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So, from today the reviewers and magazines who have tested the new Alfa Romeo Giulia are releasing their reviews.
Be ready, the moment has come.
Also: post your ideal Giulia from the car configurator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEB-mORtvFc
For whatever the fuck reason this link at the moment is not working.
http://www.alvolante.it/primo_contatto/alfa-romeo-giulia
>0-100 for the 2.2 180 hp in 7.1 sec
![001-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio_0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/36MwyRo.jpg "001-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio_0[1].jpg")
EVO UK
>Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio review - Alfa's best car for years
http://www.evo.co.uk/alfa-romeo/giulia/17702/alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-review-alfas-best-car-for-years
![alfa01[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7s9vCs1.jpg "alfa01[1].jpg")
CAR
>A four-door Ferrari? You'd better believe it
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/alfa-romeo/alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-2016-review/
FCA a shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNEjCiNM0sE
>>15024322
>Evo
>5 stars
>Finally, an Alfa Romeo that lives up to the hype - we're eagerly looking forward to trying Alfa's new super saloon in the UK
THERE ARE ALL EXCUSES IN THE WORLD TO BE MAD TROLLERINO
can you teach me how to shill?
![alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-primo-contatto_07[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zJpaWqu.jpg "alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-primo-contatto_07[1].jpg")
http://www.alvolante.it/primo_contatto/alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio
>>15024331
>can you teach me how not to be buttmad?
FTFY
![dsc_3623[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kTTD4NO.jpg "dsc_3623[1].jpg")
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/alfa-romeo/giulia/95477/new-alfa-romeo-giulia-2016-review
>The Giulia is a refreshing and stylish new entry into the highly competitive executive saloon sector. Its vital statistics match its main German rivals’ in all the key areas, while the car’s rear-wheel-drive platform and 50:50 weight balance also make it enjoyable to drive. It’s good to finally have a really credible option from the historic and very fashionable Italian brand. If you’ve always thought you should own an Alfa Romeo at least once in your life, the new Giulia could be the one to go for.
![_89y6337[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3qLICpe.jpg "_89y6337[1].jpg")
TOP GEAR
http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/alfa-romeo/qv-4dr/first-drive
>My practical side would say BMW because it’s a known quantity, but I reckon there’s a strong case for the Giulia being better to drive.
>there’s a strong case for the Giulia being better to drive.
AYY LMAO
![alfa-qv-web-2016-106_0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DhslI4X.jpg "alfa-qv-web-2016-106_0[1].jpg")
AUTOCAR
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/alfa-romeo/giulia/first-drives/2016-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-first-drive
looks like a cheap BMW from 5 years ago.
>>15024403
Could you at least cry without calling the bmw in?
>cheap
The posted reviews don't agree with your faggottry
>>15024403
BTFO!
More videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay8I8XYZz1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fPVrC73c6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLPeulZfJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b8n7Vlra-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8kOpYbPRoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gZt4DpN_cU
![10514786_817525288271092_1857888172_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/owwmBST.jpg "10514786_817525288271092_1857888172_n[1].jpg")
>>15024274
MY DICK IS PLEASED
>>15024274
I'm actually considering to sell my 3 Series for a new Giulia 2.2 180 hp.
This is the one I want.
hhnnggh
![027-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio.jpg.c8cc83a53752c1aaafa03aa61de908f6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lqbrSPp.jpg "027-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio.jpg.c8cc83a53752c1aaafa03aa61de908f6[1].jpg")
>>15024307
Have you noticed that they're driving an automatic Quadrifoglio?
>>15024419
I don't like the looks but it sounds mesmerizing
I'm missing two things:
>a 300 to 400hp engine to match the C43/S4/335
>a wagon
>>15024530
The QV will probably offer both the 6 speed manual now, and later that ZF 8 speed as well.
>>15024556
Also, I'm still wondering if they could fit the Hellcat into there.
>>15024556
It will come anon, a biturbo 2.0 petrol engine in that power range.
The wagon won't be made because it's not profitable, instead they're releasing the Stelvio Suv later this year.
As for the gearboxes, the Giulia Q will be offered with 3 choices: manual, automatic ZF and double clutch.
>>15024569
>a biturbo 2.0 petrol engine
Inline four or V^? Any sources?
>manual, automatic ZF and double clutch.
Why offer two different automatic gearboxes, when the ZF fits and works?
>>15024530
Manual not being released in the UK at the moment
I can't wait to see how it "kills" BMW
>never forget the ATS
>another /o/-approved "BMW KILLER"
>>15024577
4 inline, it's the same 2.0 tbi pushed to 330 hp.
It has to be announced but it will come.
>>15024592
Except this time the posted reviews are saying that this Giulia buttfucks the Bmw, so...
>The interior of the Alfa doesn’t have quite the quality of an Audi
Dropped
>>15024594
They said the same thing about the ATS-V, friend.
>>15024592
Also the Lexus IS is better than the shit series.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/reviews/a5213/the-comparison-65-3-roa1013/
Bmw is now producing generic cars, you have to accept its decline.
>>15024592
Except this time the Giulia is not a Cadillac piece of junk but a real car built by someone who knows what it does.
>>15024598
So neither has a 3 series...that's not the point.
You can't have both a top notch interior and superb driving quality for a competitive price.
Proof is that the Audi A4 is FWD, understeer like a charm, but MUH INTERIOR.
GTFO
>>15024598
>not even audi quality
lmao, sounds like complete shit
>>15024606
>who knows what it does
Except Alfa hasn't made good cars for decades now. We'll see if they still know how to make a good one or more importantly: we'll see if the people who could afford one will think they have made a good one
>>15024411
>implying critical car reviews exist
are you 12?
>>15024616
>Samefagging this hard
If you consider the Audi to be better than the Alfa based on interior quality over how it rides and over its mechanical supremacy, well...what the fuck are you doing on this board?
Go back to school.
>>15024604
Except people would still rather have a 3 or 5 series than a Lexus or an Alfa.
>>15024613
You can have a Quattro A4 which has superior driving quality on all conditions on regular roads.
I'd very much prefer that to a car that is totally superior on a smooth track with loads of space to fool around on but feels shit on the open road.
>>15024625
are you shilling for free?
>>15024625
>he still believes in the driving dynamics meme
Please tell me about how you're gonna enjoy the Alfa's superior handling and mechanical supremacy while sharing the road with a billion other people forcing you to go slow and drive carefully.
This meme cannot die quickly enough. There is no way to really experience even 1 percent of what the Alfa or any other car like it have to offer on normal open roads.
In a world of speed limits, bumpy roads, idiot drivers everywhere, traffic jams etc. the comfy AWD Audi clearly reigns supreme over any "sporty" car
what a sad sad thread
>>15024298
Looks like a 3 series with jag front and rear.
>>15024563
>hey man, lets take out a ferrari developed engine and put a murrican engine in there
No.
>>15024653
Why do you need AWD at 50km/h?
Buying an italian sports sedan is like getting the british hooker in a czech brothel. It just doesn't make sense.
>>15024691
Back here in Germany we actually are free to go as fast as we want. On the Autobahn at least
>>15024691
going around really tight corners
New 3 series look gud boi
>>15024703
Then the same applies. Doesn't matter if it is AWD or RWD or FWD even.
If you wanna shill something, at least go with Merc or BMW, not with the blandest german brand.
>>15024710
Have you heard about good tyres?
You audifags grasp to AWD because there's literally nothing that Audi does better than the rivals.
BMW has it beat on driving dynamics and Mercedes in straight up luxury.
And it seems that Alfa just has better driving dynamics than a M3 (which is saying a lot) so you're just assravaged about it.
>>15024730
>Doesn't matter if it is AWD or RWD or FWD even.
I invite you to come to Germany and test drive anything non-german at its top speed on the Autobahn.
You simply don't know what you're talking about when it comes to german cars until you have done that.
Forget about your little "driving dynamics" meme btw and see >>15024653
>>15024738
From what the reviews say, the Giulia is pretty stable. at speed.
Plus, you don't need the Autobahn to test cars at their top speed.
Even where I live there are lots and lots of sections where you can do that.
This isn't 1980. Even my puny 1.3 diesel does 200km/h stably.
Germans do know how to build a car, but saying other european countries can't just denotes ignorance.
>>15024730
>being this mad
I never even owned an audi. AWD is useful though.
>>15024780
Never said it isn't useful, but it certainly isn't a requirement in a straight line.
If you're worried about stability at speed there are lots of driving nannies that can help you with that.
>>15024784
>>15024775
>but it certainly isn't a requirement in a straight line.
It certainly isn't. Just like having padded seats certainly isn't a requirement. You could just as well sit on a wooden bench.
What you don't understand is that it isn't about "requirement". If you're gonna bomb down the Autobahn at 250km/h an hour you want your car to be as stable as possible.
An AWD car feels like you're on tracks and that inspires confidence. You simply feel better.
>>15024806
Again, this isn't 1980.
Electronic nannies give you that confidence, even if you don't have AWD.
How much is this thing gonna cost, and anyone got the MPG for all of the different engine types?
Imo all the current Alfa's are fucking ugly so when I saw this thread I didn't even bother to check the picture, accidently missclicked it and its fucking beautiful.
If the price and MPG is good, I'd take this over a new C-Class or 3 series.
>>15024819
I'd rather put my trust into a mechanical AWD system
>>15024887
Ultimately, your straight line stability will depend on good tyres and not in your drivetrain.
If you have shit tyres even an AWD system won't save you if something goes wrong.
>>15024901
No, you're misunderstanding. At high speeds FWD and RWD drivetrains tend to "wobble" a bit every now and then. They don't track straight nearly a well as an AWD car does. Imagine you're going over a bridge at 250km/h and get hit by wind from the side. The effect is very different from RWD to FWD to AWD.
Tires are always important of course, no doubt about that. But you can't really have ultra shit tires on your car in Germany since you are only allowed to put manufacturer approved sizes on your car and they have to have at least minimum profile depth etc. or your car will be taken off the streets immediately pretty much (if you run into a police control of course but generally nobody even thinks of risking it)
Oh hey! It's the "let's shill the giulia again" thread!
sage.
The only thing I will admit is that it has potential performance wise, and alfa was smart enough to realise that they don't have the luxury of failing, but I'm not a fan of the looks to be honest. But seriously dude calm down with the shilling.
>>15024873
The first review for the AT 2.2 180hp says:
>Average: 17,5 km/l
>City: 15,2 km/l
>Outside: 20,2 km/l
>Highway: 16,3 km/l
The Giulia will come also in AWD configuration
Only thing im worried about is reliability and steering feel. Fca cant do either of those.
>>15024922
at incredible hihg speed a flat undertray is more use than awd.
awd is useful for accelerating out of tight corners and driving in bad weather and that's it.
>>15024968
Meh, thats good but nothing spectacular.
I was browsing on my phone earlier today and saw on a random site something about 69MPG (17.5km/l = 49mpg)
Hows the interior though? Is the sat nav and shit good or broken?
>>15024990
Not only the reliability meme but also another galactic bullshit on the steering feel.
Nice.
Read the fuckin reviews you useless piece of shit, they're praising it...dumb fuck, next time check before talk.
>>15025019
the shitalian shill is getting mad. you can stick your meme reviews up your ass, kid.
>>15024994
The interior comes from faurecia, the same maker of plastics and panels of german cars.
The sat nav comes from magneti Marelli, the very same italian company which makes infotainment for bmw, also every headlights of Audi (which they claim is their Technology ayy lmao).
There's nothing I can complain about because, as I previously stated, you can't have a top tier mechanic and at the same time Perfect interior for the same price as competitors.
Compared to bmw 3 Series the car is slightly better, of course compared with Audi or Lexus is less refined but the quality is Premium.
>>15025019
I was serious, my 2015 charger is a pile of shit, i want this new guilia but i want to make sure chrysler didnt stick its tiny dick in it.
>>15025033
Is this the next level on the butthurt scale?
>shill reviews
English reviews, not Italian which may be patriotic about the product (I assure you that's not the case as italian car magazines are entirely submissive to german Money), also autocar who is renowned to shill vags...
It must suck to be you anon
>>15025047
The Charger is not an Italian car only because Chrysler is inside the FCA orbit.
The steering is fine in the Giulia, for the reliability nobody knows at the time.
Today Alfa Romeo are reliable, especially the engines.
>in b4 consumer reports charts and similar shit
https://twitter.com/evomagazine/status/730012718409854977/video/1
>That sound
>>15025068
Consumer reports a shit, especially american ones.
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
Fiat and Alfa are pretty reliable nowadays.
>>15025068
The dart was based off of an alfa and it was shit in terms of reliability. How can we expect different this time? we just have to wait and see.
>>15025147
The Giulietta, Bravo and Delta are pretty reliable.
Seems to me, it's either you murricans that can't put together a car or you just can't use it properly.
>>15025134
>35. Alfa Romeo
>pretty """""""""""""""""reliable""""""""""""""""""""" nowadays
>>15025152
So are the Fiat 500, 500L, 500X and abarths.
>>15025152
Theres plenty of reliable american cars. The problem is FCA
>>15025167
The only thing reliable about the 500 is the engine. Its everything else that breaks
>>15025165
>http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
Choose "ENGINE" from the list and click Change.
>12. Fiat
>21. Alfa Romeo
>30. Volkswagen
>33. BMW
>37. Audi
Sorry, what were you saying?
>>15025134
>11. Renault
into the trash it goes
>>15025165
Those take into account older Alfas, too.
>>15025168
Nah, the problem is Chrysler. You murricans can't put together cars. End of.
>>15025173
It's funny because the 500 is the most reliable Fiat in Europe.
Maybe because not knowing how the A/C works counts as a reliability issue for american """"""""""""""""""""consumer reports"""""""""""""""""""".
>>15025180
Pretty much this. Even when Fiats and Alfas had issues in the 80s/90s, the engines were still bulletproof.
>>15025188
That chart is factual, it's not based on opinions or reports.
>>15025134
>Mini more reliable than Volvo
>Skoda far more reliable than VW
plausible. who comes up with these retarded rankings, they're ridiculous.
>>15025199
Who told you Volvo was reliable? lol
And yeah, Skoda tends to be more reliable than VW because they use older improved technology in those cars.
>>15025188
Renault is renowned for electrical problems and what a surprise in the tab "Electrical" here
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
>6. Jeep
>9. Volkswagen
>11. Alfa Romeo
>15. Fiat
>25. BMW
>26. Audi
>31. Mercedes-Benz
>36. Renault
When the meme is so stronger than reality that it hurts.
>>15025199
>Skoda, Volkswagen, Audi and Seat reliable
Have you forgotten the dieselgate?
VAG should fail and close for great justice...
>>15025221
>americans face european reliability indexes
I bet you're one of those anons that constantly says BMW, Audi and Mercedes are unreliable.
>falling for FCA meme
>>15025196
The 500s we get are built in mexico. Europes 500s are built in poland. Ill say agin FCA is the problem. Lowest bidder for suppliers even if they cant make the part right. I know, unfortunately i work for them.
>>15025244
>not enough cup holders
>cup holders not big enough
>driver seat is too tight for average american ass size
Yup, that's a problem.
>>15025262
sure bro
>>15025271
So, according to the chart you posted do you agree that Bmw and Audi are unreliable pieces of shit?
![eg1c2828[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kyrx6vp.jpg "eg1c2828[1].jpg")
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/2017-alfa-romeo-giulia-first-drive-review/
![Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-2016-Fahrbericht-1200x800-20ceeb90bd0224ee[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7TLHM1x.jpg "Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-2016-Fahrbericht-1200x800-20ceeb90bd0224ee[1].jpg")
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/alfa-romeo-giulia-2016-fahrbericht-6058973.html
>See this thread
>curious
>look at engine options
>2.0L Turbo w/ 276 HP
>wat. FCA didn't have a 2.0L Turbo I4 before this...
>look into engine.
>it's a turbocharged variant of the 150 HP 2.0L in the absolute base model Dodge Dart
Wasn't FCA going to call this 2.0L Turbo the Hurricane engine?
>>15025307
What the fuck are you saying??
All the engines are new and entirely made of aluminium.
>being this retarded
>>15025253
What's wrong with cars being built in Poland? My Punto was built in Poland and never had any issue.
>>15025302
>Germans saying the car is amazing
>German commenters agree
Is this a dream
>>15025336
Germans have a hard on for italian cars, don't you know that?
>>15025331
Don't forget that you're talking with a person whose country will soon be ruled by a professional racist and piece of shit.
>>15025317
>What the fuck are you saying??
It's a 2.0L Tigersharl Turbo
>All the engines are new and entirely made of aluminium.
not entirely new. The V6's are from Ferrari and heavily related to the twin turbo V6's of the Ferrari California.
The 2.0L is a turbo variant of the Tigershark I4. The Tigersharks have always been all aluminum retard. You'll be hard pressed to find any petrol engine that isn't all aluminum.
The variants used in the Giulia are new, yes, but they are all from well established engine families. The 4 banger is a turbocharged Dodge Dart engine. The V6 is a twin turbo Ferrari engine.
>>15025342
Yeah I know but I never heard that they consider an Italian car superior.
>>15025351
I do
FCA>VW
>>15025351
And they're probably the ones who'll buy more Giulias in Europe.
>>15024591
Where does this say this?
Fiat make this a reality, pls.
>>15025346
No, they're not tigershark engines. Period.
FCA GME engines, totally new with direct injection, multiair II, turbo twin scroll, start & stop, etc..
>>15025346
It's not the hurricane, FCA develops a new engine family, to substitute WGE derived Chrysler engines, and family b ("Pratola Serra") Fiat Powertrain and Alfa Romeo engines, this engine family is called GME, Global Medium Engine.
The Alfa L4 is the first of this family, will share about the 70% of the components with other applications of the GME family, but about 30% of the components are Alfa specific, the engine block will be common, but the head will be Alfa specific and modular to the new Alfa 2.9lt V6, which is modular to the Ferrari F154 V8 engine family and to be more precise the F154 BB version used by Ferrari California T.
The new Alfa L4 is the first engine to combine electro-hydraulic variable valve actuation(MultiAir 2) with Direct Injection.
It's probable that Chrysler in future use the name hurricane for the generic version of the turbocharged GME, but this hurricane has nothing to do with the original WGE derived hurricane, this one is all new and part of the new FCA's GME family.
>>15025389
I would much rather they release a new GTV as one of their unrevealed cars and rally spec that one.
>>15025428
They'll probably release a new GT/GTV in the same platform, since they're planning on release a new Giulietta too.
>>15025412
Thanks for the explanation. The reason I asked about the Hurricane is Chrysler said a 2.0L turbo I4 called the Hurricane engine was what would power the new Dart SRT4 or GLH or whatever they decide to call it.
>>15025288
>There are better-mannered, better-appointed and better-finished cars in which to cover a high-mileage commute, which is what executive saloons are typically used for, so we wouldn’t imagine the Giulia will tempt too many drivers out of their plush C-Classes or A4s.
>The competitors are well refined so therefore must suits better high mileages
DAFUQ?
Usual biased WhatCar...garbage.
![S7-Sergio-Marchionne-veut-une-nouvelle-acquisition-avant-de-partir-102065[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Hf7uKxk.jpg "S7-Sergio-Marchionne-veut-une-nouvelle-acquisition-avant-de-partir-102065[1].jpg")
MARCHIONNE ON FIRE
http://www.quattroruote.it/news/novita/2016/05/10/alfa_romeo_giulia_tutte_le_informazioni_sulla_gamma.html
>Sfida alle tedesche. A Balocco è intervenuto anche Sergio Marchionne. "Sono contento perché siamo partiti da zero e guardate dove siamo arrivati", ha detto il numero uno di FCA. "Ha un motore pazzesco. Dal punto di vista tecnico, questa è la migliore espressione di quel che siamo capaci di fare. Non ci sono concorrenti, neanche le tedesche. Qualcuno ha detto la BMW. Portatela qui, la guidiamo in pista e vediamo. Non ho dubbi sul successo della Giulia"
reminds me of the good ol' Ford shill threads
![2016-ARGiuliaQV-41[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/H55rNar.jpg "2016-ARGiuliaQV-41[1].jpg")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuedTaMcSGQ
>>15024604
How is the Lexus better than the BMW? Objectively? Just curious
>>15025592
build quality and reliability
>>15025599
Reliablity? Maybe
Build quality? Not really
>>15025615
We live on planet earth, not in your world anon.
![3_4_ar_stat_essai_g[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SJMVD7q.jpg "3_4_ar_stat_essai_g[1].jpg")
http://www.automobile-magazine.fr/essais/alfa_romeo/alfa_romeo_giulia_2_2_jtdm_180_auto_super
![Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-QV-Quadrifoglio-Fahrbericht-articleDetail-5860f0e7-946233[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Jn1tfBE.jpg "Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-QV-Quadrifoglio-Fahrbericht-articleDetail-5860f0e7-946233[1].jpg")
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/fahrberichte/alfa-romeo-giulia-qv-fahrbericht-2016-11173721.html
When this beauty will come to usa?
>>15024684
>>hey man, lets take out a ferrari developed engine and put a cheaper, more powerful in there for shock value
YES - although it'd probably fit better in the future Alfetta (think 5 series/E class/ A6 sized)
>>15024505
Astonishing.
>>15025810
Alfas ain't about shock value, they're about refinement.
Except the 147 GTA, I guess.
>>15025707
god this thing is ugly
>>15024604
Please fuck off with your toyota blandbarges.
>>15025997
Are you jelly because you're poor, punto multi-faggot?
>>15026035
Jelly of used oldmen Lexuses? lol
If I had the money I would never ever buy that piece of japanese blandness.
2.2 180 hp AT
>1445 kg (1375 kg for manual version)
![1462887104065[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YEodEdm.jpg "1462887104065[2].jpg")
dat sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h40NIY26Mg8
