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So, O, how does yours actually feel?
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So, O, how does yours actually feel?
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>>14973945
Mine feels like PRNDL
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>>14973950
Park
reverse
neutral
drive
learntofuckingdrive?
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>>14973953
XD
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Finally decided to make one of these.
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>slowing for red light
>look for 1st
>KRKRRRKRRK
or
>stopped
>shift into 1st
>launch backwards
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work van
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how my shitstang is
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>>14973985
Put it into first first and you'll actually be able to get into reverse 99% of the time. I haven't driven mine in forever but that looks right.
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Replace your shifter bushings, you retards. Jesus.
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1981 BMW E21
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>>14973996
>/o/
>car maintenance
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>>14973995
Yeah i know the trick, but it still sometimes takes going into first nudging it, when going through the gears. The transmission is starting to shit itself anyways. has a hum at 25 mph and i swear something is bent or loose inside there, oh and 5th gear randomly grinds, but it is so sporadic you never expect it, and it scares you every time
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Guess
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>>14973945
Why does everyone on /o/ have a fucked up shifter?

I have a nearly 2 decade old Ferd and the pattern shifts just as is indicated on the shift knob.
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>>14974031
And they're all exactly the same distance forward/backward as the next one? You never have any little oddities?
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Shifts as illustrated, with even (though long) throws, except it likes to pop out of second once in a blue moon because second gear is apparently union or something and goes on strike.
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>>14974040
They basically all feel the same in terms of distance. I think 5 and R are slightly further from 3 and 4 compared to the distance between 1 and 2, but that feels exactly how it's supposed to. It shifts great actually. Original trans with 202k miles.
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>>14974045
>second gear is apparently union or something and goes on strike.
This made me laugh harder than it should have.
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nissan d21 with 300k
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>>14974031
/o/ is full of retarded children who can't drive see >>14969439
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>>14973945
I borrowed my mexican buddies T100 4x4, apparently it has the same engine as the 1st gen Tacoma.
150HP on a nearly full size truck...
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P R N D L2 L1

P R N D 3 2 1

Column shift goodness
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>>14974122
Yeah that's true. I just think it's weird because I've driven a few high mileage old shitboxes and none of them were so bad that you really couldn't find a gear.
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>>14973979
Accurate representation of work vehicles
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Freightliner M2106
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>>14974145
Wow you are hardcore.
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>>14974151
This is exaggeration for the sake of humor.
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>>14974172
I get that the drawings are obviously exaggerations, but I've just never driven any car that was that ambiguous in the shifter feel, and I've driven some old shitty cars. I feel like something would have to be really fucked up for the shifter to not at least somewhat match the intended pattern.
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1975 Camaro LT with Muncie 22 4-speed, fucking hurst shifters.
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>Put car in reverse
Am I really in reverse?
>Put car in 1st
Am I really in first?
>Put car in 6th
>forget while driving down the highway
Am I'm in 5th or 6th?
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Repoastin
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>>14974169
Bangin gears like I bang ur mum
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>>14974246
So you don't!
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>>14974255
It's his daddies car that his daddy put a shitty 400 block in, let him boast lel.
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>>14974246
You don't bang gears in an automatic.
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>>14974259
I if he is a good boy and eats his veggies daddy will let him sit in it and make vroom vroom noises before nightie night time.
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>>14974246
Daily reminder: the guy who owns "your" car, is literally banging your mom!
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2016 Camaro 1SS
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It's like neutral isn't even fucking there
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>>14974277
Not to mention its a mid 70's nova, non-debatably one of the ugliest versions on the nova, more along the lines of Grandma's daily driver at that point.


>>14974294
Fuck off dirtbike fag.
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>>14974308
>cb250
>dirtbike

nobike confirmed
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>>14974327
My bad, meant to type moped.
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>>14974266
Your right it bangs then for you...loudly somewhere between 35 and 65 mph. Just ask my truck
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>>14973945
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AE86 with a stupidly short shortshifter.

I've had other 86 drivers be astonished at how short it is.
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Driving a BRZ, feels rough in first and second gear. It's like there's a barrier that keeps me from shifting them fully in, it goes half and half. And when I shift from first to second, it makes a cranking/slotting sort of sound. This is my first manual so I'm worried I might have fucked up something. Could there be something wrong with the synchro or linkages? 3rd and onwards feel fine.
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>>14974353
>Just ask my truck
Does it speak better English than you do? Could you put it on for a moment?
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>>14974266
Thats the joke
>>14974277
Yeah, I kinda know that. And you can say what you want, but there's been money and time from both sides spent so both of us consider the car both of ours. I can post here if I want, and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>14974308
Well I like it, and so does everyone at any shows and meets I go to so take that as you will.
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Get on my swirl level, scrubs.

No reverse, we can never go back.
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>>14974407
Yes, this is truck
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>>14974415
I'd pay to see this on a bike
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>>14974414
The Only people who compliment on that car is people who don't know anybody/that are poor.

>>14974421
Oh yeah a stick shift on a bike, learn basic automotive design you cancerous fuck.
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>>14973945
Gated.
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>>14974417
Truck? This is anon. Is >>14974353 getting to school OK? His posting is suffering.
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2016 Suzuki (Maruti) Alto 800 ... first week was silky smooth, then a day I missed 1st and nothing was the same again ...
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>>14974414
This is your dad's car.
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>>14974437
>what is a suicide clutch
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>>14974437
Obviously it would be similar to the gear shift on a normal bike, but instead you would strap your foot into in.

You would shift by wildly kicking your leg into the correct position.
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As long as I remember to shift nice and smooth it feels like pic to the left, though my reverse is push down then left-up

If I try to race it I have troubles with both third and fifth gear unless I get lucky, and if I change from 1'st at higher than 4000 RPM it will grind like a mofo and I cannot get it into second.

This happened after I tried racing it.

Protip: trying to race a 15 year old estate with every shift being jerky is going to fuck your gearbox.

I drive like my grandma now
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1G DSM
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Mine feels like this
:^)
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>>14974507
>Would you consider multiple pro Mod racers at the track and David Freiburger people who are poor and dont know anybody?

Yes, and I certainly would not take a 16 year old's word for it.

Meant to type Anything but auto-correct did me a solid and typed Anybody.
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>>14974593
and it looks like this ;^)
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>>14974454
No I fail him much
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My first truck was a column shifter with jacked up linkage, so it had this fun way of flying completely past any gear. Maximum kek when 17 and trying to drive a girl around and you're stopped a a light trying to jiggle the shifter back into place :^) This is back in the 90s and even then nobody knew about 3-onna-trees anymore.

Now my xterra is just showing its age. I get a little chuckle when the gearshift moves on its own during accel/decel in 3rd gear (weridly it doesn't do it in any other gear)
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>>14974631
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I don't drive a manual, but why do shift patterns go like this over time?
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>>14974683
there's bushings and linkages that wear, get loose, etc., and when your synchros are tired of all your dagumi action it feels like you're trying to shift through rocks
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>>14974683
Fucked linkages and synchros mostly.
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>>14974414
>so both of us consider the car both of ours.
Except the title is in daddy's name
Except the insurance is in daddy's name
Except daddy bought it
Except it's parked in daddy's garage
Except I have to ask permission to drive daddy's car
> I can post here if I want, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Just like I can post about how fucking pathetic you are for posting pictures of your daddy's car, then making some lame attempt to say that it's just as much yours as it is his.
You are a fucking teenager living at home you don't own shit.
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>>14974437
>cancerous fuck
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>>14974689
>>14974691
Do these happen from normal wear, abuse, bad driving, or what?
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>>14974684
Why only 3rd Reich? Because if you're not good at manual, there's a lot of Stalin.
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>>14974709
"Yes." Anything that happens normally over time will happen faster with abuse and bad driving, anon.
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>>14974719
Thanks lad, all I needed to know.

Buying my first manuél tomorrow, so I want to minimize fucking up my transmission as much as possible,
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>>14974726
one of us
one of us
one of us
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>>14974068
what, is this supposed to be some kind of face? Get this shit out of here.
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>>14974713
(You)
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>>14974751
Th-thanks for the (You)
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>>14974726
Congrats. Even though shift patterns do get fucky, you will get used to it. I never mis-shift 2nd for 4th, and even if it's difficult to get into reverse it's never impossible.
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>>14974761
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3rd is like pushing the gearstick through gravel
4th is smoother than a babys ass
5th pristine because previous owner didnt know it was a 5 speed
reverse is GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIINNNNNNNNNND clunk
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>>14974786
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>>14974803
cringe
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>>14974803
<3
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>>14974451
Why would you bother installing something that nice in a chevy truck?
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Lets play a game called guess that car
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I have two 6speeds. The reverse is opposite. I always mix it up.
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>>14974826
>no torqs
Civic
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>>14974834
Ding ding ding
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going into 2nd and reverse can sometimes be a pain in the ass, but every other gear is silky smooth
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>TWENTY FUCKING SIXTEEN
>THERE ARE LITERALLY PEOPLE ITT WHO DO NOT PUT IT IN FIRST OR OTHER GEARS BEFORE PUTTING IT IN REVERSE TO AVOID THE FAMOUS REVERSE GRIND
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DISGUSTING
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hipster 50's vertical shift
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>>14974851
I use 3rd then reverse, no worries anon, still pops like hell tho
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>>14974851
>this

it's the breakdown of the nuclear family, anon. no based dads to teach them the basics. they all learned to drive the manuel from youtube videos of furries and such.
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Guess my car
Hint: It's Japanese
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>>14974856
Who in the sweet fuck thought that was a good idea?
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>>14974880
brz
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>>14974437
>nobike confirmed

You can't be that stupid and own a bike.
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>>14974866
>breakdown of the nuclear family
Sounds like fission. How many niggawatts do you think the typical black household emits?
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>>14974888
Nope
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>>14974825
It's a ford pick-up, thank you very much.
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>>14973945
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>>14974947
>black people
>manuels

please, spare us the edge, pol-kun. you know as well as i do that these fedora tippers grinding their reverse gears as white as pic related
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>>14974880
If you have to push down on the shifter to get into reverse, I would guess some form of Honda. Perhaps S2000. If there is a ring that you pull up on, some form of Subaru (but not a BRZ apparently).
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>>14974972
z-zalgo?
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Neglected old Taurus SHO I test drove.
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>>14974866
>youtube videos of furries
actually what
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>>14973945
9k hours ms paint etc
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E30 with all shift linkage wear parts replaced and a short shifter.

With these cars there is always some side to side play while in gear, and it's in the gearbox.
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>>14974888
Nah left and up for brz, down and right for muh chebby truk
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>>14974866
jokes on you my nan tought me how to drive manuelle
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>>14973945
based af honda gearboxes.
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>>14974361
Mine feels crisp and tight. Are you depressing the clutch enough?
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ITT: SPOT THE PEOPLE STUPID ENOUGH TO NOT DO TRANNY FLUID CHANGES


>change tranny fluid from stock fluid
>shifting gears is now buttery smooth again
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>>14974880
wrx
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>>14973945
My gfs Ford Focus is almost perfect.
The clutch can be pretty unforgiving, but when you get it right it's like fucking sex.
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Um.
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>>14975098
>people fall for the manufacturer specific fluid meme
>like each manufacturer has reinvented the transmission

>sealed for life transmission
>never needs changing
>cat warranty is 5 years
Well i guess thats the fluid change interval.

Fucking blows me away that people run their 20yo shitboxes on factory fluids.
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>>14975288
>cat warranty is 5 years

oh fuck my cat is almost 16
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>>14973945
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>>14973945
Crazy notchy. Sucks the shifter into gear.

I plan on putting a Steeda shift kit in soon so it should be even nicer.
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>>14975374
>ecoboost mustang

I found your problem
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1990 shittruck
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That first to second has to be perfect
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>>14973945
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grandpas old accord
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Where do people come up with this shit? My BMW has 300km which is roughly 200 american kilometers and besides the neutral being a bit sloppy it's tight as your mom was before she met me.
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>>14974010
RX7. I only say that because that's how mine is.
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>>14973945
G e r m a n e n g i n e e r i n g
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>>14976360
Is this a thing with mazda transmissions?
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>>14976475

Only thing I know is that the 6 speed as a 2nd gear that doesn't feel good shifting in from first. I know that from my 6 speed and what I read. Apparently the 5 speed isn't like that and feels better.
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>>14973945
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>>14975288
>yfw your cat is still under warranty.
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>>14976521
I've driven three NBs (two Mazdaspeeds, one SE) with 6spds and none of them felt bad shifting into second. My only problem was getting into 6th - always worry I might accidentally throw it in reverse on the freeway. I don't like how close all the gears are at the shifter, but if I owned one, I'd probably get used to it after a full three days or so.
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>>14973945

Getrag 420g, new oil 8000kms ago.
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>1st gear synchros are fucked
>gotta put it into 2nd then 1st to engage properly
>mum tells me to stop fiddling with the gears while trying to perform this highly technical manoeuvre
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>>14977099
you can just double clutch it anon.
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>>14977104
easier
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>>14977111
t. Mercedes driver
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>>14974437
Dude, stick shift bikes have existed up to about 1950.
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>>14974684
>he drives a VW
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>>14976178
>300km which is roughly 200 american kilometers
Wat
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>>14976178
>american kilometers
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>>14975093
That's definitely not where reverse is on an S2000....
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Not bad for a 43 year old Volvo imo.

Almost feels like the gears just click into place.
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>>14973945
>5 gears
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>>14977331
>>14977377
200000 miles
200k miles
200km
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This was on an aging 206 that was sold off a while ago.
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>>14974183
like 10 years ago my father had an old 1986 mk2 golf, rusted to shit that had a horrible shifter. the whole thing just floated, only my father could drive the thing. First, reverse and 3rd was pretty much a guess
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I'm an auto driver looking to one day join le seecrit club and get a manual
What is the logic behind the shifters feeling like they have a weird path? Wouldn't the while transmission be fucked internally if that were the case?
I still can't get over the logic behind how a clutch and gears work without getting all fucked up from grinding and movement in the first place
Like the engine is spinning and the gear that connects the flywheel and drive gear are spinning
How do they interlock when spinning at such high speed
Trying to learn how !annual works before I get one
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It's honestly a phenomenal shifter, no bumps or grinds, but damn that gear ratio
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>>14977560
clutch pulls the trans away from the engine, then go ahead and shift away, its not as hard as people are making it out to be in this thread, turn the car on, clutch in, find all the gears, if you can, shes a goodun'
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>>14977560
Nobody knows for sure.
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>>14976178
Rwd transmissions are more direct. Fwd use linkages that can give shitty feel. Also as fwd bushings wear out they get sloppyer. Also 300km is nothing to an American. Every thing is better here.
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>>14977560
>implying speed gears do more than spin about
>what are clutch hubs
>what are synchronizers
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>>14974851
but senpai, my car never grinds gears when I shift into reverse
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>>14974010
My mom's Fiat
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>>14975288
I guess your the kind of guy who put 80w-90 into crv diff
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>>14978503
What? Your mom's Fat?
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Like this.
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>>14975388
No, it's actually really nice, both the shift and the motor.
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>>14977762
>implying basic education teaches anyone about this
>implying everyone has a deep mechanical knowledge of the less relevant parts of a car (relevant being end user can and should maintain the part themselves)
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>>14973974
How is this possible? Is the safety gate broken? What car?
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1993 240sx with a megan type 2 short shifter.
super clicky, all my friends hate it but I like it.
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>>14973953
upboated :)
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It's something like this.
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>>14977582
Cool thanks ive been trying to explain this to my son
Thanks anon
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>>14973974
Beamer?
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>>14980488
You shift your bike with your dick?
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>>14973996
how do i replace shifter bushings
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>>14980560
You don't ?
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I hate my WRX in general. This is particularly annoying.

>>14980488
My suzuki DRZ400SM doesn't clunk. My SV650 doesn't clunk. My BMW R1150GS doesn't clunk.

My other 2 bikes clunk. Every bike I've ever ridden that isn't a Suzuki clunks.
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>>14980488
>>14980560
>>14980590
I am now hesitant to sign up for motorcycle classes.
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>>14980602
Are you giving it any gas when you downshift? It probably won't grind if you rev-match.
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Fags.
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>>14974169
I can.
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>>14976307
No but not too far off

>>14978503
<insert sex joke here>
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>>14980621
It's a Subaru, I have to rev match all of my shifts. Down and UP. If I don't there is a lot of drive train shock. I'm pretty good at heel-toe rev matching after 40,000 miles in this stupid car.

It only does it in 4th. When I go from 5th to 4th it feels like 4th engages prematurely, so I let the clutch out, but it isn't actually in 4th. It happens about 10% of the time.
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>>14980711
Huh. That'd bother the shit out of me, too.
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1995 HiLux at work, with over 500 000km of steep mountain roads and offroading on it
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my '74 Triumph TR6
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>>14980730
kek
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>>14976025
fucking kekked, lad; my tibby's second gear synchro ate shit at 80k miles.

thank you gorean glass transmission

>tfw dear leader doesn't notice you didn't take notes on his transmission manufacturing lecture
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>>14973945
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>>14973998
I can relate. '92 E36.
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Feels like this. Second gear never feels smooth going in, then gets smooth, then just because it engages feels squiggly again. 5th seems further right than reverse
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everyone thats seen me shift is surprised how short the shifts are, its kinda ridiculous but i love it
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>>14980697
is that a stock battery voltage meter? why? I thought that was only something for people who put a sub too big for their alternator in their car.
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>>14982526
voltmeter is more useful than ammeter tbqh fampai
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>>14982526
Lots of cars have stock volt meters. My FB RX-7's came in handy a couple of times: once when the voltage regulator failed and the system went to 17 volts, and once when the belt for the alt and water pump snapped.
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66 Mustang
sloppiest reverse gear in the world
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The one on the beater is a messy one
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>>14977019

I just know from what I've read on Miata forums and the one that I own. Some say that the oil used can affect the first to second shift by making it better or worse.

You feel something very well that creates a good bit of resistance when you move it into reverse. I've done it a few times where I'm shifting, but since I felt the resistance I knew I was going toward reverse. The resistance just make me have to put more force into the push for reverse.
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np435 life
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>>14974700
you do realise he's satting on the passenger's seat, right

he's just using his foot shifter with his hand
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>>14975374
ME TOO! What color? What mods?
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I still cant get used to the 5th gear distance after owning the car for 1.5 year
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Feels good except for reverse, thats just a game of hide and go seek.
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>>14974880
G35/7
350/370z
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>>14976398
Holy shit i was going to make one for my Astra but it's basically like that except both 2nd and 4th feels longer than 1st and 3rd.
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Golf represent.

2nd gear fucked my arm after a couple of months solid yanking down and tensing my arm. Got used to it now.

DYEL. I know.
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>>14986662

Although actually you push down for reverse, so it's more like this.
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>Everyone who rides in my car complains how uncomfortable manuals are just because of mine
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>>14979309
>>14980518

95 Audi S2. Reverse lockout is non existent since I had to replace the shot and no longer available shifter ball joint for one from an A6. It's OK tho you get used to it. I might weld my own lockout in.
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>>14973979
priceless
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>>14977472
>>14986851
it must be a hilux thing
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>>14973996
This

Recently i thought i fucked my transmission but it was just bushings.
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>>14974834
>>14974843
holy shit, nice guess
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>jaguar x-type

I swear they put the 2nd gear 2mm away from 4th. I've redlined a few times by speed shifting for fun then putting it into 2nd at 50mph.

I really want to get a slotted one, would look better and I could see it better. Would probably help. They don't make many mods for the mini xj tho :(
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>>14973945
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>>14973967
truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>14973945
Scion xB 5speed
Toyota and their stupid cable-based shifter
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03 Civic. I don't know how many times I'd grind going into third if I didn't jiggle it all over the fucking place.
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>>14974664
I drive on 04 Fromtier, amd your shift patter 100% sums up my truck.
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>>14984132
what is suicide clutch, get gud nigga.
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13 veloster, not bad really i guess
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'89 Sentra with stupid low miles because lol granny used it go to church and the grocery store.

Shit is really tight, every gear is super close, though sometimes i'll hit the space between 4 and R going from 5->4.

And reverse is fucky and ALWAYS grinds.
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>>14974010
Miata
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2011 Passat 211hp
6-speed Wet DSG
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>>14986887
it is, I drive a 91 4x4. 5th gear might as well not even be there.
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WRX 2016
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>>14980679
Its great you have a free hand to scratch your vagina.
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>>14974971
It's a Honda, but nothing as good as an S2k.
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>>14973945

My 1st feels closer to the right than it should be and reverse feels really fucking far to the right but otherwise its pretty much standard 5 speed like yours.
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E32 is autotragic so no point in putting that up
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>>14990549
Is your 1-2 shift crunchy when it's cold?
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>>14990836
no. fifth is loud as shit when it's cold, though.

see >>14990581
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>>14986887
>>14990549

copied from wikipedia

"The W55 appears to be a base reference point for gear ratios that Toyota used to fine tune later models of the W-series."

Ratios:

First Gear: 3.566:1
Second Gear: 2.056:1
Third Gear: 1.384:1
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
Fifth Gear: 0.85:1
Reverse: -4.091:1
so yeah, 5th might as well not be there.
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>>14974414
at least AussieMuscle owns his own muscle cars

just buy a mid 70's landbarge in your own name and the D A D S C A R insult will stop, i feel bad for you that this as become a /o/ wide joke
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>>14973945
most of the time it's okay, but sometimes it feels exactly like pic related.
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>>14973945
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>>14974684
Get a beamer?
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