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>>15385161
>>15387990
he put a rear tire on the front. He should have at least had the sense to mount it backwards
>>15388023
Why?
>>15388030
>look mum i posted it again
>>15388026
Front tires usually have the tread facing the opposite way. I can't explain the reason but I pretty much all street bike front tires have their tread grooves pointing towards the rear.
>>15388043
I never understood that in general, would think that would direct water to in front of the wheel instead of moving it out of the way
I really want a pair of boots but they're expensive
>>15388047
Maybe because it might cause water to be pushed under the wheel while turning?
>>15388052
A pair of good boots is like €100-150
>>15388047
Probably because cornering traction needs to be maximized. You don't want to lean the bike over and suddenly be hydroplaning
>>15388043
Front tire needs to be able to stop the bike. Rear tires job is to propel it forward. So they both need maximum grip/structural integrity for opposite directions.
>>15388054
>>15388059
then why does the rear tyre tread go the opposite direction?
>>15388043
It's for traction, duh.
>most important traction for front tire = braking = thread to rear
>most important traction for rear = acceleration = thread to front
Mounting your front wheel the same way as the rear is supposed to go improves wear resistance but hinders grip when braking or slowing down, also makes it hydroplane easier.
Mounting your rear tire the way your front tire is supposed to go makes it skid under acceleration and worsens wear but improves resistance to hydroplaning, grip and braking
I always get different answers on this:
What's a stickier tire, the Pilot Power or Pilot Power 2CT?
I had originally thought the 2CT was just a Power with a harder center compound, but it seems like it may have a softer compound on the sides instead.
>>15388075
The 2CT is mostly the same as the normal PP but the edges are slightly softer. Most people never even lean the bike far enough to get to the softer compound.
>>15387791
X T 6 0 0
T
6
0
0
but don't buy the recent ones, 3TB max
2KF a best
43F second best
3TB a bit heavier but still ok
everything later is 180kg+
>>15387888
>Wr no, stop
b-but anon pls
>>15388114
>the shovel
>inb4 wranon digs holes in the beach at Bled lake
>>15388114
No backpack, it's fucking annoying having a backpack on log rides.
The hoodie is superficial, and you can get a cheaper jacket.
Also digging with your hand is more fun
>>15388141
Not hard to strap a backpack to your bike then put it on your back when you want to get off.
>>15388145
Yeah you don't need an alpinestar riding backpack for that.
>>15388141
>>15388127
>using a Klappspaten vor digging
guise pls https://youtu.be/kTpuzBVgNaE
also that's just the "if i had money" list. I'm making a "what I actually need" list now.
should be about at least 600 bucks less kek
>>15388150
You do if you want to be a walking meme like wranon.
>>15388153
Make it a "what I need for SEM" list. That is your only priority right now.
>>15388163
I love how they hid the pipes on that bike giving it such a sexy tail. 8/10
>>15388154
this 2bh
just look at the colors
>>15388162
>implying the shovel wouldn't be needed at the SEM
I'm looking for a new helmet, is there a rating for noise isolation?
On the sharp rating website there's nothing mentioned about it.
>>15388052
Find some on sale. I got a 300$ pair for under 60$ yesterday
>>15388179
W-where?
>>15388176
Not that I 'm aware of. I know Schuberth are pretty well known for quiet helmets.
>>15388185
Local cycle gear.
Also got a couple sets of gloves and helmet for the grill. They always have something on sale
>>15388190
Yeah but they're also butt expensive.
>>15388193
>being poor.
Why tho
>>15388056
Also the pair that I want is a touring model, but I'm afraid they might be too hindering.
And road boots are so much cheaper... but I don't like them ;_;
>>15388162
I did, now at 714€
if I ditch the tires and the new carbs the bike or me may die at the SEM but I'd save a lot of money.
will look where I can save now.
>>15388176
even if your helmet is 'quiet' you are still damaging your ears if you dont have earplugs
>>15388167
>>15388163
Ok vote for me
>>15388209
I know you think you're being silly or trying to make someone upset but please stop.
>newbike ready to be picked up at dealership
>can't pick it up in 2 days
KILL ME
>>15388216
>>15388208
Do you really need new tires and carb? What are your tires like?
I was looking at my tires earlier and they still have enough tread but they're squared, showing minor cracks and over seven years old so I'm thinking it would be best to replace them.
>>15388218
left
>>15388226
im not. helmets cant protect your ears from the pressure.
>>15388226
>implying he's not right
>>15388235
B-but money
>>15388218
Initially left but boots on right seem to have the same level of protection plus toe sliders. Who needs ratchet straps on their boots anyway?
> tfw you will never ride around on a naked Busa wearing a cool scifi helmet and bringing your .50 cal with you in case of stubborn cagers
>>15388231
I'm not sure about the carbs, but it seems like it's leaking a little bit from somewhere. And these carbs would also mean more power.
I don't know how old my tires are, I looked at them a few days ago but I forgot already.
>>15388242
>tfw no money
>>15388251
>Who needs ratchet straps on their boots anyway?
MX BRO
> everyone is making preparations for SEM and getting hype
> I'll miss it and won't have a chance to get hookers with WR anon
Just kill me now.
On the plus side, have all Thursday to ride twisties. Nogfanymore feels have been replaced by fuckthatbitchifshewantsotherpeoplesdicksIllfindvaginasformyselfaswell feels. </blog>
Now vote, where do I ride on Thursday to potentially kill myself on the toegay.
> twisties to the east that I already know + explore some new ones there
> twisties to the north that I sort of know because I went there once with the car a month ago
> twisties to the south that may or may not be twisty I haven't explored yet
> to the west where Street Triple anon knows what's up
Last option only applies if ST guy has time.
>>15387990
I need some help for my son
I'm a motorcycle enthusiast, and I've been grooming my son to be one as well, and although I am well versed in my own European laws, my son lives in Georgia and I have no idea how their laws work. I want to get him a 49cc cagiva mito, however I don't know of that specific 49cc would fall under moped or mini bike because of its class, or if it would be treated as a full blown cycle. I'm trying to make sense of the laws right now but I don't really get them, so could anyone clear up this little conundrum for me? Would I be able to get him this bike or would I have to settle for a Vespa or something like that
>>15388277
Fuck everything and come to sem, you don't have a gf anymore, you don't need plans for the future.
>>15388255
just buy a sealing kit for your carbs for now, you can get a new carb later
>>15388218
Gortex Alpinestars.
>>15388284
The gf wasn't the reason why I am not going to SEM. I need a new place because fuck flatsharing, I want a new PC (6 year old ALDI Laptop is shit), license upgrade, full leathers, CBF600, track days brah and a Miata.
Will definitely save moneys to come to SEM next year again, even if it means delaying new bike / track days / Miata plans. But PC is urgent now and flat even more so.
But maybe I'll ride down to Cologne for a long weekend and get hookers with WR anyways ;^)
>pls kill me
>>15388283
Get him something that cant be plated, like a 80cc dirtbike or something like that.
>>15388288
I guess you'r eright, I don't ride the TT that long so I don't need more power yet.
>>15388277
come to SEM pls
>>15388305
Could be worse, not a fan of those headlights tho
>>15388305
All of my keks
>>15388218
looks like you're comparing off-road boots to roadrace boots. You'll likely find the left to be stiffer, bulkier, taller, heavier, and generally less practical if you ever need to walk around in them off the bike. However they should be more protective for your feet, ankles, and lower legs
>>15388291
Even more expensive and I' don't like 'em
>>15388305
>>15388317
Not the best looking. But pretty comfy. Can't wait to test um out in really bad weather
>>15388305
>SV wants to be SXV
>>15388323
This is now a round headlight thread
>>15388333
>>15388333
Can I play?
>>15388342
> australia
>oh shit lol
>>15388323
DOCTOR BIG
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If I win lotto today. You're all coming to nz with complementary beers.
>>15388367
I'm up for this shit anon, count me in
>ordered stainless steel headers for 180€
>want to buy Sena SMH10R for 175€
since I can't come to SEM I guess I could buy the Sena.
>>15388371
noice skid uleh
>>15388367
Allrighty then
>SWM HOUSE
>>15388369
>stock exhaust
>driver on the left
MMMM
>>15388371
cuk
>>15388370
Hell yeah>>15388378
SWM pls explain
>>15388367
NOICE
>>15388392
S W M
W
M
>>15388367
Yes, invite a bunch of 4channers over after winning lots of cash. What could go wrong?
>>15388406
Sexy Wranon Meatcock?
>>15388414
Who said I'd be with them. And who says they would ever be able to leave. It'd be motorbike hunger games
>>15388417
YOU KNOW IT ;)
>>15388420
What's the prize
>>15388428
my dick
>>15388420
>cb400 is out first, quickly followed by the apriliafags, cucktms and the nuda
>the others die of old age before their jap shitbikes
>mv anon is winner because he just got his parts
how do i lease a motorcycle? i just learned this is a thing
>>15388438
>die of old age
>mfw I'm not even 20
kek!
>>15388422
Mum always said you were manly
>>15388428
As the other anon said. My dick. Or alternatively a bimota dbx with full supermoto trim.
>>15388441
Is your skin darker than your shadow?
If not it's quite possibly the worst idea you ever came up with
>>15388443
wow it looks pregnant. i guess the wideness helps areo
>>15388413
Fahr mal zu wranon, dann komm ich auch vorbei :^)
>>15388446
>Mum
s-stop showing your mother pictures of me
>>15388438
>insulting the nuda
You're not invited
>>15388450
It's alright son even your sister would fuck you
>>15388447
i like the idea of getting a new bike every two years and i dont want to mod it anyway
>>15388451
>guy who bought the euro-italo-ktm abomination invests in lotto
Why am i not surprised
>>15388453
Do you like the idea of your wife getting fucked by a different guy every 2 years?
Your money, your decision... It'll still be a very dumb one
>>15388461
Nah I invest in bullion. But thx
>>15388461
its cheap, and i dont really see a downside for my situation. i would be delighted to have a new bike and not have a lot of equity in it
>>15388452
but I'm virgin :^)
>>15388448
JUST LIKE YOURE MOTHER LMAO!
>>15388449
fugg :-DDD
>>15388470
im a virgin too, lets fap
>>15388469
Then clearly you don't belong on a motorcycle
You sure you're not in the market for a camry or some shit like that?
>>15388470
No don't do it. Nooo I'm a virgin
Also WRanon when are you gonna slap some modern suspension on your tt
>>15388480
Leave him alone my dude. If he's got the cash to spend. He can do what he wants. Alternatively he could by a bicycle with a dildo instead of a seat
>>15388480
i have a bike now. its paid for.
does that mean im not interested in leasing for my next bike? NO
>>15388488
Sounds like Baird lost his trip
>>15388476
no homo m8
i'd make an exception if your'e ybr grill
>>15388482
it has Öhlins suspension, I'd first buy new tires and new carbs before fucking around with suspension
>>15388438
>mv anon is winner because he just got his parts
Ayyyy I'm okay with this.
>>15388495
Pls restore it to showroom condition. It'd be worth megabux
Just realized my front rim has 6 spokes, while my rear 5
>>15388438
>implying mv anons bike would even work properly
>>15388500
i'll do the exact opposite
>>15388510
They're supposed to have like 9000 spokes per wheel. What have you done
>>15388517
You're really dead set on never even smelling a vagina ever, are you?
>>15388521
*missing
>>15388528
How tf are your rims even stable
>>15388535
I have no idea, can i buy them individually or what?
>>15388528
I survived 20 years without it, and I don't feel the need to do so, so I think yes. I will survive at least another 20 years without doing so.
>>15388538
Generally you have to buy packs. Also if your rims are that rekt you should just get new wheels all together. Better ones.
Or you could do the long hard thing and find where you can buy some spokes and then learn how to install them.
>>15388541
I betcha 100€ you'll be with someone by 30
>>15388546
New (used) wheels would be ~1k, i don't have that kind of cash
>>15388551
What bike
>>15388553
Yz450
>>15388556
Ok. Shouldn't be too hard to deal with. Go into your local yamaha dealer and tell them your issue and ask where you can get spokes. Or you can use mr google
>>15388551
>you'll be with someone by 30
yeah
with my parents :^)
How do I buy a motorcycle from a private seller? If I give the seller cash and take the bike they could say I stole it and never received payment. I hate cutting paper. Explain like I'm a moron. Can I ride it home? In what order do I get the title/tag/insurance? I live in Florida. Thanks!
I need WAT and /dbt/ stickers for my baiku... where?
>>15388564
Save all your correspondence. Get them to transfer ownership. Take pictures of the prev owners license. Just get shit that'll save your bacon in court. Really easy.
>>15388572
you'll die
>>15388572
What he said >>15388579
There's a batch notoriously cursed
>>15388579
I'm assuming I need to save this file and take it to a sticker guy?
...
Besides I also want dank webms of me rubbing my stickers.
>>15388591
Don't, everyone who got one had his bike totaled in a matter of months
>>15388603
Except for one guy.
>>15388591
Answered your question in the /osg/ thread.
>>15388607
It's a matter of time
>>15388607
Key is not to put it on your bike.
>>15388630
>inb4 coma
>>15388579
I'll throw this on the MV once it's all fixed and good and see what happens. Maybe you need to crash once for the sticker to lose its effect.
>>15388630
You got it m8
>>15387990
Where the FUCK is the coolant drain screw for the EX500, I cant find it online and there's no obvious screws on the coolant system
>>15388627
thanks brosef.
>>15388607
>>15388628
>>15388630
Maybe the helmet the (this shit sounds chain letter tier), Anyways, WAT sticker then.
>>15388650
do you have to crack the water pump housing? on mine you do
>>15388672
do you have an ex500?
>first bike, don't have gear yet
>cousin lends me his old first motorbike helmet (Shoei)
>get own helmet and intend to return other to cousin
>find out he's divorcing my biological cousin
>haven't seen him since
Free helmet! Ayy lmao.
>>15388649
I'm so jealous at that scenery
>>15388685
If it's older than 4-5 years you may as well use it as a food bowl cause it ain't gonna protect shit
Hey wranon, where in Germany do you live? (roughly) Just wondering if you would be directly on my SEM route. (meme2dream)
>not being on the map
>>15388511
That idiot was rambling about June 6 and getting his turd running but I see his shit bike is still down.
>>15388710
somewhat near the Ring m80
>>15388710
he lives in buxtehude
Rad fan not coming on. Tested switch with multi meter and its showing 12 v so its got to be the motor ?
How easy to remove radiator and fan for an absolute noob ?
>>15388603
>totaled
Mine was fixed for <€500 in a regular garage
>>15388669
Nah, mate
2 guys fell off a cliff over this
One died
>>15388721
>buxtehude
Easier than the diagram makes it look.
>>15388729
>mfw he had to look where buxtehude is
>>15388721
le Honda meme
>>15388745
It's not even near le ring.
>>15388745
> Buxtehude
> nicht Cuxhaven
>>15388758
>Cuxhaven
>nicht borkum
>>15388369
dat Royal Jordanian look
ooooo yeahhh
>>15388763
> cum
haha
>>15388369
I didn't realise his camera set up was so fkn extensive, his videos are exceptional quality though so maybe I should expect it
>>15388721
It was 4 bolts on my radiator. Are you sure it's the fan itself though and not the relay?
Check all that shit before you assume it's the motor. You should also be able to jump the connection that turns on the fans to see if your temp sensor is bad.
>tfw first bike
I need to find some cool roads near me
>>15388780
nice cruiser faggot
>>15388780
500cc? Looks noice.
>>15388780
>Buying a new bike as your first
Not much different from mine though. At least you have a kickstart.
>dat helmet
I suggest buffing in some shaving cream on the inside of the visor as it likes to fog up really easy. happy riding familam.
>>15388780
Is that an SR400?
Looks great but it really bothers me that they made it kick-start only.
>>15388780
>>15388810
is it EFI?
Picking a new helmet is such a pain in the ass
>>15388786
It's a standard, famirino :^)
>>15388791
>>15388797
I couldn't find a used 500 near me so I settled for the 400 new. Thanks for the tip.
Looked the routes I might take, I probably will go something like this.
It's at least 3 days riding without taking highways, I thought it was 2.
>>15388816
Next time don't try to shove them into your ass.
>>15388810
Yup. It's sort of a pain right now but pretty soon I'll be used to it. It would be nice to have the option for an electric start though.
>bike licence is $300 (yurpeen here)
>can't be bothered to dump lots of money into a car and insurance, i don't have anyone else to drive with anyway
>look like a lanky faggot, tall and very thin so issues, yeah i know i shouldn't care what others think of me but still
>the idea of maintaining my own bike makes me happy
but goddamn aren't i so fucking lazy. i've also been in a car accident so bikes worry me even more.
>>15388824
Are you literally planning every single road or is Google selecting most of them for you? Will you be using a GPS or paper map?
>not taking any highways
Jesus.
Guys I fucked up
>riding my '97 ninja 250 down country road
>horny as hell
>get on 4chan with phone mounted to handlebars
>go to /gif/
>start jacking off while cruising because deserted road
>not paying attention, about to cum
>hear honk in front of me
>look up and realize I'm in the wrong lane with an suv coming straight at me
>let go of my dick and grab a handful of brake while attempting to turn
>my erect cock slams hard into the speedometer
>FUCK
>put my dick up and ride home crying under my helmet
Now here I am with a fucking purple cock because I couldn't wait
>>15388835
>I've also been in a car accident so bikes worry me even more.
Quit being a faggot and go do it. I look lanky as fuck, I've been in both a car accident and a motorcycle accident and still fucking ride even though my shit is STILL broken.
If I can do it you can too. I believe in you, anon. Now go do some dank willies.
>>15387990
>2 inch fork travel
>>15388833
Yeah I mean I get the appeal of making a classic looking bike, I love how it looks and my girlfriend really likes it, but the kickstart really is a bummer. Generally it wouldn't be a problem, but say you stall in traffic or something, it'd be a major pain in the dick to get started compared to an electric start.
>>15388812
I don't think so but it easily could have been.
>>15388847
>being retarded
If the inner memebrane is broken then you're probably gonna have a fuckload of blood pooling there and should see a doctor.
>>15388847
You're entirely retarded. It's a shame you didn't hit the SUV and cleanse yourself from the gene pool.
>>15388847
>he jacks off with the left
>>15388824
I swear to god if you make it to bled before I do I'm gonna be upset.
Are you planning to stop in cortina in the second map?
>>15388844
Just picking two places between my house and Bled, letting google do the rest. Not definitive places yet, I have to look for some cheap hotels for the nights I'll be alone.
Highway riding is boring as fuck, rather not use them.
I'll use a GPS like always.
>>15388857
no it's EFI, although air cooled ... wtf yamaha
>>15388848
thanks anon. maybe i won't get a licence now but i hope i will next year, cars are making me depressed.
>>15388824
> Keulen
holy lmao
>>15388835
do it homo
>>15388871
Then that's just baffling. Maybe you can rig up an electric starter or something?
>>15388871
It makes something to the tune of 40hp. It's plenty for a beginner bike and usable enough. Shit, I passed a CBR1000R on the outside of a corner on this pos and it only makes 33hp stock, and I was missing my left cylinder at the time.
>adding weight for an extra 20hp worth of potential
>>15388541
that thumbnail gets me every time
>>15388867
>I swear to god if you make it to bled before I do I'm gonna be upset.
Managed it last time, even with a 24h delay on my part so I'll slow down a bit (like my bruised wrist doesn't hinder me enough)
Just a temporary place, don't know the nice places/roads in that area.
>>15388888
>It makes something to the tune of 40hp.
>I passed a CBR1000R on the outside
quints for honda a shit lmao
>>15388888
the german yamaha site lists it with 23 hp
>drum brake in the back
>mfw
>>15388893
you picking me up on the way, kutje?
>>15388899
23hp on the UK site too.
>>15388899
on that note, holy shit is the xsr900 sexy
>>15388904
Which one are you?
>>15388924
wranons sister.
>>15388924
we met before
>>15388918
It's a shame it's so pigfat and underpowered, because I'd love an XJR1300 racer.
>>15388927
>wranons sister.
>>15388930
I've met several, but I have an idea. No, you cannot sit on the back.
>>15388942
yeah 98 hp with 220 kg dry is pretty abysmal. why do all these modern yamahas look great, but are so damn weak?
>>15388893
>Just a temporary place, don't know the nice places/roads in that area.
Allright, we're gonna be in Cimolais the 28 if you wanna join us
>>15388949
you're so close to getting the right person, anon
>>15388962
>98 hp with 220 kg dry is pretty abysmal
I have 85hp with 250kg wet, I don't think it's that bad.
Why even ride a motorcycle? If you crash, you are probably gona die. They just seem really death trappy.
>>15388962
Yeah it's a shame there aren't many bikes from the factory that look so good, the new Kawasaki Z900 has a classic looking version that looks super cool, I'll be keeping an eye on it for sure.
Other than that, the only bike I can think of with classic looks with decent performance is the R Nine T.
>>15388973
maybe for a tourer, but the XJR1300 racer is definitely not that
>>15388977
you only live once
>>15388973
What bike is that?
Also I'm not saying it's terrible, I'm running 196kg and 47hp and it's enough for a bit of fun, but more would be nice.
>>15388977
why even step out of the door? if you get hit by a car, you are probably going to die
>>15388985
No you don't
>>15388981
>dat paint
>>15388977
I'm enjoying myself until I finally die
>>15388981
>Kawasaki Z900
i'm hearing about this for the first time now. from your picture alone, what really stands out to me is the engine casing/intake which doesn't fit at all to the rest of the bike
>R Nine T
you're probably right, although the boxer engine with the aggressive looking fins doesn't fit into the whole classic/vintage thing as well. although it is the most powerful of them
>>15388988
same here, 191 kg wet and 48 hp makes for some decent fun, but there's always more
Wew
>>15388969
This is just annoying.
>>15388988
R1150GS
>>15389018
>what really stands out to me is the engine casing/intake which doesn't fit at all to the rest of the bike
Could be because of the supercharger. Which lets me forgive that.
And with the R Nine T, I guess the engine does break the shape up a little bit, a version with a smaller displacement engine based on the S1000R block would be awesome, maybe a same design engine but a 600, with the classic design.
>>15389025
>R1150GS
Well that's different then, whilst it's a bike that you can get some speed on, it's no ta bike that gives the impression of being a fast machine, whereas if you're gonna give a bike a retro racer look, and even call it a 'Racing' model, it'd be nice if they either put it on a diet, or beefed up the engine.
>>15389028
like this? i saw that bike live and it's amazing
>>15388981
Triumph to the rescue again.
>>15389042
le funny fake carb meme
>>15388777
>and not the relay?
The circuit is showing 12V on meter.
>jump the circuit
Grounded and turned the ignition, no fan
>>15389025
>>15389065
Do you have your license yet?
>>15389078
since about a week or so, yes.
>>15389040
Damn that looks good.
Yeah something like that, or this which is an R Nine T. Though I don't know why they didn't keep the upside down forks.
>>15389125
yeah it looks amazing. probably my most favourite custom bike
>>15389139
It does look good. Honda are revamping the CB1100 (though I imagine it'll be just like the XJR1300 Racer), but it'd be cool if they got on the retro train.
>mfw 9/10 people who ask what bike you ride have never heard of it before
>>15389157
well what bike is it?
>>15389164
It's Eye-talian, you've probably never heard of it before.
>>15389180
>literally one of the most famous erupean brands
>>15389180
>the lesser known but even worse in reliability Italian bike
18 y/o student here, I don't browse /o/ much at all but it's now time for me to get some way of moving around and I found a Lexmoto ZSX 124cc bike up for £375 over autotrader. It's done 17,024 miles, and I haven't checked up on what the insurance might be yet - but from these figures, do you guys think it's worth it?
In addition, what are some common problems I should look for when I go to investigate it? I'm a complete beginner to biking, and I haven't even taken a CBT yet.
>>15389210
It depends on how long you plan being on a 125. If you're just gonna ride it for a month whilst you get your test, go for it, if you plan on riding any longer, spend more on a better bike, as that thing will fall apart very quickly.
Good night /dbt/.
>>15389210
Do your CBT first, buy the bike second.
>>15389231
Night yuropoor
Thinking of getting a Yamaha R3 this week, good beginner bike?
>>15389298
If you're not a total idiot you should just get a litre bike. Don't fall for the beginner bike meme.
>>15389298
buy used
>>15389298
Yep, pretty much perfect. Fast enough to have fun, slow enough to give you thinking time as you progress.
As >>15389298 said, buy used if you can.
>>15389307
Are you buying it for your nephew? :^)
