I finally did it /o/. I bought a 2014 frs stock with 20k miles for 21k and the guy who sold it to me said if I ever needed repairs he would give me 10% off. This car is fast as fuck and im glad you guys recommended it to me. Did I do good /o/?
It depends. What transmission?
nice bait
Ignore my dad in the BG
>frs
>fast
Obvious bait
>>14981469
i love this bait
but if it isant, nice job and i hope you enjoy it. I just got a 16 frs and i'm having a banging time with it
>>14981473
Manual of course
>>14981476
How is this bait?
Congrats on paying $21k for a 2 year old car with prius tires just to squeal them and being slower than Grandma in her Buick.
>>14981469
>if I ever needed repairs he would give me 10% off
Does this guy own a shop or just work for one? If he just works at a shop you got hustled on that bit.
200 HP is fast?
>>14981479
>>14981484
How is this bait? I use to drive a 96 civic so whats fast to me may not be fast to you
21k is way overpriced for that car. Do you buy things without consulting book value?
>>14981497
He owns a shop and has like 3 employees
>>14981495
Its not slow to me and whats wrong with the tires?
>>14981522
Its top of the line with heated seats, its not the basic model. Last pic
>if I ever needed repairs he would give me 10% off
>>14981508
All I can say is that I hope you enjoy your purchase OP. I'm not going to shit on you. Just know that you spent 21k on a car with less than 190hp at the wheels, and you are calling it
>fast as fuck
That is all
>>14981527
They're low resistance tires to make you feel like you can drift.
Cool car but do you have any detailing products to keep it real nice and also clean?
>>14981553
>>14981559
>>14981540
You guys are shitting on my parade
>>14981535
>paying extra for meme features
Lemme guess, it has navigation with three year old maps too.
>>14981553
Bringing up wheel vs brake hp in an attempt to make a car seem slower is an illogical argument. All cars have drivetrain losses. Mathematically speaking, cars with low power lose fewer horses than high-powered ones. So you don't really have an argument.
good job OP, im thinking about buying one pretty soon. gonna go on some test drives after classes end. also how much did you pay for the car, the ones in my area are around 18k with less than 30k miles on them
>>14981589
It has 200hp at the engine. 190hp at the wheels was trying to be nice.
op enjoy your car, congratulations
lots of jealous bus riders in this thread
>>14981570
OP congrats on the car, but this is the worst place to show it off. /o/ hates it because half of this stupid board doesn't own a car or doesn't drive, period, and the FRS doesn't stand up well to benchracing. Take your car to any other car community and have fun.
Also, please don't excessively mod it.
>>14981469
It's cool, OP. If you're happy, then it was a good buy. Keep it stock, keep it clean and enjoy. /o/ is full of fucks that will shit on any car that isn't their own
>>14981606
My commute would be faster in a bus
>>14981589
no he just read some spec sheets and saw that the car doesn't put down 800+ aston power and decided that it couldn't be fast because of such
>>14981469
you know what you need to do
>>14981570
What the fuck did you think was going to happen?
>>14981588
Heated seats warm your body quicker than the heater. If you've never tried it, you're missing out.
Even $15 heated seat covers in my shitbox winter beater make a big difference.
>>14981469
>fast
No. Dat torque dip
>>14981589
I overestimated the whp in an attempt to not make OP have buyers remorse. This car was extremely overhyped, fell on its face, and is extremely overvalued on the used market because of meme status. The ONLY thing it has going for it is rwd. If it were front wheel drive then it would literally be a honda produced by toyobaru. Moving the differential to the rear and only having two doors is literally the only sporty things about it. You'd be better off saving 18k and buying a used miata.
>>14981469
>This car is fast as fuck
>>14981645
>The ONLY thing it has going for it is rwd.
what new car for the price is better?
>inb4 miata
>>14981655
>new car
>implying new is better
Pick up a wrench
>>14981655
Fiat 124
>>14981674
i don't want somebodies abused shitbox
It's sexy and it's newer than the riceboxes people here have
If you wanted fast you could have bought a camaro or something but then you would just have to drive in a straight line
>>14981681
>Fiat
>fast as fuck
>tfw a stock 10 year old Mazda3 can beat your car in a race
ayyy and it has 40hp less, and it's FWD
kekkarino OP confirmed for gayest nigger of all time
>>14981682
Right, you'd rather overpay for a new shitbox that you can't abuse because it doesn't have the power. Makes sense.
>>14981618
lol, this shit again.
>>14981694
some people just don't know how to have fun
>>14981702
I do, that's why I own two e46s, and ended up spend 12k less than these are new for both of them. Keep deluding yourself
>>14981714
my nigga!
>>14981693
you bought a FWD econobox that handles like shit and slower nice try.
>>14981714
jesus you again, so you bought old bimmers with fuckton of miles.
>>14981735
>both have less than 60k on the clock
>fuck ton of miles
You really are trying hard aren't you?
All these angry foxes and thier sour shitboxes. Nice buy OP. If youre a real tuner you have potential with that engine
>>14981739
i wouldn't pay such premiums on servicing those fuckers for moderate performance, do you really think it performs better in anything but straight line?
>>14981735
>jesus you again, so you bought old bimmers with fuckton of miles.
And owning them ends up being a nice experience. I know, how the fuck is this possible?
Maybe you are just retarded and can't wrap your head around the following concepts:
>Not everything new is good
>Not everything old is bad
>Not everything 'expensive' is good
>Not everything 'cheap' is bad
Look I understand what you are thinking.
>I spent a lot of money on a new car, IT MUST BE BETTER THAN AN OLD CAR, otherwise it wouldn't have cost what it did
The red pill is that what you believe isn't what is real.
>>14981759
>pay for service
Again, pick up a wrench
>in a straight line
You've obviously never driven one
>>14981760
i bought a light,rwd,balanced,coupe, that is not expensive. What you can't seem to understand is why not buy a new car if it's exactly what you like and want? It's not ugly by any means just "under powered", dealwithit
>>14981714
>GUYS a used car offers a better value than a new car!
If you're stupid enough to make this argument in this thread, you're too stupid to understand my explanation on why it's, well, stupid.
>>14981772
>Again, pick up a wrench
i don't have the tools or time to deal with eurocarproblems
>>14981782
You're right, I should over pay for something that will underperform when compared to my two 12 year old bimmers. Get a clue fan boy
>>14981782
OOOHHHMMMYYYGURRRRDDDD its new!!!
Are you a female?
>>14981794
>>14981795
why is /o/ getting autistic about buying a new car over used...
>>14981469
>fast as fuck
Ruined the b8, m8
>>14981788
So overpay, drive your new frs, have a watered down driving experience, and enjoy looking at my license plates
>>14981570
This is fucking /o/, if you come around tooting your horn were gonna shove it up your ass and make you blow.
>>14981779
Why not buy a new car? Because you are paying out the ass for it to be new, and there is no reason to do this.
The wealthy boomers I know with millions in cars and property never buy new. NEVER. It is a terrible waste of money they say. Flaunting wealth is a fools idea of glory.
>>14981813
>watered down driving experience
little did you know
>and enjoy looking at my license plates
le supreme bimmer
>>14981809
/o/ is full of kids fresh out of high-school or NEETs without a reliable source of income. They're too poor to afford a new car so they tell themselves that old cars are better because of MUH FEELS.
>>14981645
> the ONLY thing going for it is RWD.
So a low center of gravity, superior suspension design, low curb weight (for 2016), responsiveness, ergonomics, etc. mean nothing to you? Are you sure you actually like cars? I can't tell.
>>14981833
>little
Like the power numbers produced by the frs
>supreme bimmer
Obviously
I'm happy for you, OP. When I'm ready to buy one, they'll probably have it under the Toyota brand. And ignore the haters. They're clearly bench racers. If you're happy, that's all that matters.
>>14981833
>little did you know
Why do you fags have to be like this and make me hate a car I otherwise would be happy exists.
The 86 is 'My First RWD', It is beginner level, it does not give that great of a driving experience. I know I have driven one. Come off it and know your place.
Why can't you faggots be like Ninja 250 people. They are based as fuck. They know they are on a beginner bike. They know it is a cheap and slow as fuck. They know it is unrefined. They don't go around telling anybody it is awesome or sprecial.
>>14981840
All of those things can be attained on the used market without spending the ridiculous price tag this car carries for the performance it brings to the table. It's a meme car, plain and simple
>>14981867
>It is beginner level
>it does not give that great of a driving experience
it's simple, you bought an auto.What do you want me to say it's a slow shitbox? Some people enjoy cars around tight twistie roads pushing cars to limits instead of lightposts
>>14981735
FYI Mazda3's actually handle as well as an FRS and they're fairly quick, sorry to burst your bubble little babby.
Enjoy your little cuck car :^)
>>14981794
>>14981795
Holy shit. Try, just please try, to think before posting your next response. Saying
> muh used car value
is not a good argument. Sure, I could buy a $500 Fox Body Mustang and throw a turbo on it and be faster than your BMWs, or most new BMWs for that matter. But that isn't the point.
I'm not saying new is necessarily better than used. You just have to compare new cars to new cars, and used to used.
>>14981892
>Enjoy your little cuck car
but you got the FWD, you lost already
>>14981892
> Mazda3 handles as well as an FRS
You can't honestly believe that.
>>14981905
>tfw a FWD economy car is faster than a RWD "sports coupe"
FRS/BRZ will surely go down in history as one of the worst modern automotive blunders, it's failed on all fronts. Marketing, performance, longevity, etc. Truly pathetic.
you coulda bought a corvette and literally had a car the same damn size and RWD with a V8 that is way faster for the same price
>>14981922
in what way is it faster? or better?
>>14981915
t. butthurt FRS owner who wasted 20 grand on his sloppy shitbox
Op is cuck he could've gotten 2004 v6 Camry because it's faster it can out run anything on the ring its new god machine
>>14981933
but you would still be a faggot with v6 camry
>>14981933
You'd be a cuck to get that because you could get a 1998 v6 Camry which is older so it's better AND cheaper at the same time.
>>14981871
Oh right. Which one of those used 2,600-lb, 4-seat, 200-hp RWD cars with modern conveniences and safety features and an 18.1-inch center of gravity were you referring to?
>>14981956
>modern conveniences and safety features
lmao what a pussy
>>14981931
Hey, great job with that counter-argument! So logical and convincing!
>>14981929
According to the holy grail of 0-60 times, he's technically correct:
http://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/mazda-0-60-mph-times/
>2007 Mazda3 S Touring: 7.2 seconds for 0-60
http://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/scion-0-60-mph-times/
>2013 Scion FR-S: 7.9 seconds for 0-60
Both are autos in this comparison. Manual 0-60 times aren't really that comparable, considering the driver is such a large part of the equation. Could have a shit driver in a manual car, then put in a good driver, and get totally different times.
TL;DR In the end it doesn't really matter if an FR-S is faster than a Mazda3, because it's still a slow car for what it should have been. It's a huge waste of money and anyone driving them looks like a pathetic wiener. Could've bought a goddamn Mustang for nearly the same money and ended up with a far better car straight out of the box.
>>14981492
>implying underneath that rag is a manual stick
>implying that third pedal is a clutch and it isn't photoshopped copypasta brake pedal
Nice try, OP
>>14981469
>fast as fuck
I drive a truck so idk what fast is
>>14981933
>>14981937
>>14981954
To be fair, the V6 Camry and V6 RAV4 really are brutal sleepers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEJNP00MVCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4cgK08ypy0
>>14981469
Yeah, it's a nice car. Enjoy it. It's not fast, it just feels fast, but so long as you have fun, more power to you.
>>14982015
what a faggy thing to say
>>14981956
>2,600-lb
>200hp
LOL
more like 2800lbs, 160whp
>>14982015
It ain't fun unless it wins benchrace epeen mesuring contests.
>>14981645
>fell flat on its face
That's exactly why it has a HUGE community the likes of which haven't been seen since the early 2000s when FnF was at its peak, right? Why it's in literally every issues of literally every tuner magazine, right?
>hurr durr if it doesn't have 400+ HP it's not sporty
You're a retard.
>>14981469
>FAST
>>14982046
How's Scion doing there bud?
>>14982046
Now ask yourself what that subculture had in common with the current one.
Two things stand out:
-shitty, over-hyped cars
-massive faggots with an undying lust for fart cans and male genitalia
>>14981809
It's not /o/ it's literally like two people. The guy is a fucking moron.
>>14982057
Since when did anyone want to save Scion when the car is badged as a Toyota GT86
>>14982055
>>14982055
:^)
>>14981867
>it does not give that great of a driving experience.
You're wrong. Literally, everyone disagrees with you. You're the only person who says this. You're also probably autistic because whenever someone brings up the 86 you jump in the thread and go MUH BIMMER MUH BIMMER HURR. You're a fucking retard. Fuck off.
>>14981890
lol, get a load of this guy.
I'm actually one of those 'some people' that enjoy cars on tight twisty roads. the 86 provides a basic, beginner experience. when you are a bit older and have driven more than your BRZ and the shitbox your mom gave you, you will understand this.
>>14982089
Do you really expect people that paid $25k for 200hp to tell the truth on how that car drives?
>>14982062
You're dumb.
>>14982055
>>14982069
>>14982078
>>14982062
As somebody that was into cars for the last one, I keked pretty good.
The 86, the new car for the shit for brain types that love fart cans, under glow, stickers, and flimsy strut braces.
>>14982101
problem isn't that it has 200hp
>>14981890
sounds like you enjoy taking your dick around tight twisty assholes and pushing your rectum to its limits you fuckin fag
>>14982110
based 30 year old Fiero is still faster than fucking FRS
>>14982089
I'm actually not the bimmer guy. I have a bimmer, and it is okay for what it is but that isn't my point. Having driven on twisty roads all generations of Miatas, FD, FC, S200, MR2s, Z32, S13, S14 and a couple BMWs... I am really not that impressed with the 86. Its pretty much a coupe miata, which puts it pretty much at the bottom in everything. There is a whole wide world of cars out there and the 86 is babys first step.
>>14982101
Yeah actually. We are all men here.
>>14981642
>torque dip at low rpm
>power band is smooth above 4000 rpms
>implying while racing a person would go below 4000 rpm
>implying you know anything about anything
>>14982130
God I wish the older ones weren't still so fucking expensive.
I see salvage titles with like 65k miles still going for $25-28k
Guess I better get that promotion if I ever want to see one of those fuckers in my garage
I test drove one for about an hour. I have a 2011 mustang gt so it definitely felt slow and i could tell the tires were garbage. But it handled nicely for what it was, A cheap rwd car. Its okay. Balanced well, but not great. If i were looking for a car like this in the price range you paid for it, i would go with the s2k.
>>14981469
TFW 2001 GTS celica
TFW as fast as an 86 on 0-100
TFW faster than an 86 on 100-200
TFW cost me 1/5th as much
>>14981469
OP, if you have purchased a car, no matter what it is, /o/ is not the place to have people congratulate you on it.
>>14981469
Congrats OP. Just log off and go for a rip, forget what /o/ says.
>>14981469
>fast as fuck
the hell where you driving before, a 2CV?
I've owned an FRS for 2 years now and not once have I ever considered it 'fast'
Still though, welcome to the club.
>>14982611
>tfw your car is so shit you need an internet hugbox to feel better about it
>>14981477
Dad: "Why the fuck did you buy this gay ass car?"
That's a high price. I bought one with 4K miles on it for 23K
>>14982685
It is kinda high but if it really belonged to guy who worked at shop we can assume he took care of it moderately well. Looks clean inside and out,but yes a bit overpriced
>>14981840
>superior suspension design
lol you have to be trolling. front strut with a double wishbone rear is not impressive in 2016. its also soft as shit for normies.
people on /o/ just hold toyobaru to a double standard.
The acceleration is fine. Its on par with other cars in its class. The Focus ST does 0-60 in 6.3, just .1 second faster than the toyobaru. One gets circlejerked over and the other gets called slow as shit
>>14982799
I also like how you fags act like $25K is a lot for a new car. This isn't the 90s anymore
I'm glad you're happy. However you overpaid like hell. For that price you could've gotten a 2015 FRS
>>14981469
Holy shit you paid 21k for a 2014 with 20k miles?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>14981469
Yes. It's faster than the more expensive ND Club.
>>14981469
>Did I do good /o/?
Imo yes. In /o/s opinion no, they hate hate it.
>>14983210
> fake lap times
Lol, toyobaru fanboy still mad about that streets of willow head to head
>>14981559
>They're low resistance tires to make you feel like you can drift.
No the low resistance tires mean he can learn how to drift without breaking any speed laws.
>>14983244
>my car handles like shit on purpose
whew, what a sports car
>>14983279
Different strokes for different folks. Some people enjoy driving around mashing the accelerator into the floor and feeling acceleration. Some like driving twisties and kicking the back end out a bit. If you're the latter then the gt86 is a brilliant car to do this without doing stupid speeds. Don't know why you're so salty about it.
>>14983293
You can kick the back out in fast cars without going stupid speeds too. This is as retarded as saying a 250 is better than a liter bike because you can have fun at slower speeds. Just don't go WOT everywhere, not that hard. Entry level cars for entry level drivers.
>>14982055
>tfw your car is a full 3 seconds faster to 60 and its stock
sick scion bro
>>14981714
>two e46s
>>14983293
>tfw pulling through the "twisties" (gayest word ever btw) at 90 mph
>tfw feathering throttle and still doing 100 when you look down
>leaving interstate exit ramps at 90mph
OP doesn't know that feel
>>14982549
It's not cheap though, you can get a mint e46 m3 for a lot less than an 86, which is a far superior car.
>>14983244
>No the low resistance tires mean he can learn how to drift without breaking any speed laws.
Some brit said so
>>14983416
>tfw you accelerate from a 80mph cruise for exit ramps so they will be fun
>tfw toyobarus disappear/wreck in your rear view mirror trying to keep up
>tfw you hear them wail "My car is new, this can't be happening!!!!"
Shit tier cars itt
I literally beat a group of faggots in BRZ/FRS at Laguna Seca in my 2014 BMW 550i boat at the time. It weighs 4300lbs. The only thing I did to it was put coil overs on it. They are barely a notch above faggotry levels of Miatas.
>>14983561
I went out to firebird the other weekend to spec the amateurs. There were 3-4 toyobarus parked together among 100 cars. The toyobarus got passed by everybody. But they looked happy enough chatting, clucks all of them.
>>14981469
You poor motherfuck...how does it feel knowing you are broke, op?
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/5532508386.html
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/5532508386.html
>>14982057
Shit argument. No one expects a small, RWD coupe to save a company of appliances. Lern2economics
>>14982035
2,758 for the manual. And bringing up whp to make it seem slow is a bad argument tactic. All cars have drivetrain losses. Mathematically speaking, low-powered cars lose fewer horses than high-powered ones.
>>14982101
Do you really have no clue on how the new car market works? Are all new cars objectively shit since "people wil say they're good just because they paid a lot of money for it" ?
>>14981469
Why didn't you just buy an S2000 or a 350Z?
Its a nice car OP. Doesnt matter how much HP a car has or what the NS time is.
If it gets you smiling while driving it its all good.
>>14981492
>>14981535
Why cover the gearstick? Something to hide?
Nigga that shit ain't fast. Slow as fuck.
>>14981814
Coffee just shot out of my nose. Holy shit.
>>14983990
350z is shit, but an s2k would have been way better than this under powered piece of shit FRS
lol, OP if you like your car you like your car. Don't be a shitter just because you don't get as many up votes as you expected, it also shouldn't ruin your car.
>>14981469
>This car is fast as fuck
No. It really isn't, and this is why you're getting so much backlash. Don't be delusional.
>>14981618
nice try subaru defense force
>>14985330
This. Fast is sub 5-seconds 0-60. "Fast as fuck" is sub 4-second.
>>14981629
Have fun with poor back pressure and exhaust scavenging.
>>14982123
and its rwd so thwy can still feel superior even though its literally civic tier
>>14981469
>200hp
>Fast as fuck
Nice b8
>>14985330
This, the FR-S is a good car and quick, but in no world is it fast.
>tfw I fire up the veeyate
>tfw when muh torques kick in
>tfw dual cutouts at any rpm
Can't comment on the ride itself as I would never really even want to be in/near one, but slow for sure. Just never mention the word "fast" when talking about your car. Please. You will be embarrassed by cars that should be embarrassed of themselves.
>>14985817
>using hp as a measure of speed
>not hp/kg
I shiggy diggy anon
>>14985817
fast is an subjective term
i drive 41bhp 800cc rustbox and my mothers 87bhp dacia is fast for me
>>14985889
Just because OP owned a slow car before doesn't make the Toyobaru "fast as fuck."
Faster =/= Fast
>>14985879
>still slow as shit by your metric
>>14985879
Can't accept that no 200 HP car is fast.
>>14985366
Tell me why every major car review publication praises the twins and /o/ thinks it's complete garbage. I want to know.
>>14986058
This thread isn't really about it being complete garbage. It's more about OP claiming that it's "fast as fuck."
>>14986058
>every major car review publication praises the twins
To a certain extent. Many critics still expressed disappointment at the lack of power. This viewpoint isn't just some obscure /o/ thing...
>>14986156
>>14986136
>reviews: it's a good car with one exception: the torque dip
>/o/: it's complete shit with one redeeming quality: RWD.
>>14986526
>torque dip
And general power. There's no shortage of reviewers wishing for more power.
OP would've got a bit less hate if he didn't claim that his new car is fast.
>>14981987
>Both are autos in this comparison. Manual 0-60 times aren't really that comparable, considering the driver is such a large part of the equation.
D E L U S I O N A L
you literally picked the less common and massively slower transmission for your argument. to say that "an automatic mazda3 is faster than an automatic fr-s" might be correct, but to say "a mazda3 is faster than an fr-s" is both retarded and false.
t. owner of a 2015 mazda3 and regretfully not a 2015 fr-s
>>14986156
>>14986526
It's not even that slow in my opinion, the original 86 was no monster either.
The whole 7.9 0-60 and 173 whp are purely shitpost arguments, probably keep getting posting by the same couple faggots
>>14986622
Sure, I'm not saying the 86 is a shit car. Just that a 7 second 0-60 is not "fast as fuck" as OP says. It really is just somewhat quick. Meanwhile, many family sedans and minivans are also "somewhat quick."
>>14986646
It actually runs low 6s, on par with the civic si and FoST
just saying
>>14986668
I'm sure it does.
>>14986614
>frs is so shit it can only be compared to fwd econoboxes
>>14986707
Car and Driver tested it 6.4 and motortrend tested it 6.2
having owned both styles of the FRS from different years i can honestly say that the reason i own an evo and not an frs is because the frs is in fact a god machine, but the evo in better than it in every possible way other than mpg
the fact that my evo was way less than what you paid is the final nail in the coffin
imo it will be a better value after they depreciate a bit more
>>14983968
>Are all new cars objectively shit since "people wil say they're good just because they paid a lot of money for it" ?
Do you not understand how mammals work? The harder we have to work for something the higher we perceive its value. The only people that can offer an objective opinion are 3rd parties, and as we have seen ITT, people who took out loans for these things CAN NOT deal with criticism.
New cars, are in many cases, worse than the old ones they are replacing.
>>14986058
Who do you think pays the bills? Do you think they are non-profits and write reviews as a charity?
How are you this naive and haven't been raped?
>>14983407
so he still has a car to drive when one breaks down
>full disclosure: I own an e46 m3
>>14987461
Your cynicism would only be validated if they only left glowing reviews for every car they tested. This is not the case.
Now kindly go fuck off to some vapor trail tin foil hat thread.
>>14987450
You're delusional. People buy things, only to complain about them, all the time. Look at customer ratings for literally anything. Look at the frequency of returns or re-sells. Look at how low brand faithfulness is in any given product segment from retail to automotive to grocery stores. Sometimes it's mere buyer's remorse. Sometimes people realize the product isn't as good as they expected.
Some people have regretted their FRS/BRZ purchase. Most have not. My assumption would be that most owners are satisfied with their cars. However, you would need to do some serious research to tell if they are wholly more or less satisfied than customers of other new cars.
>>14981477
official face of confusion
>>14981527
>Its not slow to me and whats wrong with the tires?
>Fast
Its about as fast as my golf 7 2.0 tdi and slower than my mercedes 2002 E 320 cdi while at the same time both consume less fuel than that memebox.
>>14981508
Don't worry man, I thought my neighbor's v8 cobra was powerful, and he thinks it feels anemic.
>>14981469
I'd rather a Fiesta
>>14987777
Quads were wasted on this shit ffs
>>14987628
lol, are you really this dumb?
In the 90s, Toyota refused to let Clarkson review their cars because he called the Corolla boring.
Most of the time the auto makers try to keep this sort of stuff on the DL. But just because you don't hear about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening.
In the past decade there have been dust ups with Tesla and Ferrari banning journalists over bad reviews.
>>14988760
Car and Driver regularly blasts Toyotas for being soulless. They recommend walking over buying some cars. In every comparison, the losing car gets grilled for lack of refinement, performance, features, etc.
Do you not read car reviews, or...?
>>14988760
...because Clarkson has never made anything up in his life
>>14986764
>>14986614
Skip to 19:17, BRZ/FRS fanboys on suicide watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLtw2z_mZ6w
>>14981522
Dude you over payed I could have gotten a 2015 still wrapped in delivery plastic with 1,300 miles for 23k back in 2015
>>14981469
No.
I can get a brand new BRZ for 23 and change right fucking now. You got rooked.
>>14992162
Why would a new car still wrapped have 1,300 miles?
>>14992195
Did you read the OP post? He got the top of the line model with heated mirrors and seats etc...
>>14990875
So it slightly faster...
Can thick fuckers not realize there's something called traded offs, pros and cons? The Miata is slightly faster and the FRS is slightly more practical
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>>14981814
I'm dying.
And op, you'd be getting less shit if you didnt describe it as fast because it simply isn't. That's not what the car was made to be though so I wouldn't worry about it, just enjoy the car.
>>14988760
>In the 90s, Toyota refused to let Clarkson review their cars because he called the Corolla boring.
lol, are you really making up stuff on 4chan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS-ysvO2hMc
>>14984431
>>14981492
>>14981535
yeah OP. Show us your shift stick. And don't forget a timestamp!
>>14984431
>>14992472
Yeah, he also shopped in a 3rd pedal.
>them pixels
>>14992280
Frs has like 50 more HP and still loses
>>14981469
Op if you like it that's all that matters. But I well say this.
21k would have bought you a 5.0, a SS Camaro , a C5Z. Just a thought
