Whats some things i need for a good bug out bag im kinda broke but so far i got a 9mm hi point some water purification tablets a camel pack rope and 100 rds of 9mm ammo and a axe any other stuff i need.
mylar space blankets. can be used as sheet or to line shelter and deflect heat.
fire starter kit.
some paracord
poncho/tarp/wool blanket
salt and pepper. metal canteen (full, replace water every ~2 week). flashlight, fire starter (a small vial of alcohol is very utilitarian for sterilizing and fires).
for food, i recommend blending rice into a powder. the thickening properties are very efficient, to the point a water bottle full of it can make nearly 15 bowls of porridge, that can be flavored with powder soup stock or sugar and spice. bugging out is an on the run type deal though, so some trail mix would also be welcome
extra pairs of socks and underwear. gloves. plastic garbage bags. a cheese cloth type linen (a shemagh can double as this) which can function as a filter and scarf, or whatever other application loose linens can provide ie mending . on that note, cordage, needle and thread. map of area. extra batteries for whatever electronics you have, including phone
do not doubt the importance of water and socks. a wool blanket and a little mylar pack could go a long way
this is more of an innawoods pack and less of a relocation pack. best thing though is near everything necessary can be added for free, or near free
>>695169
40 garbage bags (extra large) they are cheap lightweight and offer insulation not found in nature anywhere and the number of possible applications are enormous. not to mention you should not leave garbage behind.
20 freezer bags (1 gallon size) can transport and store water and food items you gather. very compact when not used. you can take a dump in it and take it with you if you are tracked by dogs and not worry about smelling up your kit.
1 roll of duct tape: this combined with garbage bags is basically god tier shelter or whatever you need.
1 hatchet or small axe this is like the ultimate woodland multitool.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bug+out+bag
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bug+out+bag
go nuts
>>695170
This.
Mylar blankets are incredible for shelter construction, I use them in lean to shelters, they deflect the heat of the fire down onto you, it's lovely.
So far what i got
9mm hi point
100rd of 9mm
Water purification tablets
Rope
Flint and steel
Storm proof matches
A whistle
A compas
Rope
Camel pack
Cainten
Roman
Seasoning
And porn
>>695855
Needle and thread
Fishing line and couple hooks/jigs
Pliers or multi tool
Knife and fork
Pencils and small notepad
First aid kit
Couple tent pegs
Map
Deck of cards
>hi point
Are you poor, nigger or both?
>>695895
he mentions being broke. so better question is are you retarded, uneducated (cant read), or both?
>>695855
>9mm hi point
I kept reading Hi Point as Hi-Power.
Heh.
>>695169
So you are putting together a bag to survive in a bad situation and all you bring is weapons to hurt and kill other people with. You are the problem with the world.
>>696433
Self defense
Is it suitable to use fleece instead of wool blankets? Wool is really hard to find apparently, and when you do it's expensive, whereas a 66x90 fleece blanket is warm as fuck, and like 15$.
>>695911
not anon...but have you actually used a hipoint? yea they look like shit. and theyre pot metal. but they do work.
>>696441
not ideal. but if you can keep dry then yea it works half way decent. i used fleece for a logn time untill i could afford good wool clothes
>>697046
Since it's warming up I think I'll use a dry bag to cinch up and store a fleece for the next few trips. Should compress pretty neatly, I think
>>696441
pros:
flece is lighter easier to clean (you can't just throw wool into the machine on 90C program) not prone to rot or get infected with fungi that eats keratin it's not smelly. very cheap compared to wool.
cons:
wool is not nearly as prone to develop holes near fires it's pretty fire retardant especially compared to synthetics and won't catch flame. wool has better insulation when wet. it is natural if you are into that.
>>696437
You will never, I repeat NEVER use those weapons for self defense. You're a fucking faggot who has psychotic fantasies about the world ending. Your life isn't the walking dead, get a life.
>>697745
I think it's safe to assume he's American and in America guns are used for self defense situations on a daily basis. It doesn't have to be the apocalypse for that situation to occur.
>>697751
Yeah if you consider shooting black children to death for walking through your neighborhood self defense, then maybe. You people are honestly pathetic, just waiting and hoping for an excuse to use your weapon to hurt someone. shame on you
>>698034
Must be a cuck
>>698034
hola reddit
>>695169
No sleeping bag? I'll take your 9mm off you the morning after you die from hypothermia. Thanks.
On second thought, you probably won't make it through the first day anyway, since anyone carrying a military-looking bag with a med pack on the back will get sniped before they hit the tree line.
Any good BOB is basically a three-day pack to get you somewhere safe. If you wouldn't take it camping, don't have it in your BOB, if you need it when camping, do have it in your BOB. Come back and we'll reevaluate when you've applied some common sense.
>>698034
Niggers make good crab bait btw
>>695169
>9mm
Gonna sound too much like /k/ here, but there are two criteria for a bug out gun
>weight of ammo
>can I defend myself with it
If you are just bringing it to have a gun for hunting, either go with a rimfire or a 410/rimfire combo rifle.
If it's for self defense get something big and heavy that starts with a .4 instead of a .3
9mm is great, and I love it, but for a bob , there are so many better options.
That said, a few more things to add
>knife
>knife
>knife
>small axe
>pocket saw
>yo-yo fishing reel
>small tackle kit (tobacco cans are perfect)
>bank line
>painters plastic (small role takes up next to no space, and makes water proofing easy)
>matches
>enough food for two days
>sewing kit
>extra socks
>>697745
You've never been out of your basement
>>698082
Don't those yo-yo reels only have like nine feet of retracting cable? Doesn't seem terribly effective when most trout I catch are 25-30 out from the shore.
>>695172
Great list. If i may, i have a few notes/add-ons to some of your items
>garbage bags
Husky brand 3 mil contractor bags
>shemagh
If bought brand new, you'll need to wash thoroughly to remove all the excess dye before using as any sort of filter
My own little tip, in your tinder box, keep a few cottonballs covered in neosporin. The petroleum jelly/cotton is an excellent fire starter and of course you have the antibiotic neosporin if the need arises, two birds with one stone, however have other more dedicated options for fire and medical needs
>>698082
I don't see anything wrong with 9mm as a BO caliber, it works and is plentiful. Remember to get plenty of range time with whatever you're using though, doesn't do any good to have a firearm you can't use well. Replace the painters plastic with a small tarp and your in business
>>697745
Actually I live in Japan. But if I could own a firearm I would like to know I could protect my family and myself if the need arose. A BOB is for extreme situations and I feel that in said situations not everyone you encounter will want to "play nice" so some form of protection is advisable.
>>695169
>Posts bug out bag thread.
>Doesn't bother to tell us his location.
Have fun reading replies vomited from assholes who have no idea what you actually need.
Protip: If someone gives you a detailed answer to a general question, they've usually got no idea.
>>698215
they can try, and let OP cherry pick advice for his situation. if you dont comprehend this, arent you just a fucking faggot?
>>698215
garbage bags are universally useful
i bet even in the arctics you find use for them.
>>698229
>i bet even in the arctics you find use for them.
Yep, we do.
>>698110
I love 9mm and after rereading the part were on is poor, I would have to say go with it, since buying a new gun is expensive.
That said, I can carry so much more .22lr for the same weight, so for lasting as long as you can, that is a better option. If he just needs it for defense, I would want something around the .44Mag family because bears take a lot of killing.
>>698090
That's about right, but it's about catching food while not actively gathering food. There will be a fish that is close enough, and that is the one you want.
>>698276
The last time I camped out at the lake, I was improvising with a spindle instead of a rod and could only cast out about 20'. The only trout I caught were in the middle of the night when it was cold enough that they were coming closer to shore. But there were also a lot of mosquitoes at the time, and they weren't really taking salmon eggs anyway. Thinking about getting into fly tying.
>>697745
Citation, pls
A comfortable pack.
Buy two, pack your kit in one and use the other for a get around bag, keep it heaved than your kit so that you get used to lugging it around.
Water filter straw/pump/canteen.
Charm lights and a glow marker.
Watch
Soap and hand sanitiser.
Israeli bandage.
Dental floss. It is stronger than string.
Test and evaluate everything is as real situations as you can get. Dump what you don't like and try other stuff.
>>697745
Ever run into a bear or a hog while out?
>>698229
lol this guy with his garbage bags
>>698903
it's basically the pinnacle of human civilization final product of the world wide oil and chemical industry.
can be used for insulation, waterproofing, packaging, as a bag extremely lightweight and have huge volume.
you can use them as a door to your shelter inflate the bag and just stuff it in the entrance hole.
you can make pillows and sleeping mats if you fill them with leaves or moss.
you can make a watertight roofing with them cut up and a bit of duck tape.
only con is they easily get damaged. they won't last forever but as a survival item just perfect.
>>698903
garbage bags are the least talked about innawoods item, while being one of the most self evident in usefulness
/gbg/
Garbage Bag General
>>698903
Not the same guy but I originally posted the suggestion as a joke because OP is a poor retarded faggot. But it's certainly more useful than anything he is carrying
>>699168
i have seen garbage bag used by almost every "survival expert" to show you how you can stay alive in cold weather if you don't have a bivy and can't make fire.
Alright guys OP here ive been taking your advice and i got garbage bags some wool blankets from goodwill and i got an old chew tabaco can that im filling with cotton right now. Also picked up a lifestraw and water purification tablets from sportmans warehouse. Also im in AZ and the only reason why i want this bag for survival and protection. I did however just picked up a zepco 333 break real from walmart for like 9 bucks so anything else would be great
>>701040
you are surrounded by desert?
>>701052
Just surronded by patches of desert but 5 miles up the road theres nothing but desert
So for food i know i can hunt with the 9mm but could i also use grounded up rice and top ramen also? Because top roman easy to make just got to get and empty alumincum can and boil it but what else can i do.plus i just picked up a zebco 333 pole and real for like 4 bucks from walmart along with a small tackle box
>>702162
You sound like a teenager preparing to run away from home. Don't tell me, I don't want to know. Its just an observation. And an insult.
I make a lot of my own gear, and can probably help with improvisational gear-outs. List what you've got, in four categories: Food (and cookware), water (and procurements), shelter, warmth. Then tell me the lowest night-time temperatures for the next week where you're at, and how you plan on feeding yourself.
>>702192
Ya i know actually im from the south and i just moved to the desert and i have no idea on what to do in the desert what i can eat here so far from what ive been researching its just shade water and food here but im actually from west virjenny deep in the mountains out there im fuckin set i can live out in the woods forever but here im fucking retarted
>>702356
Desert is tough. If this is an actual BOB, you need a rendezvous/safe point and to figure out what you need to get there as quick as possible. This is NEVER hunting/fishing gear. This usually is snickers bars and a water filter. On the other hand, if you were trying to put together a run-away-from-home bag, you'd want to find a safe place with abundant fish and SMALL game and learn the set snares. Preferably someplace warm (winter nights above freezing) with mountainside lakes that aren't near any roads, and make sure you're well practiced in cultivation. You won't be able to catch and forage everything, but if you've got some high-calorie high producing crops on the side (think potatoes) You could probably make it work. But that's not really relevant to your situation.
Whatever you're doing, don't go unprepared. Learn your shit, practice it often, share your knowledge with like-minded individuals who do the same and don't put yourself at risk.
>>702368
So basically from what ive been readen to survive in the desert you need water and shade basically food is easly obtain from prickley pair fruit and also from the amount of small game the desert applies also from what i read you cant get water from cati so thats mainly my only concern is findim some place that has year round water
>>702560
You'd be better off trying to dig for your water in dried up creek/river beds or looking for small little watering holes rather than trying to get water out of cacti
>>702560
I'm honestly not sure how many calories you could get from cacti, not to mention the amount of calories burned while carefully harvesting and processing them. Would only be worth it for the extra water content in my opinion, and even then only if you can identify poisonous from non-poisonous cacti. I'd avoid it except as an absolute last resort. Not to mention some cacti are endangered, so that just wouldn't be cool. You'd have all the same issues with game animals; dangerous to harvest, probably not worth the calories, possibly endangered or poisonous. Deserts are dangerous.
You surely live near a river or canal though, so following that one direction or the other will get you to a forested area ...eventually. Google maps can help for the planning process. Water is easily the heaviest thing you'll carry, so being where you can fill a flask whenever you need to will save a ton of weight, and guarantee you don't run out of water.
Thru-hikers expect to burn around 5000-6000 calories per day. You can probably get by "comfortably" with 1500 - 2000/day for around a week with minimal weight loss, as long as there's a little to lose. That's still pushing it, though. Are you less than a week's walk along a water source away from someplace a little more bountiful? 15000 calories can be carried with minimal other supplies if necessary, though I'd recommend burying caches along the way.
Don't get me wrong, I totally get it... but this would he so much easier if I knew where you were.
OP here So i live in arizona and im a days walk maybe a day in a half walk away from lake pleasant so i think im gunna take the aqua fria up to pleasant just because of all the wildlife and water and trees and such up ther
>>703371
Where exactly? I'm about a 20-30 minute drive from Pleasant.
>>703371
So I checked out the area with Google maps. If you can get to lake pleasant, you'd probably have a limitless supply of water and possibly food, but it looks like there's only bushes, not trees there. That means you'd be spotted easier, have less to burn and cook with and you'd be more exposed to temperature changes, especially in high winds. Its not a terrible plan, but there's just stuff you'd have to account for.
I think I'd try to make it out more towards Tonto NF and Horseshoe reservoir. Seems like a less industrialized area, more wood for cooking and shelter, further away from the human threat, still walkable, though more difficult.
But this is all just based on five minutes staring at my phone. If I were you, I'd get out there and see if you can find an area with no nearby roads, trails or campsites. If there's a decent spot, lots of fish (helps to camp there a few times) and trees, I'd come back during the week when everyone's at work and bury a cache with food, extra (new) water filter, a metric shit-ton of fish hooks and probably a couple fifths of liquor and a can of rolling tobacco. Make sure Its well hidden, but still marked by something no one else would give a second thought to, like in between two boulders or behind a particular trail marker, always something you'll remember, never random GPS coordinates. This is an excellent time to practice LNT, too. If other people see a campsite there, it may become the new highschool drinking spot, rather than your own private wilderness safety net.
>>703512
Im at I 17 And deer valley
>>703547
There a specific part of lake pleasant i want to go that i know very very well thats why i want to go there
>>703612
Nice. I-17 and Carefree Hwy here
>>698215
Generally speaking there's a small list of essential things everyone needs in order to not die of things like exposure and dehydration. Those are typically the 2 leading causes of death in an /out/ scenario. So things like a sleep system, water containment, water purification, and fire starting are the most important. Asking a broad question doesn't make the person that asks stupid and definitely doesn't make the people who answer stupid either. But you acting like a tool and being generally unpleasant get people nowhere.
>>695169
Samefagging >>703622
You need a cotton cloth and a way to filtrate particles from getting in to your water. That can be anything from a tshirt to a bandanna. Boiling the water or using tablets won't get feces, sand, or any other matter that make you sick out of your water. You also need a sleep system to keep yourself from losing body heat to the ground. This can cause you serious problems and can waste a very serious amount of energy in a SHTF situation or even just a camping trip. You can go weeks without food if you needed to. You can only go a few days without water and even less if you're battling exposure. This can even be a serious risk in the summer so don't shrug it off. The durability, cost, and quality will vary on your budget, skills, and location. Army Surplus gear might be beat up if you find it used but the stuff is built to stand the test of time and can be extremely affordable. You'll have to research a lot of that on your own. BOBs aren't built for living innawoods. You need to have a preset destination in mind and get to where you're going in short order. If that's not what you're setting up for then it's not a BOB and you have a whole new list of things you'll need for that.
>>703625
So i have a life straw and a frog tog to keep me cool while walkin the only thing i need is basically a quick up and quick down shelter for to keep the sun off of me
>>703750
In that climate, I'd probably do just a tarp, unless snakes are an issue, in which case I'd want a tent, regardless. I usually just use a bivvy, but we don't get many snakes up north.
>>703752
Snakes are a problem here (Dismondback), but only in the Spring/Summer months- but I'd still want a tent, even if just for the night.
>>703752
So if i get a tent how much am i lookin at i need one to sleep two people and a baby
>take regular /out/ setup
>increase medical, food/water, and defense capabilities
>???
bugout bag
btw bugout bags are useless unless you have a bugout location stocked with supplies. otherwise you just get to camp out a month or so before you die
>>695855
how will you sleep at night
what if it rains
what if you can't find food
>flint/storm matches but no regular-ass bic lighter
>no knife
>NO FUCKING KNIFE
literally .5/10 you tried. think it through
>>697745
oh i am laffin m8
>>703891
that depends on why you have to bug out
>>703953
name a situation where you bug out with just a backpack + gear, then continue to survive without using previously prepared caches or locations
>>703612
Cave creek here.
Sell the gun for a good knife and waterproof jacket
Cave creek fag here, imo you shouldn't bug out in 99.9% of shtf situations. If you were in the inner city surrounded by spic & nigs then I would say otherwise, but your area relatively safe and secure. If i was you I would focus on staying put and having things as close to normal as possible. Extra food, extra water, extra toiletries. Every Phoenician cock sucker thats ever googled "bug out" will have the same plan as you.
>get to lake pleasent
When shtf you dont want to be around a ton of other preppers. You dont know who is planning on defense and who is planning on offense and who will just not give a shit cause "lol society meltdown"
If you insist on bugging out I would highly suggest to be south of lake pleasent, along the canal, but in an area away from roads and most importantly, away from people.
>>703882
Depends on how much you have available to spend and how much you can carry. Check WM. If you know how to sew and seal seams, you can make a cheap tent function as well as a mid range tent.
>>703984
I kinda skipped over this because OP sounded like he was set on bugging out, but this may be a better plan given the location. It would mean having a lot more expenses like a composting toilet, increased security, larger stockpile of food and water, etc. But also allows more subtle and reliable prepping like having a large garden and water storage (established and a secure home as opposed to a tent. I'd still have food and water caches as well as keeping other outdoor gear cached elsewhere in case I couldn't get home due to fire, looting or just general mayhem. Its always good to have a backup. Biggest issue with prepping in the home is keeping appearances subtle; the last thing you want is for a bunch of people to know that you have a six month supply of food and a bunch of ammo laying around. Easiest way to get killed is to be worth killing.
>>703987
So i found a couple of knives i like for the bag and i found a four person backpacking all seasons tent at WM
>>703612
Prescott here.
>>704761
What's up prescott
>>704750
You shouldn't need a four season tent. I'm kinda surprised they even sell them that far south. The primary difference is that they're built with sturdier and heavier materials to hold a night's worth of snow. Downgrade if it'll save you some money and weight.
I'm peculiar about blades. I'm in WA, so I don't bother with axes or saws; we get so much deadfall from pine that dry fire wood is never an issue. In my opinion, a general purpose folder and a fish knife are all you need. Your needs may necessitate other tools, though.
Lets see your current gear list and bug out/in plan. I want to know how much weight you're carrying, how much weight the little lady is carrying (including the baby), how far the slower of the two of you can walk with said weight, and how far it is to your safe point. And what you have or will have cached there. Keep in mind, you'll probably want to adjust for a 25% decrease in stamina for the second day.
>>704786
4:15 AM and I'm up! Life on the ranch!
>>704985
I know that Feel grew up in west virgina on the farm
>>698034
Stop acting like such a victimized nigger.
>>703955
war
natural disaster
mass panic
you can get sorted out i a few day and return to civilization your bag will hold out for that and keep you mobile.
So why is there so much BOB hate why cant this guy just be prepared for his family
>>706718
because larping is for fags
I was just blessed with one of these as a gift ( minus the sack but with the fork in much better condition ) and I was thinking of tossing it into my BOB. My problem is I've never had ANY sort of portable mess kit or cookware before and I'm wondering how exactly it is supposed to be used.
It seems pretty obvious at first glance:
> Knife also functions as can/bottle opener
> Fork/Spoon for forking and spooning food, possibly stirring.
> Canteen ( made of plastic, not sure why ) for storing water.
> Canteen cap cover is a cup?
>Plastic cover maybe a second bowl?
>Metal bottom is a pan/bowl.
Please correct me and explain this kit to me if I am wrong.
>>707000
With those corners that is going to be a mother fucker to clean in the field......
I carry a metal pie pan.
>>695169
from /k/
>>707000
https://youtu.be/WN0Y2TV2ojI
>>707000
Hey I've had two of these, and they really do great work. I use mine mostly for cooking food, but as stated in a reply earlier it is a super bitch to clean, especially when food gets burned in - the edges get scrapped up fast or come damaged and I've gotten s few cuts trying to clean the fucker.
That said its a great SHTF stowaway that gets the job done, and does it well - I've cooked with them straight on coals and they still do great.
>>708070
Where can i get them at? And how much are they
>>703976
No. Keep the gun, get a cheapo mora and wear plastic bag as rain poncho. Also get yourself some thin and sturdy copper wire for snares, fastenings and repairs of shoes, bag and the like. The wire can be scavenged.
>>709545
I prefer a poncho tarp. I have a GoLite. It covers me and my pack when it rains or I can set up a quick tarp and wait it out instead of setting up my tent footprint and rain fly.
>>709545
Also, get a half litre coke bottle or more with oliveoil. An old trick - add it to whatever you are cooking for extra nutrients and flqvour. For food you want ease of cooking and carbs. Couscous and powdered mashed potatoes are very convenient.
>>709498
Before buying one you should be made aware that buying one does not mean it will be clean and in-tact. When you get it you may wind up having wash it and accept the fact that any dings, dents, and/or other damage ( even my silverware has some black spotting that will not come off and lacked the ( what I believe is a ) canvas sack and these ) are things you'll have to live with.
>>707000
I believe my friend had said he had acquired this one through barter/trade but you CAN find them online through surplus stores and Amazon's website. I also know some department store chains have surplus areas ( http://www.fleetfarm.com/ ) and you can find mom/pop surplus stores in your area using Google if there are any to be found.
I'd try to ask the places near you first if they have any mess kits and then go see them. Chances are if a store is willing to let you see them they are clean and it gives you an idea of what the kits are like in your pack better than a picture. When you order online ( places like Amazon ) expect the kits to come as if they were straight from the field with stuck-on food/mold/etc.
I most likely will wind up using mine as is for camping or ditch the canteen ( or fill it with Iodine or Vodka ) and take medical supplies to the top as a sort of make-shift first-aid kit. I'm undecided as of yet. I will admit that I LOVE the utensils and no matter what my mess kit is going to consist of I find it difficult to see the utensils uninvolved.
>>695169
>B.O.B.
The five Cs: cutting device, cover, container, combustion device, cordage
For the cover I'd go with a tarp and an extra jacket.
Maps, bug-out plans, phone numbers, addresses
Photocopies of your ID, passport, birth cert, SS card, work IDs, credit cards, insurance cards, etc
Lighting: 2 LED headlamps
First Aid kit (especially medications)
Food (calorie dense)
Water containers- collapsible rubber/plastic bags
Lightweight gloves, extra socks, winter hat
OP here i so i got alot of shit for my BOB i got a kershaw knife set $5, than i got 5ft of paracord $4, more perfication tablets (five finger discont) and im got some flint and steel along with some storm proof matches (five finger discount)
Now the next issue i have is now my BOB is heavy as hell with the tarp any ideas on what i can do to make it a little less weight
>>709970
define heavy if it's under 40 lbs it's good.
What is a Hi Point and why are people getting upset about it?
bumperino
>>711014
We just weighed it and it's 56 pounds and it just pullea my back down in a uncomfortable spot
>>711058
It's a cheap pistol that some people love and some people hate
>>711633
wtf do you have it in there
that's not a very heavy load btw if it pulls at the wrong spot your backpack is shit or you packed it bad.
i have carried that weight in a 3 dollar mule bag that had no internal frame and no padding whatsoever in the straps. it was a shit experience.
>>711882
I have a tarp
wool clothes
fleece shirts
100 rds ammo
a pistol
rope
Knife
knife
knife
water purification tablets
camel pack
mess kit
grounded rice
top Roman
seasonings
life straw
>>711965
Drop the roman overrated as fuck, get a mongol they are shorter and got better survival skills.
>>711965
100rds of 500 S&W?
You guys are retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DSveLiEbSM
>>712000
Checked. And I sat this morning had a cup of coffee and listened to this wise man make the most sense of any person I've heard talk on the topic so far. His age is a shame, it shows his generation isn't listened to like they should be. My grandfather probably would have said the same stuff.
>>697745
>you will never gave to defend yourself from a bear/big cat
>an axe is a weapon against humans, not a tool
>purification tablets are a weapon!
You're on the wrong board you little pansy homo
>>712000
too good. fucking love his truck too.
>>711991
Mongols are hard to come by in my area. Astronomical prices, even for the ones that have obviously been used hard. There's also a lot of counterfeits floating around.
You can find a few that have been bubba'd with katanas and Vietnamese hats, but you'll spend more than they're worth to do a restoration.
What I've found is that Huns are good value. The tribesurp market is usually flooded with them.
Any thoughts on northbound train's first aid kid? It's about $24. Any better ones that you sc/out/s can suggest?
>>698034
If I hadn't met people this retarded in real life, I would assume this is just a troll.
>>713273
Honestly depends on what you are doing with it and what your support expectations are: Will you eventually be able to reach medical help, or are you on your own for the most part?
>>712000
>get on with the program
>get fucked
i think that is exactly what most don't want to
Bugout bags are a retarded concept, unless you have decades of experience in long-term survival training, you're going to last about as long as your candy bars take to be eaten, and then you'll starve to death. It's simply not possible to carry the supplies needed to survive for any meaningful amount of time, unsupported, in the woods. Snares can be used a couple of times at best before the animals you catch mangle them beyond use, the 0.2mm fishing line is going to snap after 15 minutes.
The only way you're ever going to survive in whatever scenario you've cooked up in your head that requires you to bug out, is if you've invested heavily in some kind of a off-the-grid cabin, where all your actual long-term supplies and heavy tools are stored.
In which case, you want a get-home bag or a go-bag (all the terms for these kits are used interchangeably but when I hear BOB I imagine some guy with enough supplies to do an weekend camp, at best). Go bags/get home bags have enough kit to keep you alive between where-ever you happen to be when something happens, and where you need to get to.
That's typically either going to be get you from your place of work back to your home, on foot within 72 hours, or from home to a long-term alternative location such as the cabin mentioned above. If you work within a days trek from your home, you aren't going to need more than a day's worth of food. You aren't going to need na axe because you aren't going to be making a cabin during your 8 hour hike back home, whether you spend overnight in the woods or not.
>>714209
>says nobody knows what they are talking about
>goes to prove that he doesnt know what hes talking about
>>714209
Dude a BOB is an A-B bag... you're generally going to another place with it. That's the general reason for it. The people you're referring to in your prattle don't know what they're talking about. Which if YOU knew what you were talking about you wouldn't make a post like that.
>>714408
Got emm
Hi points are T TOTAL SHIT get money faggot
>>714209
it's gonna help in almost any unforeseen situation situation to have rather than have not.
you are just being irrational.
>>714209
>get to your cabin
>find a group of preppers armed to the teeth inside
>going through your shit and having a blast with the loot
kek
>>702162
For what it's worth, one of those kidney shaped, steel, G.I. canteen cups turns out to be exactly 1 top ramen long by 2 top ramen wide. If you break the noodle cake in half and pack each half in the bottom of the cup, fill it up with water and you can cook the ramen over a twig fire. I considered hiking the AT with only a canteen cup as my cook pot.
>>715797
So I've got the one from wally world where there almost identical and I'm throwing that in my bag as well now should I start to try and recruit some people in with me so if shit does hit the fan I have more people to go with me or just stuck to Me and my wife and 3 week old daughter
>>715827
I don't mean be all technical on metals but the steel from the ones at wal mart may not be the same quality. Just make sure before you eat or drink from it out in the bush that it doesn't rust and inspect it before you leave your house. I learned that the hard way. I was happy I was UTD on my shots.
>>695169
prob a bit overkill but I just found pic related for about $250.00
>>716172
Link?
