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CLASSIC CAR GENERAL
Stinkin' Lincoln / land barge edition
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Anything applies. Muscle, land barge, trucks, European, Japanese. If its older than 25 years post about it here.
Fuck off.
I'm trying to make my Prelude mid engine, can anyone help?
I can put it in the space of the back seats + trunk right?
Stripped out the majority of my maverick's interior. Planned on getting a car rotisserie for it until I saw the price of the one I wanted.
I'm thinking of just building a basic frame out of 4x4s to elevate it 3 or 4 feet off the ground instead.
>>15435915
we dont care
>>15435911
If you have to ask, you can't do it.
>>15435915
This is the donor car for the maverick. It has a 460 and a heavy duty 9" rear end which are going into it.
Thinking about cleaning up the lincoln, throwing a 305 and 700r4 into it(for dat MPG) along with some rear end, give it a quick paint job and give it to my parents. They've been eyeing it since they first seen it.
Also bought a welder today. It MUST be a step up from the harbor freight shit I've been using. I had two $20 off coupons at summit, so fuck it.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/lcn-k2185-1/overview/
What does /o/ think? Figure I'll practice my welding on the lincoln.
>>15435947
>dat chicago rust
>>15435926
go fuck yourself with a cactus. I'm posting this shit anyway.
Fucker I bought this off of was going to derby it.
>>15435938
Thats not true man come on
>>15435911
protip: you're not capable of it.
take your 90's jap ricebox nipmobile to some 90's jap ricebox nipmobile thread
>>15436090
No Its a classic car and I have every right to be here and discuss projects
>>15436125
You'll need to figure out cooling, drivetrain(figuring out how to get power to the wheels), exhaust(keeping the fumes out of the cab), mounting the engine, mounting the transmission, suspension work, etc.
You'll have alot of custom fab work ahead of you, which will involve cutting, grinding, welding and shaping metal.
You're basically asking how to build an entire car. It'll either be alot of work and a considerable amount of money, or you can hire out and it'll cost a boatload of money.
Does this satisfy you?
>>15436174
No you moron
Tell me how to cut it
cant I just flip the drivetrain around?
I saw project binky
I fixed the oil leak on muh ford today!
my family friend introduced me to this old dude who owns a shop and he helped me fix the leak, fix my tail lights and he's going to help me swap the engine and pretty much anything I want when I get to that point.
/endblogpost
>>15436174
why are you responding to this guy
big enough for ya? Thinking about picking up a mid 70s Fleetwood Brougham next.
>>15436202
pls go.
>>15436211
because I'm a fucking moron.
>>15436206
What type of leak?
>>15436202
here's your
>(You)
>>15436225
was pissing oil out of the oil level sensor. I thought it would be a valve cover
>>15436197
paint came out great.
I want to dd a decent sized classic.. but I want mpgs... (15+). So what would be the best rear end for a 350/th350 combo that can achieve mpgs, but still be able to city and Highway drive? (Doesn't have to be fast by any means on acceleration, I just want to be able to cruise at 70mph)
>>15436248
count yourself lucky it wasn't an intake leak from one of the china walls.
>>15436293
I'm not too big into chevy, but I believe you could drop in a 700R4, which has an overdrive gear. I've heard they're basically like legos.
>chevy parts are cheap
>chevy cars are expensive
>ford cars are cheap
>ford parts are expensive
>>15436318
yeah tru. I want to start building a 351 though, but I don't know where to start.
>>15436361
How about getting a block and looking up a few 351 performance articles?
>>15436375
that's what I want to do. I can re-use the stock crank, rods, valves and stuff like that, but I would need to get pistons, cam, lifters, rockers, GT40 heads and some headers and stuff.
also motor mounts
All the parts I needed to get the new 670 holley on my lincoln came in last friday and I finally got her running on monday. Since then I fixed a high idle problem and pretty much have her dialed in. Oh, and I made some new battery cables because the old ones were shitty and corroded and made with those temporary terminals.
However, the manual says to hook the choke up to a 12v source and it turns out the wire I have it hooked up to is actually closer to 13 volts while the car's running. Is this going to burn it out or is it okay for my uses?
>>15436395
1 volt isn't going to make much difference. Electrical systems in cars vary (normally) from 11(running on a weak battery) all the way to 14(strong charging).
Ideally 12.7v is da best. So i've heard.
>>15436414
this reminds me I need to find a wiring diagram
>>15436414
>>15436670
Better make that 13.7, rather. Made a typo and just noticed it.
>>15436692
yeah that's not good
have you had your battery checked?
>>15436714
huh?
>>15436726
when the battery is losing it's juice, the alternator has to overclock to keep it going.
>>15436414
Sounds good, thanks!
is there any good way to fix rust. All the cars I can afford are really rusted like pic related, there could be a donor car for $400
Just started a bumper swap. Found a better one on Craigslist for cheap. I'll finish tomorrow.
>Page 9
Bumping
>>15436737
13.7v when the engine is running is just about ideal. Cars have 12v batteries yes, but you don't want just 12.0 volts
>>15437413
sanding and welding, bondo
rust converter spray if no fucks for a beater
>>15437413
I'm selling a 75 duster. 6000 bucks, no rust.
>>15437413
Rust like that isn't hard to fix really, just cut out the rot, make a template out of cardboard, and weld in some new metal. It sounds easier than it is of course, but I fixed rust similar to that on my New Yorker last summer and never did it before.
The problem though is the rust you can't see, if the quarters are that bad, then it's likely the floors, trunk, trunk extensions and frame rails likely have rot too, but not always.
Put an H pipe and new Flowmaster 40s under the nova.
Have a listen
https://youtu.be/o7QGW-77XfM
Can anyone tell me what I need to know about replacing an old engine with a crate engine? Is it just a matter of uprooting the old one and connecting everything to the new, or will I need to replace a lot of connecting stuff to fit one?
If it's too involved, I'll probably just take it somewhere if I can find someone who can do the work, but I'd rather try and do it myself.
pic is $400 parts shell, no drivers door
>>15439989
but anon I live in Canadaland
>>15440022
he pulled the original ad and re uploaded but this time without the trunk pic, trunk is really rusty
>>15440132
>unbolt transmission bellhousing bolts
>unbolt torque converter bolts(either by tapping the starter to rotate the engine, with a screwdriver on either the flywheel / flexplate, or via breaker bar from front pulley
>unbolt exhaust(this is going to be the hardest part, probably. usually seized on there). You can also just cut the exhaust pipes right at the manifold and weld a new flange on there or have a shop do it for you
>unbolt motor mounts
>disconnect everything else
>hook up a chain to the intake bolts
>cherry pick it out.
Sometimes you'll have to wiggle the motor loose, but you can get an entire engine out of a car in about an hour with a socket set and ratchet as long as you don't encounter any stuck bolts.
>>15440132
This will give you a good idea of what's involved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIHhI7aROL4
>>15440252
as long as you're swapping in the same family engine you'll have no problems with fitting it in there.
If you're swapping in a different engine, you'll have to research which motor mounts would fit.
With my 400m(replacing a 390) I was told 351m/400 motor mounts from a pick up will allow the 400 to bolt into my galaxie with no mods.
>>15440252
>>15440279
Thanks guys, I think I'll give it a shot.
>>15437413
Cut it off
>>15435886
Why are wagons so fucking expensive?????
>page 8
Well fuck.
>>15436213
HNNNG
How hard is it to swap a th350 for a 700r4?
>>15436197
Looks sweet senpai
![20141019_164358[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xJgqJZN.jpg "20141019_164358[1].jpg")
Barge, you say?
Any Illinois/Wisconsin /ccg/ guys gonna be at the Car Craft Summer Nationals in Milwaukee Saturday? I'll be there with the nova and doing the midnight drags at Great Lakes Dragaway in Union Grove Wisconsin
![20141103_163755[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TmKCoD2.jpg "20141103_163755[1].jpg")
>>15437413
You should look into the make and model of whatever it is you are looking for and see how frequently they have to replace inner structure sheetmetal. Floorpans are cake, Mounts and supports are another thing entirely.
My welder is supposed to be in the mail today.
Anyone have any experience with gas? I'll mostly be doing sheet metal work like body panels and floor pans. Any type of mixes i should buy for this? I've only ever welded with flux core.
Pic related.
>>15436197
Came out great, cometbro. Can't wait to see it done.
page 10 bump
Was going to buy this HG Kingswood for $500 in my area, but chickened out from the rust
>>15444655
that's fucking fucked m8, hardcore.
>>15435947
if you have shielding gas you'll be fine. clean the uck out of the metals though since its rusty and funky
So I deicded to buy an El Camino
What are some common issues I should look for when checking them out?
>>15446921
finding your sister extremely attractive
but the usual stuff
>rust
>worn bearings/bushings
>low compression or bad sounding motor
>super sloppy steering box (more than half a turn of play)
>4 pump brakes
>slipping tranny
>rust
>>15446921
donks
>>15446926
>wincest is an issue
Hell if an El Camino was a guarantee for a hot bangable sister I'd rush out to buy one right now.
>>15446926
>>15446930
Im Mexican, so more Cholo than Wincest
>buy an old Hooker headers sticker
>don't have Hooker headers (yet)
Sh-should I?
>>15446921
El Camino you say?
Picked this up for $600 last november. Put her on the road last week
Holy fuck. Taking that dash off took literally all fucking day. The leak in the windshield made sure every single screw was rusted on and would strip out the second I tried to loosen them.
Fuck ford and fuck their phillips head screws.
>>15447348
Crash pad is dried up, cracking, and just generally fucked. and short of spending ten thousand dollars on a new one, or buying a skin only to have it crack a year down the road, I'm thinking of carving out a new one out of wood and then staining it.
Opinions?
What do ya guys think of pontiac fieros? I wanted to get a 6 cylinder 1985 but i dont have the money just yet. I saw they are recommended in the sticky but I've been getting mixed reviews irl.
>>15447369
use the old one as fiberglass mold
>>15442714
Fuckin' sexy, m8
>>15442718
I'll be there with my dad's nova
FTFY
Rigged up a bracket so the kickdown works, got a tach and a Mexican blanket for the seat.
Almost have all the parts I need for air conditioning.
I really need to fix the cowl rust its just a bit of an undertaking, I don't want to put the carpet in until that leak is fixed.
>>15447410
they have a cult following, but I am not part of any cult
>>15447439
Those hood pins. Where'd you get them?
>>15447440
Is... Is that a good thing? Lol im kinda a car novice i just want a slick manual transmission and this car fits my aesthetics
>>15447468
It's a good thing. Means there will be plenty of resources online for doing shit to it.
Communities centered around a single car can also point out common issues with that particular model as well.
>>15447467
The original owner put those on way back in the day, I just put the pins and wire in them.
I'm sure you can buy ones just like it.
>>15447468
will this be your first car? they are alright, but not that good. you'd be better off just getting a more conventional sports car.
consider japanese honestly.
>>15435886
I would kill someone in front of they mama for a fully restored Connie. Between 70 and 75 I kill they momma, wife and kids also.
>>15447474
I think I am going to start building an engine in the near future. you know any good guides for building a budget mild 300ish hp 351 or 302? preferable 351.
>>15447476
if it's his first car I wouldn't recommend a sports car, though.
if it is, he's probably young. And it's pretty much a given that young men beat their first cars into the ground before they learn their lesson. I know I did. and I know plenty of others who did as well.
>>15447484
I'm sure you can find plenty of articles at hotrod / ford performance
>>15447474
Awww shit. I think I found a match.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/opg-hpk100/overview/
>>15447484
>>15447484
https://www.amazon.com/How-Rebuild-Small-Block-Ford-Design/dp/1932494898/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468633590&sr=8-1&keywords=302+rebuild+book
and
https://www.amazon.com/Ford-Windsor-Small-Block-Performance-HP1558/dp/1557885583/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468633572&sr=8-2&keywords=302+build+book
68 and 69 302s are known to be a really strong block, and 1987+ 302s have forged internals.
>>15442714
I would jack a car like that. Sorry but I'm desperate.
>>15447484
Shit. I forgot to add something.
All you really need to do to achieve decent power from that size engine is to either find a decent pair of heads or port your current ones, then bump up the compression a bit(9.5:1 with smog era heads is as far as you want to go, no quench) with some new pistons. Also always be a bit conservative with cam choices. Also a performer intake and around 600CFM max for those engine sizes.
>>15447512
>>15447519
thanks muh dudes. is there a benefit to choosing 302 over 351? I like more displacement as a theory but we'll see.
>>15447524
Either way you want to go. Those blocks have been done to death and there's plenty of resources out there on how to build one.
>>15447482
The pain in my heart looking at cars like this and living in the Northeast.
>>15447524
>Not just building up your str8 6
>>15435926
What are you doing here?
>>15447558
I've been looking at pick ups for car hauling. I noticed alot of ford 300 straight sixes with manuals are going for cheap. Any experience with them?
I know they won't be fast, but as long as I can maintain 55 on the highway I'm fine.
>>15447567
I'm sure it would be fine, slow yes but the 300 is god tier reliability wise.
I personally like more power than that which is why I swapped my V8 for a V10 but realistically you'll be fine on flat highways and maybe wishing for more power on hills.
>>15447579
>engine swaps to mutant uncommon engine
>doesnt just turbo/ twincharge v8 like sane person
A set of motorcycle handlebars fell out of my garage ceiling and smashed the fuck out of my Porsche's hood today. Please god kill me now
GOAT
>>15435915
I have a 72 coupe, I thought I'd be the only one in the thread.
>>15447616
Literally only option is suicide
>>15447655
Any plans for it?
Pics.
Guy in my area is selling a 76 Mark IV for 3000.
How dumb am I for wanting to buy this and throw a blower on it?
>>15447595
I wanted a V10 Would be easy enough to swap back to a V8 if necessary.
>>15447788
You could do alot worse for $2,000 less.
I'm debating if I can afford a blower for the 460 on this thing to throw into my maverick. If I go blower I'd need to build the motor completely different. or I could go NA power with higher compression. My shoestring budget means if I go blower this car won't be on the road for like 3-4 years.
But a Lincoln with a bug catcher sounds fucking cool. If you have the means then do it.
>>15447803
Yeah something like this would be awesome
Anyone have some cool oldschool helmet designs saved?
Thinking about painting my helmet and I wanted something that looked like the cover of a VHS tape.
>every helmet design ever is over the top stripes and gradients
>>15449136
i painted one of mine
>>15449136
>>15449176
these are both bad ass
i dont have anything other than this one
>>15449136
>painting your helmet
toplel
>>15447512
This information is sort of incorrect.
68-69 "strong blocks" refer to the early 351W blocks. They're still not good for over 500-600 crank hp reliably and will be prone to having cracks.
87-92 HO 5.0s ONLY had the forged pistons and only forged pistons.
Rods and crankshaft were cast and 93-95 and all other non-ho blocks will have hyperutectic or however you spell that shit pistons. Those blocks will also crack at 500 crank and the stock internals forged or not will only last up to around 350-400 crank. Unless you were never going to do anything else to it I would never recommend a stock ford block considering the cost to have it rebuilt/decked/etc. is only 500-800 dollars less than a brand new dart shp.
Ported stock heads, 9.5:1, a small cam, performer intake, and 600 cfm would probably net you 300 crank and 240-250 to the wheels. You would be hard pressed to go much over the 300 whp mark without at least gt40 heads and a bigger cam/intake.
>>15447524
If you have the clearance for the added deck height on the 351W there is no reason to go with a 302. Absolutely no benefit besides maybe weight and being able to rev higher (not in stock form). 351W will have more hp, more torque, and make the power you want without losing the street manners. 300 whp from a 351W is a sneeze.
>>15446953
Touche
![pic28[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5xYZaqt.jpg "pic28[1].jpg")
>>15435886
YUROpoop here
why cant more people do something different instead of driving sub 2l cuckcars
>>15450037
Isn't gas expensive as all fuck over there?
Oh fuck, should I do it boys?
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/5657209220.html
>>15451864
Yes.
Ever seen I first saw this I've always wanted it. Something about it appeals to me. I'm not even sure if I would paint it. It looks pretty fucking good right now.
>>15451725
yeah it is. but even rich people still drive euro cars. never any fucking american cars and no classics
