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Convince me out of buying a brand fucking new 30k 2016 tacoma
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>>15278643
The Colorado exists.
>>15278643
they are good like machines.
Comes in manual too
You can't afford it.
>>15278643
spending $30k on a midsize pickup is pretty retarded
>>15278643
My cousin had a 2007 or 08 TRD and a mexican hit him totalling it out just a couple of years ago.
His insurance gave him $25k for it which is no where close to what it was worth.
>>15278670
But I can... although it's a large chunk of my savings.
I have a 2005 Camry with 220000 miles on it check engine light and driverside headlight is malfunctioning. Bad wiring, bulbs good.
I don't want to fuck with old cars and I love reliability.
Someone talk some sense into me
>>15278682
That is what its worth for its age and mileage
>>15278682
>25k
>no where close to what it was worth
>brand new is 30
I KNOW WHAT I GOT NO LOWBALLERS
Save some cash and buy a used one.
>>15278694
>large chunk of my savings
You can't afford it.
>>15278643
I was looking at Tacomas and Colorados but they really don't make sense when you can get a Silverayyydo for a couple grand more. Your getting a bigger truck with more features for the same price. I think the fuel savings would be negligible.
You could sell the taco after 4 years for a ridiculous amount if you keep it in shape tho, can't really do that with the Chevy, it's going to be worth dick all after 4 years. I guess the Chevy would be a better lease truck.
>>15278761
taco tax is ridiculous. taco is probably one of the only vehicles I'd advocate buying new.
Or get a tundra
>>15278643
The Ford Ranger might be coming back to the USA next year.
>>15278643
Why? It's an awesome fucking vehicle that will do just about anything you ask of it. I say fucking do it. Do yourself a huge fucking favor though and don't pie out and get the sport. Off road all the way.
>>15278658
>the diesel is $49k
Tacoma is uncomfortable. Seats only go forward and back. Expensive. Colorado/canyon has a super low air dam on the front and looks gay. Interior is waaaayyyy better on those though.
>>15278643
Just get the ranger senpai
Buy a lightly used Tacoma or similar truck and use the thousands you save on upgrades.
>>15278643
It's not American.
>>15278658
>General Motors
>>15278788
Yeah the one they are trying to get me into is a sport 2 wheel 2 door I think I'm going to make sure I get a 4 door off road
>>15278643
>>15278787
Remember when Rangers and Tacomas were cool little minitrucks that had personality, and not some jacked-up aggressive-looking mid-size newshitboxes?
>>15278694
>But I can... although it's a large chunk of my savings.
That means you can't afford it breh
It's called SAVINGS for a reason
>>15279044
I highly doubt you or anyone else saying the dude can't afford it has 30k+ just sitting in savings.
>>15279050
I have 41k actually, but I don't spend a dime that I don't need too.
>>15279060
>sitting in savings
Then you're just as retarded as someone wanting to pay all cash for a new car.
>inb4 it's a 401k
>>15279065
not the 401k, but I do have it invested
>>15278809
its 40k around here lol
>>15279080
>$49k canadabux*
>mfw
>>15278643
>>15278658
Blowing that much on a mid size while not even considering a superior 2015+ f150.
>>15278658
those went from a mini truck to as big as the fucking older Silverado
>>15278643
ive been looking at the 4cyl 4x4, but over $30k CAD for something im gonna bag in the bush is too much
>>15278694
Toyota is doing pretty good financing right now. Long as your credit isn't shit, take advantage. Hopefully you don't have 30k sitting in savings "earning" you a whole 0.3%. If you do, start learning about investments and make that chunk of cash work for you.
>>15279216
>Ford
>Superior ever
>>15278643
Because mid sized trucks shouldn't cost the same as a full size truck.
Greedy automotive companies. (Im all for a company making money but cmon)
>>15278776
>You could sell the taco after 4 years for a ridiculous amount if you keep it in shape tho, can't really do that with the Chevy,
That can be said for any vehicle you pleb. As long as you take care of it, itll hold its value.
>>15279265
when the full size fully loaded are like $70k now the small ones dont seem so bad at $35k lol
>>15279278
But your talking fully loaded. All that coasts extra, im talking about right off the lot base truck.
>>15279276
>Doesn't understand taco tax
I don't understand it either, but it exists... Well I guess it exists because it's a desireable vehicle with a history of desireability. Who the fuck is going out and buying used s-10's or canyons these days? nobody remembers those shitboxes. but a t-100 holds a legacy that has kept it in the offroading enthusiasts eye for a long time, and now that the 4runner is soccer mobile and fj cruiser has a wacky door design the tacoma is one of the best offroading/daily drivers money can buy when it comes to toyota and the entire truck/suv market entirely. Damnit, I want one now ;_;
>>15279307
>suicide doors are wacky
You shut your whore mouth i love my doors. When I want more room for passengers I just take my Tundra.
>>15279307
>fj cruiser has a wacky door design
It does? i always liked the design of the FJ cruiser but there was always something about it that made it seem too big to be a proper off-roader.
>>15279329
Its basically a SUV.
>>15278643
The only reason to buy one is the base 4x4 with the 5 speed stick.
Honestly, I'd rather buy a '13 or '14 regular cab 4x4 Tacoma with the 5 speed.
>>15279329
1.5" wider than a wrangler but the body is more bulky. Still pretty good offroad.
>>15279331
Wat? It is an SUV.
>>15279339
>and pass up the facelifted 6 speed manual TRD version for nearly the same price
No
>>15279276
>As long as you take care of it, itll hold its value
Bull fucking shit, it totally depends on the model and trim.
>>15279339
>>15279354
Why the fuck would you want a manual Tacoma? You really want the feeling of driving a budget fleet vehicle?
>bought an older Tacoma a few years ago
>fucking love it
>joined a forum and everything
>started going off-road
That's kind of how I got into trucks and off-roading. The community is great and there's plenty of aftermarket equipment. I'd recommend it if you plan on doing work to it
>>15279376
Guy who wants the regular cab here.
Yes, actually. I want something that has manual windows and a manual transmission because I like simplicity.
>>15278643
Wait for a year with your camry.
Ford has the fucking 10speed auto tranny out for their 2016 raptors. the Tacoma just got the 6 speed...
Wait for a year for Toyota to scramble and panic and stick a better tranny into the Tacoma, then get it.
Also, it's the 2016, they just changed it, don't buy a 2016.
ALTERNATIVELY. U lease. 0 fks given as ull give it bk.
Also. Price of gas. Tacoma will eat a lot more gas.
Also. Parking. If u live in a big city.
>>15279376
Have you even driven the new 6 speed or are you just talking out of your fat ass as usual?
>>15279431
Not the poster, but fuck manuals. It's cool till u switch to a good auto. Then u realize u were going full pleb.
All my friends went to autos. They still have the "racing car" for manual, but all the DDs r auto.
>>15279427
Made a mistake. Apparently 2017s will have the new tranny.
So maybe Toyota will match them with their own 10speed.
>>15279441
>someone else claiming manual is a hassle
If you're driving an 18 speed in stop and go traffic sure, but a manual isn't difficult at all, especially in a pickup truck. Heartbreaker always has to poke his fat ass around like a know-it-all when half the shit he posts is madeup bullshit. I guess senile old people need to feel at home too.
>>15279441
>It's cool till u switch to a good auto
Whats considered a good auto, I thought this board was all about BURR HURR ONLY MANUALS OR YOUR A PLEB.
>>15278643
do it faggot.
>>15278643
It doesn't have a fully boxed frame mate. Just go mine and was quite disappointed when I found out.
>>15279441
>It's cool till u switch to a good auto.
There is no such thing as a "good auto" in hill country. All of them suck going over mountains.
>>15279453
>manual is a hassle
It is if you're driving an underpowered car with a shit gearbox. Everything else, not so much.
>>15279468
>Whats considered a good auto
TH400 or 4L80e. Everything else is garbage.
>>15278643
Whoa I really dig the Custom Arab Terrorist Sand color on the new Ackbar by Toyota. They really care about their biggest customers the moslim terrorist with this beautiful desert camo paint color
>>15279591
How wide is the bed on them? I'm shopping them too and my only hesitation is being able to fit my YFZ450R in the bed. It's 49 inches wide.
>>15278643
Buy a trailer instead.
>>15278983
It's exception is when it originated as an Isuzu.
>>15279216
>Blowing that much on a mid size while not even considering a 1/2 ton
Not sure who's retarded enough to cross shop when the half ton is in a completely different price bracket.
http://www.chevrolet.com/colorado-small-truck/build-your-own.html
http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-1500-pickup-truck/build-your-own.html
>but just get an older one!
gud logic
>>15279723
Truth on the auto in hill country thing. Autos don't have eyes and can't tell when there's a big incline.
>Be me, driving grandpa's Corolla with a 5 speed auto
>Getting on interstate right before a big incline
>Auto trans gets its smukfrog.jpg face on
>"That's a nice hill you got there, Anon. I better hold onto 4th like a bitch and drop into OD right at the base of the hill"
>short bed
Anything is good enough for a mall crawler.
>>15279236
>those went from a mini truck to as big as the fucking older Silverado
>itt we learn every segment of consumer vehicle has grown to be larger
Did you just wake from a 20 year cryogenic hibernation today?
>>15278780
Old Tundras are the same size of the new Tacoma's.
>>15279723
>What is auto stick?
>What is gear selection lockout?
>>15278967
So... it's actually good?
>>15278643
>Convince me
I mean hey if you want to pay the price of a full size for a mini gutless truck go for it.
>>15280821
>I mean hey if you want to pay the price of a full size for a mini gutless truck go for it.
The only fullsize you're getting for that money is a 2WD 1500 contractor special.
>>15279828
53.4 inches wide at the top. 41.5 between the wheel wells.
OP i was in the dealer about to buy an optioned out 2016 taco. It was just too fucking expensive.
Then I started to look at mid 2000s v8 tundras, really liked those but they're still going for over 10000 for ones with 120k miles.
Now I'm looking at mid 1990s F 150s, I've been finding v8s with 70k miles for like 4-5 grand, and I'm thinking about getting one of those. Yeah not as reliable for longer trips (I have a mid 2000s toyota for a DD) but w/e repairs are cheap.
tl:dr do you want to do truck stuff or do you want something to put your Yeti and Costa stickers on?
>>15278643
Make sure take an extended test drive. I found the seating position to be atrocious and it got really uncomfortable after 45 mins or so.
It just looks like plastic bloated shit. Like a loose shopping cart in any given parking lot would just totally wreck its delicate shit up.
I say this as a life-long taco fan.
>>15280927
Thats the biggest complaint with both this gen and the previous gen. The seats either work for you or they dont. Toyota doesnt seem to give a fuck.
I appear to be one of the lucky ones, i actually find it fairly comfortable.
>>15278643
yeah im just gonna go ahead and equip a little
FOUR WHEELS OF FURY
>>15280770
nah, especially not a double cab.
plus tacos don't have a v8 so in the the trash they automatically goeth.
>>15282379
The taco isnt meant to be a workhorse hauler. If you need a V8, go fullsize.
But honestly, ford's new kraut space magic ecoboost engines are beating out the competition. Hell, you wont even be able to get a raptor with a V8
>>15279444
why would you compare the 2017 raptor 10 speed auto to a regular non TRD tacoma? an equivalent comparison would be 2017 TRD tundra vs 2017 raptor.
>>15282379
what is so important about a v8 in a truck? it's not a fucking racecar, and it will never match up to one. so as long as fucking ecoboost can haul the same, i would love to save some fucking gas here.
Tacoma a shit. They have c rails instead of fully boxed rails like the Hilux.
>>15278643
They look nice but if they're anything like the last gen they're shit. I have a 2014 for a work truck and I hate it. Granted mine is a 2.7 i4, but it's slow as shit, and Toyota has the gall to still use archaic 4 speed autos which doesn't help.
>>15283077
Like it needs to be any heavier
>>15279216
>Superior 2015+ f150
>Superior
Lol. Buy a ram, asshole.
>>15278658
> General Malfunctions
>>15283616
>buying anything made by Fiat Chrysler
>>15278658
>the same size as my Extd Cab Silverado
Fucking why so big??
>>15278643
Save 10k and buy a 3 or 4 year old full size merican v8 and ride eternal
>>15283616
>disregarding a Ford and Toyota
>suggests an FCA product from 2004 with a confused transmission and an anemic iron motor that gulps fuel
>>15282480
1st gen a perfect size
>>15282968
don't choke on that marketing kool-aid son
In the real world of modern and efficient engines turbos don't do a god damn thang to aid fuel consumption on a gas engine, its nothing more than phantom mathematical formula that works on paper but not in the real world. diesel, v8 or nothing.
>>15279060
>but I don't spend a dime that I don't need too
then you should realize you don't need a brand new truck that instantly loses value as soon as you buy it
>>15283388
I want my truck to survive actual work. Not get good MPG on the way to starbucks.
>>15284856
>I want my truck to survive actual work
Like what, exactly? What do you classify as 'actual work' for a fucking 1/4 ton truck?
>>15284905
Hauling heavy loads across farm fields and forest paths. Towing farm equipment, and trailers full of sheep.
Full size trucks are too big unless I clear hundreds of trees. Compact trucks are no longer compact.
>>15279050
I have nearly $200k between various accounts, savings, and on-hand. But since I'm expecting to buy land and build on said land I wouldn't even be able to afford a Tacoma.
The other Anon was right. It's called savings for a reason. That said, OP can do whatever the fuck he wants with his money. Not like he's going to listen to some trust fund babby NEET on how to manage money anyways.
>>15278658
>Colorado
>Not getting a Canyon
I drive both for work. even though they are the same vehicle, the differences in the Canyon compared to the Colorado are pretty fucking substantial if I were in the market for one.
>>15285022
Sounds like it's your problem to deal with, not truck manufacturers. Clear the shit out or shut the fuck up. 1/4 ton trucks aren't meant to pull heavy loads of farm equipment.
>>15285060
My 2000 S10 v6 works just fine.
>>15285060
Not the guy you're responding to, but while your 1/4 tons may not, our midsize pickups certainly meet that criteria
>>15285079
Congrats, not the point tho
>>15285085
Cool, but the point remains
>>15279295
finding a base truck on a lot. talk about unicorns
>>15285079
so keep using it. the only reason to replace a functioning vehicle is if you have excess cash, and want something new. if you dont like the new stuff, dont get it.
>>15285097
yeah, they usually have like 2 sports, and one offroad on the lot. the TRD's make up most of their sales.
i got tired of looking and had to factory order mine
>>15285079
>My 2000 S10 v6 works just fine.
>works just fine
>>15285092
>Congrats, not the point tho
it seems to make this thread pointless
>>15283616
chrysler is not being considered for obvious reasons
>>15282968
You may save literally one liter per 100 km on an ecoboost, best case scenario. They sound like ass and you'll get chirped for owning one and a forced induction overworked v6 is gonna break down long before a tried and true underworked v8
>>15278658
>Buying a General Malfunctions product
>>15285891
Isuzu originated product is the exception.
>>15279216
Maybe they don't want a pickup the size of a fucking city bus.
>>15278658
OP here.
I'm on vacation this week and will be buying the truck when I come back next Monday.
I went with 2016 4x4 4 door ext. Bed TRD sport. Its black and they gotta bring it in from another joint.
I'm spending alot of money, but it's 6k down now and like 330 monthly payments for the rest of my life.
I'll have a wicked truck though.
What good is money I'm not going to take it with me
I want a Tacoma so fucking bad...
>t. eurocuck
>>15288227
>330 a month on 6k down
84 month loan...?
>>15288248
72.
I am an electrician. The most "real hard work" this truck is doing is driving to a shitty jobsite with a shitty driveway, so I can put my tools on the bed and charge my batteries with that convent as fuck outlet on it
>>15288257
The outlet isn't going to be cost-effective to charge anything because the engine has to be running.
>>15288248
The math works out to 72 months, assuming he got a low interest rate (quite likely on a new vehicle purchase).
>>15278998
Oh look another factor buying a 4 door truck
You don't need a truck, you need an SUV, and I'm willing to bet you've never done a hard days work in your life and this is going to be used to get you back and forth from your shit office job
>>15279404
>"off roads" his 4cyl tacoma
Dirt roads aren't "off road"
>>15279591
>truck cap
>>15280841
So an actual truck that it's being used For it's intended purpose? Instead off dragging your ass to the dump and back once a weekend?
Gotta win the "who can spend the most money on a truck" competition between all the guys at the job site, even if it bankrupts you.
>>15288227
>mall crawler
>wicked
Whatever let's you sleep at night
>>15288227
What's the difference between the sport and off road?
>>15288532
The offroad has a different suspension package, a locking rear diff, multi terrain select, and crawl control.
It also lacks the non functional hood scoop and comes with unfinished plastic fender guards
>>15288575
Oops, hit post too early. It also lacks the front chin air dam that the other models have and instead comes with some light duty skid plates
>>15288590
damn I just can't justify dropping over 30k for a mid sized truck but those things are sex
>>15288609
Yeah, theyre steep. Mine was 45 after taxes
>>15288962
my sides
>>15288970
How's that bus treating you?
I have a 2016 Tacoma TRD 4X4 and I love it. Too bad there's like no off roading places here in Texas and I ended up taking it to some single family home tract north of my apartment that hadn't start construction yet. It's a very capable and proven platform it had no trouble with the mud even with just factory all terrains on.
>>15289560
>I have a 2016 Tacoma TRD 4X4 and I love it. Too bad there's like no off roading places here in Texas
What is south padre island national seahore. Miles, miles of beach to offroad in all the way to mexico. (almost)
>>15290036
Sadly I live in Plano. All the land around here is privately owned. There's a few places out in west Texas but I'm not willing to drive 3-4 hours for just an hour or 2 of fun. Wish I was back in California and could drive 45 minutes east of San Diego and get some great off road opportunities.
>>15288331
>you need something that seats the same, with impeded cargo space
Cool story bro.
>>15288361
>trucks can't be used for recreational off-roaring and camping
Your opinion is discarded.
>>15290828
>off-roaring
Fuck you shitbox iphone.
>>15278643
bro spend 5 on a miata, then the rest on a turbo ls swap and shit all over everyone
>>15279307
4Runner is hardly soccer mobile, I'd argue Toyota brought it back from the edge with the 5th gen, particularly the 14+ refresh that cut the gingerbread plastic cladding on the rocker panels and improved approach/departure angles. 10-13 trucks even have a classic lever shifted transfercase. But you could certainly make the argument that a lot of soccer moms drive them, the Limiteds mostly, but SR5s too. The same could be said for any 4Runner starting from the 2nd gen IMO. They were bought as more-so luxury on-road trucks by wealthy yuppies and suburbanites before getting into the hands of guys that offroad them.
>>15278643
I'd honestly suggest the Canyon or Colorado. This is coming from someone who usually hates GM too. Non Jap built Toyota trucks are overrated. It's mechanically reliable, but that's about all it's got over the competition. It's performance is nothing special, it's inefficient, has a frame known for rusting and flexing under heavy loads and comically uncomfortable, even compared to American trucks from three decades ago.
