How did we go from this
to this
>>15217578
>muh safety
Airbags and crumple zones and whatever else.
>>15217580
>>15217578
Because soccer moms buy more cars than speedy speed boys.
>CVT
honda can't engineer
Despite what tuners and ricer make civics out to be, they're still A-B economy cars.
>>15217628
>EK9
>A-B economy car
Would make for an awful DD.
>>15217602
No, safety standards altered the structural requirements and flashy overly detailed body work is a fad now.
>>15217636
Wouldn't be that bad besides the rough ride
>>15217637
To be fair soccer moms are the ones responsible for all the safety nonsense being rammed down our throats.
>"I need to be safe so I can text and do my makeup while driving."
>"Won't somebody think of the children."
>>15217636
Still based on an economy car platform regardless of what modifications have been made to it.
>>15217636
I guess people keep getting softer
>>15217580
This could be a Kia. Or a Toyota. Or a Subaru. Or a Ford. Or a Dodge. Or a Fiat.
arr rook same
>>15217628
Nope
>>15217654
They're noisy as shit too apparently, and the insurance for one is probably absurd. I was looking at a FN2 last year and it was $3k a year for full coverage - $1k more than a blobeye WRX.
>>15217661
>the Evo and STi are A to B economy cars
>>15217580
Thick chrome bar grilles are going to be a passing may may like plastic exteriors were in the early '00s
>>15217674
Insurance cost is based on price of the car plus how often they get into accidents, among other things... that bug eye wrx is old and not worth as much as a newer civic. Insurance companies don't care about the rice tax
>>15217691
plastic exterior is still a popular thing though
>>15217696
>how often they get into accidents
That was the biggest surprise of all, though. I was under the impression the WRX was king of being pulled over or wrapped around streetlights. Price was probably the big factor there, though it had me wondering how many crashed FN2s were sitting in the junkyard.
>>15217597
>>15217602
>>15217660
>>15217662
all valid
The increasing punishments for speeding/racing/wreckless driving hasn't helped the performance aspect either. This is how I believe we got to the hamburgering lap time benchmark and such. people are too scared to push it because of the risk and police have tighter quotas and just seem more by the book then when I was younger. The chances of getting a flash of the lights or let go with a warning is much slimmer. So they come with number sheets you can show your friends and cup holders under the hood so you can dickwag about your 70000hp you never use half of.
THe 90s-Oughts were the last hurrah and talk shit as you will but the ricer scene were the last true hot rodders duking it out at the stoplights. I miss it so much
>>15217688
I'm not saying that performance oriented models of an economy platform aren't performance cars...
But it's retarded to believe that Honda is always designing the civic with performance first in mind, nobody should be surprised at the way this generation turned out.
>>15217807
not sure why people are upset, the si hasn't even been announced yet, it very well could have a different body style or something to set it apart from the boring touring editions
>>15217636
>EK9 is a bad commuter
fucking why. Gas mileage is fine, reliability is fine, ride quality is fine, storage space is fine. Okay, you could have something more comfy, bigger or reliable, but that doesnt mean that the EK9 wasn't good enough.
Type R honda eco-boxes have always been a god tier combination of practicality and performance.
>>15217826
Autists are upset because Honda didn't make some out-of-the-house tuner-friendly god machine from a fucking budget economy car that was never designed to cater towards enthusiasts in the first place.