RIP Muhammad Ali
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>>15204008
>>15204008
>trash engine general
Fuck that draft dodging Muslim bitch
>>15204024
>4 cylinders
>still needs 4 cams for DOHC
12 cylinders for a man that could go 12 rounds.
RIP in peace, Muhammad.
>>15204045
Show mercy nigga lmao!
>>15204054
Stupid question but is that a bad thing or how (should) it be?
>>15204056
12 rounds huh? Kek have fun in hell Clay
>>15204045
nah fuck you you disrespectful subhuman trash
>>15204008
>>15204056
you only need to go 12 rounds when youre too much of a pussy to knock your opponent out in the first.
fuck ali.
tyson is king.
Look out, subarufags.
Superior German engineering coming through.
>>15204091
tyson was a great fighter for a while, but probably top 50 material if you're being objective about it.
>>15204088
Yeaaaaa nah fuck Cassius Clay. He was just another loudmouth baboon but when shit got real in Vietnam he tucked his tail between his legs and said some "m-m-muh dick" fake bravado shit and dodged the war. He deserved parkinsons, hopefully his death was painful, and he's for sure Bruning in hell for being a Muslim heretic
>>15204070
Adding more cams adds more moving parts which means more potential for failure, makes a larger footprint and adds weight.
For comparison, an inline 4 DOHC engine (typical for most 4 cylinders) only needs two cams to function exactly the same way besides having a higher center of gravity.
>>15204125
>Superior
>German engineering
Weak bait
>>15204144
Literally retarded
>>15204136
He was against intetracial shit prerty
BASED
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>>15204136
you sound like an appalling hate filled person
>>15204045
I Don't give a shit about him converting to Islam but using religion to dodge the draft is what makes him a coward imo. And the relentless verbal diarrhea didnt help.
>>15204371
Well fighting someone in a closed ring where people will stop it if it gets out of hand is different than a war. He may have been confident in the ring but war doesn't have those options.
>>15204358
>appalling hate filled person
So.. hes pretty much a normal /o/ user.
>be cuckhammed Ali
>die
>>15204437
It's interracial if a Dominican screws a puertorican. What do you think?
>>15204136
>>15204371
Vietnam was an illegal shitshow justified by lies. It destroyed a lot of good men who didn't have the clarity of conscience to refuse to participate, and that is a tragedy. Ali saw that particular war for what it was and took a clear stand. One doesn't go to war to prove oneself brave. One does what needs doing, and perhaps in that will be shown courageous. Vietnam did not need doing.
>>15204754
Yeah I think he'd be classed as one of the ~200k conscientious objectors, certainly the most high profile, rather than the 15m or so "draft dodgers" or people who got deferments.
Obviously some people will confuse the two distinct categories.
>>15204754
Also, Ali didn't dodge shit. He went to court and played by the letter of the law. Every Christian man in America could have done the same, but shame and propaganda are powerful things.
>>15204777
They were all draft dodging faggots. Fuck that shit, their country called and they said fuck you but continued to reap the benefits of being an American without paying any dues. Their were 1stil gen immigrants dying in the jungle trying to earn their papers while Mr special snowflake nig "muh Islam" just had to cause a scandal because that's what dindus do.
>>15204320
>calls something b8
>posts actual b8
>>15204821
>I'm too stupid to figure out the difference between different things so I'll pretend it's all the same to avoid the effort
>>15204876
>I've never done anything bigger than myself
>>15204821
“I ain’t got nothing against them Vietcong.”
Most of America should have felt the same, and we did near the end
>>15204136
Maybe you can get an autograph when you meet him down there faggot
>>15204880
>>15204821
Nobody needed the Vietnam War, mouth breather. It was part of a dumb strategy that killed Americans to prop up a failed experiment across the globe. This isn't just hindsight, either. Lots of people saw it this way at the time. America is only weaker for the war having happened, and every man who kept himself from it has preserved something of value, while every life lost was wasted, as simple as that. There are wars where a nation needs to fight, and lives lost are lives well-used, but not that one.
>>15204330
The boxer 4 really is, isn't it?
>>15204913
#Bernie2016
>>15205005
>flat 4 camshafts
>not being shorter than inline 4 camshafts
you are literally a dumb nigger
>>15205129
What does the length of the cams have to do with how many moving parts there are? Has there ever been a single I4 car in history that had issues due to the cam being too long?
>>15205155
weight, dumb tripcuck
>>15204144
>boxers are the only engines to have four cams
>what is a V configuration
>>15205165
You have it figured out, having twice as many chains, guides, pulleys, head gaskets, cam cover gaskets, and bearings is mostly irrelevant because 4 boxer cams only weigh marginally more than 2 I4 DOHC cams. Those parts almost never wear and fail so having twice as many isn't worth mentioning.
>>15205155
Sure. if you make the cam too long it'll stick outside of the engine. Dirt will get on it.
>>15205275
>twice as many chains
true
>guides
true
>pulleys
wat
>headgasket
lol this dumb faggot
>cam cover gaskets, again, they are shorter than an inline 4
>4 boxer cams only weigh marginally more than 2 I4 DOHC cams.
http://www.flatironstuning.com/p-3000-gsc-billet-s1-camshafts-04-07-sti-06-14-wrx-ej2557-with-intake-avcs.aspx
>set of 4 subaru camshafts
>19lbs
http://www.amazon.com/Kelford-Cams-Honda-i-VTEC-Camshaft/dp/B0094H7SR8
>2 honda k20 camshafts
>20lbs
lets not forget the fact that a flat 4 crank is way smaller and lighter than an inline 4 crank
why am I even arguing with a retarded tripcuck anyway?
>>15204032
is that a b12?
>>15205388
here
http://www.zrp-rods.com/shop/honda-k20-billet-crankshaft/
>k20 billet crank
>16.8 kgs
http://www.zrp-rods.com/shop/subaru-ej20-billet-crankshaft/
>ej20 billet crank
>8 kgs
thats 37lbs and 17lbs respectively, in case you don't understand kilograms
>>15205388
You don't know what a cam pulley is, you don't understand that nobody is talking about/bringing up weight except for you and is talking about points of failure (hmmm I wonder if there are any boxers out there known for headgasket failure), and I'm the retard? Have you ever worked on a car in your life? I can tell you are less than 20 years old so I guarantee if you have you would have taken a picture of you doing it, why don't you post a pic with a cam cover off your car.
>>15205418
Just what the fuck is a cam pulley doing on an engine equipped with a timing chain?
Unless you mean a SPROCKET.
>>15205418
a cam pulley is called a cam pulley, a pulley is a pulley used to drive the engien accesories
>nobody is talking about/bringing up weight except for you
literally not my problem you cucks are just memeing about >muh headgasket maymay and don't want to discuss factual statements
>I wonder if there are any boxers out there known for headgasket failure
literally irrelevant, considering porsche flat 6s are know for being one of the most reliable engine,
http://www.thesmokingtire.com/2011/911-most-reliable-car-of-the-2000s/
lets not forget the fact that aircooled VW flat 4's are bulletproof
>I'm the retard?
yup
>Have you ever worked on a car in your life?
> I can tell you are less than 20 years old
> you have you would have taken a picture of you doing it, why don't you post a pic with a cam cover off your car.
lol, tripcuck got mad as fuck he got outed as a retard and started with the personal attacks, typical cuck move
im sorry you are a dumbass
>>15205129
>what are additional gears/pulleys, seals, guides, bearings and material for housing, Alex?
>>15205444
i don't understand how that is relevant in any way, it is true that a flat 4 valvetrain is slightly heavier than an inline 4, but a flat 4 crank is lighter so it evens out
>>15205171
>>15204054
>>4 cylinders
>>still needs 4 cams for DOHC
Follow the replies, faggot.
>>15205441
>>15205416
>>15205428
tripfag absolutely BTFO
>>15205428
>>15205441
>uhhh uhhh if I'm pedantic enough about semantics it will hide the fact I've never touched an engine in my life much less pulled one apart and timed one
> and started with the personal attacks
Let's review
>>15204144
Clear, concise and true post
>>15204330
personal attack
>>15205005
pepe post
>>15205129
brings up something irrelevant and uninformed, and a personal attack
>>15205155
clear, concise, and true post
>>15205165
vague, unintelligent, personal attack
>>15205275
sarcastic, clear, and true post
Why do people like you post about things on the internet they don't understand? It's one of the great mysteries of the internet to me, do you not understand that people who actually do know what they are talking about can immediately identify that you don't?
>>15205456
>samefagging this hard
For what purpose?
>>15205418
We'll all wait for you to post a picture of you doing anything worth while on your nova, Mr. bum breaker.
>>15205482
>pulled one apart and timed one
so that's your claim to fame? You pulled the timing cover and timed the camshaft? Well I'm so sorry I didn't mean to insult you. You must be an engine master.
>>15205482
literally tl;dr
arguing about extra parts is irrelevant considering the extra weight doesn't matter as i have shown
flat engines are not unreliable, not every flat engine is a subaru EJ
GG no re tripcuck, stay mad you got outed as a retard
>>15205482
unlike you, I don't feel the need to have a trip on a board that most people post anonymously on. Nor do I seek any sort of validation from internet strangers. I also don't act like a know it all cock slap because there will always be someone out there smarter than me. Pro tip: it's not you.
Stay humble, faggot.
>>15205110
>not wanting to engage in a particular war means you want to elect a socialist SJW crank
whatever
>>15205505
I work on cars for a living, not that it's a claim to fame, but I have learned through many years of experience one really hard to grasp and little known fact: when there are two of something there are more likely to be problems than if there is one
>>15205528
>arguing about extra parts is irrelevant
Sure, parts departments may as well not even stock those parts, seeing as they know 993 engines are reliable, that means across all brands a certain engine type is reliable as another
>>15205542
Damn, you should trip though with those chops, I've never even seen anyone do a timing job on a boxer by taking out the planetary gear inside a trans, that's some next level mechanicing
>>15205570
>not wanting to stop communism
Mrs fonda are you lost?
>>15205578
You work on cars for a living and have only ever gone as deep into an engine as timing the camshaft? Wait, lemme guess, you work at a walmart tire lube express? I'm guessing the timing thing was on your own car, huh?
>planetary gear inside a trans
HAHAHAHA
Those are the clutch packs, you fucking retard. The gear set is still INSIDE THE FUCKING TRANSMISSION.
>>15205418
>I guarantee if you have you would have taken a picture of you doing it, why don't you post a pic with a cam cover off your car.
Bitch where did you say anything about posting that specific engine? Who the fuck in this thread even has one? Why don't you post a picture of YOU doing it?
The density of your skull, holy shit. Is that thing bullet proof?
>>15205644
Damn, how did you figure it out? Oh well, it was a step up from greeter
>>15205685
Not even trying to dig yourself out of that cozy little hole you dug yourself, are you?
>>15205578
>parts departments may as well not even stock those parts, seeing as they know 993 engines are reliable, that means across all brands a certain engine type is reliable as another
what the fuck did the tripcuck mean by this
>>15205589
>we have to stop communism in vietnam!
>laos, cambodia and vietnam end up as commie shitholes
good job
>>15205702
What hole? Does it have do with the poster calling a planetary ring a clutch pack, or the one that just says "tripfag btfo" over and over?
>>15205739
>What hole? Does it have do with the poster calling a planetary ring a clutch pack, or the one that just says "tripfag btfo" over and over?
Ever play those 'spot the differences' games on the backs of cereal boxes as a kid? You may want to take a close look at what you're calling a planetary gear set in >>15205542
>>15205768
*ahem*
>>15205783
Technically, he might be kind of half-assedly correct on one count, as the thing on the left in
>>15205542
does techically interact with the planets in one way or another.
The other two, not so much.
>>15205832
but that's equivalent to stating a driveshaft is the same thing as a transmission, as the transmission interacts with the driveshaft in one way or another.
Mr. bumbreaker doesn't know what the fuck he's on about.
>>15204088
Where do you think you are? Plebbit?
>>15204821
Why would you willingly fight a pointless war? That's almost as stupid as fighting in the middle east
unless you fought in WW2 you dont get any respect from me if you served in the US armed forces, if you willingly went to fight after that I can only pity you
Ali was a boss nigga
>>15205589
It was a bad plan. The CIA flubbed the initial political assessment and action, which set the whole war to fail as soon as US ground troops showed up in appreciable numbers. Vietnam was also doomed to poverty from the get-go for economic reasons and so whoever won was going to have a shithole on their hands making them look bad.
We killed a shitload of people fighting over a liability.
>>15206127
Implying anyone gives a fuck about some fat neckbeards "muh respect" any ways. Tyson would've raped clay and made him convert to Mormonism. In fact clay would've probably Tyson dodged up to Canada like the faggot that he was
>>15206127
Like any veteran wants respect from some 20 year old fat as who spends all day on 4chan
>supported Castro
>supported Marxism
>was Muslim
wew lad
>>15204045
>>15204371
>>15204777
>>15204821
>draft dodgers
I believe in the conscientious objector. When it comes down to it, you don't want to be working with someone who doesn't want to be there in the first place. People like that become despicable assholes and are disruptive to unit cohesion. God forbid if you are in a life-or-death situation with them, they're probably not going to have you and your buddies' backs and let your asses die in some ditch why they turn tail in the face of the enemy. The military is already full of jaded and bitter people who willfully volunteered no need to compound that with people that never wanted to be in the military. It's not good for anyone and the situation is better without them honestly.
>>15204821
so why aren't you out in the middle east right now, fighting for SheckelCorp's oil reserves?
Fucking /pol/ needs to get out of this thread.
>>15207183
Damn they look good in white.
>just like people, suck my /pol/ faggot
>>15204081
Shit would have infinity redline if it wasn't for pushrods
>>15205589
>stopping communism when communism will always stop itself
Americans sure are fucking stupid
>>15207068
We did and they were set on fire.
Then the world came together to put out those fires.
Your anti-war hate speech has no effect on me, communist.
Jeesus.
Here I thought it was gonna be a thread I wanted to read.
Well, bought this for 900 this weekend.
Hate working on it less than I thought i would
>>15207228
>he thinks Vietnam wasn't a giant experiment to see how effective the helicopter was to warfare
Regardless, I work with war-age Vietnamese people, total bruvs except for two who are both lazy cunts.
>>15204045
>implying fighting in Vietnam was heroic or honourable at all
>>15207252
>telling that to the men who did their duty
The edge can't get any more real.
People who didn't want to go went and died because their country axed them to and shitskins like MA and fondle sit on a high horse.
>>15207261
>did their duty
I don't remember Vietnam invading the US...
>>15207264
You wouldn't remember shit because you're of less than legal age my nigga.
>>15207266
Lel. Don't assume shit, friend.
>>15207271
I don't need to assume anything.
I know how old you are because i can smell your teen angst.
Regardless of how the war started we fought to protect people that couldn't defend themselves.
Libcunts, probably like you, prevented victory though, we were within four miles of NVA HQ in Cambodia when Nixon had to order it to stop because muh peace, love faggotry
>>15207283
>couldn't defend themselves
Pretty much the entire population wanted communist rule and hated the corrupt puppet government you Americunts forced on the south. Educate yourself.
Also
>not liberal
>>15207288
>Pretty much the entire population wanted communist rule
No they didn't.
>hated the corrupt puppet government you Americunts forced on the south
We didn't do shit.
At the end of World War Two Britland refused responsibility for the south and gave it to the French who were hated by all Southeast Asians. The French couldn't deal and the US assumed responsibility.
Educate yourself.
God damn /o/ is a shithole
>>15207295
Explain why the entire population was against you, then. Almost everyone supported the Viet Cong. They all hated the US.
And yes, you installed a government on the South. It was corrupt and useless and no one wanted it.
Do they even teach history in your country?
>>15207305
The whole of 4Chan is a shithole.
>>15207312
>Explain why the entire population was against you
They weren't. Keep listening to the narrative about the Evil US though.
A favorite tactic by NVA (vietcong was wiped out after Tet, to be replaced b y NVA troops) was take a shot from a village at US troops, the troops would return fire and accidentally a village. This kept rural Vietnamese suspicious about the US.
>Almost everyone supported the Viet Cong
Yeah no, Viet Cong literally committed terrorism. Rural Vietnamese were too scared to point fingers (much like Afghans during the Afghanistan war)
>They all hated the US.
We literally pushed equipment off boats trying to fit enough refugees onboard while NVA tanks were crashing down the gates in Saigon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_Vietnam#Post_Vietnam_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Saigon#Evacuation
>And yes, you installed a government on the South
Lol no we didn't. It was created by the French
The State of Vietnam was created through co-operation between anti-communist Vietnamese and the French government on 14 June 1949.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Vietnam#Founding_of_Vietnam
> It was corrupt and useless
Nobody is denying that.
>Do they even teach history in your country?
They don't teach anti-America rhetoric that's for true.
>>15207350
>Lol no we didn't. It was created by the French
The French fucked off long before you arrived and you supported the shitshow govt. they left behind.
>>15207529
>The French fucked off long before you arrived and you supported the shitshow govt. they left behind.
No shit
>>15206332
>>15206340
butthurt "veterans" detected
glorified hoods killing innocent people in the middle east for the gubment
you psychos are disgusting
>>15207547
You gave them arms, advisers, your troops' lives. You set them up, therefore you were responsible for them. You can't blame it on the French. You stuck your own people in there, instead of letting it die.
>>15207573
>You set them up, therefore you were responsible for them
Quote me where i said the US wasn't.
>You can't blame it on the French
The South Vietnamese government was created before the US even showed up to the party. The situation mirrored Korea. Read a fucking book.
>>15204090
Doesn't it have a 180° V12?
>>15207624
Yeah, but its engine has the same architecture used in the 512 BB.
But to be honest there's no real distinguishable feature between flat and boxer besides the number of crankpins.
![1323131729001[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hWRvRhh.png "1323131729001[1].png")
>>15207350
>america a gud boi, he dindu nuffin!
>facts are anti-american
top kek americlaps
>>15207708
>there's no real distinguishable feature between flat and boxer besides the number of crankpins.
>>15208580
but the only difference between those 2 cranks are the number of crankpins
>>15208596
>and the firing order
>and balance
>>15208580
Is there something else going on in that pic other than the number of crankpins?
>>15208641
but thats the result of the number of crankpins
>>15208659
and camshafts and distributor etc
>>15208641
>>and the firing order
>>and balance
...Which are all determined because of the crankpin arrangement.
A flat-plane V8 has a different balance and firing order than a cross-plane, but it's still a V8.
>>15207708
>>15208596
>>15208649
>>15208659
>>15208670
>the only difference is the crankpins
>contrary evidence
>well those differences are only because of the crankpins!
>>15208717
>well those differences are only because of the crankpins!
Pretty much.
Not sure what you are trying to argue here.
>>15208717
>the only difference between a v6 and a v8 are the number of cylinders
>b-but the v6 has a different firing order!!!
this is how stupid you are
>>15208509
>can't argue
>just whines
Britcuck confirmed.
Shitty iPhone
>>15208818
>this triggered
you are actually fucking dumb if you belive only 1 guy is making fun of your aspergers
