Post factory options that are completely pointless.
Inb4 manual transmission
>>15233558
But they aren't pointless. They're cheaper to manufacture and rebuild, thus making a new car with a manual cheaper. They're also more fuel efficient.
automatic headlight and wipers
>>15233550
but it looks bretty gool
>>15233579
And so cheap to replace!
>>15233604
Oh wow!! 40% off!!
Holy shit what a deal! You better snatch those up!!!!
>>15233574
Sadly this. As much as I love having both of those features the headlight assemblies for new cars with light sensors cost an outrageous amount to replace, so if you get in an accident that compromises a light have fun replacing that shit.
>>15233611
Now I can finally clear away that pesky clear liquid that completely impairs my ability to see the road!
Electric windows. They're only useful if you're 85 years old and very weak, otherwise I don't see the point.
>motorized tailgates that open when you swipe your foot under the rear bumper but it doesn't work 9 out of 10 times and you're forced to do a one footed ballet with your hands full, and putting down your cargo or getting your car keys in your hand before loading your arms full of crap would've probably been easier
>>15233630
Or autistic. I like to have the windows on both sides of the car down the same distance which is impossible to achieve mid-drive with crank windows, and when you lower your windows before the drive and then it starts raining you're fucked if you have crank windows and no passenger.
>>15233630
Yeah, I definitely love having to lean over the center console and passenger seat to roll a window down
>motorized soft close trunk/hatch/door closures
their mechanical counterparts can actually last generations
properly aligned doors practically fall shut
>>15233550
>hey, how can we make sunroofs worse? More leak prone, more of a hassle to use, more detrimental to the structure of the car
>how about we cut 3/4 of the roof out and make it removable?
>brilliant!
>>15233626
To be fair I'm pretty sure these were made for snowy climates. Then headlight and mirror defrosters became a thing.
>tire pressure sensors that fuck up and show constant errors if you change the wheels yourself and don't get the electronic diddly-hoos readjusted or reset in the shop
>they're not an option, but mandatory on new cars since last year
>>15233630
Sometimes I roll down the passenger window while driving
>>15233653
>aftermarket t top
>>15233573
Most new cars get better MPG with an automatic, BRZ being an obvious one.
>>15233630
a lot of hate directed toward you, so i'll defend.
>>15233644
autistic who needs things exactly the same, can't plan based on weather.
>>15233646
>>15233678
i can't do anything about my windows until i'm driving?
>>15233604
if it's pointless why the fuck are you looking in to replacing it
>>15233688
>>aftermarket t top
If they offered a factory t-top I'd buy one right now. I loved the ones on my 3rd gen.
>>15233550
The side steps on small SUVs like my Escape. I think they are an expeensive option too
>>15233704
Thanks. That was half bait half shitpost though.
I honestly can see how electric windows are convenient.
>>15233691
That's because BRZs are babbies first car
>>15233710
I'm not you fucking dolt. I'm pointing out that it's a pointless feature that costs 230 bucks to replace when it inevitably fails
>>15233573
I know, I Inb4ed it because I knew some moron who can't drive standard would post it. Do you people even Inb4?
More than 2 doors
"moon" rooves
>>15233665
>yfw you don't have to go to a shop to get the tpms light turned off
Digital dash.
The new "yeah just replace all the HVAC and radio controls with a touch-pad" craze.
>>15233665
You don't have an option to do this in the car menu? I know VAG uses the ABS sensors for detecting tire pressure changes, and it can be adjusted in the CAR section of the infotainment.
>>15233885
"""Sport Package""" on shitboxes. Look at corolla s. Rice from factory
>>15233573
They're not more efficient anymore.
Auto, DCT, and CVT are all more efficient.
As much as I love myself a good manuél trans, they are lagging in efficiency.
>>15233653
Its the opposite, actually. In the early 70s, the NHTSA was thinking about cracking down on noodley convertibles, and mandating higher chassis stiffness, so automakers had to look for a better alternative than a convertible. That's where the popularity of targa, T-Tops, and sunroofs boomed.
>>15233550
airbags: a device that punches you in the face for crashing...
>>15233574
lada has them so not that expensive
air conditioning: a device that uses more petrol (diesel) because you are too lazy to open a widow.
any convertable that doesnt have a hard top option
or any roof that has litlle lights in it so it makes you look like you are looking at the night sky
>>15233885
I really, really liked the looks of Cadillac's all touch dashboards but after actually using one I can say it's pure fucking cancer and a pain in the ass to use. Lincoln's dash mounted transmission buttons are also awkward and unnatural to use. Nothing wrong with them at all, they just "feel" alien.to use.
>>15234046
Forgot my image, but this shit right here is unresponsive as hell. We have cell phones that are crazy responsive yet this is the shit you'll find in a car you paid 30 thousand for?
>>15234046
aston marton lagonda. was the first car with touch pad controls and most of them dont work. will cost a small fortune just in repairs to make them work
>>15234059
>Those volume buttons
Absolutely FUCKING DISGUSTING.
why do car manufacturers think i want my car to be a wifi hotspot? i dont need to post to facebook while im driving. all i want is to have my usb connectivity and thats it.
>>15233550
>Following another car on a dirt road at night
>Car ahead of you throws dust all over your headlights causing their output to dim
>Wash lights off without stopping
>Driving during snowstorm
>Snow cakes your headlights alloing no light to pass though
>Turn on wipers
>Wipes off the snow but theres ice underneath
>Turn on sprayer and wipers
>Ice is melted and you can see again
>>15234101
In all of my 15 years of driving, some of them in pretty bad winters, I can safely say Iv never had problems with snow on my headlights at night. If I did, I wiped it off before leaving and never even remembered because it wasn't an issue.
also, why you tailgating cars on dirt roads at night in your Mercedes?
>>15233573
Looks like we triggered this manual fag who has to defend his purchase of a manual econobox and hates his decision every day when he has to drive a manual in traffic.
>>15233719
have you seen the lincoln navigator? their side steps have motors. talking about expensive features
>>15234109
In all my less than 15 years of driving I've had plenty of instances where snow accumulates on the headlight lens as I'm driving so wiping it off before I leave only helps for 5 mins. Shit on my way to moab my jeep headlights would get caked in ice so fast that I had to gwet out and wipe them off every 5 mins to see. And if ou have LED bulbs theres no heat to melt snow or ice so then you're fucked even if the snow isn't sticky.
>>15233604
They're usually super easy to "rebuild" (aka clean) yourself if you're not a complete retard.
>>15234059
My mom got a new Explorer with the Ford touchscreen shit
It's actually not as bad as most I've used, but it just makes it more annoying to do the most basic shit
I shouldn't have to navigate through 3 menus just to change the radio station
>>15233550
Apparently you do not live somewhere with salted roads during the winter
>>15234067
Its a Cadillac of course its disgusting.
>>15233633
Waiting 10 seconds for those bastard's to open when I could have done it myself in 2
>>15234167
Never understood why people prefer salted roads over just using fucking snow tires.
>>15234124
weird, i have full led lightbars on my raptor and ive never had any problems with them getting caked up or blocked in the snow, wet or dry. i know youre not supposed to use like a heater inside your car to try to melt ice on your windshield, maybe the temp of the bulb is actually detrimental? my lightbars aren't straight and flat against oncoming air though, they're set at an angle and the LED bulbs inside are angled as well, maybe that makes a big difference?
im definitely one of those more dollars than sense kinds of people when it comes to things like that though. i only have personal experience to rely on in this case. i live on the lee side of a mountain overlookin a big bay in alaska and we get all kinds of absolutely crazy snow here
>>15234059
Imagine what it would be like with voice controls.
>"Car, change the radio station to preset 5"
>"Are you sure you want to shut off the engine?"
>>15234191
Any reason why you didnt get an actual truck?
>>15234229
>"Car, give me full power for more than lap!"
>"Overheating mode enabled!"
DAMN YOU GM!
>>15233959
Technically speaking, standard transmissions hold the benchmark for power efficiency (ignoring CVT's). DCT's are essentially automated manual transmissions with two clutches, so to say that standard transmissions aren't efficient would be a contradiction in itself.
Conventional automatics with torque converters inherently suffer worse parasitic loss, however they mitigate this by adding 6+ gear ratios and smarter TCU's, sensors, and throttle mapping to make up for their shortcomings.
>>15234190
The state pays to salt the roads, therefore I have no option.
Snow tires are a lot of money as well.
When I visited NY a while ago. Any van with a sliding door made after 2012 had sliding door motors.
I thought it was cool at first but when you are hopping in and out of the van it feels like you are waiting a long time. It got old real quick and I yearned for a manual door because according to various owners and rental companies manually opening the door will damage the motor.
The automatic rear door too. Why.
>>15233604
My parents paid nearly 600 for ONE BMW headlight washer installed at a dealer ~5 years ago after it snapped off
>>15234280
You're frame rotting in half can also be quite costly. I've never understood why people don't just buy an old awd shitbox and throw some nice snow tires on it to drive in winter months in the rust belt. Then again I've only seen snow 3 times in the past 2 years. Feels great man
>>15234365
Lol I would either leave it or remove the other one and blank them out. Sell the good one
>>15234256
Don't forget flex lockup pretty much all manufacturers are locking up the torque converter while you are maintaining speed
>>15233957
They're either for teenagers trying to not look like a complete faggot driving a corolla or mid-aged men because thats the most sporty car he can get since his wife wont allow him a sports car because of muh children.
>>15234374
When your truck frame rots out its not a big deal, but when your Subaru rots out your driving a Flintstones car in the snow
>>15234374
People do do that, except they have a nice sporty car for the summers and drive around a Camry the rest of the year. I for one drive an old WRX with some blizzaks on it during the winters
>>15234395
So who's the Sienna SE for?
>>15234388
My 1993 escudo has lockup on overdrive and lock up on direct drive (when you have over drive off)
Many automatics that were developed in the early 90's have lockup so it is not a new thing
>>15234044
>air conditioning: a device that uses more petrol (diesel) because you are too lazy to open a widow.
you must live someplace with no sun
even here in washington it's stupid hot during the summer, and my car gets such bad mpg that a/c doesn't really make a impact
>>15233719
those are pointless with modern SUV's being so low to the ground in the first place
>>15234123
And they have the lights and shit. Just something else to break right outside of warranty.
>>15234557
Exactly my point. I'm pretty sure they are just there for looks. Plus they are positioned almost under the car so you won't trip over them getting in and out but they would be really hard to step on even if you used them. My old Explorer was the same, but maybe an inch higher off the ground. I think it was like a $900 option for those running boards too.
>>15233630
Driving is weak. Walk your self to your next destination , weak ass bitch.
>>15234044
Youre clearly not too smart, or live in the North Pole. Here in Texas it gets uo to 110*, some times hotter. I dont car how many windows you open, AC is a MUST.
>>15234232
yeah I don't need much in terms of heavy hauling or towing capacity and i wanted something that carries at least a little bit of respect (read: $$) when subjectively viewed by the locals. I'm a california desert boy by birth, im just up here for a while because the money is too damn good to pass up. I used to have an old prerunner with a built up tube chassis and absurd lift. the very essence of a desert bro truck. Gave it to my now ex girlfriend before i moved up here because I needed a lot more creature comfort to survive the long drives i need to take in winter here.
In essence, I wanted to spend a lot of money on a vehicle with a big price tag, but most of those things are sports cars and absolutely would not survive up here.
JAPAAAAAAAN
>>15234604
can't agree more. this is the reason why I'm going to get some old 90s car when i got the money
>>15233618
>Accident compromising the head lights
On a new car that's basically any kind of front end collision over 10 MPH
>>15233653
Had a 300zx with T tops and it was based as fuck IMO. Loved that car.
>>15233653
That seriously looks gross
>>15233691
I think that's mostly because of longer final drive ratios. A manual trans will always be more efficient than an auto that pushes fluid around a big veiny wheel dealy to convert the engine rotation to the trans, unless it's a trans that basically has a clutch.
The automatic version one of my cars, that is a stick shift, gets much better mileage. My other car is an auto but the manual gets better mileage due to the super long gears. Can't win lol
>>15234768
I think Trans Am pulled them off.
>>15234388
A traditional torque converter won't ever fully lock unless it has a clutching mechanism specifically to do that.
>>15234805
Yeah but on a modern car, fuck naawwww
>>15233630
You've obviously never driven a big truck like f750 without power windows. I'm tall as fuck and it's near impossible to roll the window down
>>15234229
My Subaru has voice controls just for the hands-free phone, it's so irredeemably bad that I don't know why they bother
>Dial number
>"What is the number?"
>4 0 3 3 8 3 8 7 9 2
>...
>"4003038588397792 - is this correct?"
>Dial number
>"What is the number?"
>Eight
>...
>"Five - is this correct?"
>>15234776
It got closer too because manufacturers are putting 6spd+ autos in cars now. Just a few years ago, a manual version of a given car would have a 5spd or 6spd while the auto version was 3spd or 4spd.
>>15233630
>>15233678
I drive around with just the passanget rear window down so I can listen to my turbo whistle
>>15234665
What do you do that pays so well? Your not the navigator compass guy are you?
>>15233550
>completely pointless
actually they are very helpful in muddy dirt roads anon
>>15234190
Very few that I know prefer salted roads. The problem is when you put complete retards on the road, with no prior experience & winter tires of very low quality. If these people drive on roads covered in scraped ice its a disaster waiting to happen
If everyone knew how to drive according to the conditions and were kitted properly it wouldn't be a problem, but thats sadly not going to happen
I'd also add; headlight wipers/sprayers are required on HID/xenon headlights, as a dirty glass in one of those will throw sharp light everywhere, blinding oncomers
>>15234101
But headlights get warm and melt snow.
Passenger seats
>>15233550
automatic headlights
why are these a thing?
>>15237594
>I'd also add; headlight wipers/sprayers are required on HID/xenon headlights, as a dirty glass in one of those will throw sharp light everywhere, blinding oncomers
No they aren't.
>>15237800
Daytime lights are required by law in some euro countries, people forget to turn them on and get jewed by the popo. A convenience like any other, really.
>>15234121
Driving a manual in a traffic is hard? Is this the 90's?
Fuck off wymin
>>15237960
Daytime running lights and automatic headlights are totally different.
Automatic headlights have a light sensor on the dash and turn on your driving lights when it doesn't detect light.
Daytime running lights are on as soon as you switch the ignition on no matter the conditions
>>15233604
My Mercedes would learn how to live without headlight wipers
>>15234689
Because its so fucking hard to stick a rag out the window
>>15233579
>but it looks bretty gool
They're one of the worst things to have because they bring out the jealous vandal rage in angsty elitist people.
>>15238030
I don't have the automatic lights in my Outback, just because the sensor stopped working and I don't care to change it
>>15234353
People have children.
People are careless and likely slam doors on rentals all the time.
>>15237594
Its also the fuckers who have a 4wd option and think their car is invincible with it on
>>15234805
Modern cars are too differently shaped for them to look good. Hell, they barely passed on the 4th gens
>>15234101
>Snow cakes your headlights
Which is why they generally are coated.
Or why there is generally some form of heating in/around them, because its a real issue.
Or why the aerodynamics of the car body keeps on making the car smooth, to avoid snow even landing there in the first place.
Also:
>Tailgating
>On dust road
Seriously don't fucking do this. The sight loss is intense.
>>15233630
You've obviously only ever owned a piece of shit with manual windows. Once you go electric, you don't go back.
>>15234101
The heat from the headlights will melt snow you fucking idiot
>>15234808
A lot of newer ones have a locking mechanism in the torque converter itself. For example, the Lexus 8-speed in sport mode will lock in second to eighth gear.
>>15234101
I live in Canada and snow on headlights isn't a problem. Also why would you tailgate someone on a dirt road at night close enough for dirt to get on your car? Seems pretty dangerous tbqh.
>>15233558
>Autism: The post
>>15233665
I paid $45 for the doohicky that resets it. Now I can swap out my tires at my leisure. Didn't seem like too much of an investment.
Three door cars.
Omitting the fourth door is fucking pointless.
>guys, it's, uh, sportier, because fewer doors, enjoy your family hauler huh uheh eueheuh
>>15233573
All lies. Nobody even rebuilds manuels anymore because it's cheaper to salvage another transmission.
They're only more efficient than bottom of the barrel herky-jerky autotragics like you find in corollas.
The sole reason to buy a manuel transmission is because you fucking like it.
>>15234082
ALL cars are designed and marketed with women in mind, because women influence car buying the most. If a man buys a car, it better get the girls. Women want to post on facebook in the passenger seat. Women want to have kids and keep them quiet with internet access (oh and why is our son a furry now? damn).
It's the same reason cars get bigger and taller without actually being safer unless you crash into a much smaller car, in which case you're a fucking murderer because mass wins every time
>tfw safety obsessed govt doesn't regulate car sizes to ensure that nobody drives something unnecessarily large
>tfw it's buy a crossover or get killed by Mrs. Momington on the day she figures she's good enough to facebook and drive at the same time
