about water moccasins over rattle snakes. Was sitting near a small lake once in my Jeep when a moccasin came out of the water and struck my Jeep unprovoked. The fuckers have no fear.
I CC a CZ82 daily iwb, so it usually goes with me on most hikes. All the local states, it is legal to cc in state parks and wildlife preserves if you have a CC permit. Have I ever had to use it? Nah, but it still rides with every time.
>>701847
Pussy
>>703028
Are you always this retarded?
>>703028
>none of those randomly attack humans
>>701468
Guns are a fucking trend, toys for manchildren, cucks, and pussies. Your odds of ever need one are nil, the rest of a time is a liability because most gun owners never learn proper safe use.
>>701847
This. Once you're miles from the road, your odds of seeing anyone drops to about zero. And most people /out/ are friendly, paranoid fucks with guns ruin the experience.
>>703184
Oh man, I'd hate for you to date my son/daughter.
So now I'm curious, what's with your hate for guns? Did your nig nog child get shot by a cop for dindu'ing around?
>>702853
If a cougar was sprinting at you, your handgun wouldn't do shit. You're not a crack shot, you'd get fucking eaten.
As for bears, bear spray would fuck a bear far more than a handgun. Shoot it in the head and you're in business, anywhere else and you've just made it mad.
>>703215
The typical "I know nothing about guns and live in a fantasy world which is why I don't like them" post.
>>703215
>just lay down and die, its not like you can do anything about it
>>701468
I'm from Utah, near the Colorado border. In the mountains or desert pretty much all the time for work, often for weeks to months. Never felt the need to carry, and frankly you'd be better off with bear mace in a pinch anyway.
>>701847
Pretty much this. The wild animals in this area are afraid, and retards are are always the biggest danger. I can see that many of such people are in this thread. You don't need a gun. This isn't Canada or Alaska.
>>703268
As opposed to
>I like guns so I live in a fantasy world where I pretend everything is gonna kill me.
Don't shoot your foot off fingerfucking the triger next time you see a squirrel, pussy.
>>701485
i'm not even a gun owner and know you're retarded - read the logo man, you need even need to click on the image
did your dad never show you james bond as a kid?
>>703056
Yes the person who can go /out/ without needing a handgun is a pussy. Lol. Projecting much ?
>>703457
Could be a Bersa Thunder, but no you are right. That gun should be recognizable on sight.
>>703215
> If a cougar was sprinting at you, your handgun wouldn't do shit.
Sure it would, it'd give you a chance. Which is more than you have when you're packing nothing at all.
Most animals won't attack you, true, but then neither will most people and yet we still feel the need to write laws, etc.. Take your tripe elsewhere and stop trying to justify your state's shitty laws by pretending that a person will never need a gun.
>>701468
I carry a Bulgarian Makarov because I like the way it looks and I live in New Hampshire/Vermont so I only have to worry about Moose and Black Bear. My biggest threat is homeless heroin addicts and liberals concerned I can't carry a gun because Obama said guns are bad.
>>703447
So he's a pussy for not going hand to hand with a mountain lion?
You do realize that you're the only one here suggesting somebody grabs their gun when they see a squirrel, right?
>>703640
>NH/VT
Do you have a radio?
>>703028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIgvCUXxh1Y
>>701468
The 21st century has bred a completely unpredictable degree of autism.
>>701468
Where at in KS?
I grew up in fucking Randall, moved to Oregon a few years ago.
.44 Rem Mag
>>703688
>show hands so moose will think I mean no harm
>>703686
In my car??
>>704112
this anon knows style
>>701468
Carry what?
>>703181
Where are you from? Asking to avoid the incumbent retard populace.
>>704170
I mean like an amateur radio or something. I'm in the same area.
>>704173
Thank you, anon.
Bianchi leather, Hogue coco bolo custom grips on a Dan Wesson 5" fixed bbl.
Always will be one of my favs.
>2552-536
>not carrying an SKS while going inna woods
Dyeob?
>>701468
Who doesn't?
>>701468
I've occasionally wished I had a gun while camping, but mostly to have a backup plan against the mentally-ill people with guns you occasionally meet out in the wilderness.
My boss said that any handgun powerful enough to reliably stop an angry bear would be too much of a pain in the ass to carry on a hike. From what I've seen, it seems pretty accurate.
Also, keep in mind that carrying on nationally-protected lands is typically illegal.
>>704524
> pia to carry
Well that depends on how you carry it, doesn't it?
No pia here. Maybe your boss doesn't know everything?
>>704532
We were on national land and hiking long distances with heavy packs. I guess if you're in bumblefuck nowhere strolling around in your underwear and cowboy boots, open-carry would work fine?
>>701847
best place to murder someone is where there are no witnesses.
Usually carry my .357 if I'm going to be out overnight, otherwise I don't bother.
Sometimes I only take the bear spray if I'm trying to go ultralight.
>>705481
GP100?
what about a spear?
>>704345
Nah m8, I'm not that autistic yet. I want to get into it. There's some dude who lives in town who has a huge radio setup based on all the antennas coming out of his house.
>>705483
> broken in
Just needs more sun!
>>705598
yep, 6".
It's a little heavy for serious backpacking, but I still like carrying it.
>>705759
My town begins with a B, what's yours?
>>705842
> will you friend me
The post.
>>703364
What if you live in Canada though..
>I carry to protect myself from animals
I carry a handgun not for bears, wolves, coyotes, or hogs. I carry because of idiots in this thread that think these wild animals are such a big threat. An armed idiot that honestly is afraid of these wild animals is 100x more dangerous with their imagination than any wild animal. I've seen faggots in this thread literally go defcom 6 at the sound of a twig falling from a tree.
>That's a bear oh shit lemme grab my gun and fire warning shots
Meanwhile it was just the wind blowing a twig off a tree.
Carry all day so I don't see the point in stopping when I'm /out/.
Usually my Hi-Power. Am looking at getting a wheelgun though. Either an 1873 Cattleman in .45 Colt or a used .357 smith.
I'm more worried about some methed out timber nigger that wandered off the res than wild animals. I've had a couple of run ins with those fucks before.
>>703364
>you don't need a gun
Well, aren't you the omniscient one.
Yes, most times you'll never need one, but there's always a chance of needing one.
No harm in bringing one along.
Same with any survival gear you pack. Sure, it's shit to lug it around, but it's just in case.
>>706176
>timber niggers
Yeah I'm sure they love getting called that after all the shit that's been done to them.
>have your land stolen
>your women raped
>slaughtered senselessly
>trail of tears
>now told you can have little patches of your land back but you're essentially a slave now
>get called a nigger by some entitled white kid
Yeah go fuck yourself.
>>706140
Swanzey?
>>706333
>>701503
>it works on skinwalkers
Skinwalkers can travel in packs though. Best have white ash on those bullets and shoot to kill.
>>706333
look ma, a timber nigger
>>706357
Fuck no, more north, think lake and mountain.
>>701468
im planning on going on a 3 day hike in the emigrant wilderness when spring comes. i will be taking my 9mm then. i checked the laws and it's 100% legal to carry (loaded and concealed even) and discharge firearms in national forests.
ive never carried on a day hike though.
>>706164
> afraid of autism
> better act autistic
I see what you're doing.
>>702554
mah-nigga
>>706489
No they dont...they travel by themselves....in fact, there is no such thing as skinwalker....you can go into the woods with no gun.
>>706164
Defcon is a descending scale and only goes up to five, but don't let that get in the way of your fantasy.
>>706176
> mfw there are trees on the Rez
>>706164
> def com 6
> com 6
> com
> 6
Defensive Condition 1..5.
You aren't doing it right, anon.
>>703503
>oh look at me I don't need protection
>I'm not stupid or a cuck who's afraid of defending myself.
>y-you're the real cuck
Do I need a conceal carry permit to carry a pistol with me on National Forests for protection?
I don't carry a firearm for protection against people. Most hikers in my area are treehugging hipsters. You know, those white people with dreadlocks and patchy beards. I carry because we had a pack of wolves come in our camp one time a few years ago and one bit a friend. If it wasn't for another pal carrying a Glock G17, who knows how worse it could have gone. I also have a ton of run ins with bears trying to snoop around my camp at night and firing my pistol in the air always scares them away. But you could always just bring an air horn and bear spray.
>>701485
>makarov
>clearly says walther
>doesnt have dick grips
>>706675
hipsters & hippies are the absolute worst watch your kit anon, I caught those fuckers trying to steal my shit multiple times.
>>706680
Really? I've never had issues with young millennial hikers. They're nice and always offer food or water but they are god damn annoying wanting to stand there and talk when you got 7 more miles to go and less than 2 hours to sunset. It's the old degenerate drunks from campsites that wonder into the woods trying to steal my shit. I now try to stay at least a few miles from any campsite or trail.
>>706592
Shit got so real, that a new defcom was formed.
>>706675
>Glock G17
Wanna know how I know you're full of shit?
>>706333
So when did they stop calling injuns prairie niggers?
>>706333
Go back where you came from faggot, 4chan isn't for you
>>706671
Not in the whole of Arizona.
>>705772
Nice wood scales!
I got the micarta ones on mine.
>>701468
and now I want a CZ82.
It's like a mak but double stack and a more awkward thumb release.
>>702554
>Arizonan here i carry a 9mm high point.
Carbine or pistol?
>>702593
>North America doesn't have any dangerous wildlife.
That is untrue. There are moose, bears, humans, and any singing insects you happen to be allergic to.
![IMG_0963[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JcerkfL.jpg "IMG_0963[1].jpg")
I usually carry a pistol or two.
In my truck is a Browning Hi-Power, always loaded, on the trail I usually carry my 1911, Beretta 92, or S&W Model 19 357mag.
This is my trail rifle. I built it from a Upper kit I got through Sportsman Guide for $400 and then picked up a complete upper at a gun show from a friend for $200. At the same I also picked up a Leapers 4x power scope and mounts onto the rail. It's light, breaks down, and affordable to shoot.
>>703688
That's a bad example, and clearly provoked. There's plenty of videos of bull moose charging people.
>>701847
Please do this. The planet's population deserves to go down a few notches.
>>702821
>Black bears won't climb up trees to rip you to shreds
>cougars won't jump you from behind and kill you
>wolves won't surround you and nibble tenderly on your balls
Wew lad
>>701468
Always.
>>709571
I worry more about moose than any of those
>>709571
>>Black bears won't climb up trees to rip you to shreds
Buddy got cornered in a tree by a black bear during dear season. Had to shoot the basted as it was climbing up to get him.
Fuck bears.
>>709694
*Bastard. Thanks phone.
I do, usually just a 357 but depending on where I am I'll carry something different. Pic was just for fun, there were some coyotes out there but that was about it.
>>707985
Pistol
>>706671
Or west virgina
>>703684
Haha
Man, you're such a little punk bitch
>>709983
Ooh, wonderful comeback.
Only took you a week to think of it too!
>>709987
Probably different guy, hombre
>>701486
[x] I am going to get anally fucked by a moose.
>>703184
>Guns are a trend
W E W L A D
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>>701468
I do but, thankfully have never had to use it. You never know what your going to come up on innawoods.
>>704524
>carrying on nationally-protected lands is typically illegal.
Not true even in National Parks you ca carry if you have a Concealed Carry Permit and the state allows CC.
>>706333
>some entitled white kid
Who you calling white, whitey.
>>706671
Not in NC if you oc.
>>706535
>heading innawoods without a gun
>>704524
How does it feel to be so wrong after writing so much?
>>703028
Spotted the white guy who thinks he has animal magnetism
>>703184
Yeah all those pussy frontiersmen explorers and their guns.
>>706333
Jesus Christ you fucking faggot go kill yourself, we didnt do that to them. Because I was born 20 years ago. And I'm Italian. Your white guilt won't work on me you fucking hipster "lumbersexual" faggot.
>>701468
I always carry when /out/. Not because I feel like I really need to or anything, but because I have the firearms so I might as well. A firearm is a great survival tool, and while they'll typically be one of the heavier items in your pack, the utility and security they add is well worth it in my opinion.
Nothing like being deep innawoods or innamountains with a rifle in your pack or slung over your shoulder.
>>701468
865 here. I carry when I am /out/. We have black bears around here but they are pussies. The real threat in these parts is wild dogs, hogs and fuck boy hillbillies. And fuck not having a ranged weapon when fucking with any of those three.
>>714426
>fuck boy hillbillies
truly, man is the most dangerous game
>>705477
You sound like you live in a city.
>>701847
I agree anon. I have hiked, paddled and ridden hundreds of miles in the woods and never felt threatened of anything. That being said, I'm going backpacking in Alaska in a month and am bringing a .357
I'm a gun owner and hunter, but I legitimately think bear spray is a better defensive choice than a firearm while innawoods. What the fuck are you going to do, shoot a grizzly with your .45 and expect it to stop charging?
Shooting that bear (who was probably bluffing) is just guaranteeing that you get mauled, and guaranteeing that he will decide you're a big enough threat to kill.
Bear spray on the other hand will turn any animal the fuck around pretty quick. That shit annihilates their senses. This is more effective than hitting them with whats essentially a shot of adrenaline.
When I'm out hunting with a high caliber rifle (loaded and in my hand), I STILL carry a can of spray on my hip just in case I come across a bear.
>>716195
Ppl have killed full grown grizzly with a single shot with a 45. Learn to google you stupid fagget.
>>701770
Ditto this
Carry a .357 wheelgun everday.
Somedays I carry a .44mag
>>703184
Found the jealous europoor
>>716345
>B.b..but people killed grizzlies..
Yeah, but they don't reliably do so, bear spray and other safety measures such as bells and shit are far more effective than carrying a fucking rifle around all the time
>>716401
We'll see how effective a fucking bell is compared to a rifle when a bear comes at you. Fucking moron.
>>716415
Different anon but,
>Not carrying bells, bear spray, and a gun
Fucking retard
No scary animals where I go /out/, but you never know when some intelligent psychopath serial killer or group of drunken aggressive rednecks will try to kill you.
>>717119
See this is what I'm saying. Again, bears around here are nancies. It's the fucking cranked out hicks you gotta worry about. Even if wold dogs and hogs are fairly common, I am way more concerned with humans that I am with the wild life.
This thread makes me want a gun. Every time i go /out/ i wish i had one, then i get home and forget.
Ive never even touched a gun. What do?
>>701468
Yea i stay strap
>>717739
Any friends or family have guns?
>>717754
My gf's uncle has a few, but he lives 1500 miles away. Literally nobody else i know has one.
t. sheltered cityfag
Bear spray for bears. Pistol for people. Not concerned about either but better safe than sorry.
>>717739
Watch some gun safety videos, make the rules an instinct and buy one. There are plenty of resources online. Just remember the gun safety rules ALL THE TIME
>>717891
Where are you located?
>>704510
GET OUT OF HERE STALKER!!
>>701468
In glorious Utah you may carry anything you wish. And openly at that. Welcome brother, only freedom awaits, come Uintas, come Wasatch, come Zion. Get a battle rifle, and do battle with the elements.
>>717953
Milwaukee
>>716195
>I legitimately think bear spray is a better defensive choice than a firearm
Is your belief evidence based? Sincere question.
>>718186
Not the guy you replied to, but I've been told (Can't for the life of me remember where) that it's better to "spray them because that will blind their senses, making them scared rather than putting a .357's worth of adrenaline and pissed off in them"
Made sense to me at the time.
Only for people.
>>718194
This is true. Especially for those big fuck bears. Unless you are a cracks shot while under the pressure of a giant murderous beast charging madder than fuck at you, most pistol rounds will just make that bastard more madder than fuck.
>>718194
This, also it sprays absolute terror from 30 feet away. Its better than a shotgun and blasting that shit towards a charging bear. You better be a calm mother fucker to drop a charging bear in one shot because that's all you'll get off before its on top of you.
>>718276
eeeexxactly.
Shout out from another Kansas native.
Currently in Fl. Everybody here is such a selfish asshole on a good day. I miss people striking up conversation in line at the store, or neighbors that actually cared about your family and looked out for eachother, etc...
ANYWAY - realistically you wont need to kill a bear most likely, and if one does get curious firing a 9mm into it or even into the air is going to scare the shit out of it most likely. I personally conceal carry because if I go camping in a remote area you never know what could happen so why not play it safe? literally no reason not to. Alternatively, if I am camping in a more family orientated area, like a spring or something I still conceal carry because you never know. Only thing with that is if you are going swimming or something you need to be sure you can discretely get it into your car and keep it locked up. I wouldnt trust random people to not go into my tent while I was away if they caught me printing while I was walking around or whatever.
My family always said this:
"what is the man who carries around his gun afraid of?"
"absolutely nothing"
>>704524
>but mostly to have a backup plan against the mentally-ill people with guns you occasionally meet out in the wilderness
y...you're completely serious.... aren't you?
This is why America cant have nice things.
>>719072
"What is the man who carries his gun afraid of?"
"Other people's cocks."
FTFY
>>701485
Hiking up a mountain with a rifle sucks, get a large caliber handgun.
>>719086
le peepee meemee XD
Mauser hsc, cause I like it and I think it looks cool.
>>701468
I’ve had a concealed weapon license for years and carry all the time because… why not?
That said, being in Michigan, the only dangerous critter we have to worry about is black bears and 99.9% of the time it’ll run away long before you get anywhere near it.
Dangerous humans are more of a concern, though admittedly I’ve never had anyone ever give me any kinda shit while camping or hunting but then again, never say never and if someone were aggressive towards me, I’m prepared.
Barring state laws, there is absolutely no reason not to own a gun (several in fact) and carry it wherever and whenever possible.
>>701485
>makarov
>when it's clearly a glock
>>719958
besides native mountain crackheads.
its the 1% of black bears that will not stop till you or it is dead. no playing dead. no black pepper spray. meal time.
Canada, specifically Ontario, I carry a Mossberg 500 when I'm in Crown Land, but its because my area has lots of bears. I've only encountered a bear once and used bear spray on it. I doubt I'll actually use the shotgun but it's still fun to carry around.
>>709993
>N-no bully, plz!!
>>718276
Goooodd thing that a revolver packs 5 more where that came from, and burns more than your pussy spice-spray.
>>701468
if you are not deep a gun would be a good last line of defense if a fed bear wants to kill you to death
>>701485
that's a FAMAS idiot
.357 ain't gonna cut it in Alaska mate. You'll want a .44 mag, or even more ideally a shotun with slugs or a rifle.
A .357 might work on a brown if you are rocking full power buffalo bore loads or summat but there's no reason to have your firearm be a might work since it should be your last resort.
Training/avoidance techniques, then bear spray if possible, and if you have to shoot you want to be sure it's going down.
>>721600
Upvoted and reblogged
EDIT: (trigger warning: used the word "up")
>>718186
Kind of. I base it off of experiences I've had shooting bears while hunting.
I've lined up perfect shots where the bear was stationary and unaware that I was there. I blasted a giant fucking hole into that bears vitals with a hand loaded 30-06. That same bear ran a good 150-200 yards before it dropped dead.
Think about that scenario. I had an easy shot in a controlled situation, and the bear was still able to cover some serious ground after being hit.
Now think about the scenario where you're face to face with a charging bear. Even if you DO manage to shoot it in a lethal area, that bear will still have plenty of life in him to finish mauling your ass. He's just going to die on top of you.
Go watch bear hunting videos and form your own opinion. A sidearm isn't going to do shit in the woods.
I'll take my chances with bear spray.
>>703184
>Guns are a fucking trend
You mean history books are a fucking trend -- one that ended whatever year you learned to read.
>>701468
I do, but it's mostly for people protection than animals. I also just enjoy shooting so I always try to get some in whenever I'm out. Aside from that, if you're going way out into nowhere, a gun is good to have for survival purposes even if you aren't carrying it on your body. If for some reason you're worried about bear attacks, it's better than nothing but I would agree with satan's disciple on this one >>721666.
>>703184
>Guns are a fucking trend
Your average libtard's hero, Paul Krugman, said the same thing about the internet you cuck.
I usually carry my 1950's 870 Wingmaster. Super reliable and I can use it hunt small game up to deer, as well as personal defense.
Why not a shotgun?
>>721825
heavy
bulky
Hey guys, quick question for ya...
Are a few .44 Magnum shots enough to kill anything in North America that may want to come at you? What about a few .45 shots? I'm thinking of picking up a rifle and a handgun ( both in .44 or .45 ) for defense. I'm also considering a .30 carbine for the task as well but wouldn't want to spend the extra money on rebuilding a surplus m1 or repro m1.
>>722248
>What about a few .45 shots?
Colt or ACP?
>>722289
for the sake of knowledge break down both ACP and Colt to me, please.
>>722248
Not a bison.
