Why is Porsche so ridiculously based?
Ferrari is just loud shit. The P1 is absolutely fantastic but to be able to beat the Porsche (by the tiniest bit) they have to put it into racing mode which is not street legal!
Note that all these cars were on the same kind of tires and driven on the same day by the same driver.
It is just incredibly how good Porsche engineers are! The 918 is the heaviest out of the three and the most "tricked" out and without a doubt the most comfortable and DD-able but still can't be beaten except if you apply non-street-legal methods. Amazing!
>Ferrari is just loud shit.
I have to take that back a bit btw. The V12 sound is just pure porn! The P1 does look the best. I love all three of these but the Porsche blows my mind!
>>15193412
>they have to put it into racing mode which is not street legal!
When was street racing ever legal?
>>15193453
>>15193412
t. porsche shills
>>15193958
>shilling
>for a 918
>on /o/
What?
>>15193970
>for a 918
for porsche retard
>>15193412
>Production car
>Not Street legal
Choose one and only one
>>15193412
Really shill-y, plus you don't drive one so you're opinion is invalid, and you are silly.
>>15193412
These numbers are such a small margin that wind speed could've changed the results.
If this was scientific, it'd be inconclusive.
That said, I think the P1 is the best anyway
What track was it?
>>15193996
Portimao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3YPTkBRaOk
>>15193412
>Why is Porsche so ridiculously based?
They make the closest thing to a race car for the street, what other car can you take bone stock and abuse on a racetrack like a Porsche. Other than the 918 they seem to be neuter everything else for the 911's sake for nothing other than 'muh heritiage'.
The Cayman GT4 is an amazing car but Porsche limiting power so the 911 isn't BTFO is bullshit.
>>15193412
>they have to put it into racing mode which is not street legal!
It's not illegal. It just lowers it to a height which would be too low to sell as a production vehicle in the UK.
>>15193412
>Camaro SS performs just as good at a 10th of the price
Why are euro cars so shitty?
>>15195812
kekked
>>15195573
not sure it's about uk rules specifically, it's to meet worldwide type approval
>>15195573
I think it just means "Undriveable anywhere outside perfectly flat runways"
>>15195254
A factory Cayman making 911 Turbo power wouldn't be (relatively) cheap though. It doesn't make sense for them to build competitors to their own cars when the current high-end line is the brand name. Adding power while maintaining usability and reliability costs money in places we don't think about.
>>15195812
(You)
>>15193412
P1 used racing slicks, and that's what is illegal.
Not the racing mode.
For fucks sake. Get your facts straight if you want to troll/bash.
>>15195978
IIRC in that video the ferrari and mclaren were on the same tyres and the porsche was on a slightly more aggressive one.
Maybe mis-remembering that though.
>>15195988
Then pay attention to what he says at the end.
P1 is just slightly faster WHEN using slicks. With regular tires theres no gap.
>>15195944
>>15195974
And how am I wrong/trolling?
>>15195998
oh okay i'll take your word for it, can't watch now
>>15196017
please don't turn this into one of (those) threads.
>>15195998
just watched it, you're wrong lol
>>15196079
No i am not.
I watched some other video that had all three
rear tires keep trying to fall of the p1
Ferrari was flailing about a bit
and the 918 kept flying into the air
what I find interesting is how close the times are despite somewhat divergent of approach
when its less than a second a lap what does it matter
a single mistake by the driver will fuck that no matter the car
>Fiat La Fiat
no wonder they wouldn't let people test it
>>15195988
No, Harris explains in the beginning how he just presented the manufacturers with the same tires provided by Pirelli. The times were all set on the same tire model. It's only later they put the P1 back on the Trofeos and it's only then when it can really slash the time of the other two cars.
Interesting additional information: Porsche hasn't once been the one bitching and moaning about the specifics of tests like these. It has always been Ferrari and McLaren
>>15196017
>>15196183
>when its less than a second a lap what does it matter
You're new to racing, aren't you.
I agree with OP, the 918 is the most impressive piece of engineering. It's by far the cheapest out of the three, it's got the best equipment (you can even remove the roof), best range in electric mode (I know, who cares but it's still a hybrid) and it's the fastest around corners. The P1 looks like pure sex but overall the Porsche is just the masterpiece and the only reason to buy the LaFerrari is the name.
>>15193412
>they got the biggest company
>they got the most money
>they have shitloads of applicants and can freely choose from the very best
they are also a bunch of self-loving jerks who manufacture nothing by themselves.
>>15196258
They also have blonde cuties with big tits installing your steering wheels you know
>>15193412
Nice opinion, but those "laptimes" are conjecture at best.
To establish a comparative performance paradigm, calculate peak torque then divide by vehicle weight. Otherwise you're just measuring surface conditions, barometric pressure, atmospheric pressure, human error, etc
>>15196362
reminder
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/31/watch-a-modified-ford-gt-go-283-mph-in-a-standing-mile/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H43_lkBkGkg
>>15193980
Hey retard, the p1 has a setting called track mode which makes it unsuitable for daily driving. Actually ILLEGAL. Yet when they post numbers its while on this setting
>>15196362
>look mom, buzzwerds
>>15196240
>You're new to racing, aren't you.
not really I'm just getting cynical and jaded
how many laps does a pass take if your only gaining .25 a second each time
some mechanical failure or human error will get in the way first
I agree about the porsche being impressive and comfy
but its a little boring and I don't much like its look
what I mean is that 959 and carrera gt porsche gt1 at lest have a bit more presence
the slightly ugly and chaotic handling cars like the Ferrari or p1 are more appealing than what might be the obvious winner in the 918
normally I'm all about minimum effort maximum result I've only headed towards this other thought more recently as it is my antithesis
>>15196429
I don't understand. So the car is capable of beating the others without doing any modifications, only hitting a few buttons while inside the car, but it doesn't count? What about this mode makes it non streetable?
>>15196362
Cars also have to turn, brake, and accelerate while turning.
Cars are also driven by people. If a car can perform very well around corners while being very hard to control, even for an advanced AI, it's not the best car ever made by a long shot.
>>15196429
Illegal why? Emissions?
>>15194425
w-where's lambo?
>>15196515
race mode is illegal because the height of the car drops, and the height of the lights are below the minimum height demanded by law,
> in conclusion it's illegal because it doesn't the height enough to run over a person, being so low causes more damage to a person
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>>15196515
>turning.
lol
>>15195998
Watch the video again, the P1 is slightly faster with the same tires, but wrecks everyone with the Performance tires that can be bought with the car
>>15196605
Wrong.
You should watch the video again.
>>15196600
So it's "illegal", but nobody will actually care or notice if you do it. Cops don't get out the measuring tape if you're nice.
Cops = law, cops don't care = not illegal
Also the minimum height varies by state and jurisdiction so there's a good chance that there is no possibility of cops giving a shit
>>15196515
ride height is too low, it's a track mode after all, and they were on a track, so raod legality has nothing to do with it. It's not McLaren's fault that the other two don't have a track mode like that
>>15196654
yep you can drive with race mode active, but beware of potholes and speed bumps, that will fuck the carbon fiber underbody
>>15196664
So
>beware of driving a car that is faster around a flat track
>they make compromises you can only make on flat racetracks
wait what do you mean the question of "which car is faster" depends on driving conditions
>>15196492
It lowers it considerably, increases aero, etc. Mostly the lower part, it basically becomes a racecar
>>15196572
Aventador is not up to par and Veneno's a joke
>all these assmad porsche fangirls
>>15196600
The race mode is not illegal.
Manufacturers aren't allowed to sell a car that is as low at the McLaren is in its race mode. McLaren circumvents this by having a system that can raise the ride height for normal driving conditions or lower it for the track. It's really no different than if somebody bought new VW and then slammed it into the ground.
>>15193927
And they're measuring lap times. On a track. Racing mode. Not street legal.
Dammit OP, u dun goofed.
Why no 918 track model?
>>15193412
2 tenths is nothing bro. a good consistent 5 lap group would all be within 3 tenths of each other.
the mclaren on the other hand is obviously faster. 5 tenths is more than consistency.
>>15198034
> 5 tenths
> something worth talking about
lel
Different drivers and who knows, shit might be inverted.
