How in the fuck is this company alive?
For contrarians sake
>>14907878
gubment
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>>14907878
Good question. Sometimes you look at Chrysler and wonder if they are actually trying to keep it alive at all.
If I were them I would have made the dart appealing rather than scrapping it, and start developing a small fuel efficient V8 (because Americans fucking love V8s even if they are gutless V8s) jam that small V8 into anything that could possibly take it.
???
Profit.
Also a few years down the line I'd bring back Plymouth and put them in a slightly cheaper entry level position.
>>14907878
I honestly didn't know they were.
>>14907878
Any American car company
ftfy
>>14907910
Americans love displacement as well so anything under 5L would be scoffed at
>>14908029
>let me tell you about a country I've never been to and only see about through our media
Why do americans make cars? They're all decent to shit.
>>14907878
Cummins engines. Also niggers like their cars.
>>14907878
They had the right idea in the 80s when they put turbos in everything.
Do it again dammit.
>>14907878
People like cheap cars
I don't know what type of deal or whatever Fiat is doing now, but i'm seeing goddamn fiat 500s and jeeps everywhere now
>>14908029
Not really, I'm talking the general public, who probably doesn't even know what displacement is. All they would see is the V8 badge on the side of the car.
A 3ish liter V8 would be perfect, and for the performance crowd slap some tarbos on it. It's not like 3 liter V8s haven't existed in America before anyway. In the 50s pretty much every car maker had something about that small.
>>14908090
Because despite what the internet told you, they're not all shit. Over the last six or so years the US has gotten its shit together, even Chrysler makes a few cars that aren't terrible.
If they fix their glass transmission issues and up their build quality a notch they might not be utter shit.
>>14908108
This, they went insane with the turbochargers and i liked it. I liked it a lot.
They only realized how ridiculous their shit was when a minivan was almost as fast as a mustang back then and only then they realized their shit was stupid as fuck. They didn't stop though, they moved on to bigger turbos and intercoolers, which gave life to some of the fastest cars back then.
Hate all you want on Chrysler, but sometimes they can be based as fuck with their zero fucks given attitude, see the Vipers and the Hellcats for example.
They should go on a new mad spree with the Hellcat engine, imagine a AWD hellcat van.
>>14908159
Chrysler, and Dodge specifically, are really what's keeping FCA afloat right now. Fleet sales for Dodge have always been good, enthusiasts and normies alike love the Chargers and Challengers in every trim. Toss on top that RAM and Jeep are more successful than ever and the company is looking great.
Hell, Dodge even took the #2 truck sales position a little while back. They didn't maintain it, but it was a first in almost 20 years. Chargers have the highest blue book value retention on the market, as well.
I mean, it could really go either way for them right now. Another recession would gut them, but if the market stays stable for another decade, they could become a real viable part of the Big Three again.
Jeep
>>14907910
The Dart and Chrysler 200 were selling well. It was scrapped because Fiat wants more crossovers and they don't have the manufacturing capability to make the engines for both compact cars and crossovers.
>>14908252
>Chrysler, and Dodge specifically, are really what's keeping FCA afloat right now
What by making money from massive recalls due to faulty parking systems causing vehicles to roll away?
>>14908214
I dont think you should equate what Dodge is doing to Chrysler. Especially now that Chrysler is under FIAT, they're really just another arm of FIAT like Jeep and Dodge are, except Dodge is currently experiencing one last swansong with the Viper/Hellcats, while Jeep is actually doing a good job of using their brand image to market upwards.
Chrysler, as in just Chrysler, the cars, is fucked.
>>14908157
americans love v8s because the chevy block and its bastard children have been in production for 50+ years so there is epic after market support. literally every performance shop and parts store caters to them. which is why you can always find parts for them. go and search for "chevy glass rocker cover" then go and google for "twingo turbo kit" and see how many you find.
>>14908972
jeep needs to go back to building 4wd trucks. now its all towncars with doors you need to build racks in your garage for because they're removable.
Could Chrysler ever break free from Fiat?
Or are we doomed to never return to the glorious past where our roads were not polluted by Italian econotrash?
>>14907883
came here to post this. All hail our glorious Italian overlords!
>>14908972
I really want to like Chrysler becaus tarbos everywhere and some insane cars, but them dying or getting rekt by Benz really doesn't help, especially when their cars are utter shit right now.
>>14909025
It's much more likely that FCA will fold, and Jeep gets sold to Ford (for SUVs), Chrysler and Dodge get killed off and Alfa/Maserati are acquired by a Chinese company and revitalized a la Volvo.
That's what I expect will happen in 3-5 years.
>>14909063
Will never happen. Both the American and Italian governments will step in before that will happen. FCA is important to both the American and Italian economies. Without them, we surely would have another 2008 financial crash.
>tfw family likes to buy chryslers
Went through spirits, shadows, liberty, wrangler, ram 1500.
The Shadows were alright as a cheapo car, I remember them being alright, the manual at least, the auto one was pretty archaic.
The ram was really fun, underutilized in the end though, learned stick on this one.
I wasn't fond of the rest (the wrangler was one of those new 4 door ones, and it was 4x2 so I just felt like a dumb fakeass driving one).
I think it's mostly the jeepfags, the Ram, and Challenger/Charger keeping them afloat.
I've owned a couple of Chryslers. They weren't terrible but they weren't good either.
>>14909137
>tfw still driving a Spirit
183000 and counting. Has it's issues and doubt it can last more than another year without transmission work and engine work though. Might have to thicken up the oil due to the consumption.
>>14909137
Shadows are awesome. The automatics were archaic because it was a 3 speed automatic, the same one used in the later Neon. They were especially glorious if you managed to track down the rare turbocharged variants.
>>14909276
If Chrysler went back to this kind of vehicle they would do way better.
Simple, small, cheap, no nonsense cars.
Instead we're getting rebranded fiats, cramped interiors, terrible touchscreens, huge heavy bodies, etc.
I mean, one large sedan here and there is totally cool, like the charger is pretty cool and has good sales in my country, but other than that I miss the simple small unassuming Chrysler of the 90s.
I know they're shit, but I'm still tempted to buy a Fiat 500 Abarth.
>>14909274
My first car was a 1989 Dodge Spirit Turbo I.
>those feels.
>>14909341
Tried one, out of the showroom they feel cool.
But I then tried some used ones and they don't hold up well, cheap as fuck as expected from fiat.
>>14909276
Its neat to see how much they hyped up something that would be considered an econobox nowadays.
>>14908019
Ford,Tesla
Turbo II 5 speed manual reporting in.
Out there to represent USDM superiority in EU.
>>14909453
Ford makes shit that people buy up because it's the most recognized brand. Tesla survives on Tweets and tax payer money is used to help buy each car.
>>14907878
Jeeps. Lots and lots of Jeeps.
>>14909453
Ford almost went under in 2006. They avoided bankruptcy by mortgaging EVERYTHING the company owned and gambling the company's future.
Chargers, Challengers, and Jeeps sell very well.
200s, 300s, and Town & Countrys sell alright.
>>14908171
it isn't 1999 anymore
>>14909276
Aw shiet that car looks sexy. I love that boxy 80s look.
>>14909334
Agreed, that would be a welcome change.
>>14909343
This one is NA, sadly not lucky enough to get the Turbo I. Then again this one is pretty damn easy to work on. Not sure how much a Turbo would complicate things.
>>14910103
The Turbo II is retarded easy to work on, the Turbo I is even simpler. Only hard parts would probably be like swapping the turbo for a bigger one as it sits behind the engine and very close to the firewall
From what I've heard they got fucking robed blind by Mercedes wile they were 'partnered'. basicly took all their ram and jeep profits and were alowed next to nothing to actually develop new vehicles. They only got some then old e class parts out of the deal, which resulted in the 300, etc. This is why I have a hard time hateing on them to bad, their fiat partnership is doing well for them so far.
>>14910335
I remember the Daimler/Chrysler merge, they made a mention of it on SNL's fake news bit. I still remember it.
>>14910335
They got fucked over big time by Daimler, that's a fact. They got some awesome pieces out of the partnership like the all popular all aluminium 2.7 litre V6, which everyone loves and knows from the popular cars such as Dodge Stratus and baseline 300.
Also extremely dangerous cars like the Chrysler ME412 were pushed back and cancelled because FASTER THAN A MERC AT HALF THE PRICE CAN'T HAVE THAT
Also the Dodge T-Rex which was deemed FUCKING STUPID, but later sold as the 6x6 G class Benz at like three times the price.
>>14910359
Damn. I wonder if there's any hope for Chrysler, their story is a sad one.
>>14910393
They'll probably chug along like a, well, broken Chrysler, for a couple of more years.
They're that one company that always barely stays afloat and still somehow manages to make it in the end.
They are a big part of Fiats US arm now though, take it as you will.
I for one kinda welcome our new Italian overlords as they have some beautiful cars too.
It's a shame that EU won't be getting any more Chryslers though, they're mostly rebadged as lancias and sold only in like Italy, whereas the UK gets some LANCIAS rebadged as Chryslers, like the Ypsilon and such.
>>14907878
Chrysler has been kept afloat by dodge and jeep. If chrysler were an independent brand surely they would have failed by now.
>>14910435
Its been that way pretty much since day one, except back then they had both Dodge and Plymouth to keep their heads above water.
>>14907878
This prick-mobile right here. Jeep sales, as a whole, were up a staggering 25% from 2014 to 2015. Gas is cheap, their style is bangin, and Americans don't read Consumer Reports or just don't give a flying fuck about reliability. These things are flying out the door, with options, more than compensating for awful Dart sales.
Jeep and Ram together are probably enough to keep the company profitable, despite the best efforts of other Chryslers and Dodges.
>>14910469
Adding a four-door model helped Wrangler sales greatly.
>>14909480
> not knowing Tesla's biggest source income
Hint: it starts with a "C" and ends with "AFE regulations credits from other automakers." And if you're trying to discredit them for this, you're wrong because it's actually a tactical and effective business move.
Also,
> people only buy Ford because it's recognizable
is bullshit because, as part of the Big Three, Dodge and Chrysler are equally recognizable. Yet we're not in a thread questioning why Ford is still alive. Hmmm, I wonder why that is...
>>14908937
As opposed to Fiat failing in every American demographic, Maserati being one of the slowest selling luxury brands, and Alfa barely clinging to life? Yes. Dodge is the single most profitable aspect of FCA right now. They make money hand over fist for where they are in the market.
Dodge may not be as effective as Ford or Chevy, but they are also still digging their way out from the Daimler era.
>>14908502
>the dart and 200 were selling well
http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/chrysler/2016/04/11/dodge-cuts-prices-dart-compact/82889610/
>>14910469
Jeeps are such pieces of shit that eat money, but they are so fun I'm buying one again.
Rams don't offer anything over other trucks, in fact, why buy a Ram when the F-150 is just there and it werks? (I don't like fords though) Or you could buy a nissan hardbody or hilux (outside the US).
I do think Rams are the best looking since 1990something though, the recent F-150 has that weird new Ford look, Chevys always looked terrible imo (even if they are good trucks).
>>14910335
The sad fact is, Chrysler has had some of the most innovative and resilient engineers in the business. Coming out of the Daimler era, they produced some incredible cars with no money and over a decade of having their R&D department cut down.
The 5.7 Hemi is the champion of all of this. In a time where Chrysler was being gutted by Daimler, they produced one of the most efficient, push rod V8s the world has ever seen. An engine which has not only endured, but performed incredible feats in the hands of enthusiasts and competitive racers alike.
Hell, this company, down on its luck and getting kicked repeatedly in its ribs by all of its competition, has taken an ancient platform with a decade old, derivitive engine and crushed TA2. They took a 25 year old supercar, updating it sparingly, and killed every track time they took on.
Chrysler is an incredible underdog story.
>>14910606
Chrysler as a whole is fucking insane, but that insanity has given us some real gems.
>>14907878
Ill never own a chrysler for as long as i live, the partnership between daimler, and FCA now has destroyed that brand.
Whats really destroyed them is the quality of there product and the horrible and i mean HORRIBLE wiring problems these vehicles have.
I feel like the 300 was the first truly respectable American car made in a long time.
>>14910633
if only people knew that was more mercedes than american.
The dodge challenger is basically a mercedes suspension and unibody with a hemi stuffed under the hood.
>>14910644
Literally one generation , and it was a horrible generation to own (if you're into mods)
According to my dad they are the cheapest american car to own.
That's why he buys them.
Dunno how true it is, but thanks to him I can't hate Chrysler even if they aren't the best.
>>14910660
Once you own one you start rooting for them.
>>14910606
>Chrysler is an incredible underdog story.
Fiat Chrysler is a story of poor reliability.
>>14907883
>faggot Italians attempt transportation
>>14908214
t. chrysler shill
>>14910586
>Or you could buy a nissan hardbody
Thanks for the input, 1996. We appreciate you.
>>14910868
too bad I rarely see chryslers from 1996
oh wait, there's a reason why
they're fucking shit
>>14908029
>implying the general public even knows what displacement is
>implying Tyrone wouldn't drop his entire gubment welfare check on a down payment for a Chrysler 300 with the optional "muh vee-ate" performance package
>>14910692
I've owned two, knew their faults, and still look back with Rose tinted glasses, I still think I should have kept my LH car, and yes they did do some cool shit but they also made some Class A turds
>>14910644
Not really. The suspension is based on the W220 S Class, along with the steering column and some electrical stuff.
Everyone and their mother claims they are rebodied W210's, but if you actually look under both you'll see that is not the case.
>>14908252
#2 in truck sales. GM and ford has literally outsold them for like 40 years straight
>>14907910
>owns a dart
I'm kinda mad about that too. Ford jumped at the opportunity to make a small awd turbo sports car and Dodge is still like "uhhh what if make v8 faster??"
If they actually decided to make a sport edition of the Dart with an SRT4 that's awd it would sell great. It'd still be overshadowed by the RS but it would still sell
>>14910627
Dodge is the only one of the big three staying true to their roots at this point, what the fuck are you talking about? Quality has been on the upswing for six years and the new Pacifica, Challenger, and RAM interiors are awesome.
>>14911080
March 2014. Ram beat Chevy for the first time since 1999.
>>14911114
Blame Fiat. They don't want competition for the Abarth.
It's sad because there are turbo modded Darts that are retarded fast.
They should just reanimate Virgil Exner and go absolutely hog wild with the styling. If they die because they don't sell they at least died proudly
>>14911126
The abarth literally has the same motor as the dodge dart 1.4t which is what I have. I wouldn't say its fast but with my mods and tune it does alright for what it is
>>14911158
>They should just reanimate Virgil Exner and go absolutely hog wild with the styling.
THE FURY WILL LIVE AGAIN!
>>14908502
Dart/200's are huge pieces of shit.
>From what I've read anyway
>>14911180
I want to put a Fury body onto a 392 Charger chassis so bad.
>>14908157
>he thinks people would want 3 liter V8s
You're a fucking madman
>>14911313
I want a 1.8l V6
>>14909274
I'm rolling in my mom's Dodge Spirit R/T. I can't wait to buy it from her.
Why don't they do multiple variations of the 300? People apparently fucking love the styling so they could make the 200 shorter and with a coupe version available, keep the 300 as is and introduce a slightly bigger but way more luxurious Imperial, with a V12 option or something as a way to re-position themselves as a real luxury brand. Maybe even a crossover. Kind of like what Cadillac does, all of their cars look like the CTS, even the CRX
>>14911341
Aww shiet the Spirit R/T. I heard the torque steer was pretty bad on those though. Still want one in pristine condition if I could find it. They look pretty great.
>>14909137
>>14909274
>>14909343
>>14911341
I learned how to drive in my dad's 91 Spirit with the Mitsubishi SOHC V6. I loved that car. He junked it last year because it was starting to cost too much money to maintain and wasn't worth shit anyway ;_;
>>14911313
There is this bizarre thought among some benchracers that a small displacement, turbo V8 would be successful. These people are retarded. A V8 has to be powerful in a N/A form to be successful. Forced Induction has to be an augmentation of existing power to make for a successful V8.
Examples: Ford GT, Hellcat, Agera R.
>>14911424
Wasn't the Agera R designed with its tarbos from the very start?
>>14911406
>He junked it last year because it was starting to cost too much money to maintain
That was the problem with the 6G72 engine. The ONLY reason it even existed as an option was the boomers who bought those cars new wanted to brag about the number of cylinders they had.
Nevermind the 4 cylinder turbos made more power and torque.
Nevermind the 4 cylinder turbos were more fuel efficient and cheaper to maintain.
The V6 from Mitsubishi was a piece of SHIT. It was an unreliable, inefficient turd that ONLY existed on the options list because
>muh V6
That V6 was what started Chrysler getting a reputation for unreliability when it wasn't their fault.
>Why a 4 banger? WE WANT A V6!
>>But we don't have a V6 we can use, plus the 4 banger does everything you need and want.
>WE WANT A V6!
>>>Hello Gentleman. mitsubishi here... I think we have a solution...
>>14911467
This is why I liked the SRT-4. Not sure about it's major flaws but it was ugly. The Neon was already an ugly duckling and then they riced it out from the factory goddamn. Still, it was pretty quick.
i bought mine for $1,600.00
had it 2 years now and things are still fine
electrical gremlins like dash lights going out and features not working are present, but they switch now and them
>Hit pothole
>seats can no longer adjust but hey passenger windows work again!
>ride over bump
>clock stops working but backlight for HVAC turns back on
>sometimes power locks won't work but if I turn the car on/off repeatedly it fixes the problem
>sometimes windshield wipers won't turn on, but if I open all the windows and honk then it works, something about pulling all that power unfucks whatever s causing the wipers to not work
>>14911424
I mean it's a cool novel idea in theory, like the Boxer or Wankel engines, it would have a cool factor
>>14911467
Funny, we never had any problems with the engine and 2bh it was kinda peppy for its age, faster than most smaller moder DOHC I4 at least. It was mostly the tranny, suspension and badly rotting frame that made my dad decide it was time to buy another cheap shitbox (a 98 Malibu, didn't last long but now he has a fully optioned 04 Mazda6 with the Ford V6 with a sketchy transmission)
>>14911507
My 92 Spirit has power everything and surprisingly they all still work. The front windows are having trouble staying on their tracks and the weather stripping is in rough shape but the motors and switches all work.
The only weird electrical stuff is the sound coming through the speakers when I accelerate, a buzz. The radio is some dollar store tier POS that the previous owner put on but hell it works. Just barely.
Been thinking about a better aftermarket radio but hell I'm about ready to get a newer car anyway.
>>14911507
This is what happened when Daimler got ahold of Chrysler in 1998.
Fuck you Bob Eaton. I hope they murder you you sonuva bitch.
>>14910103
>Aw shiet that car looks sexy. I love that boxy 80s look.
Carroll Shelby himself even did a performance version called the Shelby CSX. 175 HP 2.2L Turbo 2.
>>14911559
>>14911581
granted i still think the 300m is a beautiful car and it's really comfy. I call it the green egg(cause i'm the ham)
>>14911588
Man so many gems that fall through the cracks. Shelby seems to have been really active in these years. Nowadays the only Shelby I hear about is the mustang, if he still does that sorta stuff these days that is.
>>14911372
Yeah, good fucking luck finding one, they're unicorn status
>>14911605
Had a 99 Concorde LX with the 3.2, lost my virginity on it, I loved that car
>>14910841
They are the reason Chrysler is still around today.
>>14910586
Nissan trucks suck dude. Opinion discarded.
>>14911461
The intention was to turbo the engine, but the block itself was outsourced because of its N/A power. Current Agera engines are custom made by Koenigsegg, but the 305 ci engine is incredibly powerful without boost.
>>14911681
>if he still does that sorta stuff these days that is.
Carroll Shelby spends these days lying in a box 6 feet undeground.
Though FCA recently did pay homage to him with the Dodge Dart GLH concept car that they showcased at SEMA in 2015.
>>14909046
you must have downs, Consumer italian cars are bad and always will be bad.
>>14911724
>>14911682
Yeah I know, pretty sad.
>>14911724
Well there you have it. RIP Shelby
>>14911180
dumb ass.
he could have jumped on the hood and hop over the car no problem.
>>14907883
yeah but they're dropping that line and keeping the jeep/dodge/ram line up.
>>14911867
>fat kid jumping
no.
>>14911117
Who cares if it just beats Chevy? GMC+Chevy outsell it by a lot.
>>14911973
Because it's fucking historic. RAM kills the fleet and 1 ton markets, but for them to actually oust Chevy, even for one month, in the greater sales metrics is incredible.
You have to understand the big picture here. Chevy alone moves a metric ass ton of trucks every month. RAM is usually significantly lower, or at least used to be. The last few years, though? They're way closer in margins.
After the shit show that was Daimler Chrysler, them coming back like this is incredible.
>>14907878
The new Chrysler 200 got the highest possible safety ratings.
>>14911424
mclaren is pretty successful and all of their cars use a twin turbo 3.8L V8
Why do Americucks even bother.
The only good """" American""""" cars have always been euro Fords.
>>14913584
>Built in America on an American platform
>Outperforms everything it competes against
>>14911313
Hey at least it's something new, I'd probably buy one anyway. They say one of the first rules for designing a car is to make one you'd want.
Plus ford had a very successful 4.6 V8. A 3.6 wouldn't be that much of a stretch. Plus Maclaren pulled their 3.whatever twin turbo V8 off pretty well.
All I'm saying is it can be done, and it would be better then sitting around with their thumbs in the asses like they are doing now in regards to economy/entry level cars.
>>14909341
Don't get one as your only car.
>>14913634
>pigfat garbage
>can't turn
>zero visibility
>looks like shit
Driving in a straight line isn't "competing", americuck.
>>14915962
>200 lbs lighter so not pigfat
>Alpha chassis so can turn
can't argue against that
agreed.
But the performance numbers, even AROUND a track are identical to a BMW M4. For less money too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D87tO7VUs2I
If you had said the Mustang can't turn, I'd be inclined to agree, but the Camaro has literally turned the muscle car market on its head by being an honest to god sports car.
>>14913634
>built in China
>can't into visibility
Ftfy
>>14917157
>>built in China
Assembly: Lansing, Michigan, United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Camaro_(sixth_generation)
try again.
Because:
-They know how to sell to the USDM market (in terms of styling/features)
-They know how to maximize features per dollar on the price tag of their cars
-Boat anchor depreciation means they sell like crazy in the used market, and keep people engaged in the band
It's the reason people ooh and ahh over a Odyssey Grand Touring Limited, then walk down the street and buy a fully loaded T&C for a third of the price
>tfw I'm part of the reason why FCA exists
I have no shame.
>>14917185
>It's the reason people ooh and ahh over a Odyssey Grand Touring Limited, then walk down the street and buy a fully loaded T&C for a third of the price
And its reliability will be garbage compared to the Odyssey.
Americans are retarded.
>>14917250
>And its reliability will be garbage compared to the Odyssey.
Most Americans trade in their cars well before major service is needed. The debt cycle is currently making cars look more reliable than they are.
Pops and popop both worked for Damnliar Chrysler.
>>14915419
small V8's were common in the late 50's/60's.
There was the buick/olds 215 (3.6L), Ford 260 (4.3L), Chrysler 273 (4.5L), AMC 250 (4.2L) etc.
>>14917250
http://www.odysseytransmission.com/
>>14917250
>>14917684
>tfw you find out the Chrysler T&C is actually more reliable than the Honda Odyssey
>>14917744
The T&C is the (for now) surviving old true american minivan. It'll be killed for the pacifica, but other than those, what have we left for mediocre families?
There's them and the asian ones only right now.
It's kinda weird, I never liked this kind of minivans but at the same time it's weird to see them fade away in favour of crossovers.
>>14917250
>>14917261
Of course long term reliability will be medicore, I don't think ANYONE is under the illusion that FCA is anywhere near the top of the pile in build quality or reliability. They've simply constructed a business model that, for the time being, allows them to bypass that.
You're average consumer isn't going to drop 50K plus for a top tier Honda when you can get a decked T& C for 15K less. And the divide gets even more ridiculous in the used market. Add to that FCA is much more aggressive with sub prime financing AND the fact that FCA is the last game in town offering a real domestic minivan
>>14917860
It's kinda weird but at the same time the original minivans were much smaller than even those of the 90's. The last surviving of the older style minivans was the Mazda 5, which had almost the exact same dimensions as the original Caravan. And the Mazda 5 was killed sometime around 2015.
>>14908159
>in high school in 2008 - 2009ish
>IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS
>nearly ten years later
>IN THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS
>>14917929
no
>>14917952
That's a conversion van, not a caravan
OPTIMAL DISPLACEMENT = 1/2 CYLINDERS + 20%
I4 = 2.4L
V6 = 3.6L
V8 =4.8L
>>14917670
That's what I was saying anon. I think it might be time for the small V8s to make a comeback.
Could be good, and Chrysler is just crazy enough to try it.
>>14910561
Wasn't the Chrysler 200 doing pretty well until Sergio said "THIS CAR IS SHIT AND WE'RE GONNA STOP MAKING IT" and then sales fell off a cliff?
The Dart was a sales dud from the beginning. Early deliveries were optioned up in a way that 90% of buyers didn't want, probably pushing a lot of people to competitors, and the gas mileage sucks ass for a compact.
Maybe if they changed their badge like seriously I know its not a big deal and its probably a classic, but the logo alone screams old person car, same with Cadillac.
>>14910506
I thought Tesla's biggest source of income were investors who feel like the company could be the apple of their eye.
>>14918582
The 200 was simply a face lift on the old Avenger/Sebring model, and while they added a better trans, the pentastar, nicer interior, and restyled sheet metal, it still looked like the horrid Avenger/Sebring, which is why they did a complete redesign
>>14918582
>The Dart was a sales dud from the beginning. Early deliveries were optioned up in a way that 90% of buyers didn't want, probably pushing a lot of people to competitors, and the gas mileage sucks ass for a compact.
Eh, they are selling about 80K units a year on the dart in the US, so it's doing OK. The lack of an SRT-4 version of the Dart at this point in its life cycle is a fuck up for FCA however. Those would sell like crazy
>>14918673
First gen one was. The current model is a stretched Dart.
>>14918372
What about a V2?
>>14908090
sales number speak, the mustang outsold every other sports car in Germany at the moment, that's right, the fucking car perfectionists prefer the mustang over the TT.
What is best Chrysler?
Luxury Chrysler or cheap sedans and minivans Chrysler?
>>14921226
Luxury Chrysler is best Chrysler, all they were making prior to the LX chassis was shitty FWD "luxury" cars
It's practically dead: before long it'll be down to just the Pacifica and the 300, no?
>>14921262
LHS was comfy as shit.
So was the New Yorker, 300M and "Imperial".
>>14909137
JK wranglers only come in 4x4 you dummy
One thing that needs to be pointed out is that US Governments like to spend their tax monies for vehicles on American companies such as the Big Three.
I work for a state government agency and we only buy Big Three brands. I see a few Japanese brands such as Toyota for their Prius vehicle, but 99% of all vehicles are American brands. I figure they make their most money from US and State Governments.
>>14918755
Duh. A 1.2L
>>14922296
Now they do only come in 4x4 but not before. Just google 4x2 wrangler jk.
Will sergio save the company or fuck it up completely?
With his prospect to move to crossovers it seems like he's jumping late to a fad instead of focusing on building up the brand value again.
>>14922982
Fuggg. Well what the fuck is the point of even having a 2wd wrangler then? They should all be crushed
Fiats gonna make a kia soul competitor that's styled after the 500 maybe called fiat 600 and based on the dart and start using amber rear turn signals on all dodge chrysler jeep ram cars because they're better than some BMW with red led turn signals or a ferd with gay sequential turn signals
>>14923569
As a sort of Cherokee only meant for city use I guess, or because people like the style but they don't off-road. It was discontinued anyway, so the cancer is gone.
