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What do you guys think?
San Franciscan here, neither, git gud
>>15235101
What? Is this a serious question? I live in the mountains and I've only ever used the brake pedal. Learn to drive faggot. People like you would be better off with aN automatic
Just ease off the clutch more carefully pussy
it's unsafe to heel toe because you might roll back if you make a mistake.
neither
you can roll back a centimeter or two, you won't die
Learn the bite point better. You shouldn't roll back more than a few inches.
let go of brake, start clutching out same time, grab it and go with the go pedal
>>15235114
i have literally never seen a mountain or hill in my life and really want to learn how to do this. I've been driving manual for 6 years
>>15235366
you don't have on ramps or overpasses?
>>15235101
>not having hill start assist
>>15235101
heel toe. blip throttle, off brake, let out clutch
I live on a decently steep hill and when I first got a manual I thought I'd have a really shitty time. I tried the handbrake a few times but really just taking off normally does it fine.
>>15235101
Depends on how I'm parked. If I'm doing a hill start out of a parallel park I'll use the hand brake.
If I'm on a normal hill I'll use the pedals.
>>15235101
I have torks. :)
>>15235399
t never started on a real hill / doesn't know what blip means
>>15235101
Fucking neither. I let my truck roll back until the clutch is engaged. If I bump into someone behind me, maybe they shouldn't have stopped so fucking close to my bumper.
>>15235108
>San Franciscan here
I wish I knew this before, it sure explains a hell of a lot
>>15235101
>not having a car with hill start assist
>>15235101
right. left is for newfags
>>15235399
>blip the throttle to start from a stop
what the fuck
slowly release the clutch pedal and slowly press the accelerator pedal congratulations you are driving
>>15235585
>having a car with AIDS
hill assist, so neither :^)
>>15235101
Lookie lookie we got a rookie
>>15235101
Is this some sort of meme?
How hard is it to switch your foot from the brake, to the accelerator? Like a quarter second. You do not roll back enough during that time.
I just do it normally but with more throttle.
>Being paranoid
Rolling back a couple of inches has never killed someone and if i where to hit someone behind me, that person was too close to being with.
>Hand brake method
Too tacky
>Heel toe
My pedals are too weird for that ;_;
>>15235114
Using handbrake is proper driving tho
>>15235734
People rarely drive manual so I've got people pushing me behind on the hill. Fucking retards I really want to jump out and beat them
Handbrake for parallel parking on steep hills.
My newest car has hillstart assist and let me tell you anyone withoit doesnt know what they are missing out on.
>>15235101
you know the hand brake method is just the more practical one if you don't want to roll back a little
>>15235868
This. Parallel parking in Seattle has forced me to use the handbrake.
It's 2016 and it's called brake assist.
>>15235919
Yeah you certainly grow some balls after the first few times.
>>15235101
>left
this is only reserved for people with no ability to drive on a hill but holy FUCK apparently it's 100% the stamdard procedure in japan and china. i have no respect left for asians
>>15235860
I feel you senpai, people usually realize you are driving manual and let a little bit of space in front of them, but when they don't give a fuck I also don't give a fuck and let the car roll a little bit even if it hits them.
Soccer moms being the number 1 offender
>quickly release clutch to bite point
>slip clutch until it's fully released
Not that hard if you know your car.
>>15235982
>he doesn't handbrake drift at every opportunity
>>15236035
>4th pedal for parking brake
at least i get a laff when people wonder why i have so many pedals
>>15236052
what car?
>>15236035
>not reading the op
also,
>not using a braking drift
>>15235108
>TFW your dad taught you to drive stick in SF
>>15235101
Usually right but sometimes left especially if somebody is close as fuck.
>>15235860
>have auto
>been yearn for that manual life
>whenever I'm on hill, I put it into neutral to roll back and scare the people behind me a bit
idk why
>>15236138
>big intersection with stop light on big ass hill
>always wait at the bottom when there are cars at the top
Christ I'm a lazy fuck
>>15236153
>>always wait at the bottom when there are cars at the top
sometimes I do this, but it's because I drive a 2004 civic and I rather not have to rev it to 4k to get up the hill
>>15235377
>>15235585
>>15235643
>>15235868
>>15235925
Never heard of this hill-assist, so I looked it up.
MFW this is how weak we've become.
>>15236160
2003 Jetta with the AC running I think I just barely have 100 horsepower.
why do americans feel the need to act macho about driving manual
>>15236218
it's weird, isn't it?
>tell someone you can't drive manual
HAHA RETARD, IT'S EASY AS FUCK
>someone is telling you about how they can drive manual
I'M SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU, I'M BEST DRIVER ;DDD
>>15236218
it's not acting macho, it's more about
>he can't drive a manual
>laughinggirls.png
it's pathetic
Get an automatic and you don't have to worry about it like some fool
>>15236218
I don't feel macho, a manual just makes me realize how much more I hate every other driver on the road, and that makes me hard.
>not always permanently disabling hill assist
Though I guess I'll turn it on when I finally get around to teaching my girl to drive manual.
>>15236248
iktf
>occupation is driving
tfw hatred is my fuel
>>15236064
>not using clutch kick
>not using shift lock
>not using lift off
what kind of pleb are you
>>>needing brakes to lock your wheels
>>15235101
Handbreak nigger
>>15236255
>clutch kick
Mah nigga
Of the 2 choices, handbrake. I would never try to do that heel toe crap. But I never use the handbrake for hill starts personally.
>>15235995
>wix god tier
>mobil 1, champion, ACDelco mid tier
nigga you crazy
>>15235604
>he doesn't blip the throttle at every takeoff
>>15235354
>let go of brake, start clutching out same time
Thats gonna stall before the foot gets to gas pedal
>start learning manual
>barely even driven it and I can almost perfectly hill start with just my feet
>end up being stuck learning in an auto
>lost that ability, can't even handbrake start properly now
>>15237178
No? The point is to get to clutch's bite point: not moving but not stalling either.
>>15237178
>how to spot someone who doesn't drive manual
bite point bre
>>15235101
>use brake pedal
>normies assume you drive an auto because your brake lights are on
>they WOT up your ass while you're barely moving
>>15236060
older mercs for example
190, w124 etc
Let clutch out till it bites, off the brakes and on to the gas, pull away.
I've never done it any other way and I've never stalled on a hill or rolled back more than an inch, usually I don't roll back at all. My 1.4l shitbox has literally no low end torque, so I'd I can do it, so can you.
Driving school sending us through a freak 7% incline to practice sure paid off.
>>15235167
>>15235193
>>15235205
>>15235347
>All these amerifats rollin
>>15237178
There's a point in which your car just holds there without moving, you can hit that point without stalling, it puts stress into the clutch but if you do it smooth enough its fine.
>Brake still in
>Move the clutch towards the bitting point
>Let off the brake and put some throttle.
>Ease off the clutch to start moving slowly, press it again + brake if necessary.
>>15235838
It's not though. Learn to drive without needing E-brake assistance. It's literally pathetic. If you cant balance the clutch and throttle on a hill, you don't need a manual.
I used to always ride the clutch or just hold the clutch and the brake down, then blip throttle and go...
I've stopped doing either as much now as I've absolutely fucked my throwout bearing after doing this daily for the last 12000 miles.
I don't do the handbrake method unless my feet ache from driving all day.
>>15235101
Neither you stupid shit. You just do it the normal way, except a bit faster.
>>15237276
>3.5°
Look at this bad ass over here.
>>15235101
Fucking stupid. you don't fucking heel toe to get started
>>15237588
This
Why use heel toe or handbrake when you can simply hold both clutch and brake and slowly release clutch until it gets to catch point and then step on gas and release clutch fully?
Heel toe is for boiracers realy and handbrake is sometimes foot operated.
what are you niggers talking about
handbrake on when you're at a red light in the hills. If you want to go just drop the clutch about 3/8's of the way, keep the revs up and take the handbrake off. Piss easy, faggots with zero roll back
>>15237622
Why wear the clutch out? Why use the handbrake? Just learn to fucking drive you pussy
>>15237637
why not smash into the car behind me and hold liability? im not dumping the clutch and driving off with the handbrake on you goddamn retard its not harming anything
Hand-brake obviously, it's what it's there for.
There's no point in wearing your clutch out in these circumstances, and engaging the hand-brake when stationary puts ZERO wear on your brakes, while making for a much more graceful and controlled start.
It takes very little hand-brake force to hold a car on anything but the steepest of hills, during which you can leave the gearbox in neutral with your foot off the clutch pedal entirely.
When it's time to get moving, just leave normally, with the hand-brake still engaged initially, and releasing it as you begin moving. By leaving the hand-brake engaged momentarily, until you're fully committed to leaving, you essentially have weak autobrakes. Just don't engage the hand-brake too hard, only enough to prevent the car from rolling backwards. It doesn't take much to overcome it and drive forward.
This helps tremendously when negotiating complicated and busy hilly intersections like one finds in downtown San Francisco. Be aware however, leaving with the hand-brake even partially engaged will put some wear on the rear brakes, but slipping the clutch for extended periods in these situations puts incredible wear on the clutch, and brake pads are far cheaper to replace.
I presume many of the people saying to just drive normally leaving from hills are driving trucks or other vehicles with substantial torque and/or rotating mass. I know my pickup requires far less effort to drive in such situations, it can just idle away from the average inclined stop without stalling. But the average car is a 4 cylinder these days, and the hand-brake is often placed right next to the shifter on such vehicles to make it equally accessible for this reason.
>>15237542
>treating the clutch as a wear item
>>15237261
This looks like a picture of those people with a smaller deformed 6th finger
>legs too long to do hektik heel toe
let off clutch until you hear rpms start to dip
let off brake, move foot to gas
give slight gas and finish releasing clutch
How do you people fuck this up?
I just make my wheels squeal. I smash the gas to get the revs all high and then I just release the clutch shoots me forward. Too scared of rolling back and hitting the car behind me, barely started driving stick
Or I do the thing in the OP only no brake pedal
>>15237710
>assuming I meant not holding the brake in until the light turns green, then engaging the clutch
Learn to drive faggot
>>15237261
gotta love the CLUNK sound it makes when you release the parking brake
>>15237178
is your foot a fucking snail?
I've never had trouble with this.
>>15235101
punta tacco (second picture) always
God, you guys don't even know that there's a name to this maneuver
Lmao alot of non v8+ fags that don't have the power to idle up hills
>>15237261
Is this pedal like a switch? Press one time to engage it, press again to release it? Otherwise, how do you release it?
m8 gotta go drifting
>>15235101
Neither.
Car has its own hill break assist. Spoiled me rotten.
>>15237783
not everyone's mexican
>>15236248
> Every day commute
> Get so angry, now I don't feel anymore
> Now I just do whatever I need to do to get ahead with no emotion
> Last week I drove through a construction zone because they left the fucking cones out blocking everything instead of putting them away.
> I haven't even worked here for one year yet
> I'm afraid of my future
>>15238181
Where do you live? The hill I have outside my house will stall my 6bt cummins with 4.10 gears in low.
>>15235101
europoor driving a underpowered shitbox here
i use handbrake mostly because even though i don't roll back the car struggles to accelerate and doing this may wear out some part that i don't know in Angloid
>>15238302
it's an italian name used by professional drivers in the entire world
/o/ sometimes you can dissapoint...
>>15235101
For me it's situational. I don't roll back if I use brakes only, but I'm lazy. Handbrake does the job if I want to sit in neutral and have to wait for eons.
>>15238764
Or you know, people that speak a different language have their own words for heel and toeing.
>>15238764
whatever jose
now mow my lawn
https://youtu.be/_cbZlhduYJY?t=302
>>15238848
>rest my foot on the clutch in town
>keep my hand on the shifter in town
>never use the handbrake to hillstart
Well guess I'm fucked
>>15235101
For steep hills I use the E-brake, for less steep hills I use the second method.
>>15235101
My 2015 Honda civic manual has a thing called brake hold. It holds the brake down for 5 seconds when on an incline. All I gotta do in clutch in first and press the gas and it releases. Plebs stay with your E brake crap
>>15235669
>How hard is it to switch your foot from the brake, to the accelerator
>switch your foot from the brake, to the accelerator
>On a hill
I'm starting to think this is some kind of /o/ meme bait bs Are there really people that can't come to a stop and hold the gas and clutch on the bite without rolling? Sure if you're going to be there a while you can save your clutch and apply the e-brake but when you move away you lift the clutch and apply the gas to the correct bite before you remove the brake, right? Like there aren't people stopped on hills removing their e-brake and rolling back before they hit the gas? Is this just an American thing? In the UK, driving lessons pretty much start with correct clutch control, if you roll back on hills you fail your test and don't even get a license.
>>15236052
>A pedal for drifting
Could this be installed as an aftermarket mod?
my car has hill assist.
people behind me may think im a god at hill starts.
alternatively, i like to roll back a bit on purpose to let the person behind me know not to ride my ass up a hill
>>15235101
balance the clutch and deal with it.
>>15235101
Subaru™ Hill start assist™
>>15235860
I roll back at people on purpose when on a hill in stop and go traffic, they typically get the message so I don't have to be as hard on the clutch.
I keep thinking to myself "THIS CAR ONLY COMES WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION YOU FUCK STICK!" (Civic Si, S2000, STI) Then I remember not everyone cares about cars like we do. Now I have the 911 and it's a 70/30 split between PDK and manual, so I stopped being irrationally angry.
>>15236252
tfw i don't know how to turn off hill assist in my wrx
>>15241158
>Sure if you're going to be there a while you can save your clutch and apply the e-brake but when you move away you lift the clutch and apply the gas to the correct bite before you remove the brake, right?
Only if you are a newfag. When I use the handbrake, I release both the handbrake and the clutch and apply the gas all at the same time in a smooth motion. I don't have to find the biting point anymore.
>>15237783
>Punta Tacco
Sounds tasty
Steep hills with handbrake because it's more relaxed and I drive low torque car.
>>15235101
When I used to drive a manual on inclines, I used the clutch to hold the car in place for the short time it took to release the brake and apply the throttle, then I eased into the throttle while simutaneously lifting off the clutch.
I have hill start assist, aww yeah.
>>15237178
This is what happens when you drive a 1.0l 3cyl diesel in Europe.
My dad also gave me to the handbrake let out and gas etc bullshit, I think it's because he learned on a beetle.
>>15237734
I like this guy
>>15235101
my 1994 Subaru Loyale comes standard with Hill start assist.
the clutch cable has a linkage to the master cylinder that holds the brakes if i push on the brakes while the clutch in pressed down fully.
pic related, not mine tho.
>>15245513
scratch that, not hill start, Hill holder.
handbrake, shitbox torque is not existing
>>15235734
>if I where to hit someone behind me
rollbacker talk
holy fuck is everyone autistic, all you have to do is
>keep brake pressed
>press in clutch
>select gear
>quickly switch foot from brake to gas pedal
>take off like normal
>>15235101
LOL
What the fuck is this? You're acting as if it's some ridiculously complicated process to start on a hill. Am I missing something?
>>15235193
Literally how? Your foot is on the brake.
Handbrake
because I value my fucking clutch.
I'd never clutch slip to hold a hill.
