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As a modernising society we sought safe and reliable transport, the right assured us that the invisible hand of the free market would deliver it, this is what we got. Behold a man's pride and joy. Behold speed and comfort. Behold the Gran Turismo.

In this image we see Asia's rapidly expanding population as a precursor to the west.
Here we see the car as the perfect embodiment of capitalism and a civilization that depends on continuous growth in the inevitable overcrowding and suffocation.

How long until we outgrow the individualist trash that is the car?
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>>15298581
move forward 15 years, replace all those cars with busses also stuck in traffic. it just delays the problem.
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>>15298601
Just two things that will solve the problem for good

1) Rail

2) Expelling the right wing government that continues to be cucked by GM and it's shareholders.
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>>15298657
>the right wing did this
>implying there's even a right wing or left wing government
>implying that the reason anyone is in Washington isn't some version of "make a fuck ton of money by selling the American people to corporations like livestock"
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>>15298657
they're isn't a high speed rail system in the world that isn't hemorrhaging money. even Amtrak can't make it without tax payers footing the bill.
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>>15298657
Rail can't go to every town or village in every country.
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>>15298581
probably around the same time you get a life and stop being a pussy (never)
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>>15299517
>"make a fuck ton of money by selling the American people to corporations like livestock"

So the right wing.
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Isn't the simplest solution just to keep population low?
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>>15299766
So re-introduce smallpox into the ever increasing population?
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>>15299782
no, control immigration and birth rates.
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>>15299830
How about controlling immigration and birth rates by using small pox?
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>>15299830
no, improve standard of living.
http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_on_global_population_growth?language=en
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>>15299868
>control population by improving standard of living
that doesn't make sense friendo
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>>15299581
>even Amtrak can't make it without tax payers footing the bill.
And so they should foot the bill, comrade. It's called passing the hat around.
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>>15299875
>Link
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>>15299882
I don't need to watch the link to know that it has nothing to do with population control.
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>>15299882
finding a correlation between 1st world nations not shitting out kids is a false premise.
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kill yourself, OP
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>>15299718
You need to study past middle school social studies if you think democrats aren't in the same boat
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>>15298657
>>15299718
>>15299913

>Gallipoli Campaign + 100
>believing any of the government actually cares about you
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>>15299904
he also does not address the tide of robots that is making human capital even more worthless
>inb4 robots selling robot parts to other robots
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>>15299913
Of course by left wing I mean democrats because there are only two political parties.
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>>15299876
Passing the hat implies voluntary contribution, not compulsory.
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>>15299962
I actually watched the video just now.
It's a chicken and egg problem. Poor people are dumb, and have more kids. That's literally it.
It has nothing to do with anything other than that.

I don't know why he's even talking about birth mortality it's just an unrelated correlation between education and poor healthcare and unicef has literally zero effect on either.
>Please keep paying for unicef friends :^)

All we have to do is grow their economy!
Okay then stop letting all the smart ones into the first world.
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>>15299994
But towards the end his data shows that they are in fact catching up.
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>>15299998
good then they can stop coming here

ending colonialism was the worst possible thing for all of these countries.
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As an anon who is stuck in traffic for hours everyday.
Personally id rather be stuck in my own personal hell on my terms than be stuck in a community hell with other people.
Fuck the crowded public transportation, fuck having to be near other people.
Atleast in my car i get to listen to my music, have the A/C cranked, and fart to my hearts content.
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>>15300179
Maybe they should have vented bus seats that suck farts out and away from the cabin and onto the street as well as cool your ass
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>>15300179
But if everyone who was able used public transport, you would not be stuck in the first place.
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>>15300017
Duuuude...
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>>15298581

>Any continent but Africa
>Expanding population

Your premise is flawed to begin with
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>>15298581
>individualism
>trash ideal
Come on anon, individualism isn't a trash ideal. It's part of the reason the west succeeded over Russia. Collectivism isn't a natural state of being for people. We all look out for ourselves and those close to us, not the whole group.

Collectivism was a good idea in the Slav lands to elevate their whole nations from agrarian, sparsely populated feudal nations, to the industrial modern states they became. Communism did a lot of good in it's time.

But now, a socialist capitalist society will be the best society. Lots of good social support networks, highly regulated trade, and individualist societies that encourage the success of the self will be the best.

Scandinavian nations are just as capitalist as America, and they have such social support systems. Canada is demoing the idea of increasing it's social support with basic income trials.

And for that matter, most of the world won't need very many cars. But America, Canada, Australia, China, and Russia, will. Our nations are fucking massive, and building a reliable rail network and bus system to go to every single village, town, city, urban dwelling, would be far too expensive. They would never work, never get to places on time, and they would delay the citizenry far too much.

Plus, people who live in the country literally need to do one to two weeks of groceries at a time, often for their whole family. You can't carry that in your hands, with a backpack. You actually need a car, it's a necessity.

Don't even try to recommend forcing everyone to move to the city. Cities are fucking rotting trash heaps prone to disease outbreak. Check your history book. The populations of cities in the black plague were annihilated. Country dwelling residents were less effected. Poland, right in the center of the disease vector and rat migration routes due to the Mongols, was barely effected. Because it was a sparsely populated, poor shithole.
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Neutron bombs, Anon.

Neutron bombs.
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>>15298581
Bet you still drive to work though. You just wish all those other people weren't in the way.
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They had the answer and threw it away
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>>15298581
Good chunk of jobs, could be done over the internet these days. What hasn't kept up are the social systems in place. And the current crop of people in charge don't really want to change things too much, they like things just the way they are. If anything they want to roll the clock back to 1985.

And then there's all the talk of robotic automation, where most of the jobs just go *poof*.

So there you go, I guess we endure the morning stampede into Jobland and then the evening stampeded back out into Housingland until the system collapses of its own entropy or changes and automates itself into irrelevance.

And then there won't be any need for a car because nobody will have a job.
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The vast majority of the problems we have right now is the fact that there are too many people in the the world.
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>Be on bus
>homeless people fight over seating space to your right
>obese man's fat rolls squeeze you on your left
>nigger "discreetly" rolling blunt in front of you
>pregnant spic coddling screaming baby while her children throw shit at you from behind

Literally why the fuck would anyone ever prefer the bus? The "city planner" answer is for everyone else to be impoverished to the point where they're forced to use inferior transportation while they themselves enjoy the now-empty roads.

People who wish for everyone else to use public transportation do so either through spite (because why should anyone else not have to suffer?) or through self-interest (because only elites are good enough to drive cars). The fact is, as countries get richer, more and more people choose to drive. That should tell you that people have their preference. There's a difference between giving travelers an alternative, and forcing mass transit down their throats by actively making driving expensive, congested, or difficult.
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