Why do manuals have to die?
Why aren't there more people into driving cars?
In the old world it's 95% manuals, so i have no idea what you are talking about.
the old world also figured out to put turn lanes everywhere that makes sense, in the new world there's still places where even one car making a left can cause congestion and manuals and congestion don't make for enjoyable driving
>>15107763
People are getting into the "Luxury" part of it these days. Nothing luxury about driving a manual. I'm sure back in the day people like you were bitching "Why do horses have to die? Why aren't there more people into riding horses?"
Progress.
>>15107792
Also, while I love manual and they're fun, I'd much rather drive an automatic for 6+ hours than a manual. It gets to be annoying after a point.
>>15107798
>6+ hour drive
>probably only highway
>only in top gear, don't have to shift
I don't see the problem.
>>15107808
You're missing the point
>only outdated garbage is driving
shit mem
>>15107798
why?
>>15107763
If you'cant cope with driving a stick then there is another test for morons or the disabled ( not necessarily the same group) where they get to try for an auto licence which limits you to auto.
OT put a Collie Dog in a touring car with that setup.
Dunno what you're tripping about.
Even porsche is coming back to manual.
>>15107763
Manuals are making a comeback with the millennial generation. I'm 22, most of my friends can drive a stick. Hence why car manufacturers are producing so many boy racer models that only come with a manual option.
>>15107834
I went there, I have to do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWAK0J8Uhzk
Sorry.
>>15107860
shitboxes have always been manual
>>15107864
>mfw every shitbox you're thinking of is still much faster than your car
>>15107763
people, especially americans, don't like learning how to drive.
just look at big car culture in north america.
>It's just safer if you wreck
>people respect your space
all code for
>even though I'm on the road I shouldn't be because I don't want to put effort into this thing I'm doing every day
Cars are getting harder and harder to get into and it's gradually just becoming more of a necessity rather than a pastime or hobby. Plus driving manual is harder for something the average joe perceives as non-beneficial compared to automatic.
Also anyone can drive automatic which means more sales. There are a shitload of ditzy soccermoms and babyboomers who barely have the hand eye coordination to drive, let alone drive manual.
>>15107876
nice irrelevant shitpost
manualfags are cancer
>>15107876
O really please tell me how they are quicker than my car
>>15107891
Nice irrelevant butthurt post.
>comes into manual thread
>>15107864
>shitposts
>>15107891
>manual fags are cancer
(spoiler) you are the cancer (spoiler/)
>>15107903
I havent shitposted
stop getting mad and projecting you child
>>15107855
Oh yay a one-off $180,000 manual car, the comeback will be huge.
>>15107819
He's really not. I drive my manual on my 3 hour drive home each weekend and it's great. I drive an auto to work during the week.
>>15107895
HAHAHA
>he thinks his old GT lolcantturn machine is fast
>>15107916
It's a 13. It turns just fine. Matter a fact it's as fast as a M3 of the same yr around the track.
>>15107916
>Implying it won't demolish 99% of cars on the road in terms of sheer acceleration
>Can't turn meme
>>15107916
who is this perfect angel
>>15107950
>in terms of sheer acceleration
Because they can't turn.
>>15107970
I found it years ago in a hot mugshot thread
>>15108010
Would marry 64-65.
>>15108004
im in love
>>15108004
Can't turn huh watch this motortrend test.
https://youtu.be/uOwSPccbzl4
>>15108010
conjugal roll
>>15108010
rolling
>>15108169
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>15108010
rawl
They're not dying just very limited because nobody buys them.
>>15107763
>Why do manuals have to die?
It's the fault of the end user. Paddle shifters are ultimately controlled by a computer, which makes them much harder to damage by being an idiot, which leads to fewer warranty claims.
Electric cars are going to be taking over. Probably what would be taking over are those paddle shifter on the steering wheel
>>15107798
>Drove Non stop no breaks 10hours a day 5-6 days a week and then lucked up friends and drove more while high
>never ever got tired of clutch in change gear
>drove in San Francisco the entire time
I really don't think u fags actually like driving stick I think u just like saying u do when ur car goes fast
>haha u cant drive manual??
>you arent a true car guy!! Fucking LOSER POSER
I think manuals are making a comeback. More and more I hear young people talk about manual transmissions and wanting to drive stick.
I don't know if it's because of hipsterism or not though.
>>15107911
Oh, were you in the market for a 911 Turbo S or GT3 RS but decided against it because you couldn't get a stick shift? I bet you can't even afford a manual boxster.
>>15107939
Turn right into crowds of bysanders.
Because technology advanced, automatics started becoming cheap and reliable to produce, and computers shift faster than humans.
Do I find manuals fun? Yes. Will I keep driving manuals until they die? Yes. Will I be upset if they're all replaced by faster DCTs and CVTs? No.
>>15108010
rolling for a brown qt
>>15108010
roll
>>15108010
>Soul reaping
Lol! Didn't know that was a thing and a crime.
>>15107763
fuel economy
autos come with 6+ speeds now, and are always shifting with economy in mind.
so basically it's obamas fault
>>15108010
>Illegal Twerk
Sentenced 18 to life
>>15107798
>It gets to be annoying after a point.
I don't actually think about it any more
You guys get all autistic and benchracey when a car goes around a track a second slower than it's competitor, yet you're all obsessed with having a slower transmission. I thought you guys were all about the lap times?
>>15109871
/o/ is all about the shitposting
>>15109871
Technically if you trained someone from infancy daily in muscle memory and training exercises they could shift a manual more efficiently than an automatic if the shifts were connected to muscle reflexes instead of a stick.
>>15109890
One acronym: DCT.
>>15107763
I wish I could buy another manual but the next truck I want was only offered as an auto.
I've never cared for stick shift cars. They just aren't my thing.
I've driven a few manuals in the past and I don't like how long it takes to engage the gear and get moving. I like to zip around and move when I want to move.
With manual you have to re-engage 1st gear every time you stop. And that probably takes me a good 3-5 seconds. With auto you just step on it and you're gone.
You can also tell when you're behind somebody with a manual car because in the time it takes them to engage the gear and start accelerating, everybody in front of them is already gone. And every time you want to upshift you have to let off the gas, clutch in, shift, and re-engage the next gear, causing you to slow down and possibly disrupt traffic behind you. Not to mention trying to start on hills and whatnot.
Manuals just seem so antiquated in my opinion. They feel slower and less responsive compared to modern-day automatics. I don't really understand the fascination behind them, automatics take only a fraction of a second to upshift whereas a manual takes like 2-4 seconds to upshift (depending on experience or skill level, of course).
Even though you have more "control" over which gear you want to be in, it takes longer to shift and engage the gear than it would in an automatic. Most modern automatics are also pretty intuitive and are able to sense what you're trying to do depending on throttle input and the speed at which the throttle is applied.
Whenever people talk about how much they enjoy manual, I don't understand why. In my opinion, it's kind of a pain in the ass how you have to do all that work to get moving and the guy next to you in the automatic is already gone. Like, why would you row a boat when you could get one with a motor on the back for the same price.
What makes a manual car enjoyable? Maybe some people also think it makes them look "tough", or like they are a professional driver, but speaking from my experience manuals seem like a big pain in the ass.
>>15108010
>Statatory Rap
>Incest
I get the first being a crime but the second.
>>15109912
If this wasn't pasta, it is now.
>>15109890
Not a chance. Even an old fashioned sequential with a clutch has shift times in the milliseconds. Modern dual clutches are close to 0ms shift times with no loss of power. Your muscles simply can't move that fast.
>>15107763
Because now the younger crowd cares more about how the car looks and how they look in the car, rather than how fun it is to drive.
And this is an exclusively American problem.
>>15107891
>manualfags are cancer
Comes to automotive board, gets mad about automotive centric thing.
>>15109912
nice meme
>>15107911
Salty poorfags are the worst tbqh
>>15108010
Rolling.
>>15108010
rollin
maybe in fatland
in Australia and Europe manuals are extremely common. Everyone I know drives a manual. I had no idea they were 'dying'.
>>15110719
They're dying in civilized and relevant countries. How's that ADSl and expensive gas treatin' ya' M8?
In the civilized world were being forced to buy overweight pseudo luxury econoboxes with automatics.
manuals arent dying its just that americans like to think they are the center of the universe
>>15108010
rollin
my next car will be a manual
>>15107798
You're just like those people who don't buy manuals because they might drive through 5 minutes of traffic on their commute.
Just admit that you're a pussy and can't drive manual, no reason to lie about it.
>>15107763
I don't give a shit about manual unless it's a sports car and manual is available in just about every sports car.
>>15108010
>$150360 bond
holy shit f'am
I love contributing to the death of manuals. Hell I drive a CVT I'm even contributing to the death of gears. Feels real good.
>>15107909
I'm sorry anon, but I hope you know that everyone who read through that conversation can tell you are the butthurt one.
>>15108010
rolling
>>15108010
rolling
>>15108010
interesitng
>>15110748
>civilized and relevant
That's what amerikansky actually believe
>>15107774
In North America a manual is perceived as a performance option. In Europe it's an economical option.
Excluding the extreme low end, it becomes more common for a vehicle to be specced with a manual as the price rises in North America. The opposite is true in Europe: it doesn't make sense to people there to get a high-dollar car with a manual since manuals are for econoboxes.
>tfw local Mazda dealership won't offer manuels anymore
>>15111507
>>15111538
>they haven't looked at Honda's website yet
the 2016 Civic will only come with a manual transmission as a base model car. The highest trim will be CVT/Auto only.
They also added leather to the lineup, but you have to conveniently let go of a 6-speed gearbox to possess such a thing.
The Accord (counting the coupe and sedan as the same model because trim levels don't change) offers only a traditional automatic with the V6 option and I believe manual is an option on two of the trims, one of them being base model.
>>15111560
>They also added leather to the lineup, but you have to conveniently let go of a 6-speed gearbox to possess such a thing.
Or, you know, buy leather seats
>>15111507
In NA, plenty of cars come with the manual as the economic (lower cost) option. Only perhaps Ford with the Focus/Fiesta have mannual as a performance option
>>15111581
leather package is more than Jose's weight redo job.
>>15111560
>>15111581
also, acura doesn't offer any manual gearboxes at all in their lineup.
I get that it's one company, but Hondabois are kind of a thing, and now it's pretty obvious their interest is shifting away from Hondabois, which as nice as it sounds, is going to likely be bad for the rest of the car scene as a whole.
Honda could very well afford to lose a bit of money catering to the select few overall a bit more than necc, but they chose not to (or more specifically, to stop). I wouldn't make any long term predictions, but it's both depressing and worrying.
If you can't reliably find civics on the road to hoon with, why even bother looking harder?
>>15111612
post feels when
>you will be alive when the only option to get a new car with a manual transmission will be an MX-5.
>tfw want to buy Manuel car
>don't know how to drive stick
>no way of learning hands on
I can learn from videogames right? Just pop in a ps2 game and buy a racing wheel with a shifter
>>15107792
It's not progress. You're still getting there just as quickly. It's a paradigm shift and nothing more. If you think auto vs manual on public roads has an objective solution, you're wrong. It's fucking culture.
Yes, a top of the line auto will be faster around the track, but you're not driving on the track, now are you? If you were, you definitely wouldn't have some harness and cage free car claiming to be safe.
>>15112086
Try playing maximum tune in the arcade
>>15110241
>>15108284
He's right though. Not to mention that it sells for way above msrp and no one will drive them the way they were meant to because porsche just makes boutique cars for old men.
>>15109912
here's your (you)
>>15107763
Manual transmissions are seen as an enthusiast accessory these days and most people who buy new cars get automatics because they're simply easier to drive.
>>15109912
Get good.
Serious, not even memeing. I daily drive a manual in LA and never had a single issue you mentioned.
Only get auto if your car isn't a sports car. (Sub supercars, ultra performance cars) but even then...
I've driven automatic for 10 years. Why do you faggots have a problem with that? Are your meds not helping you enough with that autism?
>>15109912
>manual takes like 2-4 seconds to upshift
>>15108010
for dubziezz
>>15108010
time to roll
>>15107763
Feminism.
>>15108010
rooll
>>15108010
r/o/ll
>>15108010
henry rollins
>>15107763
People who drive manuals only buy used cars. Car companies don't get money from used car sales
its part of the dumbing down proses the gov is pushing to lol us to sleep so we may never awaken to our god hood.
>>15108010
Roll
>>15107819
Missing what point? Once your in top gear on freeway you are cruising just like all the automatics you sperg
>>15108010
C'mon 40-42!
>>15114051
Bleh, re-roll.
>>15112174
>porsche just makes boutique cars for old men.
I don't think anyone who can't afford a top-tier Porsche actually knows what the owners do with them. Like, if you want to hoon a car then buy it and hoon it. If you don't even know someone with a net worth as high as that car's value, then don't make assumptions about whether you'd like the car or not.
There are men who baby their 5 year old Boxsters, and there are men who crash Bugattis into lakes.
>>15111560
Leather is not a good thing, that's just a social construct. Fabric is a much better material for seats, unless you are eating food in the car or shitting yourself.
>>15114212
Leather smells, looks, and feels nicer to the touch. It also retains its looks for a long time if cared for.
Cloth never looked or felt nice to begin with and still wears out. All it has going for it is that it holds your ass in place better than smooth leather (but not suede) and doesn't feel as hot or cold in extreme weather (though leather adjusts rapidly).
The newer generation being more tech-savvy and tech orientated means less people are working with their hands (which is why trades are struggling to find competent young guys to replace the aging tradespeople), so no one picks up a hobby like cars really anymore.
Or anything mechanical really. People these days would rather just pay a nominal fee for others to do basic shit to their cars.
Most of my friends are of the attitude "meh, self driving cars are gonna replace it all anyway, who cares"
>>15108010
Rolling
>>15108010
roll
>>15108010
lol
>>15108010
rolling rolling rolling
>>15108010
wow wtf
>>15108010
rooooll
>>15108010
rollan
>>15107763
Why are people who drive manuals the only ones who care about what other people drive?
>>15109890
>If this
>and this
>and this
>and this
Manual fags are THIS deluded about their inferior transmission.
>>15107763
Manuals are god awful in traffic and driving for long periods of time. I miss driving it though... When I took my old car out for a run nothing was more fun than perfect upshifts to the redline and double clutching & finally the legendary heel toeing.
I'm alright with automatics now honestly, modern transmissions have come a long way.
>being so bored by driving you have to twiddle a knob to keep yourself entertained
I guess some people just don't like to drive.
>>15107819
He's kinda not. I have an hour commute and I still prefer manual, even when the traffic is stop and go. I like being more involved in the operation of my car.
>>15108457
kek
>>15107939
>Turns just fine
Has live rear axle...
>>15108010
lets fucking do this
>>15108010
rollin
>>15109871
I personally prefer manual because I like the human-machine interface.
>>15108010
rawl
All brands that arent super luxury will always offer a manual for their performance cars.
Why do American /o/utists say manuals are dying? The only cars excluding them from the lineup are economy cars. Ford, Mazda, Chevy, Subaru, ect. will always keep manual for their fast cars. Thats all that matters.
>>15107763
They haven't. Quite a few people I know can drive stick since they grew up from the 70s. A lot of shitboxes from the 90s are stick here. Most people choose to drive an automatic because the morning commute to work anywhere in Houston is guaranteed to be awful.
I even still see a lot of people driving around in their performance cars over the weekend. It's hardly dead, it is just that it is entirely optional now.
>>15108010
rollin
>>15108010
>>15120266
Your missing some numbers your chart m8
reroll
>>15108010
>>15108010
I hope she's qt
>>15117345
>Manuals are god awful in traffic and driving for long periods of time.
I've dailied a manual for years now, with plenty of long commutes over surface streets. It's really not that bad if you know what you're doing.
>>15108010
I wanna qt murderer.
>>15108010
Let's roll for the booty
>>15108010
roll
WHY ARE AUTO STICKS SO FUCKING UGLY AND HUGE????????????????
>>15120764
same here been dding stick for about 6 years now the only time it sucks is stop and go highway traffic
Britbong here. Automatics are confusing and I feel like a danger to everyone around me while driving them. Just the fact that you can be not touching anything, and still be moving forward is a recipe for disaster. They're also really boring to drive.
>>15108010
rolle
>>15107763
Only in the US apparently. It seems americans grow lazier, fatter, and dumber every day.
>>15121682
It depends on the car.
>>15107763
Can't operate your smartphone AND a stick shift at the same time.
>>15108010
>43-45
>Illegal Twerk
>>15121738
>you can be not touching anything, and still be moving forward
Hit the brakes, dumbass.
>>15123824
His point still stands, dumbass.
>>15108010
:3
>>15111584
leave it to Ford US to do it backwards
not only do we not get the good Fiesta, we also get manual as a PERFORMANCE option
>>15108010
Here we go
>>15108010
>>15108010
Holy shit is 55 even real?
>>15124696
none of them are you fucking idiot
>tfw want to buy a manual for my first car
>dad has only bought and driven automatics for the past 30 years and would probably crash if he tried to teach me shifting
Real talk m8s I need someone to recommend a book or something so I can learn
>>15107763
>you can't be into driving cars and prefer automatic
That's some shitty no true Scotsman right there, m8
>>15112086
Just do it, i bought a v6 2011 mustang and i learned to drive it in less than an hour just following youtube videos and shit.
I would want to learn manual, but for like, a weekend car or something. I live in NY, so even for the outer boroughs, a manual is not fun for commuter traffic.
I also have no way of learning it without first buying a manual car, but I want an auto for commuting...
some day though, I'll get around to learning manual.
I would say that the other anons saying itt are right, Manual is making something of a comeback with millennials, possibly because of memes. (OH LOOK AT ME IM A HRADCORE DRIVER I HAVE A MANUAL, etc)
>>15109912
>3 to 5 seconds to get back into first
Dude what. Are you mentally handicapped? Do you have nubs where your hands should be? Literally its the same amount of time it takes to get an auto moving, and I'm not even good.
>>15128286
you're repling to stale pasta
>>15128286
Personally, I'd rather not have my car drive me. I'd rather drive it. It's like the fear of AI guys. It's going to happen
>>15120764
He probably tries to creep along bumper to bumper because he lives in a city of lane switching assholes
In civilized areas, you can maintain a good following distance in first and actually not block intersections without a brotruck trying to get into the apparent "fast lane"
>>15108278
look, I found the guy who cant drive stick
>>15123824
Braking against engine power is really counter-intuitive to somebody who's always driven manuals.
>>15107798
it becomes 2nd nature and like a lot of people are saying you dont really think about it
>>15107792
>be me
>own luxury car
>car is manual
>feels luxurious still
>drive over retards like you
>>15107763
Lol look at this pleb thread. I bet you all still masturbate manually too.
>>15107792
>Nothing luxury about driving a manual
Says who? It's almost exactly the same. It's literally a matter of preference you fucking moron.
