ITT we make the worst car ever built by putting different manufacturers in charge of certain aspects of it.
>example: Chevrolet in charge of windows
>>14958922
>ford in charge of the front grill(s)
>>14958922
>Nissan in charge of transmissions
>>14958922
GM in charge of performance
>>14958922
>Honda in charge of automatic transmissions
>>14958922
>mazda in charge of engines
i love mazda but fuck their engines are so boring or unreliable
>>14958940
Literally the opposite of real life. Unless you're talking rotary
>>14958922
Kia in charge of body proportions
Toyota buyers in charge of floormats right under the gas pedal.
VW in charge of meeting emissions standards
>>14958922
Alfa Romeo in charge of electrics
Mercedes in charge of rust protection
Chrysler in charge of interior materials.
fiat in charge of electrical systems
>>14958981
more like mazda
holy shit those bitches rust fast
Tesla in charge of end user servicing
>>14958922
Every single Japanese manufacturer works together on exterior design.
Ssyangyong in charge of Styling
Porsche in charge of pricing
Saab in charge of ergonomics
Ford in charge of infotainment systems
Nissan in charge of the warranty
Mitsubishi/Chrysler in charge of Electrics
Ferrari in charge of customer relations.
>>14959015
>Ssyangyong in charge of Styling
Chrysler/Fiat in charge of engines
>>14958922
Chevrolet in charge of ignition switches
>>14959011
Not
>Tesla in charge of ICE
Renault in charge if memeing
Toyota in charge of break pedals
Ford's got the interior
>pagani in charge of interior
>>14958934
That thing is gonna be fast as fuck then. Put Kia in charge of performance
>>14959141
My rio driving sister agrees
>>14959141
Boy... did you possibly make a HUGE fucking mistake replying...
>>14959123
No, that would be bmw.
>>14959145
>letting a loved one buy a kia anything
you monster
Chevrolet in charge of cooling
>>14959176
>oh but its so cheap, its only 9k and its basicaly new
advised against it but after that, I just gave up
Buick in charge of suspension.
>>14958970
>>14958928
Front grille would obviously go to Lexus
>>14959170
No, that would be Honda.
chevrolet in charge of picking quality materials
>>14959200
At least the gauges. Kill it with fire.
>>14958922
Chrysler in charge of not going bakrupt.
Infiniti in charge of drive by wire.
>>14959200
Oh Christ, it gets worse
>>14959180
What he meant to say was Dodge in charge of cooling.
>>14958922
Dodge in charge of weight reductions.
>>14959232
>>14958922
Just buy a Dodge, they have all bases covered.
/thread
>>14959193
got worried and thought it was (you know who) going to derail the thread kek..
>>14958922
Jeep in charge of NVH levels.
>>14959237
I sell these things. 1 bad car isnt because of design.
>>14959240
wait what?
I think he's here
>>14959245
> just one car
>>14959237
this faggot is back again
>>14959245
>1 bad car
ok then
>>14958922
Ford in Charge of power steering pumps.
>>14959267
>>14959268
Are you retarded? The corvette is faster, it had misaligned suspension during motortrends testing.
>>14959267
>vette: 2 minutes and 44.6 seconds
>nismo: 2 minutes and 49.4 seconds
>>14959256
annnnd just like that it happened... fuck.
>>14959274
>misaligned suspension
nigga what? did you even watch the video for best drivers car 2015? it wasn't producing boost
>>14959282
>this assmad
>>14959287
he derailed it
>>14959289
>assmad
>>14959294
>cherry picking lap times
>>14959274
Damage control from GMs media team
>>14959289
>>14959294
benchracing faggots
>>14959289
Virginia International Raceway Grand East Course (post 01/2014)
>Vette: 2:41.32
>Nismo: 2:49.40
>>14959306
>>14959311
Will gm ever recover from this?
>>14959294
> results from a weekend of testing the corvette with fine tuned and non factory specification suspension and traction control settings
I could post lap times of modified gtrs as well
>>14959318
rekt
>>14958951
Kia in charge of everything
Also Audi in charge of gaskets and timing components
>>14959313
>nissan gtr nismo
>7:08.68
>corvette z06
>7:22.68
GM BTFO!!!!!
>>14959325
>using a 2011 z06
Top fucking kek
>>14959325
How the fuck are you always on /o/?
Do you have a job?
Do you contribute to society at all?
Will you ever become successful enough to fulfill your dream of sucking off your boyfriend in a GT-R?
Why do you feel the need to shit up this board?
Are you using /o/ to get the attention you could never have in real life?
So many questions.
>>14959330
>this assmad
>>14959332
>assblasted
>>14959318
>GM faggot fanboys won't even defend this
Thread has been derailed. Abandon
Another thread ruined by the faggot alphonse
>>14959330
Oh that right, the c7 can't get around the nurburgring without crashing or going into limp mode.
ITT: GM FANGIRLS BTFO!!!!!!!!!
>>14959342
This.
>>14959330
>using the latest model Vette that as actually able to finish a lap
What are you complaining about?
Alphonse's fragile psyche has come to rely on one of the saddest defense mechanisms I have ever scene. Don't hate him, /o/, pity him. This is all he has.
>>14959360
>literally cannot refute arguments
>resorts to ad hominems
GM FANGIRLS ON SUICIDE WATCH!!!!
kek, another thread gm fangirls get btfo
>>14959365
I'm so sorry. It gets better, I promise.
>>14959379
I wish I could say the same for gm's engineering.
>>14959386
savage
>>14959371
>>14959365
How?
GTR faggots can't even use facts
>muh nismo
>comparing a 2006 z06 to a 2016 nismo
>muh slower laptimes than a z06
You faggots are honestly too stupid to argue with, derailing every fucking thread that has nothing to do with the two cars.
>>14959397
> this ass mad
Sorry about the fact the z06 is an overheating piece of shit and slower than the gtr in every head to head comparison
>>14959397
>this assmad
>>14959397
>>14959402
Explain its laptimes being 5+ seconds faster in almost every test
>Lightning lap
>VIR
>Mtrfig8
Took nissan 10 years to build a decent track car and it loses to a cheaper and newer car on the market
>>14958922
Early 2000s Dodge in charge of transmissions. Late 90s Subaru in charge of head gaskets.
Ford Econoline division in charge of interior materials.
Mazda in charge of rust prevention.
Audi in charge of timing chains.
Mercedes in charge of electricals.
Chevy in charge of ignition systems.
Toyota in charge of airbags.
>>14959404
It never raced around the nring...
>>14959423
Those aren't head to head comparisons. They are either one year apart (in the case of lighting lap) or first parry vs third party.
Please try keep your ass mad under control.
>>14959428
Correction, it never made it across the finish line in one piece (either without crashing or without being in limp mode)
>>14959404
I hope you choke on a fucking lunchable
>>14959423
>lighting lap
overheated
>vir
>implying a kiddy go cart track is relevant
>>14959423
>mtrfig8
Overheats shortly after.
>>14959428
GM has actually been around the ring multiple times. Every single time they try it just overheats and gives a terrible lap time.
>>14959439
>this assmad
;^)
>>14959432
You mean like car and driver where it picked the z06 over the nismo and 911 turbo s because of its superior handling?
>faggot
>>14959439
>crashed in heavy rain
>>14959332
Isn't this guy a nigger? That explains it.
Suzuki in charge of sales
>>14959458
>trying this hard
go back to /b/ and jack it to trap faggot
>>14959470
brutal
>>14959459
>superior handling
https://youtu.be/F5F18o8xayA
>>14959462
>>14959471
>this assmad
kek, let the tears flow
>>14959459
> crashed in heavy rain
Please stop making up fake excuses. There were two crashes at the ring by the way, and both times it was not raining :^)
Stay mad that the z06 is slower in every head to head comparison (the only lap times that truly matter) and it's an overheating piece of shit that can't get around the nurburgring at full power
>>14959226
They are symmetrical because they are sold in both left and right hand drive
>>14959459
You mean like the car and driver one where the corvette was over ten seconds slower than the gtr and 911 to accelerate from 20mph to 50mph in top gear?
>>14959488
top kek
gm fangirls btfo
>>14959477
>2015 run attempt in the rain and crashed
>still using the over heating joke.
>was faster with re aligned suspension
>faster in the fig 8
>faster in Car and driver
>Faster at the lightning lap
>Big willow
>VIR
>Laguna Seca
>Nissan using modified cars around the ring
Sure bud. Whatever makes you feel better.
>>14959015
>Ssyangyong in charge of Styling
This.
>>14959501
>realigned
see
>>14959318
>>14958922
>Chinese in charge of performance
>Porsche in charge of model diversity
>VW in charge of emissions
>Audi in charge of repairability
>Lamborghini in charge of electronics
>Pagani in charge of interior design
>Citroen in charge of interior parts
>Peugeot in charge of driver controls
>Dodge in charge of transmissions
>Mitsubishi in charge of engines
>/o/ in charge of advertising
>>14959513
>modified gtrs around the ring
>resetting suspension
Which one is worse dumbass?
>>14959532
>me
>caring
pick one, and only one
>>14959532
>modified
>this much damage control because gm is such shit
top kek
>>14959540
top kek. this.
>>14958922
>Land Rover in charge of ECU
>>14959547
fuck off gm shill poser
>>14959558
>stealing my alias on a japanese image trading board
>>14959540
>>14959547
>having no arguments against any of my points
Typical
And wouldn't nissan be shit if they needed to modify cars to get a decent time?
>>14959567
>literally admits the corvette is modified
>b-but muh modified gtr
top kek
Why is gm such shit?
>>14959565
I'm not stealing anything, I'm taking back what's mine.
>>14959588
What's yours is mine. ;^)
>>14959555
>Land Rover in charge of drivetrain components
>>14959558
>>14959565
>>14959588
>>14959597
Senpai stahp.
>>14959613
no.
kek, good job alphonse, just look how butthurt this faggot is >>14959397
>>14959578
You mean a re aligned suspension vs a completely tuned and modified GTR that was classed as "stock" for the nurburgring attempt? Numerous times? And caught because people knew it would be slow? kek.
>calls GM shit
>More reliable than Nissan
Kill yourself my dude
>>14959540
What do you drive Alphonse ?
>>14959639
>gm
>reliable
>>14959658
What car do you drive alphonse
>>14959639
>a completely tuned and modified GTR that was classed as "stock" for the nurburgring attempt?
woah, you are fucking stupid
not only do you belive a trim is somewhow a modification, but you are also too dumb to understand GM forgot to videotape their willow springs attempt
>>14959668
>>14959657
some Ford, supposedly
Behold the Arna. Nissan in charge of styling, body and rear suspension. Alfa Romeo in charge of build quality, electrics and mechanicals.
>>14959676
>>14959678
Why can't you awnser Alphonse
>Ferrari in charge of dealerships.
>>14959710
Cock cheese.
>>14959658
10. Chevrolet, 123
13. Nissan, 128
Right from JD
>>14959673
You don't believe it then look it up retard. Nissan is notorious for using modified GTRs. Doesnt mean the nismo was. "Earlier in the week we brought you the news that the incredible Nissan GT-R NISMO had lapped the Nurburgring in 7 minutes and 8 seconds, just 11 seconds slower than the Porsche 918. Well it turns out that it kind of didn't. The original press release did state that the car used featured 'track options', which included 'aerodynamics tuning, weight reduction, and suspension tuning'. It turns out that this also includes 'bigger spoilers for more downforce, different dampers and brake pads, bucket seats that contributed to a significant 50kg weight saving and a new ECU map.' " The nismo used a package that wasn't even available to the public at the time.
>>14959710
Because he doesn't drive.
>>14959726
Like I understand you like shitposting I don't care about GM or who's better or gtr this or that
Do you even like cars?? Do you even own one?
>>14959739
Your mother.
>>14959729
>JD Power
>>14959739
Cars? Who cares? The only reason to post here is to anally devastate GM fangirls.
>>14959753
You mean a reliable source?
>TVR in charge of build quality
>>14959759
So just acting like a faggot?
If you wanted to "devastate" someone, use facts, not because a few early models of a production car had metal in the oil system.
>>14959729
>You don't believe it then look it up retard.
>track options
>that are already avaliable for the public
you are a dumb fucking fag
>Lotus in charge of the engine
Always have weedy engines, always, they get away with it because their cars weigh the same as a bag of cheetos.
>>14959532
> modified gtr
Oh so a higher trim level is modification? Guess the Z07 is modified bevause it isn't the same as a z51
Retard
>>14959770
>many reports of premature engine failure
>overheating when pushed
>still slower than the GTR
>>14959518
>Pagani in charge of Interior design.
Can you explain this?
>>14959770
kek, this GM fangirl is completly anallydevastated
>>14959639
Realonged suspension? It was fine tuned setting completely different to factory specification after a weekend of gm testing on that specific track
Try harder gm fangirl
>>14959773
"but PistonHeads spoke to NISMO engineers, who confessed that the car had also been specifically tuned for the Nurburgring. This is significant as, for example, the 'Ring car's dampers are actually softer than standard, to aid the car around the bumpy circuit. "
Cry some more
>>14959729
LOL read your own post retard
>optional extrass are modifications
How could gm fangirls be this fucking retarded roflmao
This just in, any lap times set by a car that isn't the base model without any options selected is now invalid because it's a modified car
TOO FUCKING ROFLMAO
>>14959818
So when you buy a n attack it features the exact same damper settings as the car that ran a 7:08
Can't say the same for the z06 and the "realinged" suspension settings featured on the willow springs retest car top kek
> gm fangirls completely wrecked just like the unreliable shit box they love so much
>>14959801
Ok.
Faster at Laguna, the lightning lap, and the fig8
Is that good enough?
>>14959846
until it overheats
KEK
>>14959844
Or just like a z06 is faster at the lightning lap? VIR? Laguna?
Can you answer those?
>>14959746
Okay what car do you own im just curious friend
>>14959848
>LIMP MODE
>>14959846
They aren't head to head comparisons done on the same day. I couldn't care less about results from different days in different conditions.
In every head to head test the z06 gets btfo by the gtr, fact. Sorry not sorry
> top gear red Bull ring
> motortrend willow springs
Lol
>>14959855
See >>14959861
:^)
>>14959859
a bus pass i imagine.
>>14959859
a Ford GT
in Gran Turismo
>>14959860
What car Do you drive Alphonse?
>>14959668
What car do you drive anon
>>14959861
Motortrend fig8
Lost to a rwd car...
Car and driver chose it over the nismo and turbo S for better handling
Doesn't matter same day or not. If so then stop bringing up the nurburgring because "they didn't do it on the same day hurr durr"
>>14959861
>using lol
newfag
>>14959890
Cobalt SS turbo
>>14959801
You mean a new suspension preset for the z06?
"Until this point, Chevrolet had done most of its development testing at newer and smoother Virginia International Raceway, Road Atlanta, and at its Milford Proving Grounds. The car hadn’t been developed on a rough track, which is why Pobst complained it was too harsh at Willow Springs and was beating him up. Pobst actually preferred to run the car with the suspension in the softer Sport mode. As a result of this new testing at Spring Mountain and additional testing at Willow Springs, Chevrolet developed a new Rough Track mode for the Z06 that softens the dampers in Track mode. Chevrolet plans to make this software update to the Z06 available soon through the GM Performance Parts catalog, and our test cars at this retest were both fitted with the new software." Try harder faggot
>>14959888
>>14959888
One that doesn't shit it's engine after 800 miles.
>>14959895
Figure 8 meaning anything... lol
> hey bro race me around a figure 8 just let me set the witches hats up first!
Roflmao
Does matter same day or not, sorry you don't know anything about performance driving :^)
I'm bringing up nurburgring because gm spent three months there and came up with nothing worth releasing bevause the pos z06 was running on 300hp by the time it crossed the finish line
Races aren't won on the first lap. I hope you understand that, underage gm faggot
>>14959888
Your mother.
>>14959929
Those fine tuned setting were never released. Seems pathetic that gm needs to go back and fine tune settings over a weekend of testing just because they cant deal with losing to an abused press car gtr not running on the minimum required octane fuel. Try again faggot.
>>14959790
Sure. The climate control unit in their Zonda is from a much cheaper Rover.
The implication being they'd take cheap parts from other makers and slap some glitzy covers on it to make it look upscale without designing their own stuff from scratch.
Depending on your taste, the huayra is a bit garish inside as well.
>>14959960
>abused press car
>gtr
Top fucking lel
That corvette was the car that was used in all media outlets. Why do you think its suspension was fucked?
>Those fine tuned setting were never released
Just like the nismo's nurburgring suspension tune kek
>>14959957
Gm fangirls are easily upset
Just look at the last tournament of Champions Lol. Several months and countless thousand posts of gm ass mad
>>14959981
> nismos nurburgring suspension
You mean the n attack package? That's a real thing unlike GMs damage control fine tuned settings :^)
>>14959938
Kinda pathetic that an awd dct car couldnt beat a rwd manual around a short circuit.
>Does matter same day or not, sorry you don't know anything about performance driving :^)
benchracing doesn't count
>I'm bringing up nurburgring because gm spent three months there and came up with nothing worth releasing bevause the pos z06 was running on 300hp by the time it crossed the finish line
It handling is fine you autistic fuckwit. The first few production models produced metal in the oil system causing engine failure. The actual attempt ended in a crash due to the weather.
>Races aren't won on the first lap. I hope you understand that, underage gm faggot
Tell that to nissans LM team that failed miserably
>defending a gtr
You are the epitome of an underage car enthusiast kek.
>>14960028
>The first few production models produced metal in the oil system causing engine failure.
what, no damage control explanation for all the corvettes that overheat after a few minutes of hard driving?
>>14959997
>"n attack"
>Developed for the nring
>The corvette rough track preset
>developed for big willow
See the correlation?
Why don't mods ban Alphonse on sight?
>>14960028
> all this ass mad
> completely ignoring the fact the z06 has horrible cooling and the ecu is designed to retard spark when shit gets heated, severely reducing power and putting the car into a limp mode, often with in as little as 2 miles of spirited performance driving
stay upset kid
>>14960065
mods know gm can't compete
mods know the truth
>>14960067
The ECU is the retard spark. That is the problem with the car. Its only there for emmissions
>>14960067
After several laps on the track or a few hard acceleration runs on the highway, owners of the brandy new Super Vette are reporting noticeable power loss from the supercharged LT4 V8. Originally it was thought that it was heat soak from the supercharger, but, it is, in fact, conservative tuning of the ECU to help the drivetrain survive for 100,000 miles as well as allow the Z06 to meet stringent US emissions regs.
Chevy knows that this is happening, but feels that almost every Z06 owner will be totally satisfied with their car, and if they aren't, there are aftermarket tuners that they can go to that'll gladly liberalize that ECU to give it more unrestricted power and loosen up its views on the legalization of marijuana.
The ecu is a piece of shit. Causes the car to overheat
>>14960047
Not really. One is a purpose built car, intended for time attack use.
The other is some damage control bullshit from gm because they couldn't deal with losing to the gtr in a head to head comparison
>gm fangirls this assmad
>>14960111
>still ignoring that the corvette is faster
>Continues bitching about it's big willow tune
Sad part is im not even a z06 fanboy
>>14960105
> conservative tuning of the ECU to help the drivetrain survive for 100,000 miles
ROFLMAO
And the ecu causes the car to overheat.... lol do know anything about cars at all? Idiot
>>14960128
> faster
> loses to a 10 year old platform in every head to head comparison
Roflmao
>>14960132
"Originally it was thought that it was heat soak from the supercharger, but, it is, in fact, conservative tuning of the ECU to help the drivetrain survive"
>ECU helps overheat
General Motors has found that in many cases of 2015 Corvette Z06 owners having overheating issues, there is air in the cooling circuit of the intercooler unit. These air pockets can cause the intercooler to function less efficiently, so before sending the car off to Motor Trend for the driver’s car testing, the car was fully serviced and the intercooler’s coolant system was checked to be clear of air. However, when the technician hooked everything back up after completing the standard check-up, he or she did not correctly hook up the wiring harness for the intercooler unit. It was connected well enough that the Corvette Z06 ran fine leading up to the Motor Trend track tests, but it was loose enough that it caused the intercooler system to fail at times.
This caused the intercooler system of the new Corvette Z06 to stop functioning correctly and when intake air temperatures climbed through the roof, the LT4’s PCM cut power to protect the engine from the high temperatures. As a result, power was greatly reduced, leading to the decreased performance and Pobst comparing the most track capable Corvette to the 1962 Ford Falcon.
>Motortrend engine failure
Question is, do you?
Obviously missed the part about thinking the cars issue is heatsoaked. When the first Z06 cars hit the tracks there were some complaints about heat soak. There was also considerable talk about how the performance was dialed down because of a soft tune when the temperatures got hot.
>>14960185
Tldr; corvette is an unreliable piece of shit and cuts power on purpose bevause gm knows it's an unreliable piece of shit
>gm fangirls still this assmad
Here, have an ass.
>>14960200
GM FANGIRLS ETERNALLY BTFO
>>14960221
have some literal GM assmad
>>14960238
kek
>>14959518
>/o/ in charge of being productive and not having the same autistic arguments a million times a day
>>14960268
>/o/ in charge
>>14959818
woah are all americans this fucking retarded?
the difference here is the parts made for the nurburgring were not done after losing a head to head comparison like the "REALLIGNMENT" damage copntrol GM engaged in after losing
let's not forget the fact that there is video footage of the nismo lapping the nurburgring, and there isnt one for the corvette
also, what is funny is that the z06 was released almost 2 years ago, they have taken the car to the nurburgring 3 times, and they haven't posted the fastest time achieved by any of the three
the new c7 is literal garbage, its funny when cucks like you try to defend it and get BTFO
>>14959957
How did you become a mod on this board, Alphonse? Who decided to let an autistic chimpanzee be in charge of anything?
>>14960271
>/o/
>>14959015
Sync 3 is pretty good anon
>>14959124
Bad bait
>>14959226
LOOK AT ALL THOSE SCREENS!
WE FUTURE NOW!
>>14959029
Fiat engines are reliable as fuck, silly.