Mechanics tend to have a bad reputation no matter where you go. Sometimes they cheat you out of your money by doing stupid shit you didnt ask for. Other times they dont replace the parts that are needed. And sometimes they literally sabotage your car so you will return and spend more money.
Why the fuck do they do this shit? How do you find a reliable and honest car mechanic? And how can you tell they meet those qualities?
>>15096946
Find a guy who's been doing it a while. My mechanic's been in business since with his father since 1962. He's honest and fair and specializes in older models; never had an issue.
>>15096946
This is literally 50% of the reason I started getting into cars.
Because good mechanics exist, and they aren't even hard to come by, but they're expensive.
This happens in any trade where you don't know what you're looking at and they do. Someone with basic Plumbing, Electrical and automotive skills can save themselves a lot of money.
>>15096992
The average guy is a clueless retard who is absolutely unable to do any DIY job these days. It's amazing how emasculated men are.
>>15097039
Some of us dont have the time to learn. Thats why we pay people who know how to do those things.
>>15096946
>why
Money
>how find
Ask around, get lucky
>how tell
You have to know something about cars yourself. I do most of my own work. The only stuff I hire out are things that need special tools that are too expensive for a DIYer to buy. Or when a lift is really the only way to get at a part. But knowing if the guy is legit or taking you for a ride requires you to know wtf the guy is talking about
>>15096946
Look in a mirror. You've found him.
>>15096946
>85k mileage Mazdaspeed 3
>Clicking noise in front left wheel, thought it was the CV Axle
>Go to local mazda stealership, since I have full drivetrain coverage
>100 dollars for them to diagnose issue
>All they did was tighten my wheel, noise stopped
>Said both of my CV axles need replacing, my clutch, and my front struts
>Over 3k of labor apparently
>"Thanks but no thanks guys"
>Take my car back home with no issue whatsoever
S T E A L E R S H I P
It's like I can't even trust them to fix an issue, if they are going to lie and tell me everything is fucked
>Brother brings in 06 Mazdaspeed 6 with 90k miles
>Recalled airbag replaced for free
>Took under 10 minutes, said his brakes were 3mm thick and need replacing
>Apparently took off his wheels in 10 minutes and measured them
>>15097536
Sort of related, I took my Outback XT to the dealer for the passenger airbag recall, and they said my front swaybar end links needed to be replaced. I had replaced them literally the day before I took it there.
>dexterity of crippled armless ape
>strength of -100 men
>don't trust anyone else working on car
what do I do
>>15096992
This, but also
>>15097039
this. It's getting pretty hilarious how helpless people are getting. The stupid part is that I'm a stereotypical "nerd" (I work in IT, I was a skinny basement-dweller throughout school, etc), but now I seem to be more competent than all the jocks I went to school with. Plumbing, electrical, mechanics, metalworking, you name it. And those jocks... they work their trade job, go home, watch tv, rinse and repeat, then wonder why they're not cool anymore.
>>15097131
I work 6-18, still have plenty of time and energy, what the fuck is your excuse? Sitting by a desk gave you gut so now you can't fit under a car?
>>15097792
Go to the gym.
>>15097814
This. Nothing pisses me off more than people who work, then go home and play vidya/watch tv, then complain they "don't know how" to do stuff. Do you people seriously have no drive, no motivation to do shit? Go buy a $500 shitbox on CL, watch youtube videos on how to do maintenance/upgrades, repeat until you get good.
>>15097829
Yeah, with Google and youtube there's no excuse why you can't try to do shit yourself
>>15097829
>>15097854
10/10
we live in times where anyone with a fucking smartphone has access to a database with ~95% of the collective human knowledge
"don't know how" is not an answer anymore
also
who /diy/ here?
>>15099132
>>15097829
>parents car needs oil change
>offer to do it for them because why not just need jacks lmao
>they say nty I won't have a clue what I'm doing
>hm ok
>father takes it to some garage normie car place
>waits 3 hours
>pays $70 or $80
>comes back
>ask him what oil they put in
>"idk"
>few days later check the engine bay because engine bays are cute
>fresh wet oil spilled over half the block
>spilled on wiring and other parts and lines and shit
Why
>be good at something
>fuccboi millenials cry about paying for labor
>"b-b-but the part was only $50!"
I guess when youre an autistic NEET you don't understand the concept of working for a living
>>15097039
Posted on a Chinese cartoon forum
>>15097829
Says the guy who wastes all his fucking time on cars and
>doesn't exercise
>didn't build his own desktop
>doesn't have a VPN or home server
>goes out to eat regularly instead of cooking at home
"B-b-but my corolla requires all my free time!"
Maybe you should buy a better car lol
kuso thread
Not making an excuse as I don't have to deal with this anymore but just in case you are all still wondering why people in the post internet age can't learn things even though they want to, it's 99 out of 100 times due to shitty family or relationships filling them up with fear or fud about how the second they open anything, they will break it 100% beyond repair. This is the permavirgin foreveralone in me speaking but I know a couple of guys that before they were married, were the typical /o/ tier mechanics, always had a project car etc and now that they're married... They have been brainwashed and repeat verbatim what she said about how he'll fuck up their car... EVEN THOUGH HE HAS WORKED ON HIS OLD CAR AND FIXED IT PERFECT. Shitty families and marriages will always be anti-intellectual, no matter how easy the information is. Just saying. Some people are just fucking lazy but I f they're not, and you are wondering why, that's typically the reason
>>15099177
>ask him what oil they put in
>"idk"
which means they filled it with the cheapest cooking oil possible
thats why it baffles me that few people do it themselfs
not only its piss easy, many garages also try to fuck you over on it
at least your parents should have learned their lesson
>>15096946
Find the guy who everyone at the race track knows and respects. His shop will be full of race cars and exotic sports cars. And he'll have a fleet of tuned miatas with stupidly beefy clutches to loan out while working on your shit.
>>15099291
In my area it's roughly the same price only they Rey to sell you a service where they top off your brake fluid and window washing fluid and etc etc for way more than it should be.
Also you don't need to deal with the leftover used oil. I still do it myself though since I have heard stories of people fucking up a simple oil change.
One of my friends got an oil change, they flushed out the old oil and forgot to put new oil in
>>15099271
lol neckbeard no car gets mad
>>15099291
>He doesn't fill his engine with the finest grade virgin olive oil
>His engine will never know the feeling of feasting on virgin olives
LMAOing@urlifeRN
>>15099307
I work on my cars as well as my computers
I only take it to a mechanic for "big" fixes which is rare. Do all the servicing and minor shit myself. How can you even bring yourself to talk shit when you're posting from an ancient shitbox of a PC?
My desktop costs more than your shitty little car bro excluding peripherals
>>15099271
None of those things except exercise take any appreciable amount of time. I have never owned any desktop computer I didn't build myself, I cook every day, I lift, and I still have plenty of time to fuck around in the garage.
>>15099259
>Posted on a Chinese cartoon forum
that also has a /diy/ board
Im not that above anon but there are people on 4chan that make some serious cool stuff
Goddam I want to wrench my cars so bad, can't wait to own a house with a garage.
I don't trust any shops anymore. None of them give a fuck about your car.
>took car in for 2 rear wheel bearings and oil change
>specifically requested multiple times the check all fluid levels as coolant was low
>$500 later pickup car, check under hood later that day
>coolant is so low there is almost none in reservoir, brake oil is way below lowest level
>job well done
Seriously you are changing the oil, how do you not at least glance around the engine and notice other fluids are low? They just don't fucking care.
>>15099379
When I was in apartments I just did it in my parking space. Just be cool about it, put down cardboard, and never leave things out overnight or when you're gone.
>>15099327
>setting up and maintaining a web server takes no appreciable amount of time
Clearly you have never been go /g/
Building a desktop is easy but hardly anyone does it, then they go spend $800 on a $500 PC just because they were too lazy to watch a youtube video and assemble it themselves.
Same idea with changing your oil
>>15099379
Find a new mechanic who isn't a piece of shit. My tire guy is cool. Oh yeah tires are another thing I don't do myself, as they require special tools to put on (properly without nigging them on with a hairspray can and kitchen lighter)
>>15099416
>$800 on a $500 PC
$1200 on a $500 PC**
It's pathetic, really.
>>15097829
Shop manuals are pretty good too
you have to find the slightly autistic ones that actually love fixing cars.
Like this guy.
Ive gone to 2 mechanics i trust; one was the ones my parents have gone to for years (we had a shit box jeep that was constantly shitting the bed), and now i go to the local mechanic who specializes in old farm trucks. He shoots straight forward and actually tells me just to do some stuff at home.
But stealership story time
>Parents bring in 00 frontier in for A/C repair
>2 days later they call us up with the "fixed" A/C and a list
-Major leak in head gasket
-Cabin filter needs to be replaced
-All belts are shot
>They actually fight us on letting us take the truck home, saying they cant release it unless the repairs are made because its unsafe.
>We take the truck home and inspect the list of "problems."
-was just some spilled oil
-dont have one
-we replaced them last month.
>After all that, A/C shit itself the week later.
>>15096946
Personally I've found that if a mechanic is on the up and up, they won't mind if you ask to come out in the bay and see what they're doing. If they're sketchy they don't want you to see what they may or may not be doing.
My mechanic usually invites me out to the bays to see how the projects are going and bullshit while they work.
>>15099305
>One of my friends got an oil change, they flushed out the old oil and forgot to put new oil in
Ive seen cases where they didn't tighten the oil drain plug properly but forgetting to refill it is almost an absurd level of incompetence
>>15099322
>implying I'm not using Ortice Riserva Extra Vergine oil for Italian cars
>implying I'm not using Takao Nouen no Olive Hatake for Japanese cars
do you even into cars?
>>15099379
Further to this I had the shop quote me on replacing both front struts and rear shocks. They wanted over 1k.
The wife and I are heading up to Canada next month and know a mechanic who is a family friend. His garage is damn near the size of his house and he has a commercial car lift in it. I asked him to do the struts and shocks, plus a outer tie rod, plus a front wheel bearing, he said sure for $260 maple dollars. I'm buying all the parts for $300 US.
>>15097829
Part of the reason I don't do everything myself is because of the way the economy works. If everyone starts doing everything themselves, then the people who used to be paid to do that stuff for you suddenly don't have jobs. That would suck.
Not only that but it's just easier to rely on somebody who's been doing it forever. People don't need to know how to do everything and anything, anon.
The only thing that bothers me is when people who don't know a whole lot about what they need fixed - a car, a computer, etc. - try to argue with the guy who's doing the work to fix it.
>>15099324
Wow dude can I be as cool as you
>>15097829
I make decent money being an office jockey and really can't be arsed to do more work when I get home. If the benefit of doing my own maintenance isn't economically worth greater than or equal to what I make at my job, I'd rather just pay someone else to do it.
Goofing off is it's own reward.
>>15099416
>>15099271
HAHAHA, please! You're serious? I'm a communication engineer, basically deal with computers and servers all the time, I still have plenty of spare time whilst doing a 9-5 job and dealing with two households, two cars and a mbike, sounds like you're just another lazy motherfucker spending all his free time administrating his anime-server and posting to /OSG/-threads with your "tuning-stickers" while you pretend on the internet that you "work" on your lowered shitbox civic that you have in your moms name and insurance, you pathetic cuck.
>>15099578
>I still have plenty of spare time whilst doing a 9-5 job and dealing with two households, two cars and a mbike
bs
Those kinds of mechanics are pretty rare, though I do know one personally who goes out his way to spend as little as possible, leading to worthless hackjobs. Most of the bad mechanics I know of are victims of the Dunning Kruger Effect.
I went to a lithuanian shop on my dad's recommendation, they turned out to be bretty gud, undercharged for my clutch job and let me bring in my own parts. Meanwhile the mazda stealership is a bunch of shits, those cunts lost my license plate on an oil change and tried to charge $140 for a diagnostics scan
>>15099578
Fellow /g/uru here. It is NOT the same to get a prebuilt, each part you buy has its own warranty, paradoxically never used because the parts are exceptional. Prebuilts die after 3-5 years and built workstations are retired after 10+ years. You can also buy business class workstations from OEMS for $2-3K but by building it yourself you're getting the same exact shit for $600-800. Only reason why you would not do this is if you are a business and need support for them on a huge level, it will be hard for you to maintain 500 of them. But if it's just yourself, or a 5 man office or less, building a workstation is by far the better option
>>15096946
>Why the fuck do they do this shit?
To make money.
> How do you find a reliable and honest car mechanic?
Reputation. Ask around.
> And how can you tell they meet those qualities?
Reputation.
Quality of cars in their shop. I live in a relatively rich area, so my Friendly Local Mechanics work on aston martins, ferraris, and old Mercs as well as the usual crop of econoboxes.
Content of their yard. If there's not at least one gutted van in it, they aren't worth it. It's also where they park their own cars.
Do they answer the phone themselves? Anywhere with a receptionist is tacking her salary and maternity pay onto your costs. My local mechanics usually don't answer the phone for minutes on end.
>>15099578
>>15099648
God damn!
Spending over $500 for a custom-built computer to browse a Chinese cartoon web board to brag about over spending on computers and peripherals
Fucking kek
I'm browsing on a Dell I bought for $45 with a pirated copy of Win7 Pro and up to date antivirus
Keep helping the economy plebs
>>15099709
>>15099709
God damn!
Spending over $5000 for a custom-built turbo so you can rev your engine at red lights to brag about sikk burnouts you did while driving to pick up your little brother from school
Fucking kek
I'm browsing in a civic I bought for $3,000 with brand new tires and up to date service history
Keep helping the economy plebs
>>15099447
b-but it's WATERCOOLED
it MUST be worth what I paid!
>>15097829
>Nothing pisses me off more than people who work, then go home and play vidya/watch tv
>Do you people seriously have no drive, no motivation to do shit?
Not everyone flips burgers for 6 hours 4 days a week, having his mom cook and clean and do his laundry and shit. Some of us work nine, ten hours a day to make good money to pay others doing some of our shit for us. It's not a matter of drive or motivation, it's a matter of being forced to outsource work. You enjoy working on your car to relax, others work out, cook or watch Top Gear on TV. Life is full of compromises, you have no right to judge others for making different choices.
>>15099648
Meh. You can't save that much money by doing it yourself. Maybe like 20-30% but not like 4-5x factor. Also just because you built it yourself doesn't make it any more durable. Parts still fail.
>>15097152
Fug mang, inspirational
>>15096946
I'm a mechanic since I was 14 yo. I have my own bussiness now, I must be the most stupid motherfucker ever, since I never cheated any of my costumers. But it doesn't matter, because you find all kind of faggots that use google for ten minutes and decide you just don't know how to do your work or are trying to steal their money.
Seriusly, this job kills you if like me you have som kind of empathy. Some poor guy comes with a problem in his car and you know he needs it, so you breaks your bones trying to make it fast and cheap and by the end he thinks it's too much and never comes back. I know others that don't give a fuck, but that's just not who I am.
>>15097536
You know there's a tool to measure brake thickness right? BMW tech here and it's literally like a pen you stick in a small slot in the brake pad. Tells the thickness. I can check all four brakes in a matter of seconds.
>>15099900
Amen brotha
>>15097536
Well, you were the guy who brought a car in because he couldn't tell a wheel was loose.
>>15097829
Agreed.
>parents wants me to go to the Lexus dealership to change the air filter
>they quote me around ~120 dollars for engine + cabin air filter
>I youtube videos on how to do it
>buy the parts
>did it myself
>spent only 40 bucks
Sometimes, I think I should just open a small air filter installation shop and charge them only 20 bux.
>>15100035
I do service work on hvac systems and I feel you there. It sucks when you have to stick someone with an expensive repair when you know they can't really afford it.
I try to hp them out by showing them how to do some basic stuff or where to buy some materials so they don't get clobbered by markup.
>>15099900
Poorfags gonna poor m8
I do most of my own, work but sill use shops for bigger stuff I just don't feel like fucking with
>>15099661
text message then? At least theyll have the time to answer when they can.
>>15099271
>didn't build his own desktop
literally anyone that can work on a car can build a desktop, I learned how to by myself when I was 14
>>15096992
>Plumbing
Holy shit this. I worked as a plumbing assistant for a while and this lady paid us near $80 just to stare at her toilet for 30 seconds and recrimp the flapper chain.
>>15101269
damn I should learn plumbing, I used to get money for doing shit like installing an antivirus or wiping a hard drive, but this sounds even better.
>Be a few years ago.
>Be 16.
>Have Volvo 240.
>Master cylinder is on its way out.
>Take to trusted mechanic.
>He says needs new pads/rotors turned.
>No biggie, but new pads don't agree with the car, car doesn't stop well at all now.
>Mechanic shrugs.
>Take to Volvo dealer.
>Volvo dealer says everything is fucked, and it needs $1600 of work, including brake reduction valves that aren't known to fail.
>Take to another bro mechanic, he puts different pads on, car stops on a dime again.
>mfw car still drives and stops years later, and the brake system obviously isn't in need of any work.
FUCKING STEALERSHIPS
>>15100035
Fix my car anon,
you can have my money.
>>15101310
It's because, at least in my experience, dealership techs are told not to troubleshoot. If something is bad, just fucking replace the whole system
>>15099900
I work 12 hour days with a 24 hour duty day every 4th day including weekends and I still have time to wrench on my car, go camping, fishing, shooting, work out and eat out 3 times a week. get under your car and learn some life skills. people like you are the 30 year old man I saw watching a state trooper change his tire for him yesterday.
>>15101507
Seriously, sometimes, like today, I almost feel like I'm better when my workshop is empty, even when I don't have money to pay my debts. I should be happy with all the cars I have to fix, but every one of them is a fucking pain in the ass, and I don't even make real money out of it, because you have to cut your benefit if you want people to come back.
Just think about this, I have some real good clients, guys that never left me and trust every word I say, pay without saying a word and leave my house with a smile. Am I supposed to charge them more, or make them a smaller discount than the idiot that comes with a hundred of different estimations from every other mechanic in town? Cause I can't do it.
>>15102365
Between parts markup and your usual unreasonable hourly rate (i have heard anything from $50-$120 per hour) how are you NOT rolling in the money?
Where does all your money go? Tools? Space/shop rental? Electricity to run the shop?
I will grant you some items probably make you absolutely no money (oil change). But the average person walking in for repairs is looking at spending $100-$400 easy. And most basic repairs can be done do retardidly fast with the right tools these days.
I'm genuinely curious.
>>15102428
>Between parts markup
wich in part goes to the costumer
>and your usual unreasonable hourly rate
25€
>Where does all your money go?
Debts. I have the biggest and most prepared workshop in the city, I had 15 people working here, now we are just three. This country went literally to shit with the financial crisis, and took us in the worst situation possible, with a huge investment just finished.
>>15096973
>The free market economy literally fixes everyting
>>15099726
Nice comeback shit for brains!
I wouldn't get caught dead in a Honda, much less spend that kind of money on shit cars.
Try again, this time come up with an original retort.
>>15101310
>Master cylinder
For a moment I was wondering if your car had a radial engine, then remembered that's also for brakes.
>>15100995
Landline. You've either got to keep calling until someone hears it ringing, or drop by in person.
They do great work, though, and it's a proper garage. Rusting oil drums, gutted vehicles sat around in the unpaved yard, customised vehicles around, and fancy expensive cars up on the lifts being worked on next to Mrs Partridge's 15 year old Fiesta that she hasn't replaced 'because it still goes, doesn't it?'.
I don't think I'd trust anyone else with my shit. I don't trust corporate chains, but someone who trades on their reputation without a need to advertise other than word of mouth is just great.
>>15102428
>unreasonable hourly rate
> For years of experience
> For getting in amongst sharp edges and fragile plastic things
> For owning all the specialist equipment and knowing how to use it
Considering the pain I went through just changing my own oil to save money, I think they're worth it for anything that needs lots of work. I'm only servicing and washing the car myself because I want to learn how.
>>15105381
Jeebus from a crew of 15 to 3 is rough. Didn't realize the UK economy was in the shits that much.
Investment/expansion is risky in any business. Hope you can ride it through and when things get better you can grow your business again at a sustainable rate.
>>15099271
Building desktops is literally playing with legos for neckbeards. And cooking is not a skill. You're a cuck faggot.
>>15101562
Yup. Flat rate does that. I mean, if you can convince them to trouble shoot, they'll charge you hourly, but if they can beat the time on the flat rate paper they're getting paid way more.
>beautiful day out today
>decide to do my brakes
>do my little ritual before I work on my car (gather tools and organize)
>go to pop the wheel off
>tire iron won't budge
>jump on it
>still won't budge
Whoever the previous owner brought it to decided to have the incredible fucking hulk torque the wheels on. Same with the oil drain plug. Fuck those lazy cunts I hope their Chinese jacks fail and crush them to death
>>15096946
So go buy 30k worth of tools and do it yourself.
>Wow, $50 an hour to drywall my house hm seems legit
>Wow, $20 an hour to fix my car, what a ripoff fuck you dude xddd
normie logic
>>15097829
>>15097814
I literally can't afford to work on my own car
i don't think you people realize what a privilege you guys have
>>15099177
Tbh I paid more than that in oil alone for my last oil change (did it myself ofc)... Did I get jew'd?
>>15097039
>>15096992
it recent years it has become illegal to do any work yourself
you would be surprised how much law has be put into place with regards to non professorial liability
.ie ford or who ever is too shit scared of some retard suing them over a his hack job on repair
>>15106744
All car mechanical jobs are literally plug and play.
The parts are designed and machined to fit and fucking bolt together with standardised fixings.
It is very easy to do any mechanical work on a car because all the actual work is done by the engineers.
>>15106842
get under a car and do it yourself for a living
>>15106842
Not everything just fits together like legos and you have to shit cars out quickly to make any money. you can be standing there googling shit all day.
and the architect and the engineer do all the work on a building too you dunce. laborers just do what the foreman/contractor tells them to do
did you think jose hernandez spackling your wall has any fucking clue about building codes or structural load design.
>electrician shows up to plug and play your water heater for $200/hr nbd
>guy rebuilds my transmission for $800 labor and it's a fucking travesty.
should have learned trade instead of art history, gay boy.
>>15099528
well yea but professionals are very busy and don't really have a motivation to take time or do a Thorough job
or really even have the time to get to know the customer and what they need as oppose to what they expect
and what is so hard about changing oil and other consumables that it requires a seasoned expert
stupid little general jobs are clogging up too many specialists
same in the medical field where people qualifiedly to administer most any drug are more often handing out band aids and splints
>>15106786
These excuses keep getting better and better every day, how do you faggots come up with these?
>>15099177
Sounds like the first oil change I did.
I got caught by a sudden gust of wind when pouring the oil, and it went fucking EVERYWHERE. Heater stank of burning oil after.
>>15106883
This.
I guarantee you that after two hours on your back in cramped conditions trying to turn something, you'll see why they charge so much to do it.
>>15106903
That I'm literally too poor to do it myself?
Why are you people pretending its not expensive as fuck
>>15106906
How does taking it to some greasy nigger in an oilpit become less expensive?
>>15106940
>all the equipment and ingredients I'd need
way too much, I just cant afford it
>>15106946
Literally a tire-iron, socket and a low bucket to drain into can be had for 5$, if you're that poor you shouldn't be able to even drive a car. You're just making up excuses.
>>15106977
Im not talking about doing oil m8
besides
i dont know where to get that stuff
i dont know which one is the good one
i dont know where on my car i use that stuff
>>15106994
So you're a retard who doesn't know how to use google, how to solve simple problems and is literally on the level of a woman or a nine year old. Good job mate, give yourself a pat on the back. I guess you have some sort of an aid who comes and makes you food and wipes your ass also?
You're literally this >>15097829
>>15107020
K
I don't know anon, I'm sorry my ignorance and poverty offends you so much.
>>15106994
Jesus christ how fucking stupid are you? All thoses questions can be found on google. Unless your illiterate or just mentally challenged there's no reason you couldn't do it yourself.
>>15107025
It's not even that you're poor, but you act like it costs less to take it to some greasenigger than doing it yourself, so you're a fucking moron. You think half the people who DIY have copious amounts of wealth so that they can work on their cars? No, faggot, even when I was in school I had enough to not only own a car, but to work on it myself, in a year I saved over 3000€ just by doing things myself.
You're pathetic.
This is why I'm buying a Tesla model 3 so i dont have to deal with this bullshit op. Less moving parts less points of error to fix. Everyone just buy a fucking Tesla.
>>15106994
super cheep auto has all the pleb shit
jacks and lifts can be a little costly
but if you combine them with caution you should not worry about your $10 bottle jack trying to kill you
what really costs a bit is fabrication and machining
or anything that involves repair rather than replacement
never mind all the obd and fi shit
>>15107042
>>15107036
>>15107056
I wish I had a dad or tool or some kind of basis to start on.
Stop being so mean guys
>>15107044
you say that now
but the tesla is crammed
gonad be well fucked if anything with the cells or diagnostics goes awry
>magic misery box whiteware salesman
>>15107069
Excuses after excuses, have you no fucking initiative? My dad never wrenched, I bought my car and knew I had to learn shit, so I did. Ofcourse I asked around from people who knew their shit, but I did the works on my own or with a friend, but I never had to take my car to a mechanic.
You think people who start shit always have some basis to go off on? "Like nah man, no one's ever done that so I won't do it" what a genius, squirrely-character you must be.
Kill yourself, I'm not even kidding, if you're that fucking useless you should likely just end it before you manage to spread your shitty genes.
>>15107104
First you guys hate my car
now you hate me
why am i alive anymore
>>15107069
I'm going to old fag it up and point out that cars used to come standard with their own service manuals and tool boxes
you were pretty much expected to fix most shit your self
and the malfunctioned so often you that its normal to fix some little issue at the service station (.ie places that are now only petrol stations or garages)
>>15107117
Maybe stop being a big fucking sissy then? Next time you need to do (or have done) something to your poorfag-mobile, look it up first, see how people have done it and just go step by step and copy it, the biggest step is the first leap into wrenching, after that it's a cakewalk. I know plenty of faggots like you that I have tried to get into wrenching, some stop receiving help because they learn to do it by themselves, others I refuse to help anymore because they're morons. Find out which one you are, if a moron -> kill yourself, if not, don't and enjoy being a person who can help themselves.
>>15097829
>taking advice from youtube
>maintenance
>>15107161
How does it differ from taking advice from a cerified mechanic or looking it up from a manual?
>>15107159
but I'm FWD
I already feel like shit every day of my life why do you have to do this
you make fun of FWD every god damn day
im going to fucking end myself
>>15107190
So? This is my FWD I wrench on with my AWD and RWD-buddies, but whatever, kill yourself.
>>15107207
can I race? can i win?
>>15107172
>trusting someone behind a magic screen
>2016
Literally asking to burn your money away.
>>15097039
>Memeing this hard.
When you go to get your computer fixed the IT guys don't laugh at you for not knowing about computers...
It's just different skills are now more relevant in todays world..
What you have is the logic of a redneck dad.
>>15107213
no just kill yourself
>>15097039
Sir, I tip my hat to you.
>>15107225
>It's just different skills are now more relevant in todays world..
> Still can't fix your own car
> Still need mechanics to fix it
If you put as much effort into learning as you do into making excuses, you'd know shit.
>>15107286
Working with small computer components is really easy. Then theres the abstract part when working with an operating system.
Cars are entirely different and every car is slightly different than the other. If something fails, theres a whole slew of things that could be wrong.
>>15107313
I work with computers (software and hardware)
I also work on my car and occasionally on friends cars.
You are full of shit and excuses.
>>15107225
i can fix my own computer, replace my brakes, change the oil, change the tire, check the transmission fluid level, etc
what's your excuse
>>15106905
I ain't new to this, I wrenched for years.
I've spent countless hours on my back covered in oil craning my neck up at some awkward angle, bent over double in foot wells, hand jammed down god knows where in the engine bay getting 1/24th of a turn on a bolt with an open ended wrench having to flip the wrench each 24th turn, welded sills, painted panels, worked every single job you can name.
It was working on cars that made me hate working on cars.
Fuck cars
I now develop engines for a living.
>buy car from Craigslist
>everything is going great
>about a week later notice coolant on Floor
>pop hood and see some coolant splash around radiator and fan shroud area
>check all hoses and reservoir theyre all fine
>check water pump and outlet, also fine
>well fugggg must be the radiator boys
>new one is like 80 bucks with my employee discount
>excited to wrench this weekend
>check radiator cap because I forgot
>was loose, no more leak
I'm kind of disappointed guys
>>15096946
There was one in my town the flat-out refused to take my money because he thought that even with the repairs he could do, it would still break down and I would have just wasted my money. I took the hint and got another car.
>>15099177
My father always insist that "formal" education is needed to know how to do stuff. I told him i can learn how to fix a car through the internet and he just doesn't trust me, saying ill make some mistake and ruin the car. Keep in mind he has no fucken clue how a car works.
>>15107502
Well... At least you have a spare radiator now?
Maybe replace it anyway and use the old one as the spare. It's probably got issues anyway.
>>15107324
2nding that. I work as a software engineer and didn't even know how to change the oil when I graduated college. I learned car shit out of necessity for going fast. Most of it's pretty easy and the problems are fairly obvious. I still take my engines to a professional for rebuilds though, I don't know all the little voodoo tricks for getting every last fraction of a horsepower possible while still being able to pass tech when I get a podium and they pull the head off.
>>15107556
Nah man I didn't even buy the radiator, I work at vatozone on the weekends I called in and my store had like 2 or 3 so I didn't bother buying it in advance I was gonna just pick up at work.
beating a dead horse here on the overall theme of the thread but seriously do some fucking research. Being ignorant can get expensive.
most maintenance items like air/oil filters, brakes, spark plugs, ect are usually made to be owner serviceable for shit boxes. pretty much anything that is bolted on or hung on the motor can be fixed by the owner. Internal parts like clutches start to get involved but not impossible to do on your own with a friend and tool loans from the auto store. I can understand when shit just breaks and you need it fixed yesterday. But unless your new car has complementary basic maintenance, you really should see if it's something you can diy
I've been asked by many folks to change their oil and pay me for it. Going by the whole "teach an man to fish" concept (because I didn't want to become their "guy") I usually declined their money and told them I will guide them through diy'ing it. After I get under the car/truck with them and point at the two things they need to unscrew to drain and where the new oil gets poured into, they usually say something like "wow I was going to pay someone 50 bucks to do this?" I've even had women come overcome their "OH THERES NO WAY I COULD 'FIX' THAT ANON" preconceptions after being the person that just points and guides and reassures that they not going to break anything.
That being said some people just don't want to get dirty and find more value in paying someone or just psych them selves out of it every time. And there will always be people who think they are helpless when it come to dealing with mechanics.
>>15099648
>10+ years
Why the fuck would you ever want to use shitty hardware from 3+ years ago?
Are you poor or something?
>>15107868
>when the tech illiterate is spewing shit he doesnt understand
>>15107897
Are you referring to me or the person I was responding to?
What kind of enthusiast is using a graphics card older than 3 years?
>>15107918
>enthusiasm means you need to have the newest merchandise
uhh...
>>15107937
In the tech world, yes.
The newer offerings are the fastest and most efficient parts, in nearly all cases.
It's not analogous to car enthusiasts.
>>15106786
A lot of stuff you can do for free. I have the privilege of having an auto hobby shop on base where you can rent a bay/lift for 4 bucks an hour and have access to every tool and manual/wifi you need. that being said, the hardest part of doing car stuff is the hesitation before you actually jump in. I was just the oil change/coolantflush/fill tires kind of car guy until last weekend when I bought a haynes manual and took off my valve covers to replace a ticking lifter. I had no idea what I was doing but it turned out fine. the stuck lifter ended up being a symptom of a failed oil pump, but that's besides the point. get out there and learn about your machine.
>>15096946
>1/9/2005
I wonder what she's doing nowadays.
>>15096946
I gotta eat.
>>15097131
>Some of us dont have the time to learn.
There has literally never been a better time to learn, senpai. You have the collective knowledge of humanity at your fingertips. There are thousands of youtube channels and websites devoted to fixing even the most obscure appliances. Maybe if this was the 70s when you'd have to track down some obscure manual you could make that excuse but nowadays you can watch a 20 min video and follow along.
>>15108001
>mfw the girl in this pic that I've been beating off to for years is probably married with kids now
>or dead
>>15096946
You do it yourself. My dad recommended to me a local mechanic who he always had good experiences with. When I took my car in for grinding noise when turning, I got a $100 diagnosis fee and they told me it was the torque converter. I took it to a meineke a couple weeks later and they charged me 50 bucks to bend the piece back in place that was rubbing when turning.
>>15097536
You know you can look at the brake pads through the wheel spokes right? I rarely have to remove a wheel to check brake pad thickness.
>>15097536
>don't check brakes
>turns out idiot never services them
>crashes as soon as he leaves the shop
>lose job
Yeah, wonder why they did that
>>15099447
FFS man, don't criticize pre-built for being overpriced while posting a pic of a computer with an overpriced ROG mobo, overpriced corsair dominator ram (4 sticks of it too), an overpriced case with a clear side panel, leds that are literally worthless, braided cables, and a custom dual radiator watercooling loop for a single gpu rig that gives you maybe 5-10% performance over an air cooled setup for hundreds of dollars more.
Normies spend extra money on a computer to save them time, whoever built this spent extra time and money because of aethetics.
>>15107069
>be me
>be neet
>finish highschool
>wanna be soldier
>realize that before i die as a soldier i want to learn something
>try to learn ho2maek vidogamz
>2 months passes
>Holy shit its fucking bullshit i hate this shit
>decide to call it quits
>become depressed with my life
>reinstall Street Legal Racing Redline again
>suddenly realizes that i want to know how the fuck engines work
>become more interested
>decide to join an university 3 year freshman career of car mechanics
>be now
>1st year is about to end
>best decision i've made in my life
>i love doing this
>none in my family has any interest in cars
Its not about having the fucking tools, you BUY the tools, its not about having family, its about having the will.
You want me to inspire you to do something instead of people making you feel bad?
FEELING BAD SHOULD BE YOUR OWN INSPIRATION
TRANSFORM THAT SADNESS AND IMPOTENCY INTO WILL TO LEARN!
BE MAD THAT YOU DONT KNOW JACK SHIT!
BE JEALOUS THAT PEOPLE WERE FORCED TO LEARN HOW TO WORK WITH CARS SINCE THEY WERE KIDS!
AND TRY TO LEARN JUST TO PROVE THEM THAT YOU CAN BE BETTER THAT THEM!
USE RAGE TO FUEL YOUR SEEK FOR KNOWLEDGE!
>>15108343
Fucking this, all these "men" complaining about how they were not spoon fed everything and that they can't do something. If you want to do something, stop wasting time complaining and actually do it. No one ever got anywhere with the attitude of "well I didn't get a good start, feel bad for me"
>>15097792
Power tools.
>>15107563
>vatozone
>tfw house on a hill
>tfw no garage
>tfw you have to drive down 2 blocks to a flat surface to service my car
>>15108888
goddamn those quads
sorry you live in the mountains like a hermit
>>15108888
So uh... why did you buy that house exactly? Garage space was a primary consideration for me when I was looking.
