Has any automaker fallen from grace further than Honda?
>S2000
>NSX
>Prelude
>Integra
>RSX Type S
>CSX Type S
>Del Sol
>CRX
>Si/S/Type R variants galore
>simple, attractive designs
>screaming NA engines
>fun, lightweight, no-bullshit cars
Now
>nothing sporty beside Civic Si
>CRZ is an utter failure
>ugly chrome spaceship styling
>everything is heavy and bloated
>engines lost their personality (but at least they have torque?)
What went so very wrong?
FUCKING NORMIES went wrong.
>>15430088
pretty much the same with nissan and mazda
only companies making good cars now are american and italian
>>15430139
Also subaru
Still driving my S2000. Hopefully it will last long enough for a replacement to be on the market.
>>15430139
I want to like Mazda for the lightweight engineering in the new Miata, and for still having "steering feel" in their vocabulary, but
>no cars with more than 190hp
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>15430088
Same shit happened to Toyota
>>15430139
>italians
yeah nah
>mid 90's prelude with a old motor and straight body
>k24a2 longblock, harness and ecu from a TSX
>hasport bbk1 mounts, axles, and harness
>do the swap yourself over a few weekends
>hondata k pro and a tune
This is how you Honda in 2016
>>15430088
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-honda-idUSKCN0VW26I
>Over the years, our product development process became overly complex and slow, involving a huge number of engineers and sales and marketing people," said one of the two Honda executives. As a result, "we began producing watered down, uninspiring, what you might call designed-by-committee, cars."
Hopefully this change happens soon though.
>>15430088
>ugly chrome spaceship styling
>everything is heavy and bloated
Literally every brand.
>>15430214
This is almost exactly what I'd do for my first project car. Nobody likes the BB4 but its easily my favorite honda
>>15430221
this same thing is happening with everything....
>>15430088
Toyota did, except they just keep sinking several of those 30b net annual profits into the heaviest handed marketing in the entire auto industry so the gullible plebes are still clinging
>>15430221
>designed-by-committee, cars."
Also known as Toyota's Disease
why did honda stop producing s2k's? i'd honestly purchase a new AP3
>>15430221
>>15430088
It's renaissance has yet to come.
>>15430214
>prelude
fackin why
its their worst car
>>15430957
Sedan has an awkward shape.
Coupe is plain ugly.
But this hatch makes my dick hard.
>>15430988
Shame it'll be 230hp, 3200lbs, and 28k dollars.
>>15430988
I dont mind the sedans , but any civic coupe after the ej have horrendous designs, like look at this shit, who the fuck said "i like this design"
>>15431085
I like that design.
Are S2000s even really Hondas? I mean they're RWD.
>>15431085
>>15431157
Yeah honestly I like that design too. Also like the 2012 design.
Wait for the spirior ;)
>>15431085
Fight me.
The only thing keeping it from being perfect is it should've been a lift-back like the Integra.
Mazda
>>15430088
You seem to be underestimating the Honda Accord V6.
Sure, it's heavier than the Civic, but it's still quicker and faster.
278 hp>205 hp
>>15430139
The British make the best cars for middle class people who want something fun to drive.
>>15430139
>american
>>15430139
Mazdas line is gold. Nissan has always mostly been shitty since their name change.
>del sol
Hoholholhohohol
>>15432221
Please tell me why a Del Sol is a bad car.
Honda's greatest fault was only building one generation of some of its greatest cars.
>S2k
>NSX
>CRX (del slow doesn't count)
>Beat
What were they thinking?
>be Honda
>see wild success of Miata in America
>see other companies (BMW, Merc, Toyota) build competitors
>wait 10 years to join in
The things I would do for a 1994 Honda S1600 with a B16A2.
>>15432678
>Honda has a third RWD car
Neat
>>15432678
>s2k,nsx, crx, beat
>one generation
>>15432765
>rwd is all that matters
>>15430141
What good cars does Subaru have now other than the BRZ? The WRX is halfway between an econobox and a sportscar, and the STi is so overpriced for what you're getting these days.
