https://youtu.be/S5NWcdq4Wf4?t=65
>subaru drivers
>FWD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J22HgKY4Ec4
>>15381919
>Orido being a shitter.
>subaru drivers
>>15381961
>implying you're better
>implying FF isn't just shitty
>>15381917
is that car rwd?
how does that happen?
>>15381919
Kek I love Keiichi's laugh the second the EG goes into the ditch.
>>15383026
The second time* oops
I GUTTED MY SEDAN AND WELDED THE REAR DOORS SHUT
AM I COOL?
>>15381980
>twingo drivers
he didn't even go that fast, what the fuck happened really?
>>15382999
>panic
>lift/brake while turning
>weight comes off the rear and it kicks out
>keep panicking
>not applying a little throttle to balance out
>more panick
>rear end keeps coming around
>jesus take the wheel
>>15381917
literally how?
>>15383061
Americans can't into corners m8
>>15381917
As the car sails over the cliff side, the reflection of a "REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT" ribbon is seen in the windshield.
I laughed harder than I should have.
>>15381917
looks like he had some shit tires that had no traction and his dumbass was accelerating because muh tunnel noise
>>15383061
Braking during the corner instead of before it.
>MUH AWD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-xnw568hNo
>OH NO OH NO
Birth of a new meme?
>>15383349
fuck off to 9gag
>>15383349
>QUICK! Can someone make this a meme please?? Thx. xD
>>15383211
>he can't into trail braking
Legit question: is the saying "when in doubt, throttle out" really true?
Does it apply to FF and RWD?
>>15383818
No. It isn't. It's a sure fire way to get the less experienced in more trouble.
>>15383844
So just let off the throttle and counter steer then?
Honestly worried if I were to get a real car with real horses and I let the back end go.
>>15381917
*HUUUUGH* OH NO OH NO
>>15381917
>OH NO
OH NO
>OH NO
OH NO
>OH NO
OH NO
>OH NO
OH NO
>STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY STAY
>>15382999
>drive into low visiblity area at excessive speed
>come out and immediately have to turn
>turn too much while breaking, inducing oversteer
>Subie driver can't into duriftu and keeps braking while oversteering, not allowing his car to correct
>Subie is introduced to cliffside
![[heavy breathing].gif](https://i.imgur.com/bP8sI1B.gif "[heavy breathing].gif")
>>15383818
TL;DR cadance throttle/brake is what you want, depending on the situation and drivetrain
Think of it like this: a set of tires has lost traction? Well, what can you do help the situation?
If you lost front end traction, don't niggerstomp the brake (anymore?), and be gentle(r) with the steering. You will probably have to momentarily unwind the steering wheel some amount (again, that is dictated by the specific car and situation), ideally keeping a bit of braking applied (obviously not too easy in real-world scenarios, but it's what you should aim to do), to maintain the weight transferred to the front tires (therefore getting more traction), BUT without overloading them. If you lost rear end traction, carefully apply throttle (cadance throttling, although not as smooth as proper throttle modulation, still works) and, if FWD/AWD, you generally steer where you want your 9 second Civic/SoccermomUV to go. If RWD, mostly steer to correct the pendulum effect of the slide and keeping the car from Equinoxing, don't touch the brakes until the vehicle has settled down or you're lolEquinox'd because of weight transference
Now, I advise you take this with a grain of salt, since my only experience is limited to *way too many hours* of being proffeshunul racekar drivur in GTR2, rFactor, and Richard Burns Rally, and my real-world experience is limited to sub-200 whorespower cars. I also have experience with only one AWD SUV and one FWD shitbox, so I don't have much to say on dynamically unfucking AWD/FWD platforms, but if I remember correctly, I have applied everything I mentioned in my post, even just as a proof of concept, at least a couple times
In any case, I suggest you read Bob Bondurant's books on performance driving, and maybe even police and pursuit driving, since they're easy to come by. If not those, then reading any book from a proper author with experience in real-world scenarios is the way to go. Even if it's just a handbook, it's absolutely worth it
>>15383818
in a spin, both feet in
>>15384130
Thank you for this reply.
Learned a lot from it and on /o/ of all places.
>>15384164
Glad to help!
>>15381917
won't let me upload the webm with sound
here you go guys
webmshare . com/play/GaDB7
>>15381917
>>15383061
he said he exited the tunnel around 95mph, there's no fucking way he's going that fast. it didn't even look like he was going too fast for that turn, it looked like he just decided to drive off the cliff
>>15381919
Topkek
also
>Keiichi's laugh at FWD
>>15382999
understeer and the lack of a limited slip differential.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQWPumtDXk0
>>15384395
In dash video looks slower than it is, not sure why but i've had the same experience with my recorded videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHz-9bBnjI
subes always trying to fly
>>15384633
It's the fish eye lens.
That being said, I still don't think he was going 95. No way he would have made that corner at all if he had been. That was a 25 mph turn, taking it at 95 would have put him straight into the cliff wall, not skidding into the inside of the corner.
Dude just doesn't want to admit he's a shit driver.
>>15384858
>NPC pop-in
>>15383349
Don't ever post here again
>>15383083
>>15381917
I guess you could say he forgot to remove before flight
>>15384858
http://www.superpose.tv/?v=WffqLfOrzW#
>>15387285
> Blowing sick clouds in the clouds, bro.
Just got back from work, literally just happened:
>at intersection, making a left
>car approaching, so I'm in the intersection waiting for that car to pass
>subaru driver behind me gets impatient
>tries to pass me on my left to go around me
>crashes head on with car that was driving through intersection
my phone died while I was at work, so unfortunately no hilarious pics, but holy kek, if only the subaru owner died..
The problem with Subaru's AWD drive system is: the engine hangs in front of the front axle. This creates a high moment of inertia and a FWD-like 60/40 weight distribution. When not on the gas, it reverts to FWD-like handling and braking characteristics.
>>15387560
Although that certainly isn't a positive point drivetrain-wise, I'd say the real problem is the driver not knowing what to do when the vehicle starts doing shit he/she/xe doesn't expect it to do, and all they aim to do is BRAKEBRAKEBRAKE and they end up Equinoxing
Also, many people put get way too much confidence from the seemingly magickal, almighty All Wheel Droive system, thinking it'll save their inept asses from their fuckups
>>15387560
>When not on the gas
The same could be said of any car
If you don't make use of separate wheels being used for braking/steering and accelerating in an FR it handles like an FF
The only case argument here is something like an MR or RR that naturally pivot the wheels but suffer instability as a result,
STI's weight distribution is more like 58/42 as well, and you can change that with moving shit around inside if you really want to.
Honestly people who whine about understeer or FF handling just don't know how to drive them at all, my experience has been neutral handling to mild oversteer on command in all except the middle ground medium speed corners were mild understeer rears its head.
>>15387560
What's a good front engined AWD system in your opinion? Genuinely curious.
>>15387966
inb4 haldex pleb
>>15387966
An awd setup with a transverse engine might place the engine a little further back, but there's an issue with connecting the transmission with the driveshaft to the rear wheels.
The transmission is not in the center off the car but next to the engine and at a 90 degree angle. ecause of that the transfer box that connects these two is considerably less efficient than in a car with a longitudonally mounted engine. (pic is a Mondeo 4x4 transfer box btw)
Which is why fulltime 4wd with a transverse engine is pretty rare.
Part time systems like haldex are much more efficent and capable enough for 99% of the customers
>>15388093
the engine gearbox and differential need not be far apart now that oil is a little more advanced
>>15387966
BMW maybe?
It's just your average Subaru shit Lord coming through https://youtu.be/LpGXggdi7bk
>muh classic Subaru understeer
https://youtu.be/hZAjS5o9X3A
>>15388266
>locked front wheels
>understeer
It's almost like youve never been near a car.
in my opinion the focus RS has the best awd system. at least it can transfer 70% to the rear. which is pretty damn good for a transverse setup
>>15388366
He locked the front wheels when he realized how badly it's understeering. Don't feel bad it's a classic Subaru philosophy of understeer is safer than oversteer!
>suburuuuuuuuuuu
>shit chassis
>shit engine
>shit gearbox
>shit everything
>2016
>still driving these turds
TOP FUCKING KEK
>2016
>being mad at superior technology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OzK-oRPCbs
Maybe try to conceal your bait a little better?
>>15388266
TADAIMA~
