Who makes the best luxo wagon?
Lexus need not apply.
>>15242206
Co ro lla
>>15242226
>>15242247
thelastride
>>15242241
Ahahaha no. Quality wise it's a four door Corvette, and Corvettes are utterly cheap. All it does is pic related.
>>15242226
:^)
>>15242206
JAAAAAAAAAG
>>15242241
HNNNNNNNNG
Merc
>>15242964
Cadillac quality is far higher than Corvette quality. A big reason why the new Z06 was so unreliable was cost cutting. Cadillac doesn't have that problem.
>>15242206
Best is subjective, but...
Today? MB. E63 AMG.
Most driver oriented? BMW. 2010 535xi wagon w/ a few options, like HUD, sport package.
Though if you're outside of the US, 'specially in Europe, you have will much better options.
>>15243095
>he's serious
I don't usually like Audis but this.
Imagine how much more luxurious these cars would even be if the suspension didn't have to do the sidewall's job as well.
>>15243467
body roll and side wall flex are bad ya hear
>>15243460
Recently saw one of those in all black. Menacing as fuck.
>>15243503
Yep. They're wide as fuck too.
There were some reviews of it saying it was too powerful, kek.
>>15243507
That's funny seeing as how the old one had more power and more cylinders. Those things could make like 700+hp with minimal effort.
>>15243460
This lads. I don't know why Audi doesn't just go ahead and sell these here. Mercedes manages to sell 100+ E63 wagons here per year. It costs about 2.5 million to get a model crash tested. These go for what? $120k? They'd need to sell around 22 of them to break even. I'm sure they could do that given how glowing the reviews are.
Lexus should bring the IS SportCross back
>>15243486
Only if you speed like a maniac. Somehow up until the millennium tires had much more sidewall, but cars still didn't crash left and right.
>>15243570
>>15243570
It's suspected that the CT hatchback will be replaced with a hybrid wagon version of the IS since it would give a common vehicle that could find niches in both European and US markets.
>>15243570
god the rear was so fucking ugly
>>15243571
yea I don't get it either as far as I can recall
in the 1970s most cars were 80% later 70%
then in the late 1990s 60% became more of a thing
with only super high end cars getting anything below 50%
in part larger and larger disk brakes are to blame same thing with tire width
tires that were once on 180+ mph capable 300 to 600 hp cars with overkill chassis design are now being thrown on lazy shit boxes that never see 65 mph
and everyone shits themselves the moment traction is lost or the body rolls even an inch
>>15242206
>>15243603
/thread
RS6 and C63 AMG are cool, in the last 10 years though nothing is better than the CTS-V wagon, the residual value speaks for itself, a 5 year old one with 50k miles is still $50k.
>>15243533
>implying they have a profit margin of 120k$ per car
>>15244096
A V6 E-Class retails for $53,000 in the US with a per unit profit of 30%. This means a factory price of $37,000. An AMG E63 retails for $101,000 I doubt the shocks, sport ECU, sports seats, carbon fiber and tuned V8 cost Mercedes an extra $64,000. It's safe to assume that the AMG derivative makes at least a 30% profit. Probably more considering that Dodge & BMW manage to make near 40% profit on their performance models. That said it'd probably take double the amount of units sold as the previous comment stated but you also need to factor in that for the US market, Mercedes can write off the costs for testing the vehicle in tax returns.
>>15244141
>talking shit out of your arse
>>15244141
>per unit profit of 30%
Oh yeah, the factory profits 30% on each car? How much does the shipping company make? How about the dealership that sells it? Those margins are obviously completely unsustainable in a market with as much competition as automaking, no idea where you are coming up with these random numbers.
BMW E61 M5
Because naturally aspirated 507hp V10 and 6 speed manual
Saw a V90 rolling around in Stockholm few days ago. Now, I might be a snownigger but that thing looks absolutely gorgeous. Maybe not a drivers car, 4cyl and Auto only. Coming with 400 hp hybrid drivetrain this fall I think. But for a drivers car, and I'd you don't want to pay up to 100k, I'd say get a 5-series with the 6 cylinder
>>15244141
Profit margins for automakers currently are in the 2-3% range.
Stop talking shit out of your arse.
>>15242247
Damn, this new generation of Caddies are actually looking good for the dignitary role. First time in decades.
>>15243603
Unfortunately, the CT-h is most likely going to be replaced by this monstrosity which was originally the Scion C-HR.
