>half of my local forest just got cut down to make a golf course
it's time, anon.
>>650518
Molotovs, my friend.
frogposters pls go
>>650524
>>650533
I'M THIS FUCKING CLOSE TO OPENING THE RHODODENDRON SEEDS, ENJOY YOUR POISONED SOIL YOU FUCKS
>>650518
Put "protect our forests" signs in the cups, fill the cups with cement. Repeat. Post pics. Enjoy the lulz.
>>650518
>my
No, anon, it is not "your" forest.
How selfish of them. They should have used that land to resettle some moderate Muslim terrorists
>>650783
This is the only worthwhile idea ITT.
>>650518
>>650518
Must have been a tiny, shitty, privately owned forest that you had no business in anyway, poorfag.
>>651187
"Half the local privately-owned forested land I used to trespass upon has been sold by its rightful owner to a new rightful owner who is developing it into a golf course that my community desires."
>>651181
Sweet recognition! I miss when Anons were proactive, and not just a bunch of bitchy little cunts.
>>650518
Why is this in greentext?
>>651346
Golfing really is a shitty "sport".
>>650518
1) golf fucking rocks. Getting on a course is the closest a lot of people get to nature. Stop hating on them
2) not your fucking forest faggot.
> half
That leaves half for you to play. Stop being a whiny little child and learn to share.
3) Learn to play golf, then you can still use 100% of "your" forest
4) stfu, you annoy me.
>>651346
another faggot
>>651380
you wanna play golf, here. a much better alternative that preserves most of the nature so your yuppie friends can enjoy golf and brag about how wild and extreme they are.
>>651388
I have no issue w/ disc, you just won't get 95% of the people that play golf out for disc.
I live in a rural town, it's all woods and farmland. The tallest hill in town has been a farm since around 1690. It's behind my parents' woods. They own several acres of forest (with the neighbors all owning several acres as well) and this large hilltop field abuts the back of all of our land, with a stone wall separating it from the forest. I think it's about 25 acres cleared. The farm itself is long gone but a farmer still owns the land and comes and hays it once or twice a year.
>>651569
>cont'd
My childhood was filled with adventures in the woods, and when we were old enough to explore all the way back to the field it was like a rite of passage. That old stone wall, laying there in the shadows, overgrown, covered in vines. It's hard to even see out into the field during summer because the brambles and vines are so thick at the edge. Old trees of cider apples grow feral in the thicket beyond the wall, too deep to even sample an apple. This is what made the field itself so great. It was hard to get to, and when you did, the world opened-up into what seemed like an endless green pasture with the biggest sky you could ever get to see in New England. The view from the top was amazing, especially for a kid. The slope down the opposite side would grow acres of milkweed in the fall and we'd spend the day out there having wars with milkweed pods, throwing them at each other until someone got the juice and their eye and cried.
>>651571
>cont'd
I move a lot as an adult. In one city or another, around the US and overseas, but every few years I come back when I'm between things - jobs, moves, etc. I get back into camping and enjoying the woods before my family sells the property. I still walk out on nice days and follow the stonewall, fight through the prickers and walk around the field and enjoy the view from the top. Even as an adult I throw a few milkweed pods, despite the fact there's nobody there to thrown them at. I still love the vines, the sky, the forbidden apples.
>>651572
cont'd
A couple weeks ago a tractor appeared in the field. So did a few large dump trucks. I took a walk out to snoop around the wall and take a look. The field has been marked-out with dozens of pink survey ribbons. The corner of the field near where the road passes was getting dug-up, and they were laying a large gravel driveway leading in from the street. For sure it's been sold and a cul-de-sac neighborhood is going in. Probably at least 10 shitty mcmansions full of yuppy perverts and immigrants and their kids could fit in there. Not only will it ruin the field, but then my woods would become someone else's back yard. The stonewall wouldn't stop them. It's horrible.
>>651575
>cont'd
Well, /out/, after much research and coming up with nothing, I asked one of our town selectmen. The farmer sold the land alright - to another farmer. He's putting in an orchard. No houses, no neigborhoods, no immigrants, no perverts. Just apples and bees and a gigantic blue sky. Feelsfuckinggoodman.
>ƒin
Thank you for sharing part of your life. I felt a serenity in your relayed experience that comes few and far between these days.
I'd like to see the stone wall if you have a picture. Or is that it in the top right of 01.jpg?
>>651597
yeah that's it in the top right of 01 left of 02... bizarrely i have tons of pics of over and around the wall but not many of the wall itself.
Here's a couple... the bottom one doesn't have much wall (it's kinda crumbled at that spot) but what is there is all in the shadows... i was trying to show the thick brambles on the other side
>>651576
I actually felt relief when I read that.
>>651608
Does anybody else not mind radio masts?
>>651185
This.
Fuck anon and his "woods". These faggots think that any piece of wooded land that doesn't have a house immediately visible on it is free range.
Source: grew up on 50 acres in upstate NY. Every poorfag within 8 miles thought it was OK to trespass for whatever reason they could think up.
>>651623
the cool thing about radio towers is it's not houses! and it means it won't be houses for a long time. same goes with solar farms, wind mills, etc.
>>651629
I just think they look cool in an eerie way.
>>651181
It's either that or completely plowing the land via 4x4s, quads, dirt bikes, dune buggies, sand rails and a ton of ants
>>651665
Yeah I dig that. Communications equipment, electricity substations, high tension lines, telephone exchanges, all pretty awesome in their own creepy industrial way
>>651730
Why did you include >>651627? He clearly stated he was from NY, which is in the US. The US has no freedom to roam statutes because we don't allow our government to infringe that far on the landowner's rights.
>>651623
They don't bother me a bit. Nor do windfarms in the distance.
>>650518
First thought your comment brings to mind: If half of it made one golf course, it wasn't really a forest. Second thought your comment brings to mind: If it was yours, you didn't have to agree to have the course built. Landowners have rights. Third thought your comment brings to mind: You're like a welfare bitch pissed off her benefits got cut because you're insolent, thinking welfare (use of woods owned by someone else) is some kind of right, possessive of someone else's property, and mad because what you used to get for nothing is being taken partly away.
>>650518
I feel you anon. Big parts of the forest I am using got destroyed by a storm years ago. The lumber got chopped up and transported away. The paths left by the forest workers are now filled with people taking a walk and throwing their trash on the ground. I've build my campsite at a spot which ist sorrounded by thick brush and young needle trees in order to keep it hidden. I have to fucking crawl there.
>>651380
Consider sudoku
>>651737
>infringe that far on the landowner's rights
Your use of the word "infringe" here is interesting from my point of view. I'm from sweden, and here that would rather be an infringement to the general populations right to visit nature. It's all a matter of perspective I guess.
Not the guy you replied to btw
>>651730
Are you in Finland?
>>651764
In Sweden the general population has a right to use private land?
No wonder.
>>651768
> right to visit nature
Americans have really poor reading comprehension...
>>651772
Well, no...you responded to a post specifying a landowner's rights.
So I ask you again, does the general population have a right to access private land, presence of nature notwithstanding?
I know in Finland that every person can walk across and pick berries from any land, public or private. Is it the same in Sweden?
>>651781
Well, not ANY land, property close to homes or where animals graze is exempt from the law. There are a couple other exemptions, but I can't name them off the top of my head.
>>651768
In Sweden the immigrant population has full use of all fertile valleys even without permission from its owner.
>>651781
I'm not the swede but 'im the guy you are replying to.
According to him in sweden people can go to places with nature at their will, it doesn't matter if it belongs to someone else.
Nature belongs to the population not some random landowner.
You made this about property when it was about public usage. He never said anything about places without nature.
>>651764
In the US, landowners have the right of "quiet enjoyment" of their property. So does a lessee. Those rights are codified differently in different states. Texas has several provisions regarding property and what other people and lower levels of government can and cannot do with your property. For example, no trespassing signs every so often make it a crime to enter the land for any reason. Purple stripes at least 1 inch wide and 12 inches long painted on fence posts serve the same purpose. If you owned your land before it was incorporated by a city, and you have at least 10 acres, the city can in no way restrict your right to shoot guns on your land provided the bullets stop on your property. The list goes on, that's just a sample.
Before someone takes what was written above and makes some extreme argument out of it, I'll clarify something. Yes, you can shoot your guns right at the edge of your 10+ acre tract at 2:00 AM even if there's a city ordinance against it if you meet the timeline requirements of the law. Your neighbors who build a house 50 feet from the property line knew this and just have to live with it.
>>650518
shit in all the holes
>>651764
Who cares about Sweden. You have a fucked up country. Enjoy your top of the list rape statistics and boats loads of immigrants coming into the country and getting free luxury housing in "prison".
>>651873
In 25 years the last few hundred swedes will be hunted like vermin in those forests
>>650518
Do you have canada geese where you live? Set up decoys and feed them if you see them
Trespass and leave bread everywhere
Canada geese will Fuck their shit up
>>650518
>local road is being expanded to allow more traffic
>two new wal-marts where the woods use to be
>"nature" trails everywhere
Concrete pathways and restrooms does not a nature trail make.
>Apartment complexes taking place of trailer-parks
At least the kudzu won't go away.
>>651815
>places with nature
What does this even mean? Where is there a place without nature?
>>651811
kek
>>651904
>kudzu
ever seen the movie Creepshow? that shit'll kill us all in the end.
Plant bamboo and horseradish in a few remote spots on the course where groundskeeping won't easily spot it.
Then wait.
>>651946
>whites being executed left and right
Have you seen how the police have been killing African Americans here the last few years? Get your facts straight.
>>651864
>living your dna there
you're not very smart, are you?
>>651956
I haven't seen 1 yet where it wasn't deserved
>>651935
I raise goats, kudzu can not harm me.
>>651946
Canada is pretty much the only place multiculturalism is working
>>651981
> working multiculturalism
>>651956
Lol this. I know people are generally using a ridiculous hypothetical to view their disdain towards immigrants, but surely no one actually believes they will be 'taken over'?.
Must be what schizophrenia is like.
>>651981
If it wasn't for bogans, Australia too is a great example.
>actually believing your culture is untouched and 'pure' and not the product of thousands of years of borrowing and swapping the good traditions and booting the shit ones.
>>652000
Why do we need a reason to hate illegals? Not that we don't have 20 good reasons to despise them
>>650518
Ignoring the derailing claptrap about immigrants, I'm sorry to hear that about your predicament,OP. Some assholes recently destroyed 20 acres of prime meadows and old-growth maple forest that I spent a majority of my childhood playing in. I can only take comfort in knowing that the land will eventually become wild again in the far future, once the descendants of these worldeating capitalists have no more oil to power their machinery. Their disconnection from the lands they live on will be their undoing, even if most life is swallowed into their iron stomaches and homogenized into domestic animals, enclosed land and miserable people. This machine will fall.
>>650518
dumb frogposter
>>652001
As well as that many years of forcibly defending our borders against the same people you now want to let in by the tens of millions. People who try to appeal to history to justify allowing total demographic replacement are pretty goofy considering we had a quota system that would make most modern people faint. Really it's best to leave topics like this to informed people.
>>652102
Wow man you're so deep.
Also
>Implying communism is better for the environment
>>651576
I'm really glad you took the time to share that, particularly as a fellow New Englander. I don't know if I'll ever appreciate another region as much as I do this one, and I've been through a handful.
>>651603
There's something about dilapidated stone walls that gets me going too, so I'm glad you got a couple shots in of them.
>>651956
>believing the media
>>652110
>claims to be informed
>uses childish hyperbole like '10 trillion refugees'
>your country was built by refugees
>irony of a neo-liberal capitalist country telling people they don't have the right to move to where the best chance of employment and innovation is
>majority of our refugees are not 1940s sequence Japanese or German so unsure of your sentiment toward 'the ones we fight our boarders with
Stay informed, bruh. Im all for reasonable discussion about the advantages of globalisation and the disadvantages that can come from poor immigration programs, but lol you are stupid. Stop towing the party line, I think you'd be a really smart guy/girl if you used that brain to critically think.
>>652139
He's right though accepting tens of millions of third world invaders into a country does put pressure on the land and the environment.
Thats wny any environmentalist is 100% against any immigration even ignoring the rape and murder of 10,000 Americans by illegals every year
>>651627
This. remove methheads
>>650790
It's worse that those golfing fucks wrecked *their* forest. He isn't the only one effected by it.
It sounds much worse to say "I bulldozed this forest to build *MY* golfcourse"
TL;DR pls go put your name on something else trump
>>652113
Thanks friend! And yeah, New England is pretty cool. Just the right mix of new and old, creepy and beautiful.
>>651380
Golfers are the worst kind of subhuman filth
>>652350
Still better than 100% of women
>>650518
>be a dumb frogposter
>"your" forest gets cut down
serves you right.
>>650518
Private property exists REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>650518
Kinda small forest if half of it got cut down for a golf course. Even the largest golf course in the world, that has a hotel, spa, 54 holes is only 360 acres.
>>651627
You can't own forest, honey. When I found out the lake near my home was being purchased and turned into a private resort, I dumped some rotting animals in the water, because if I can't swim there, nobody can.
>>652502
>mfw
https://youtu.be/sJMDbeHASxM
Seed bombs, anon.
Also actual bombs.
>>651623
Not too much. I mind powerlines much either. Powerline cuts through the woods make great bird habits, since birds like the edges of forests. And those metal lattice tower things look kind of cool.
>>650518
breed skunks in a cage and beat them so their mean then when their at a large population release them onto the golf course. you may not be able to go back for years due to rabid skunks that viciously spray anything in their path but neither will the golfers
>>651768
All land in a country is owned by the sovereign state. "Private land" is a grant by the sovereign back to individuals, corporations, or lesser governments, which carries with it different rights and responsibilities. "I own it, it's mine, nobody can touch it!" is not part of the Swedish model of land ownership. Nothing is being infringed.
>>653522
>Nothing is being infringed because Swede's never had rights
Slavery of the mind is a fucked up thing
>>653524
You'd be amazed at the rights you don't have. Personally, I'd rather have hikers on my property than an interstate highway, but that's just me.
>>653528
I can shoot those people legally in my state
>>653537
No, you can't.
>>650518
Dumb frog poster
>>653528
I've been to Europe and they have plenty of rights we don't have but if I own a parcel of land no one else can set foot on it if I tell them to fuck off. And that's what we were talking about
>>650783
Lol please do this
>>650790
How can you say the community desires it? Are you familiar with this particular case?
>>652111
Stop calling everything that doesn't conform with your selfish attitude communism. We are destroying our planet with greed. He's not saying that we need to put up the old hammer and sickle everywhere, he's saying that the unsustainable and destructive manner that a great deal of the world operates under will be our collective undoing. The natural world cannot compete with our current demands.
>>655149
>muh noble savage
If you want a country where the tribal cultures were never displaced by sedentary societies, look at Papua New Guinea.
It sucks.
>>655149
>Natives here worked with nature instead of mindlessly exploiting it.
You know this is basically a myth right? There are native tribes that literally burned down vast tracts of forest and field for hunting. Some pacific tribes would literally have contests to see who could destroy the most private property to show off their wealth. There are tribes that were known to kill dozens of buffalo and take only their tongues, leaving everything else to rot. They are now discovering that indigenous tribes altered the entire amazon basin is vast ways.
There were a lot of native tribes that mindlessly exploited nature just like the evil white man. But it is far less noticeable because they were fewer in number and far less technologically sophisticated about it.
But the whole peaceful natives living with nature is largely a myth.
>>650518
I know what a waste
with that real estate, should have made some sort of alt energy farm
hydro if there is running water
>>655151
>Burning down huge tracts of forest for hunting.
Yes, because it allowed grasses and brush to grow, which not only naturally attracted game animals by providing more space for them, but pine forests use fires as an important part of their lifecycle. Pinecones open and release seeds when burned.
>Killed dozens of buffalo and took only their tongues.
It wasn't just tongues. Most of those fields of buffalo carcasses where stripped of fat and an equal (though small) amount of meat for making pemmican. And why? Because white trappers were buying it up by the assload. There were plenty of buffalo to go around until we assholes got here.
>>655200
It's true tho that after we killed off the Indians that the environment improved and endangered species recovered. Kind of a win win since animals are more important
>ITT: faggots
>>655417
Found the homophobic Indian worshipping government shill
>>651956
> more whites aren't killed by black people
> the media ever covers these stories
>>651730
I always thought if I got rich enough to own nice open land my orange signs would say "ok to trespass and hunt, just call me first and don't be an asshat".
>>655437
>adding fuel to the burning bundle of sticks
