whats a good cheap hand held gps device?
Depends, are you a geocatcher or a geopooper?
>>630349
train hopper need to know where i am sometimes
>>630353
Trespassing criminal. Not interested in feeding your illegal activity. Train hopping is dangerous, illegal, and you should not do it. Ever. Under any circumstances.
>>630381
i was jking bro
>>630330
LG L34C is about $20. It has a full color touch screen and runs android.
I also use mine to shitpost on 4Chan.
>>630330
A compass and a map
Can't you go /out/ without your digital toys?
>>630469
>rain.
>paper maps
>rain
>rivers
>swamps
>paper maps
there's a reason why people only buy paper maps for roads only.. cause they stay in your car, away from any water. Also paper maps normally just cover either a single area you buy them for, or silly state and national parks. Not other places.
>>630469
why not both?
GPS is convenient.
A good map doesn't need batteries.
>>630330
mobile phone
thanks to better maps and A-gps correction its faster and better the other gps options
only issue redundancy and battery life. but a power bank and a paper will address that
Garmin e-trex 20 is pretty good. Maps are easy enough to "buy" online and you can also load up maps from openstreetmap and others.
try using a map.
>>630529
second for e-trex 20, good enough features and is rugged and works with gloves on.
>>630469
I do most of my navigation just with the map and compass, but I go solo, I need a backup, especially when visibility goes down to 00, been trapped twice in a white out plus it is really handy at night.
>>630476
Map goes in waterproof map pouch, and map is more essential than gps and much more reliable.
>>630330
android phone + oruxmaps app
>>630476
I have a forest service map that has a waterproof costing. The thing is pretty big and will make a good water cover for an emergency shelter. They only cost 10$
>>630469
how does one learn to use a compass and map?
>>633221
Join an orienteering club.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDFqdqJe2o
VX-8DR plus map. Now you also get a radio and prostate stimulator.
>>630476
>not waterproofing maps
>>633224
I found another two parts of this series, probably better if these are watched before that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWxwZAGtZpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh5a2es4M_Q