red light camera ticket
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just got my first red light ticket in the mail from a camera
it actually wasn't me driving, but i own the car, obviously
plan on fighting it
any stories, tips, advice etc.
"I wasn't driving"
>>15354083
it wasn't, it was my winter car, i USED to let a lot of people drive it because i don't care about it
but this is bullshit so no one is driving it anymore
>>15354070
stop running red lights faggot
>fighting a red light ticket
lmao just pay it, theres cameras with proof the car ran the light
doesnt matter if you were driving
doesnt matter if you think the red light cams are a scam
>>15354090
i'm fighting it anyway, it's almost $400
for a first offense, that's insane
>>15354070
I advise following this example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okr9NK5rv_o
>>15354070
have fun being schedulued on the same day as the other 95 people who are fighting their mailed in ticket
and once you waste the entire day sitting in court just to hear some fuckface say he analized each and every photo and definitly verified that it was you driving you will realize it was never worth it to lose that day of work
>>15354094
ahaha, i'm not from the usa so hopefully i'll just go have a civil conversation and pay a $65 admin fee
>>15354100
you can't mail it in, you have to go to the courthouse
last time i fought a mail in ticket i spoke to the cop who issued it before the trial and settled it in a way that it didn't effect my insurance
it took about 25 minutes and it was totally worth it
>>15354093
maybe you didnt get it the first time
dont
run
red
lights
faggot
>>15354113
it
wasn't
me
fuck
off
>>15354093
If its $400 you may be better off hiring a lawyer to fight it for you.
>>15354124
don't lawyers cost a lot more than that?
i'm hoping to settle for a reduced fine
>>15354124
This
>>15354123
you
are
responsible
for
your
own
shit
faggot
>>15354145
why am i responsible for some else's actions?
what kind of orwellian dystopia do you live in that this makes sense?
>>15354159
You're responsible for you're action of loaning someone your car faggot, get a brain
>>15354159
>>15354159
>orwellian dystopia
>>15354135
Traffic court lawyers make money in 2 ways: they save your time and they are cheaper than the ticket. If they weren't then they wouldn't get 99% of the cases they do from poor folks.
>>15354166
Your* action
Kill me
>>15354166
that's actually not how things work
>>15354111
what are you going to do? talk to the camera and beg it to not let the judge fuck you in the ass with 2 points on your license and a nice fat fine for the pigs at your local PD
>>15354166
you get a brain
if i loan someone my car and they run over their ex with it on purpose i'm not going to be charged with first degree homicide
this is why police and laws and insurance exist
>>15354135
a good laywer is gonna start at 1k
and like $500 to keep them on retainer
>>15354166
> Give car to someone you trust
> They ram raid a shop
> Better charge the owner of the car for theft and willful destruction of property
>>15354170
i'm not poor, i'm just upset on principal
>>15354135
for minor traffic infractions, no.
>>15354185
Why the fuck would you hire a good lawyer to fight a traffic ticket? Literally just call one of those cheap faggots you see on the TV and billboards who fight dumb tickets for a living.
>>15354190
I'm not saying you're poor anon, I'm saying that the majority of people who get traffic tickets (and therefore hire cheap traffic court lawyers) are poor, so they generate the majority of the law office's revenue.
>>15354175
no i'm going to go to the courthouse and hopefully have a reasonable discussion with a mediator about why i shouldn't have to pay them $400 and hopefully settle it under $100 and without points
>>15354070
make the person who drove your car pay for it
>>15354205
it seems weird to trust someone who makes money off the desperate with something that i feel like i could adequately deal with on my own
>>15354256
they've already given me the money but i don't want any convictions on my license
>>15354211
I hate to burst your bubble but your gonna get points and the fine will def be more than $100 this wasnt a stop sign it was a red light
ive been in this sorta situation before just be ready for when shit doesnt go the way you want it to
>>15354267
if you go to court and say you werent driving theyre gonna want the name of the person who was, cause either way, the car ran a light and the govt wants its money
>>15354267
>convictions
jesus fuck OP
its a traffic citation
>already was paid by "friend" for the ticket
>still posts obvious b8 thread
you have successfully baited 30 anons into posting in this thread, can you just delete it
>>15354286
>traffic citations don't show up on insurance
learn the law bus rider
>>15354290
progressive agent told me that most tickets dont unless they are 15+ over speed limit or reckless driving etc
a red light cam is the same tier as a non moving violation ie seat belt ticket
love this bus rider meme though
>>15354281
i'm ok with that
>>15354301
>someone trying to sell me something told me something that isn't true
wow.
>>15354279
this
also know when to shut the fuck up and eat crow, otherwise you'll just make it worse for yourself
>>15354309
>>15354301
pls tell me more about what your progressive agent told you?
>>15354338
she also told me that if im a real good boy that my rates will go down
>>15354342
mine told me that 5 cars and up gives me the best rate
>>15354135
>don't lawyers cost a lot more than that?
Traffic lawyers are different. And they make their money on handling a lot of repetitive easy cases for them. It is not grueling like a true trial where their other opponent are more lawyers.
Your traffic lawyer knows a lot of technicalities that you do not and should try to apply as much as possible given that you tell him all the circumstances.
Importantly, clearing a red light traffic ticket is good for your INSURANCE RATES.
>>15354301
>progressive agent told me that most tickets dont unless they are 15+ over speed limit or reckless driving etc
That's false. Progressive even has a monitoring program that you can sign up for to reduce your rates. But many people actually increase their rates instead!!! Progressive counts the number of times you do panic stops since they also get your OBD2 codes from your driving. If you have Onstar, you know that can monitor and phone home your panic stop info too.
>>15354070
>it actually wasn't me driving, but i own the car
The ticket is issued to the owner of the car who is responsible for tickets UNLESS the car was reported stolen. Even if your child or wife borrowed the car without your knowledge, you are responsible even though you claim you didn't give permission.
However, if you give permission to a friend who is not part of your household, then you are responsible for the tickets. You can of course have your friend show up at the court session to take responsibility and the judge will move the responsibility over. Thus your personal driving record will be clear. However, the insurance company will still see that the car has a Running The Red Light citation.
>>15354070
OP what fucking country do you live in
this will shut up all the armchair lawyers
>>15354094
man what a weirdo, I feel so bad for members of the justice system that have to deal with nutters like this.
>>15354094
That was pretty entertaining. Better than cops.
>>15354070
Give them the information of who was driving at the time. Problem solved.
>>15355251
What a fucking stupid system that is. In any sensible country the responsibility lies with the driver not the owner.
>>15354088
Also, if they ask who was, you can invoke the fifth.
>>15354093
>doing something completely preventable that has the very real possibility of literally killing someone should be treated lightly because it was the first time I did it even though I know the dangers involved and that it's illegal
XD
>>15354070
I'd find out who drove it and make them pay it.
If it takes points off your license or something there should be a way to let your 'friend' take the hit.
If nobody owns up to it you have some pretty shitty friends.
There's not much to be done about it though, I mean there is solid evidence YOUR CAR was going through a red light.
