>buy a frs because its rwd and cheap
>all my car friends laugh at me
>"haha lol no power dude!"
>even riced out civic drivers chuckling at me
why?
t-track day bro, a-and a-a-auto c-cross
those cones aren't going to knock themselves over breh
I feel ya I have a genesis coupe and I deal with the same shit.
>>15070918
BUY A TURBO KIT AND GET SWOLE BRAH
DEM CIVICS WILL BE 'MIRIN YOUR GAINS
>>15070948
Hahaha this!
>>15070941
it'd better be the V6
>>15070918
>why?
because it's slow in a straight line. That is the entire reason.
>90 bhp Miata is the best thing since sliced bread
>200 bph Toyobaru is LOL NO POWER
>>15070918
If you wanted something cheap you'd buy an older car. Now fuck off, /o/ has enough shitpost threads anyway
>>15070981
/o/ can afford the Miata so they pretend its good
>>15070961
No way, pain in the ass to work on. I smoke the v6's. Plenty of room under the hood for a big turbo with the 4banger
>>15070985
You mad bro
The FRS/BRZ/GT86 doesn't have much power. They are right. I suppose the car wasn't exactly designed to he a straight line speed car so it shouldn't matter. Trouble is, the car looks fast. It's got the kind of looks that makes you think it's fast, but it just fucking isn't. It's almost like it's factory riced. It's not over the top or anything and I think it looks nice, it's just slower than it looks.
>>15070969
I'm going to let you in on a little secret.
Straight line is optimal conditions for speed.
If it's slow in a straight line, it's always slow.
A "can't turn" Mustang literally pulls more Gs, so it's not remotely fast around corners either.
It's an economy car that sacrificed economy to "feel" more like a sporty car. Problem is the feel alone does not make it sporty since it lacks the other traits of a sporty car.
What does that make it?
It sacrifices too much power and handling ability in favor of economy and cost to be sporty.
It sacrifices too much economy in favor of feeling sporty to be a good economy car.
It sacrifices too much space and comfort to be considered a luxury or even economical people mover.
RWD gives it less than average capability in inclement weather or low traction surfaces. That combined with the lack of space clearly takes it out of the practical car category.
While it's not an expensive car, it's not exactly competitively priced either. You don't get very much for the money compared to other options.
It tries to be everything, but doing anything well requires compromises in other areas. The end result is a vehicle that compromises every aspect of itself in a failed attempt to be something it's not. It's just bad at everything.
>>15071130
Y-YOU DELETE THIS
>>15070918
Stick a supercharger on it and get some sticky rubber, all that needs to be done with that car
>rwd and cheap
>like fucking $30k
>you can almost buy 2 c5 corvettes for this much
>you can buy 2 350hp v8 sportscar cars for the price of a 200hp frs
frs/brz is not cheap, what the fuck are you thinking?
>>15071216
>t. cum-guzzling miata poorfag benchracer
>buy Fiat 500 Abarth because it was cheap and it's fun
>family makes fun of me for driving a "girl's car"
>buy a Lincoln MKZ for dat comfy ride later on
>everyone calls me an old man
>>15071130
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>>15070918
Because they're bench racers with no source of self worth besides lap and 1/4m times clocked in their cars by professional track drivers
>>15071130
It exists to look and feel good. It's a fucking luxury street car for young men.
Cars are for more than track day and emm pee gees anon. You'd think they would be, with some people spending five hours a day driving them.
>>15071216
>>15071227
Personally for 26k I would rather get this
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c402&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=c453&zip=60020&distance=50000&searchChanged=true&promotionsOnly=true&trimNames=Z06&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true#listing=143888541
Based C5Z
>>15070981
The 90 hp Miata costs $2k
>>15071250
Why buy an MKZ when a Caddy is better in every way?
>>15071299
>luxury for people that haven't figured out what luxury is
>sporty for people that haven't figured out what sporty is
>economical for people that haven't figured out what economy is
>practical for people that haven't figured out what practicality is
You missed the point entirely. If I spent five hours a day in a car, the FRS/BRZ would be the last thing I would choose.
It's not spacious, it's not luxurious, it's overall design favors a sporty "feel" over a comfortable ride, the low seating position that creates a false sense of speed is terrible for visibility in traffic or in even mild hills, RWD and shitty traction make it easy to break loose and feel more powerful than it is, but are terrible for evasive maneuvers which you will eventually need to make if you drive that much and are terrible in inclement weather which you will probably be driving in if you have to drive that much.
It's for ignorant and irresponsible people, male or female.
>>15071368
>figured out what luxury is
Luxury is a subjective quality, not a quality defined by your cigar smoking dad and a corporation that uses a cigar smoking dad as its head of marketing. Luxury is good feels and comfort you get from wasting money.
Luxury is a 20 year old hoon in an FRS, content in himself because he's hooning around and far more comfortable physically and mentally than he would be in a "proper" luxury car. Luxury is separate from practicality, and only rarely occurs in tandem with it.
That's not to say that hoon is a fucking faggot retard, of course.
>>15071368
>evasive maneuvers
t. bus rider
>>15071398
You enjoying your car is not luxury. Luxury being subjective does not mean that you can attach whatever definition you so desire and accurately label anything you want as luxurious.
I enjoy hooning around in 25 year old V8 RWD base model beat to shit pickups. That does not make them luxurious. The old worn out cloth seats while not uncomfortable are far from luxurious.
Is it wasted money if you spent less to get more? Maybe you should come up with a new subjective definition of "wasted" as well.
When I look at an frs I pretty much see a crz. Both complete POS in the same ways. Owners of both cars pull the same mental gymnastics to convince themselves they don't own a terrible car
>>15071445
Enjoying your car is not luxury. A car that was designed to be enjoyed above all else is luxury, even if it's luxury for literal children.
>>15071430
Bus riders do not have to directly deal with the complete fucking idiots that populate public roads. Those of us that drive on a regular basis do. I assume it varies based on location but I've lost count of the number of accidents I've avoided.
>>15070918
You care too much what other people think about you
You don't care about how your car drives
You don't care about how you feel driving your car
You only care what people think about you driving that car.
You are a failure.
>>15071130
>weight and weight transfer dont matter when cornering!
how to tell that someone has never driven a car remotely quickly or taken a car to its grip limits
>>15071460
A go kart is designed to be enjoyed, that does not make it luxurious.
The plastic 1:64 scale toy cars at the dollar store are designed to be enjoyed, that does not make them luxurious.
Here we can see the difference in using logic to reach a conclusion vs attempting to use logic to find support for a conclusion you've made in the absence of logic.
>>15071250
Jesus Christ, you make some terrible decisions
>>15071474
Humor me, what point are you trying to make?
Are you implying that a car that cannot change direction as quickly and has to maintain a slower speed through a corner corners better just because you like the feel of the weight distribution and suspension setup?
Oh, right. You're just grasping at straw men to use for an ad hominem.
>>15071532
>I do not know how vehicle weight affects inertia or weight transfer when determining how to enter a turn at speed or hit apex
try a rally course one day
>>15071576
>another straw man
>to support another ad hominem
Is that really all you know how to do? At least make it interesting and try directly debating anything I've said.
>>15071622
I don't debate people who don't know how to drive :^)
benchracers who think skid pad Gs have any relevance to how a car behaves at the apex have nothing of value to say :^)
>>15071130
It seems to have decent suspension geometry and curb weight. You're not letting stock tires and brakes dictate solely how a car performs are you? In testing it also seems to run right with a miata despite the shitty stock tires. Sounds to me like something a lot of people wanted, a coupe miata.
>>15071656
>another straw man
>to support another ad hominem
>to avoid a direct debate
I think that pretty much sums it up. I have no further questions.
>>15071674
There's no strawmanning here, I'm simply saying you don't know how to drive, based off of some of your hilariously moronic statements in the thread
there's no debate to be had with non driving simpletons
>>15071656
>I don't debate people that think real world objective measurement of performance has any relevance to how a car performs
>>15071665
>Sounds to me like something a lot of people wanted, a coupe miata.
The Miata is not particularly sporty in stock configuration. One of it's biggest redeeming qualities is it's price. It's a cheap taste with an aftermarket to support expansion as time and money allow. Now you're paying $25-30k instead of $1500-2500. Once you take price into consideration, you really can't even compare the two any longer.
>>15071730
Wow new miatas go for 1500-2000 dollars? Guess I should head to a dealership.
>>15071730
>real world measure of performance
You've posted none though
Start posting real skid pad numbers, weights lap, times etc and I jump in on this argument
As of now you look like another faggot anon with a decent vocabulary
It corners well, if you feel bored just go 10/10 and get a little slideways on the touge. Drag cars are NOT fun to drive on the street. You do one pull and you are worried your engine is going to blow and it only lasts a few seconds before you are going maniac fast.
>>15071701
>to support another ad hominem
>to avoid a direct debate
I'm assuming with all the time you spend accusing people of 4chan of not driving and avoiding any sort of debate with objective facts, you probably don't have any time to drive.
Your preference to logical fallacies over debate hint at you not being old enough to drive anyway.
>>15071743
>>15071744
stop replying to a benchracing shitposter
skid pad Gs mean nothing when you're attempting to take a tight turn or hairpin at speed, because on a skid pad you transfer all weight through steering action and not through forward acceleration
the fact that he doesnt realize this makes him just another subhuman bus rider
>>15071760
I'm aware of that but you're just as bad for encouraging roundabout argument that goes nowhere.
>>15071752
>he hasnt seen the norcal meet threads over the past year and a half
>still thinks that challenging someone's credibility on a subject through evidence of lacking knowledge constitutes a personal insult
kek
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rhpWOQhtTQ
>>15071318
Because Cadillac are absolutely abysmal in terms of cost of ownership, and the MKZ was getting a facelift the next year so I got it for nearly $10k off.
>>15071504
How so?
>>15070918
>buy Fiesta ST
>get called a fag quite often
>mom said I was compensating for getting a "sports car"
I am a faggot, but it's getting annoying. How is buying a fun, cheap, and lightweight hot hatch faggy or compensating for anything?
>>15071130
>Straight line conditions are optimal so if its fast in a straight line its fast in the corners and if its slow in the straight line its slow in corners.
Completely untrue in fact if you wanted maximum straight line speed you would have to add features that completely kill your cornering speed which is why you don't see dragsters winning F1
Also on the subject of F1 a proper racing bike will easily outaccelerate an F1 car on a flat out straightaway but the F1 car will destroy the bike through the corners and lap much better times.
Your entire post was built upon a huge and massively incorrect assumption.
>>15070918
>turbo install
>make 400hp
>>15070918
because
>>15071857
>responding to obvious shitpost seriously
lets raise the bar on /o/ a bit and only bite hard on the shitposters that know something about cars
the threads become way more fun that way
>>15071034
Same thing as my Celica really.
People just can't enjoy a lightweight sporty cars without being butthurt about power apparently.
This is why cars like the integra/celica/240sx do not exist anymore, this is why we cant have nice things.
>>15070981
>ignoring the lolgoodbyepower torque dip
Also the Miata is faster
>>15071875
>Shitty car a is just as fast as shitty car b!!
I would hate to be the type of person who gives a shit about something like that
>>15071918
>miata
>faster
proof?
>>15071929
>triggered
>>15071911
Is this alphonse actually not shitposting? Holy shit.
>>15070918
How's your personality? You just a quiet pushover? Cause if so that's probably why. Tell he kid in the river civic to put up or shut up. If his car is faster than yours then put some money into it and make it fucking fast. I know some guys with frs that are just office workers losers and they get made fun of but other guys who did more than just lower the car and put wheels on it.
The car doesn't make the man
>>15071857
You completely missed the point. You're not going to go faster around a corner than you are in a straight line.
We're not comparing Formula 1 to Top Fuel drag cars.
>>15071744
>You've posted none though
2013 Mustang V6 - 2013 Scion FRS
>0-60
5.3s - 6.2s
>skidpad
.95g - .93g
>braking 60-0
110ft - 118ft
>MT Figure Eight
25.4s - 25.9s
>Willow Springs Streets of Willow
1:29.09 - 1:31.15
Real world measurable objective results: Mustang is better across the board, even with the V6. This a live rear axle car that is known for it's inability to turn. The fact that there is even a comparison to be made with the "god machine" should tell you the FRS/BRZ is not even close to what it was hyped up to be.
Driver complaints: Mustang has body roll and feels large. FRS gets sideways more often than you'd like.
If you drive on public roads for five hours a day, a car that gets sideways when you don't want it to, isn't all that great on gas, and isn't comfortable is not something you want to be driving for those five hours. The only thing stopping you from running into a crowd of people is the fact that there's no crowd of people there for the FRS.
>>15071826
http://www.offleasefinancial.com/2014_Ford_Fiesta_Sanford_FL_262235579.veh
Am I making a mistake? I'm so fucking confused.
>>15072014
>this level of low effort shitposting
>lol you're going around corners slow anyway so who cares how quickly the corner is actually taken
>gets literally 100 extra horsepower and is only 2s faster than the 200 hp box on prius tires
>>15072014
>>15071995
>If his car is faster than yours then put some money into it and make it fucking fast.
For what reason though? There's always gonna be someone with a faster car.
>>15072014
your "point" was that a car thats fast in straight lines will be faster around corners than cars that are slower in straight lines
that is patently untrue
you are benchracing filth thats never apexed a turn except when turning the corner at the kitchen counter for your mother's freshly made tendies
>>15072040
>you're going slow so who cares how quickly
Are you convinced that you're taking a corner "more quickly" at 52mph than at 54 mph?
>750lbs lighter
>2s slower
There's an 86 model in Japan that retails for 17k brand new. It's a "featureless" model (no stereo, bumper isn't even painted). If I was an idiot that buys from stealerships I would consider the 17k 86 a good deal
>>15072053
>your "point" was that a car thats fast in straight lines will be faster around corners than cars that are slower in straight lines
No. I just told you what my point was, now you are telling me that my point was not my point, and are making up a new point for me.
That is a straw man.
>>15072074
here is the quote
>Straight line is optimal conditions for speed.
>If it's slow in a straight line, it's always slow.
based off this quote you know nothing about cars
>>15072045
OP sounds pretty self conscious. Saying to get more power probably wasn't the right choice of words but he's got to ask himself why he bought it.
>If he bought it to have a fun DD then he should just enjoy it and maybe do some autocross or some sort of motorsport to bring out the charm of the car
>If he bought it to impress some teenagers in civics then he should work on himself cause he's being a giant pushover from the sounds of things.
I see the same thing a lot with different people I ride with. The personality dictates how people will stand up for you or make fun of you.
>focus st or brz
>torque (muh power) or handling (muh driving feels)
>>15072080
that wasnt me
>>15072080
Yes, that is the quote. If what you are claiming my point was is what you actually got out of that, then you know nothing about the English language.
Once again I will explain it to you in a way that's even easier to understand. The car isn't going to corner any faster than it will go in a straight line. While slower than top fuel drag cars, F1 cars are still by no means slow in a straight line. Hence why I said we are not comparing F1 to top fuel.
You're comparing near opposite ends of a spectrum and attempting to draw parallels to a comparison of two cars that are close on the spectrum instead of just directly comparing the two cars you're trying to compare. Logically the only reason to do this is if comparing them directly does not support the conclusion you've already come to.
And now you're literally debating with me over what my point is as if you'd know better than I.
>>15071948
GOD
MACHINE
>>15072113
Top fuel and racing bikes absoloutely destroy F1 cars in a straight line, like completely and utterly annhilate them.
An F1 car is purely, significantly faster around most tracks than a superbike because it can use aero to corner far faster than a bike ever could, we're talking on the order that an F1 car would do 4 laps in the time the bike would do 3, it's that much of a difference.
You're an idiot.
>>15072149
not him but don't F1 cars do the 1/4 mile ~ 7.5s at 180mph?
is a Moto GP bike even faster than that?
>>15072149
>continuing to compare things we are obviously not comparing, I've said multiple times we are not comparing, and given reasons as to why the comparison is meaningless
Another straw man. I never said F1 cars are faster in a straight line than top fuel cars, or that top fuel cars are faster around most tracks than F1 cars.
That comparison does not work here.
The Mustang is faster in a straight line, and around the tracks.
>>15072173
And 0-60 in under 3s.
>>15072193
No, you were saying if something is faster in a straight line its the faster car which is patently untrue.
There are plenty of cars slower than the mustang in a straight line that would destroy it on the track because there's far more than just those numbers. Weight, its effect on cornering and braking, engine position and type have a huge effect hence why as someone posted a slow ass EK9 with less power/weight and a smaller engine and slower 0-60 still beats a Camaro SS around tsukuba
>>15072216
>No, you were saying if something is faster in a straight line its the faster
This is true.
If it's the faster car in a straight line, it's the faster car. Lowest lap time around any and every track? Of course not.
Since you're bent on the F1 vs top fuel comparison, let's make it a little more accurate.
Top fuel car obliterates F1 in a straight line. Agree? Great.
Now imagine that "can't turn" top fuel car pulling more lateral Gs on a skidpad than the "handling godmachine" F1 car AND beat it around most tracks while costing roughly the same brand new.
Sounds absurd, right? However absurd it sounds is how absurd it is to compare the Mustang to a top fuel car and the FRS to an F1 car.
>>15072193
>my reasoning being revealed as obviously flawed is just a strawman :^((((
>>15072471
>my car is faster even if its slower around a track :^(((((((((((
Look on the bright side, you're not in a Miata.
>>15072471
....you do realize the FRS is actually faster around many tracks with non prius tires, right
put potenza re070s on both and the FRS is a second faster around laguna seca
>>15072471
Was that the last straw, ... man?
>>15072489
Which track? Your cherry picked twisty course that favors your car?
>>15072482
>my reasoning being revealed
You didn't reveal any reasoning of mine. I have clearly stated my own reasoning.
>>15072489
>my car is faster even though it's slower :^(((((((((((
It works both ways. But it doesn't matter, because the Mustang is faster in a straight line and around the track
You're arguing points that do not apply in any way to the conversation and trying to tell me that my point is something other than what it is so that you have one single thing you can argue against, even if you made it up and it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
>>15072503
Laguna Seca isnt a real racetrack. No FIA sanctioned events happen there.
Only scrubs who want to pretend heir slow car is fast think its a real racetrack.
>>15072549
>Laguna Seca isnt a real racetrack.
Any track that doesn't favor your favourite car isn't a real racetrack, right anon?
>>15072549
>Hating the corkscrew
Get a load of this tard bucket.
>>15072503
>you do realize the FRS is actually faster around many tracks with non prius tires, right
And the Mustang is even faster with slicks and a V8.
If you want to get into the potential of the vehicle, throw a boosted 5.3 LS in a Miata and take out there.
The simple fact of the matter is that you can not conceivably call the FRS a better car without cherrypicking specific configurations at specific tracks. If I cherrypick stock Mustang configuration (which by the way is still stock unlike your cherrypicked FRS configuration, the GT500 gets around Willow Springs in 1:23.48.
>non prius tires
They're not "Prius tires" They were not designed specifically for the Prius. They're available as an option on the Prius in Europe if and only if you also have the optional upgraded wheels.
This is just an exaggeration used as a pathetic excuse for the car's poor performance. If you want to call them Prius tires then that just furthers the evidence of sacrificing performance for economy because the designers could not decide what kind of car they wanted to design.
>>15072588
>spending 500 extra on new tires vs spending $20k to upgrade to GT plus trackpack
:^)
>>15072613
>moving the goalposts in every single post
>thread devolves into literally the worst benchracing I've seen on /o/ in weeks
>>15072580
>>15072587
There are only two racetracks worth mentioning - Willow Springs and Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Other racetracks are for posers with cars that are compromised from the purpose of going fast
>>15072633
Have you actually been on /o/ at any other point during these weeks
>>15072613
>spending $20k to upgrade to GT plus trackpack
Where are you getting these numbers? GT is $8250 and the performance pakcage for the GT is $2495. Additionally you're choosing to leave out that the Mustang starts at $1955 less than the FRS and $2045 less than the BRZ.
Or you could spend $5k on an LS Miata
It doesn't matter how you cut it. No matter what you're looking for, something does it better than the FRS.
>>15072681
>something does it better than the FRS
Reliant Robin. Is better at rolling over.
>>15072698
But not at sliding into trees. FRS might actually be able to compete with the Mustang here if you figure per capita.
>>15072731
Only because the Robin wouldn't be able to make it to the treeline before snap oversteering into a pebble and causing it to do more barrel rolls than are in Star Fox 64.
>>15070999
>implying you actually have a turbo
>>15072173
F1 are around 2.4-2.5 0-60 aren't they?
Stock street literbikes do that. MotoGP bikes have about 25% more power, weigh less and have a ton of electronics to make the power more usable.
F1 are MUCH faster in corners but the shear acceleration of those MotoGP bikes is phenomenal.
>tfw the FR-S isn't any faster than my Outback XT
>>15072810
Garrett GT3076R and blow me
Oh look, it's this thread again.
Cry about it
>>15072876
Why do people get the make or model of the car on a vanity plate? Does anyone actually think this is cool aside from the owner?
>>15072917
Maybe people kept asking him what kind of car it was?
>>15072867
W-was that a pun?
Because either way, mad me chuckle a little.
>>15072876
nice mustang
>>15070931
Have you been to an autocross event? They usually do very VERY well for their class.
>>15073004
and so could a mustang
>>15073037
Not everyone wants a mustang anon.
>>15073037
Mustangs generally spin out a lot more or get worse times from the ones I've been to (including the new mustangs). And there's generally just as many FRSs as mustangs in those events btw.
>>15073060
I wonder if it's due to the mustang being 800-1000lbs heavier?
Besides, anyone who picks a new mustang over an alpha camaro is retarded.
>>15071368
Throw away the dorito tires and it is a blast any time any place. It's a miata with a back seat. Stay mad.
>>15071445
I love my pickup and brz.
I enjoyed my 15 brz. Like everyone knows here, it is kinda slow. It depends on where you live though. If I lived in the city is outdated have bought it. I live in the most under populated country west of the cascades in WA. Up hill down hill sharp left straight sharp right up hill etc. it WAS fun, keeping Rpms above 5k and taking corners decently well at speeds most cars get allot of roll.
In my year of ownership only a 350z on i5 tried to race me, he had a fart cannon and Lockheed Martin wing. That was it.
Like I said, I think it really depends on your environment if you'd get the most out of these cars on the daily.
>>15070918
because you could have had a v8 mustang for 10% more
>>15073122
the mustang has less body roll than the frs
>>15073122
Doubt I would have bought it.*
County not country *
Thanks apple.
>>15073132
I've never driven a mustang so.
>>15073054
Why would you not want an objectively better car in EVERY SINGLE WAY?
>>15073123
ITT: everyone should own mustangs
>>15073154
I'd love a new mustang. Even if it was just a V6.
>>15073154
nice fusion bro
>>15073143
Why don't we all just own v8 minivans. Practical room, quick enough in a straight line..
>>15073143
Because the subjective matters too.
>>15072040
2seconds is a ton, but its totally different on summers than all seasons. The all seasons are dangerous and unpredictable. Summer tires make the car a real blast.
>>15073166
Wow, you can't even afford a v6 mustang? I'm sorry
>>15073154
Mustangs are shit, but for most they're a better option than the FRS.
Not that that's saying much. Given it's pricing and standard equipment the FRS is a failure of a car and is a terrible buy.
With a little more power, more traction, and more weight over the drive wheels for a few thousand less it could have been an actual competitor.
>>15073078
That, and that it doesn't take much gas in the v8s to completely lose control. But mustangs seemed to roll more or needed brakes a lot more often. The BRZs/FRSs were generally a lot more composed assuming they were running similar tires.
>>15073188
no but even if I could I'd buy something else
my point was I consider a V6 mustang an improvement over my shitbox whereas a Toyobaru is at best a sidegrade
>>15073188
such is life for yurocucks
>>15073189
The 86 isn't a car for the masses. It was created for a small market, and it's selling decently well taking this into consideration.
>>15073207
Fair enough.
Be honest though, have you driven both cars?
If you have a brz you will need tires eventually, and when you do if you care about your car you buy summer tires. This bit of maintenance is the single biggest improvement on the car you could ever make.
>>15073004 I know someone who has a '13 5.0 GT track pack and with my burnt Prius tires against his mustang on p-zero at autocross I out perform him regularly. With summer tires vs summer tires I out perform Nissan 370z nismos if the driver is as experienced as I am. It will out autocross modified civic si's. It's a fun car.
>>15073222
I'm well aware of this. Considering it's target market is weeb benchracer AE86 fanboys that have their parents buy them cars it's amazing they've sold enough to keep producing them for this long. I suppose the money they spent on advertising and paying "reviewers" was well spent. It's astonishing what a good marketing campaign can do skew how the public views something.
>>15073360
I'm willing to wager that:
I'm older than you
I've owned more cars than you
I make more money than you
And I drive an 86. Sorry to break the stereotype senpai.
>>15073332
Perhaps. Most turbo civics in the continental divide division usually blow everything out except modified STis or open wheel cars.
However, an 86 with similar modification would probably kill those civics. That's why it's so fun. You never know what to expect lol.
>>15073360
Wtf are you talking about? Ive never met a brz or frs driver under 24.
>>15073417
I'm willing to wager that:
Your picture has been posted in a cringe thread
You were far more accustomed to "yes honey" growing up than "no"
You make up falsehoods about yourself and your history with automobiles and think it's justified if you're "proving a point" that you believe in
You make up bullshit reasons as to why your favorite anime or MLP is better than than whatever someone else watches
You think your feelings are important
You support Sanders
You think Trump is racist and sexist
You use Reddit
You've considered sucking dick or letting a man fuck you in the ass
You're going to try and deny all of this even if it's true
>>15073562
>all of this projecting
it's okay anon
mom will give back your GBP so you can get more tendies
ITT:
Delusional children try to convince 4chan that the FRS is owned exclusively by young men that take them to track days with bald stock tires and destroy everyone regardless of the published statistics from multiple reputable sources reporting below par performance in absolutely every regard
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you: Mindless Fanboys
Tune in to 4chacn on Mondays at 8/7c
>>15073629
So it's projecting when someone else does it?
>>15073648
you're the only one ascribing qualities to other people, anon :)
>>15073668
These two posts
>>15073562
>>15073417
Are doing the same thing and are not by the same person.
Correct?
>>15073630
Baseless faggot extraordinare alert.
Why don't you just jump into traffic from your bus window, faggot.
>>15072917
Better question is why someone would get the scion badge. They're literally the same car, only even people without any knowledge of how shitty the frs is, know that scion is trash
>>15073730
Why are you posting a Colorado SCCA autocross at PPIR?
>>15073528
Not who you're replying to, but the only frs owner I know is a 22 year old girl who thinks she's super knowledgeable about cars
>>15071130
You rock
>>15073562
You couldn't be further from the truth
>>15073741
I prefer the 86 bumper to the brz
>>15073756
Why are you posting on oddly specific question that wasnt quite relataled to the topic (lol) of the post? What do you want next? EXIF data? Do you want attention?
>>15073730
>>15073756
>>15073823
#44 McLaren driver: Jess Driggers
>>15073823
This matches with the filename.
>https://www.rmsolo.org/msp_eventpts_v2.php?rep=1_20160515SS
They ran an even down there on Sunday. Jess did alright, I guess.
>>15073730
>dat aero
>>15073864
Running 50s for that day was actually pretty good. I expected more from a Maclaren, but it was still fun to watch.
Don't know why these guys have a hard on for playing detective. It's public info.
>>15070918
>caring what people think
>/o/ is full of neckbeards that cant afford new car
enjoy your car man. if you like it, drive it.
her
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>>15073174
>Why don't we all just own v8 minivans
Who makes one?
>>15071299
This. "Luxury street" is the perfect why to describe it.
That being said, you're better off saving $5k more and getting a WRX.
I bought mine a good 3 months ago, and I Fucking love the car! I'm not trying to be the fastest around but it's a great DD that you can also have fun in.
Now I'll be honest I was looking for and S2K but when I researched more into the frs I fell for it.
(that and the only s2k in a 400mile area is my fathers)
>the best part about owning a car is knowing that If YOU love it, that's all that matters.
I know it's a meme auto but it's affordable (to me) and enjoyable'
>pic related
>>15071929
How much of a fucking retarded newfag do you have to be to keep replying to these fastestlaps comparisons?
>>15070918
People who talk shit on Toyobarus are jealous poorfags who talk themselves into pretending their 10 year old shit box is a better value.
![7yoWV7v[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SrE5rns.jpg "7yoWV7v[1].jpg")
Why do FR-S guys care so much about what other people think about their car?
Just keep driving it, you're gonna have to pay it off anyway after you signed that shit. Or trade it in.
Who gives a fuck?
>>15072092
Torque steer kills the FoST for me. I drove my buddy's for a week and it got rid of any desire I had to buy that car.
I'll take my lower power RWD over torque steering off the road every time I touch the gas in a corner any day.
>>15076008
Why not an STi?
>>15071130
I think it does its job well. It's a cheap sports car. You're not going to get a Lamborghini for $23,000. Why are you expecting so much? For the money it does a pretty decent job. Hell, I don't even like the FRS but I wouldn't bash it as hard as you are. It's a Celica. A cheap, economical, majorly entry level sports car. It's not a bad car.
>>15076792
If you haven't noticed, it's all shitposting
OP is the same person that's shitted up the thread with the '5 hours daily driving' and 'skid pad Gs'
>>15076792
>why do frs guys post in a frs thread?
>>15076841
It's a sports car for people who don't know anything about cars, so people who actually know shit will laugh at you for it. Also, for a couple grand more you can get a 370z, so really you're an idiot if you buy a FRS
>also dat renault shilling captcha
>>15076985
Why would you buy a 370z when you could buy a c6 corvette instead?
>>15076841
>It's a cheap sports car.
Except it's not a sports car in stock form. It has the potential to be, sure. But so do most other cars.
If I wanted an underpowered sports car for under $30k, a Lotus Esprit would fit the bill better.
>You're not going to get a Lamborghini for $23,000
However you can easily buy a C5 Corvette, throw a turbo on it, a car trailer, and a fully loaded 3/4 ton SUV to pull said turbo Corvette on said trailer.
>>15077026
So by your logic a miata isn't a sports car either?
>>15077232
>80hp
>sports car
Pick one and only one.
OP should of shelled out 5 more Gs for a respectable V6 like a 370Z
>>15078061
>v6
>respectable
>>15078118
Are you seriously the kind of person who writes off entire cars because of an engine layout? Not saying that guy's 100% right, but c'mon.
>>15078061
>constantly bumping your own day old shitpost
anon...
>>15078118
moreso than a boxer 4 in a sports car
>>15078118
>MUH V8
murricuck pls
>>15071948
Stripped out plastic piece of shit rice rocket beats a daily driven landbarge by a second
Congrats
>>15078132
I'd rather have a boxer4 that weighs 2775 lbs than a v6 Z that weighs 3375lbs. It weighs more than a corvette, yet doesn't make as much power.
![781287253_942897b0b1_o[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AhKCInz.jpg "781287253_942897b0b1_o[1].jpg")
>>15078157
nice butthurt, cuck
>stripped
a civic type r from the 90's isnt your mom on the weekends, it has all the clothes on
nigga why you getting so mad
>>15078190
ricers have been perma mad ever since the corvette raped the gt-r on every track ever
>>15076760
>those stickers
>>15078137
>one is road legal, one is not
>one is daily driveable, one is not
>one can hold a passenger, the other can't
>one can be driven in the rain, the other cant
>one has an interior, the other has NOTHING
Am I missing something here or does the lotus 3 eleven sound like the biggest piece of shit in UK automotive history?
>>15078204
>Things that never happened
Making up stories is a new fangirl tactic?
>>15078246
Why would you respond to a fastestlaps post? >>15078118 is an idiot but responding to that garbage doesn't help.
>Tfw fell for the frs meme
Is 26 too old for a car like this?
>>15075938
Well... it's not V8...But the Honda Oddysey wasn't ludicrously fast for a van?
>>15070918
>Cheap
there are a large number of cars out there that are cheaper and would give the same or better experience/ lap time for less including but not limited to a turboed Supra, 300zx, Skyline or Silvia.
>>15081062
Yes. Just say you wanted the best econobox out there and you'll be cool in my book.
>>15081416
FOR REAL why do people buy a new car then say it was because it was cheap? there are infinitely better used cars out there for MUCH less
>>15070918
Because you bought a car that is targeted for teens... you want power, but the car doesn't even offer a v6. It has a terrible interior for the price, and the "rwd and cheap" part can be a fucking GT from 06.
Therefore, they're not laughing AT YOU... they're laughing at the decision you made.
>>15084872
This garbage bait thread had zero posts for 11 hours and was on page 10. Gj bumping. "Cheap rwd" is a favored phrase of one of our resident shitposters, that should have tipped you off
>>15084881
>>15084872
it is literally the same OP shitposter bumping his thread
just stop replying
>>15070918
>buy a frs because its rwd and cheap
RWD is useless without power.
The FRS isn't cheap.
That's why they're laughing at you.
