>looking for first car
>live in the Mississauga/Toronto
>want to spend about 4k CAD that includes tax and safety/e-test
>have been scowering Kijiji/Autotrader for cars in this range
>have seen some mint 2003-2007~ Mazda 3s and Honda civics that are manual
>want a car that is simple to start out fixing/learning how to wrench
>would obviously want RWD sick skids car but can't really find any RWD at this price range besides old as fuck E36s that will probably grenade themselves
>don't know how to drive manual, know the mechanics of it(other then hundreds of hours of playing racing sims with a wheel setup and h-shifter plus clutch settings)
What do you guys think? Should i hit up a stealership because most of them will come with the safety certification but i am afraid of getting blown out. Most of the private sale adds are not certified and the ones that are charge quite a bit more for them. The biggest killer is going to be insurance, which will be 300+ dollars a month.
>>15327636
>1990s is old as fuck
>RWD IS BETTER GUYS
Wow kill yourself any time
>>15327645
Okay i might have fell for the RWD meme a bit hard but from what i have heard and read e36's and BMWs in general are expensive as fuck to maintain and simple parts are expensive.
>>15327636
I was paying 390/month for a 95 GSR back when I was probably 21 Yeah <25 insurance is fucking rape in Ontario. My rates now aren't even that good, I'm >25 and I'm paying like 218/month for a G35.
Buy an average dildo car, civic/protégé/jetta/corolla/lancer/sentra etc etc.
Find someone that has a manual car, offer to buy gas/lunch/hookers and drive their shitbox in a parking lot and get familiar.
>>15327675
Yeah not looking forward to the insurance, at least i did the driving school two years ago. Currently 21 atm and just need a car seeing as you can't really do shit without one. Yeah i was looking at TDI Manual Jettas for that dank fuel economy but they are kind of rare from what i have seen and go quick.
Honestly digging some of these early/mid 2000s Mazda 3s. Their were some pretty mint civics though.
>>15327697
buy an old Honda
civic/accord/prelude/integra for <1500, something in that area.
I spent many years working beside a mazda dealer, I keep seeing rusty as fuck gen 1 mazda 3/6's. pic fucking retarded.
>>15327720
They rust that bad?
>>15327798
Not him but yeah they do. It's a shame because they're literally perfect cars apart from the rust issues. I'm guessing it snows a lot in Toronto?
>>15327825
Yeah, they salt the shit out of the roads to so it tends to BTFO any cars.
>>15327825
pic is a quebec car, but it snows a fair amount in Toronto and they salt. lately they've been spraying some weird ass brine solution on the roads. Great for melting snow and preventing icing up. Apparentally its quadruple bad for cars.
I've personally seen some mazda 3's with some seriously bad corrosion, never that bad though.
>>15327636
if you live in sauga I'll teach you manual on my shitbox for like 20$
>>15327840
I live in the Port Credit area but meeting some guy on the internet to learn manual sounds fucked. But i do want to learn how to do it. Where you at m8.
>>15327852
clarkson village m8
>>15327852
not just any internet, its 4chan.
some people don't like him for whatever reason. I still haven't spotted his S2K in the wild, was at a track event with him last year at Cayuga in late September. RWDCIVIC. Neat.
I paid for gas and lunch and learned how to drive manual in a 1.6L MX3 with no cat and no muffler in a full parking lot at lunch. Just because I went to school with the guy dosent mean it wasent shady.
>>15327861
Fuggin hell that is pretty close to where i live all things considered.
>>15327840
theres a guy that does it for like 60 for one hour, 85 for 1.5 hours in a velosters if you google for stick gta
>>15327888
ya but ill do this as a favor to get more people coming out to Ontario Wat meets and to save the manual
>>15327876
email the wat Ontario group so we can add you to the whatsapp group if that hasn't been done already
>>15327911
>>15327840
I would probably only want to do it in a really public parking lot to avoid getting killed/robbed raped or all three. You know where Dixie outlet mall is m8.
>>15327921
But i don't even have a car. I guess i will give an email. Where do i find this email. Do i just email saying i want to get added.
>>15327720
hondas and toyotas are more expensive to insure then a mazda, coupes even more so.
Got to pay to play, I wouldn't go for the 09' and older mazda3s though.
>>15327911
>save the manual
more like kill it kek
I'd be down to join you guys, learned to drive motos so I understand how to shift just never did it in a car.
>>15327645
Fwd delusional cuck first post
Keep telling yourself that and misleading new guy
>>15327839
Here in quebec, Most >2006 Mazda looks worst then rusted to shit hick pickups from the 90s. Get yourself an early 2000s civic for 2000-2500. Theyre cheap and easy to fix.
>>15327930
ya that's understandable for the public place thing. I haven't met any shitters from /o/ yet surprisingly everyone's been super chill
>>15328023
Just ask to get added to the group and my username or something? Never used whatsapp before, installing it right now.
>>15327636
manual honda, swapped would be better and get the most bang for your buck, dont worry about learning stick the car would probably need a new clutch anyway.
>>15327935
>>15327971
>I'd be down to join you guys, learned to drive motos so I understand how to shift just never did it in a car.
>ignored
oh ok
>>15328073
>showing your autism level
>>15328075
no u
>>15328043
>>15328023
Okay i emailed them my number.
>>15328060
Yeah i am definitely considering a simple civic but the insurance will probably be higher with one.
>>15328073
you should come to one of the meets, we have a small one tomorrow night, but do the thing with whatsapp we have a ton of people from Toronto in that group atm
what the fuck op i'm in the same situation and same area kek
i rly wanted to buy a 240sx but by the time I have the money all the good ones will be gone I think also they seem to have a lot of tax on them so there's that. Don't really know what to get for when I go back to school
>>15328023
Am I allowed to join even if I don't have a car? I'm in Oshawa
>>15328127
>not buying of classifieds
are you blem?
EP3
P
3
Unless if you're not a bad enough dude to hot hatch it up.
Also literally nothing wrong with FWD, and you'll be comfortably driving stick in traffic within a week or so.
>>15327720
What in the actual fuck
>>15328130
this
>>15328133
teach me my yute
