Is Loeb the greatest rally driver ever? If not then who is?
He is. And that's official
He's the most winningest rally driver ever. And if that makes him the greatest, so be it.
But he's still alive.
>>15382253
Sainz + Moya
>>15382253
Juha Kankkunen
>>15382318
>>15382327
Has anyone of these even made record breaking run on Pike's Peak?
>>15382303
>tfw you'll never see Loeb competing in Group B
>>15382382
isn't Pikes Peak hillclimb and not rally
He has the most wins and I like him, but I can't place anyone but the group B drivers as the greatest rally drivers of all time
>>15382382
Ari Vatanen's record was only broken when they paved part of the hill climb
>>15382418
Isn't hillclimb a subtype of rally? Like you can have rally hillclimbs?
>>15382418
>>15382433
Pikes peak became associated with rally after the group B ended and the drivers went on to tackle the climb on group B cars. Back then it was all dirt, I don't consider it similar to rallying nowadays since the entire course is now asphalt
>>15382253
He's good, but his competition has been sub-par.
But even that can't take away the fact he's a nine-time World Champion, thats fucking amazing desu
>win everything because all the real competition quit or was regulated out
>GREATEST OF ALL TIME
>WE WILL SUCK YOUR DICK FOREVER MORE, MONSIEUR LOEB
kill yourselves
>>15382433
not really, they're different motorsports
>>15382463
>all the real competition
who ?
>>15382483
Subaru
Mitsubishi
Peugeot
the gooks and FWD shitboxes don't count
>>15382759
I think he meant competition in terms of drivers.
>>15382794
in 2002 (loeb's first season in WRC)
Markus Gronholm
Carlos Sainz
Colin McRae
Richard Burns
Tommi Makinen
Petter Solberg
>>15382812
in 2009
Sebastien Loeb
Mikko "I grenade engines like ISIS grenades Baghdad" Hirvonen
22 other has-beens
>>15382812
>>15382823
Both correct. The competition dropped way off the last few years desu. All the star names retired or moved on
>>15382253
>B-But muh Group B...
>M-Muh real machines driven by men and not boys
>M-Muh obstructing crowds
>>15382253
Stig Blomqvist
>>15382450
>>15382433
'rally' is just racing set points, called 'stages'. it has nothing to do with whether it's dirt or asphalt
the monte carlo rally would be a rally that's set on a mountain pass