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Sup /o/
I'm starting a new job soon and am moving to the city (Chicago), so I need to get a car
For maximum maneuverability, ease of parking, and good gas mileage, I've been looking at subcompacts. Specifically, the Fiat 500 vs the Chevy Sonic
What do you think about subcompacts?
Agreed
Do you really need that small car? YOu live in the US after all so it wouldn't be a problem to park a compact or a medium class sedan? I'm curious
>>15370431
They're shit. Just get a chevy volt.
>chicago
Buy the only one Twingo in the US from this guy
>>15370445
lots of times assholes dont leave enough room to properly parallel park a proper sedan.
>>15370431
>willingly going to shitcago
wtf
Why not a kei car? could get one of these for 6-8 grand from canada, or you could spend a bit more for a Cappuccino or an AZ-1 if you want an actual roof.
fiat 500 is retarded fun to drive. I am thinking about one at some point, they are just like driving around with a basket full of puppies.
>>15370557
Might be a bit iffy as a DD because hard to find parts.
>>15370431
Why not the Fiesta? Dat ecoboost...
>>15370557
>>15370583
Japanese classics in virginia has plenty of honda beats and city turbo 2's with less than 20k miles on them for around 6-10k depending on if its still stock or not. Not trying to shill but they are legit id look them up. They even have supra mk3s tt z32s skylines 180s, cosmos, cefiros and laurels. All showroom quality with lower miles and not some crazy i know what i got price on craigslist. Oh yea any car on their website can be test driven and bought at their office in richmond the same day, if you see it online, its ready to be driven to your home.
>>15370607
Here is a screeny of one they just got earlier this month 50kms on it
>>15370616
>50k kms
I doubt it. japs are notorious for rolling back odo's for exports.
>>15370557
>>15370607
anywhere in the midwest?
>>15370557
>a Cappuccino or an AZ-1
i dont think you could register either of these in the usa yet
>>15370653
http://www.jdmautoimports.com/
I see these shitters' posts on craigslist sometimes, they sold a beat recently for a little under 12k.
>>15370692
Cappuccinos just became legal this year (1991 models), it does seem that AZ-1s still have another year though
>>15370431
Get an Abarth so you can have mad hot hatch fun too
>>15370431
Hey bud, I just finished buying a subcompact after doing a few months of research. Here's what I got out of it:
>Fiat 500: Looks fun, my guilty pleasure, but FIAT ranks lowest in reliability.
>Mini Cooper: Fun, highest quality, but lacking in room. I also wasn't a fun of the layout of the interior. Most expensive as well.
>SmartCar: Incredibly overpriced, underpowered, and almost no room. This car is for people who drink Figi Water and are professionally offended by anything that damages their precious ego.
>Fiesta: Top contender. You will probably be able to get one OTD new for >$13,000. I didn't like the interior.
>Sonic: What I ended up going with. Got a new 2016 for $12,300 OTD. I love the interior, exterior, gas milage, roominess, instrument cluster, I could go on and on. It met all my needs.
Other options for that price include a used honda fit, maybe a used Mazda3.
Stay away from the Kia Rio and Yaris, they have tested to be underwhelming.
And if you do buy a Sonic, don't buy one from 2012, it was a bad year.
>>15371010
>pay $10000 more for decreased fuel economy
okay
>>15370431
500
Stylish, nice colors, decent pick up. Comes in a nice 5 speed on the base model.
>>15370431
Buy whichever one is the most chimp proof
>>15370557
>RHD for a DD
Yeah, why not...
what about the Mitsubishi Mirage G4?
>>15370431
smart is the only rwd
get the 2016 with a real manual
>>15372445
The Mirage is the Milhouse to the Versa. It's worse in every way.
>>15370431
Get a big scooter you faggot.
>>15370431
>Maximun manuverability
Smart Fortwo Turbo (Passion, don't know if Pure comes with a turbo too, but avoid the MHD like a plague)
>Ease Parking
Smart or IQ
>Good gas milage
IQ
500 is more practical than the IQ or the Smart, and the Sonic is even more than the 500
But the sonic is god awful with a CVT and no fun allowed all over it
500 lets you have some fun if you bought and Abbarth with the turbo
IQs don't know what fun is but are comfy
Smarts can be fun as fuck if you flash the Engine and the gearbox ECUs to get it to shift faster and put 92HP to the wheels, also its the only on the pic that its RWD
Avoid the Mini, Unreliable as fuck and only fun if you get the S or Works models, and by that point they aren't that good at saving gas, if you do get a mini NEVER FUCKING EVER get the auto tranny
>>15371035
>Confirmed to have never driven a smart or just anon turbo one
88 hp on a 700kg car is a pretty decent power to weight ration
With an ECU tune, or if you were lucky enough to get a 2011 car with the factory Bosh ECU, you get 91 HP at the wheels
If you are stupid enough to buy a brabus you get 102 to 112 HP depending of the year
Gearbox is shit, yes, but the newest smarts come with a manual so you can go dorifuto on a smart
>>15372477
The new smart looks hideous, fuck that pedestrian safety nose, its disgusting and makes the car look deformed
>>15370431
fiesta/focus ST or bust
youre not even fucking trying
>>15371770
>Don Dons, a friend of Don
fucking lost it
>>15370431
CRZ, it's the least gay
>>15373115
I like the CRZ. Have they made a sporty version yet?
>>15370463
lol how did that happen
>>15373958
no instead it's getting canceled.from next years lineup.
>>15370431
Swag
>>15374011
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>>15374038
>>15374039
Clear winner
>>15373115
does this even count as a subcompact?
i saw a CRZ parked in manhattan the other day and it looked huge.
>>15371035
wew lad, for half of that you could have gotten something twice as better.
guess that college degree aint learned ya how to buy cars, huh?
>>15372477
smarts are rwd?
>>15374147
they even have the engine at the back
they are RR
>>15370607
Friend of mine bought a Toyota Sera. They do good work. Good customer service.
>>15374145
I test drove a lot of used cars that were considered better. Mazda3s, Toyota's, Honda's, but it didn't fit my liking.
You know how your car feels right to you? How you can feel in your bones that it's 'your car'? That's what I got with a new Sonic.
I know the air intake hose is cheap and that it's an updated Aveo, but I love it. I love it like you love a first serious girlfriend. She's not the prettiest, or the most popular, but she supports you and makes you wake up smiling.
Other people might scoff, shake their heads, or wag a self-righteous finger. But this car is mine, I love het, and I'm gonna treat her like gold until the day she dies.
>>15374816
Cringe
>>15374011
>>15374022
>>15374038
>>15374039
>>15374052
dumb fag who likes an ugly ass car
>>15370445
It's harder to park in Chicago than it is in the rest of the US, other big cities excluded. Streets may be bigger than a Euro city, but the parking situation is similar.
>>15370431
I'll just talk about the ones I've driven.
If you get the 500, get the Abarth. Not just because it's /o/ and we're all about fun, but because the engine and trans are more reliable than the standard ones the 500 comes with. Abarth or bust on the Fiat, imo. Also, so so so much fun to toss the Abarth around.
The Cooper is neat, but I've heard bad things about the reliability post-warranty. That said, my dad has one that is well past warranty, and he has had no issues so far, he just maintains it and it keeps running. Great gas mileage, good on roadtrips and in town, the sport mode makes it even more go-kart-y.
Fortwo: It's RR, it weighs nothing, and should have enough power to move it. It should be good, right? But it isn't. It's awful to drive for some reason, it's overpriced, and the interior is the worst out of everything you have in that image.
