Where were you when gasoline was kill?
http://electrek.co/2016/06/03/norway-gasoline-powered-car-ban-2025/
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/738805691528318976
>>15205483
what a fucking douchebag.
Do you think the consumers realize he only exists because of government subsidies?
>>15205488
>he actually thinks that gas and diesel vehicles aren't subsidized in any way
Before 2030 most of the developed world would have ban oil. On the other hand, sandniggers will go full ape (if that even possible) because their only income will be banned and thus making them poor again.
>>15205478
Why?
Just make it so all new cars have to be extended range electric.
Gasoline/diesel burn cleaner than coal, and batteries will always be shit.
The way to make the best electric car is to have as little battery weight as possible, and the only way to do that is with chemical energy storage.
>>15205478
Progressive as fuck.
I guarantee they will benefit from this.
>>15205478
Does that mean E85 for everyone?
>>15206096
The true purpose is to restrict travel.
Its a way to artificially limit travel range to within cities.
>Top 8 container ships pollute as much as all cars on earth cause they burn crude oil. Not doing anything about this
>Batteries are garbage right now, and swapping out battery packs every five years cause everyone would quick charge them and kill them won't be bad for the environment.
>Batteries are literally concentrated blocks of cancer
>Many countries use coal power plants. Basically transferring fossil fuels to electricity instead of just burning fossil fuels in the first place. Energy being lost with the conversion.
>Nuclear power plants are spooky.
>No decent electric truck options available yet
This seems like a really well thought out decision.
>>15205478
They are not banning new fuel powered cars, they are setting a goal for when it's not point in buying new fuel cars, anyone who wanna buy one can still do so in 10 years.
One of the parties have even said that calling it a ban is misleading since it's not a ban.
>>15206413
To back this up, here are two articles explaining that it's not a ban.
https://www.frp.no/aktuelt/2016/06/bensinogdieselbiler-skal-ikke-forbys
http://www.dagbladet.no/2016/06/03/nyheter/innenriks/bil/politikk/energimeldingen/44440269/
>not embracing nuclear powered cars, the superior energy
Imagine fuelling your car once in your lifetime and having zero emissions
>>15206458
One of these days anon
>muh coal fired powerplant meme
Stop this, There's hardly any left in the world and most are in China.
Anyway, electric is gay
>>15206458
all fun and games until some guy in a blue suit shoots at it
>>15206458
>girl texting while drinking starbucks rear ends your nuclear reactor
>die
>>15206137
Why do you guarantee this?
>>15206495
as wikipedia states "Coal-fired power plants provide about 39 percent of consumed electricity in the United States, as of March 2016" i guess you are wrong
Almost all power in Norway is hydro-electric, and electricity is cheap as shit. That's why this makes sense for them where it wouldn't in other countries.
>>15206252
>drinking the oil company kool-aid
>>15206530
>less than 40%
Jesus Christ get with it. every year more and more of them close for good. They're being legislated out of existence very rapidly. There's even fewer in yuro.
>>15206252
>biggest cruise ship in the world visits Rotterdam, is docked at the cruise terminal in the city centre
>the city is unable to provide enough power to run the entire ship, so it keeps it's engines running
>meanwhile your are not allowed to drive your car inside the centre if your car doesn't meet the emission standards because 'the city council is working on cleaner air'
I'm so mad
>>15206252
>Top 8 container ships pollute as much as all cars on earth cause they burn crude oil. Not doing anything about this
Quantity is only part of the equation. Those ships are pumping out those polutants in the middle of the ocean where it doesn't hurt anyone, as opposed to cars clustered in cities.
>Batteries are garbage right now, and swapping out battery packs every five years cause everyone would quick charge them and kill them won't be bad for the environment.
>Batteries are literally concentrated blocks of cancer
Maybe do your own research instead of parroting talking points from people with an agenda. Batteries last way more than 5 years and are typically recycled at the end of life.
>Many countries use coal power plants. Basically transferring fossil fuels to electricity instead of just burning fossil fuels in the first place. Energy being lost with the conversion.
Norway uses hydropower for 99% of their energy generation, and have no coal plants.
>Nuclear power plants are spooky.
Only if you're retarded.
>No decent electric truck options available yet
Should have got one of those Ford Ranger EVs when you had the chance.
>>15206252
It's HFO or Bunker-C for Yanks, not crude oil.
And no, eight 80MW units will not emit the same oxides of nitrous or carbon dioxide than the millions of small high speed automotive engines operated daily with specific output far exceeding 640MW.
A large vessel at cruise will consume between 160 and 200g/KWh so a safe assumption would be around 200 to 250 tonnes of HFO per day. Considering the emissions of HFO are similar to DFO with higher levels of particulate, sulphate and ash one could say the overall emission output of 250t HFO is roughly equivalent to 250t to 300t of DFO.
That's roughly equivalent to six or eight tanker loads to a servo. Even my small home town of 22,000 consumes this amount from one wholesaler alone per day. So the daily consumption of eight small towns equals your 'largest eight ships in the world,' so that's a load of crap.
Further, how can you make any assumption on the specific output of emissions of low speed marine diesel when you wouldn't know how many cycles the engine is, let alone whether the charge air is kept at a particular temperature to lower the formation of NOx or if the unit uses SCR or wet scrubbers.
TL;DR No, the output of hundreds of millions of small, inefficient petrol and diesel engines far outweigh the 2.2% contribution to global CO2 emissions from the shipping industry.
Where do you get this stuff? Do you usually accept horseshit as fact and repeat it so?
>2016
>not wanting ICE cars to become a niche hobby
its like you actually enjoy the plebs
fuck greenpeace and all these ecofascist, fuck emisions , true car enthusiasts will polute as much as they can. And yes, my catalytic converters were removed and my car drains so much gas equivalently to some kind of bus which can hold up to 100 passangers.
gonna change oil tommorow and guess where will old oil end ? you are right, somewhere in the nature
fuck this gay earth
>>15206627
nice edge kid
>>15206627
kys
>>15206563
>where it doesn't hurt anyone
Wind exists broham
>>15206627
>not saving the oil and using it for firepits at minimum
fag
>>15206552
cruise ships are the biggest meme holiday for bottom feeder plebs
Whatever, my car uses LPG and I love it, so who gives a shit
Dunno if any of you weebs watched / read Dimension W but it's scarily similar to themes in the show.
No fun allowed.
>>15206692
you know, you can buy coal at every petrol station at any given time ? Only jewish intentions lead you to not waste every possible source of anything
>>15206641
>lifted truck
must be a cuck
>>15206563
>>15206588
>>15206722
shills detected
>>15206498
But nothing would happen
>>15205478
>http://electrek.co
seems legit
>>15206736
Why would I buy coal when I can add old car oil to a fire pit to get it raging hot for a few minutes? Or soak logs in a giant bucket of it alternatively?
>>15206781
maybe if you need to use your firepit every fucking day you wont, but im using mine, like twice per year, so occasionally buying coal is better, than storing so many shit "just in case"
>>15206786
>many
much*
:^)
>>15206498
I fucking hated that shit
>Take cover behind car
>Pop up to fire back only to have the shitty vehicle blow me to smithereens
>>15205478
>Norway
They don't matter.
>ban on new gasoline-powered car sales
Not going to happen.
>as soon as 2025
Definitely not going to happen.
>>15206734
it was good desu, coils when??
>>15206862
thanks for ure opinion
>>15206876
I'm sure Tesla already has the technology
Elon is defo from Dimension W
>>15205478
I honestly think Australia will go the way of mad max before that ever happens.
>file name
>>15207150
moving to straya if so
>massive V8s, only headers, roaming through the outback on the verge of blowing the heads 24/7
>chucking thunderpoons at Russians in cars covered in spikes
Fucken glorious
>>15205478
Huh, of all yuropoor countries, I figured Sweden would be the first to do that since they're so fuggin cugged :DDDDD
>>15206786
>>15206836
Mine gets used once every 2 weeks or so.
Norway sucks
>>15205488
>Do you think the consumers realize he only exists because of government subsidies?
>what /o/ actually believes
Tesla repaid it's 2010 DOE loan in 2013. Now the only money it gets from the government is ZEV credits which it sells to Toyota for 2.8% of it's revenue, and the $7,500 tax credit that any of the automakers could be getting, if they didn't stink so bad.
>>15206499
>thinking every nuclear reactor is chernobyl
>>15206552
Ships that large should be nuclear powered. Aircraft carriers and submarines are, so why not big container and cruise ships?
>>15206641
> Howtoattractnegativeattentiontocars.jpg
>>15208587
there isn't a group of armed men to protect them, like you know, military ships
>>15206499
>people this stupid are what keep us from nuclear power
>>15205478
>implying that the world gives a fuck
We are 5 million people, and we already top the charts when it comes to EV-purchases per capita by far. People here also, on a general basis, drive quite old cars compared to the rest of the developed world due to high taxation on new cars.
We sit ontop of our mountains, pointing at how bad the world is while feeling good about ourselves, thinking that we somehow actually matter at all in the world as a whole
>>15206563
>>15206588
Thanks for actually taking the time to give me these answers. I didn't think too much my post, but i'm glad I learned from my autism.
>>15206550
>more than 1/3
>>15209439
No worries, I'm glad it may have helped you. Apologies for coming across a bit harsh, it has been a long swing at sea.
>>15211105
>>15209439
Actually going back over I have come across very harsh. Sorry mate, I should not have chewed you out straight away as I did.
>>15205478
Was there a corner in the factory?
just gonna go back out to the garage and work on those old two strokes i've been hoarding
>>15207826
cheeki breeki my frænd
>>15205478
>Norway
literally who
Also why the fuck are these law makers restricting the usage of petrol cars when they are a small fraction of greenhouse gas production.
>Let's restrict the usage of cars for our people but China and the rest of the third world can keep pumping out never ending pollution
>>15206627
>>15206641
edgelords spotted
>>15206736
>not wanting the lifeblood of your car to keep you warm when you're out camping
When did normies get so obnoxious
>>15205529
good, Saudi Arabia and the rest of the muslim welfare states can fuck right off. They should have been investing in other area's of their economy when carter was president. but no, dem petrol dollars
>>15214833
Easy and effective way to control the people.
>>15208807
Nordic trip speaks the hard truth
>still makes tons of money off of North Sea oil
>still not doing anything about whaling
>but they draw the line at this.
Fucking hypocrites.
