I'm looking at buying a 2009 ford focus manual, is it any good? if not i've been thinking of an svt. It would be for a daily driver. I'm just a big focus fan. Other car suggestions would be cool, but i need some more advice on focus expertise.
>>15076272
They're good cars, and the coupes are the lightest of all first gen Focii.
Check out FSWerks. Pic related.
http://www.fswerks.com/
>>15076272
You could get a slightly newer manual Fiesta Hatch for about the same money and have 4 doors too.
I like 'em though, kinda wish they made the ST Focus Sedan/Coupe at some point.
>>15076315
>have 4 doors too.
They mad Focus sedans too tard.
>>15076365
Yeah, and I wish it came in an ST variant. OP posted a Focus Coupe.
>>15076424
They did, just without the turbo, the 05-06 Focus ST sedan had the Duratec/MZR 2.3 and manual transmission and they make turbo kits for it through FSWERKS
>>15076272
>2009 focus
>literally the same as a 1999 with a new exterior and interior
Shiggy diggy.
>>15076554
and a completely new engine. I don't see a Zetec here. Do you?
>>15076554
Except that the powertrain is different
>>15076272
honda civic si.
>>15076272
>Ford
>good
Pick one
Buy a Mazda 3.
>>15076610
Why, they share the same engines
>>15076656
Engines designed by Mazda.
Also Mazda's are better built in general.
>>15076668
Maybe the accessories on the engines, buy they have the same short block and head designs, there's literally no difference in the engines thenselves, transmissions also
>>15076668
>same car, different styling
>hurr, this one's better cuz it says Mazda on it.
>See? Mazda.
They're the same fucking car you mongoloid.
>>15076668
And they were co-designed between Mazda and Ford when Ford owned the majority stake in Mazda
>>15076677
You're missing the point.
Things Ford had a hand in broke more than things Mazda put together. Especially electronics.
>>15076681
>They're the same fucking car you mongoloid
Nope
>>15076687
>You're missing the point.
>Things Ford had a hand in broke more than things Mazda put together. Especially electronics.
No brother, you're missing the point, the important aspect of the designs were co-developed between Mazda and Ford, they had equal input, the only differences are in the chosen accessories like P/S pumps and system, A/C compressors, alternators, things of this nature
>>15076695
Yea it is. The only difference, period, was that the Mazda had VVT and the Ford didn't.
>>15076712
This.
>>15076712
They have ENTIRELY different electrical systems.
It's so easy to go read this. Why do dumb people exist
>>15076720
[Citation Needed]
>>15076726
the first generation ford focuses had the ZETEC engine aviod the 1.6 as its too asthmatic and dont buy the autos. had a fault in the trans where it would randomly go into "limp home" mode. wasnt fixed till the 2nd gen (2001+) 2nd gen featured the DURATEC engine. the only thing that goes wrong is lazy ownership...
>>15076554
The chassis has more high strength steel and an extra brace behind the dash, it's the lightest and stiffest MK1.
OP I've had my '09 since it had 5 miles on it, I'm now at 155k. It's been a great car so far, cheap to run and fun to trail brake oversteer around corners. Coupes get a RSB the sedan doesn't, also manual coupes have the resonator deleted and are rated a whopping 3hp higher.
>>15079513
The Focus OP is looking at is the American market second generation.
2000-2007 Focii in America were first gens, and the second gen 2008-2011 cars were actually still based on the first gen chassis. Second gens are generally referred to as gen 1.5's because of it.
America never got a Focus engine smaller than 2.0L.
American engine options were as follows:
2000-2004:
2.0L SOHC CVH I4 (base sedans and wagons only)
2.0L DOHC Zetec I4 (standard on hatchbacks and sport trims)
2002-2004:
2.0L DOHC Zetec SVT I4 (specific to the performance Focus SVT. 170 HP, essentially a first gen UK market Focus ST170.)
2003-2007:
2.3L DOHC Duratec I4 (started as a PZEV option in certain states for 2003-2004. Became a performance option in 2005)
2005-2011:
2.0L DOHC Duratec I4 (replaced all the Zetec and CVH engines.
2012-present:
2.0L Duratec I4 with VVT and direct injection (base models)
2.0L Duratec I4 with VVT, direct injection, and a turbocharger (Focus ST)
>>15079599
You forgot the non-turbo ST sedan from 05-07
>>15079623
No I didn't. mentioned it in the 2003-2007 2.3L
>>15079629
Oh yeah I see, you just didn't type that it was in the ST
>>15079636
yup. I will admit, I have a hard-on for the American 05-07 ST 2.3L when equipped with the "Street Appearance Package" in pic related.
>>15079653
The SAP is a factory rice option but goddamn if it doesn't appeal to my inner 13 year old.