How bad of a car is the M4? It just looks like a family car. It seems like a cayman would be alot more fun.
how bad is a cayman? it seems like a practical car. a 4C would be more fun
why are you comparing a coupe to a sports car?
>>15354264
cayman is a 2 seater. M4 is a nice daily.
>>15354352
BMW doesnt have a legitimate sports car, their M series is the closest thing they have and the M4 is the closest thing to a Cayman.
>>15354392
the z4 isnt a sports car?
>>15354264
dumbass
>>15354398
>z4
Pretty sure it just went out of production.
>>15354423
lol no
>>15354264
Numb pile of shit, if you want a BMW coupe go with an E92 (M3 or otherwise). The Cayman is personally one of my favorite cars of all time but more or a sports car and less of a DD (not that it can't be a DD).
>>15354264
That's what the M2 is for.
(Pic not an M2)
>>15354599
Why cat I find any of these for sale?
>>15354264
I really hope you mean the Cayman S or GTS. The base model is shit.
>>15354264
Reminder that BMW cucked themselves by making the M2 faster.
>>15354858
>both faster than the Camaro
the only cucked one here is GM
>>15354867
Im a diehard BMW fan but
The M4 and M2 cost tens of thousands more than a Camaro.
>>15355193
>2SS 46k
>M2 50k
>>15355217
Cherrypicking
>>15355249
whatever lets you deal with the butthurt
>>15354264
>It just looks like a family car.
gimme that crack nigga
>>15355249
>cherrypicking
>literally the two cars in the picture
>>15355217
2ss starts at 42k
According to the mags the c63 and the ats v are better than the new m4, but the new m2 is da shit yo. Cayman is a second car
>>15354334
But... you have a point though.
fake steering, sounds horrible, exhaust note so shit that it had fake noise pumped via speakers, standard cloth seats on a $80k BMW........ANNNNND literally the same performance around the track as a $40k pig fat camaro w/ push rod V8
>>15355217
If you actually looked at their prices and didn't cherry pick a trim that just adds cost while coming with no extra performance equipment, 1SS starts at $42k and while M2 starts at $52,695. Getting anything other than white on the M2 will cost you another $500.
Camaro also smokes the M2 from in 1/4 and 0-60 which is realistically 95% of what you will be experiencing driving-wise.
Camaro doesn't need engine noise piped through the speakers since V8s don't have that problem
BTFO'd
BTFO'd
>>15354867
>not noticing the 35k price gap between the Camaro and M4
>>15355990
Yeah but the trade off is you'd have to drive a fucking camaro.
>>15355193
>>15355990
>BMW is expensive
Unsurprising tbqh. Made for rich Chinese students to put into walls, but a comfy car that makes lots of noise up until that point.
Also it'd be cheaper to get something like a Pontiac GTO for a fraction of the price of a new Camaro and dump $10 grand into making it faster. Put on a HSV front end and it looks cooler too.
>>15355990
>>15356131
>murribubblers still assmad the camaro is slower
top fucking kek
of course you can get a 1SS with a cuck-tier interior with no options, but that one doesn't compare to the M2 in the slightest bit
moreover, the camaro makes almost 100hp more yet its still slower, plus that M2 didn't have the performance package
the camaro is the inferior car and its also slower
deal with it, cucks
>>15356189
Pretty sure each markets to a different mob.
Your average Camaro owner just wants to do straight lines fast. Who gives a shit about lap times?
The M4 sells off prestige more than its performance and lap times mean nothing to the prospective buyer. Even if it were a bit slower than the M2 (or Camaro, if this was the case) around some circuit it wouldn't make a difference.
The M2 is a poor man's M4? Fuck if I know, it's cheaper than the M4 and looks great in Long Beach Blue. Someone buying a M2 won't look at lap times to judge, and someone looking at lap times to judge rides the bus.
the m2 is sex on wheels.
>>15354264
I've actually driven every single M3 aside from the E30 and the M4, and the M4 is hands down the absolute worst of the bunch. Yes, you can bench race all you want, but at the end of the day it's less fun. The steering is comparatively light, and very unresponsive. The engine lacks character and sounds like shit at idle and low revs. The interior feels cheap for a $60k+ car. Plus, you are very aware of how large it is. Not necessarily the weight, but the fact that you're driving a car that has the same wheelbase as an E39 M5, without the something that made the M5 great.
E92 M3 was the last great M 3-series. Yes, it was heavier, yes it numbers weren't as good, ut it just had the feeling. The high revving V8 had character, the steering was responsive, the interior felt appropriately nice.
>>15356525
So basically,
>muh feels
Which should be the deciding factor on what car you want. Why drive something you hate for the sake of numbers or to impress girls, a la Rodge?
>>15354264
Forget the M4 and buy an M2 instead. It's not only cheaper but its GAWDMASHEEN status is practically in the bag.
M2>M4
>>15354264
Cayman GT 4 is probably the best sportscar you can buy today.
>>15355805
According to the mags the M3/M4 is still da shit yo.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2015-bmw-m3-vs-2015-mercedes-amg-c63-s-2016-cadillac-ats-v-comparison-test
