Gear Debate Thread
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Which gear is objectively the best and why is it 2nd?
Jokes on you I have a CVT.
Top Gear.
final drive
>>14854968
Kek'd
i second the motion to nominate second gear for the title of best gear
>drop panties and piss off scrubs with mad rev sounds
>accelerate fast as fuck
how can overdrive gears possibly hope to compete
>>14854988
But third gear for speed range
>>14854953
>>14854988
>tfw shifting from 1-2 on a spirited drive at night after you round a tight corner and open up on a straight
>>14854988
Third for second. That's where most of the really fun stuff happens.
>>14855001
>driving spiritedly
>in first
It's like you don't even drive a diesel.
3rd gear is the only gear you need
>>14855024
1.6 turbodiesel desu senpai
4th gear
usually 1:1
>>14854953
3rd gear a best
I don't have enough grip to go WOT in first and second
2nd gear is best.
>crowded city
>1300cc fiat
>qt 3.1416 on passenger seat
>leave car in 2nd, keep it at 60 with steady throttle and start in 2nd at trafficlights
>finger her while driving
Thank you based 2nd ratio.
>>14854961
Joke is really on you, m8.
And third gear is best.
>>14855051
Get wider tires son
>>14855056
Not happening, can't fit anything bigger than what I have without flares and that would ruin my sleeper status.
Third.
First is only for starting or parking lots/places with speed bumps and shit. Second is only for low-speed residential streets.
Third can be used on any slightly larger street and I can remain in third all the way up to highway speeds.
3rd slightly beats out 2nd for me
>1st too short because lol jeep
>2nd gets me to 25 mph
>3rd goes til 55 ish
>that feel when you shift from 3rd to 12th
2-3 because my engine blows 120db out of the water with rolling all wheel burnouts deafening rev pop on the changeover
Neutral. Coasting is life.
>>14854953
For my car, 4rd is the best. I have a moderately built Focus ST so flooring it in either 2nd or 3rd usually ends up getting no traction.
Fuck FWD, never again will i go FWD.
>>14854968
>>14854982
Top kek'd
>>14855276
>what do you drive anon?
>a 4rd Focus
>>14855247
lol
>>14854953
I would say third gear because if I had to onl;y have one, that'd be it. Second is fun because of the pull it has, but third provides more range and is a good middle ground, plus if you have decent low end torque third can pull decently at lower speeds.
Of course it all depends how every car is setup but third for me.
4th.
>>14855276
how about get some non shit tyres before you start memeing.
in my car 1st and 2nd gear are absolutely awful
1st gear is useless
2nd gear doesn't use full boost so it feels slow
but 3rd gear
das it mane
>>14855414
Do you understand how weight transfer and 400ft/lb of torque at 2.8k rpm makes fwd laughable? I don't think you have ever driven anything fwd with any amount of power.
>>14855437
What car has FWD and 400lbs ft of torque?
Diesel Audi?
>>14855443
Focus ST with full bolt ons and aux fuel is at 360tq at the wheels or around 400ish at the crank.
>>14855451
Hows the clutch holding up?
>>14855443
My lightly tuned grand prix makes just shy of 350 to the front wheels.
>Supercharged v8 when ;~;
And he did say "moderately built"
>>14855462
Pretty good since I don't rape it because all I can do is burnouts or 4th gear pulls
Shit car: 3rd
Second can be an uncomfortable ride without the most careful throttle control possible, unless only accelerating
Fourth is too high, it's more of an overdrive gear for city streets
Fifth is another fourth
First is useless above 20-30mph because I have shit tires and a clutch that's heading out sometime soon
>>14855443
my car
>>14855501
>>14855451
>>14855463
Any car with that much power and FWD is either a cuck mobile or a rolling drag race car, both of which are gay as fuck and you should all commit suicide.
>>14855545
It pulls like a train once it hooks up, I do agree, I should get better tires.
>>14855545
or a comfortable highway cruiser that blows the doors off most boy racers in subarus and bmws
>>14855545
>His limp wrists can't handle a little torque steer
kek'd
>>14855557
>highway cruiser
>anything other than a diesel
>not getting that 6th gear overtaking power plus MPG
lmao total cuck territory over here boys
>>14855564
>take corner
>torque/under steer into a tree
top cuck
>>14855593
i get 24mpg and my 6th gear is monstrous
honestly my car might as well be a diesel it makes alot more torque than hp
>>14855612
Nice lie.
Depends on the gearing.
I used to do skids with 2nd gear on tight corners with my 4cyl BMWs, now I can't take the same narrow corners with 2nd properly with my 6cyl bimmer as it has longer gearing, I'm often using 1st gear now
>>14854953
>reverse is top left
who the fuck could even drive like that
>>14855630
>what is reverse lock out
>>14855648
>BMW
>reverse lock out
Push all the way to the left and forward, you're in reverse, no fucking lock out
i say depends on the car i like 3rd gear best in my friends viggen and i hate all gears in my rio
>>14855038
this. unity is best ratio senpai.
>>14855660
u have to push really hard and its much farther over to the right
you have to be a complete moron to mix reverse and 1st up
>>14855753
*left
not right
>>14855753
>put reverse right next to the other gear you shift to at a complete stop
or
>put reverse right next to the gear you only shift to at max speed
HMMMMM
2nd for the pulls
3rd for that perfect downshift from 4th while driving around town
6th for jealous plebs who don't have a 6th
>>14855811
I've driven a 6 speed before, I prefer 5 speed tbqh
>>14855001
HNNNGGNGNGNNG
I really only feel alive in these few moment
>>14855593
fwd is fucking fun the corners.
Have you never felt the experience of having your wheels pull you through a corner?
>>14855801
If you're at high speeds there's no way you're getting into reverse; your synchros will usually block you or at worst you'll just crunch it. I'd rather have this happen than accidentally shift into 1st or reverse (instead of the other gear) and not notice until I already smashed into something.
>>14855630
>>14855660
You're both retarded.
Reverse is waaaay over to the left relative to the other gears, it takes a shit ton of force to get it over there, and even if you do manage to be completely fucking retarded and accidentally get it over there, you're not going to be able to engage the gear. It will not let you. Just because your 1.6L japanese econobox lets you doesn't mean an actual well designed car is going to.
>>14855840
>I've never driven a RWD car and am lying to myself
>>14855801
but if its literally impossible to put it in reverse on accident then why does it matter
![1280px-2015-03-03_Geneva_Motor_Show_3314[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/j3492Qb.jpg "1280px-2015-03-03_Geneva_Motor_Show_3314[1].jpg")
>having gears
It's 2016
>>14855863
that was my point
>>14855867
>having to use a shit ton of force to engage a gear
>>14855874 see ^
>2015
>not having a car that can do 65mph in 1st gear in under 4 seconds
>>14855038
4th gear best gear
>>14855887
>2016
get a load of this retard
>>14855824
>not wanting to stir the gears more
commit suicide tbqh
>>14855753
>>14855867
>describe BMW 'lockout' exactly as it is
>retard
interesting perspective
>>14855840
nice bait
>>14855918
>>not wanting to stir the gears more
Not him but I own a 5MT and a 6MT and find the latter (notably 5th gear) pointless. It's more obnoxious than useful
>>14855918
>>not wanting to stir the gears more
if it saved RPM at max speed I'd be with you but all it does is kill acceleration
2nd gear isn't nearly as much fun on a 6 speed
>>14855925
>>14855940
I also drive a 6 speed car. I really don't see how a 5 speed can be more fun to drive unless it has a mountain of torque (for acceleration), and a high geared 6th for those sikk MPG's. 5th and 6th in my car are still geared retardedly short so you can use them both in spirited driving.
>>14855867
>Just because your 1.6L japanese econobox lets you doesn't mean an actual well designed car is going to.
They won't let you either, it will just grind. If by some miracle you manage to get it in while driving forward, have fun with your exploded transmission.
>>14855963
>be at stop light
>stop start 'technology' car
>go to put it into first
>its reverse
>try and take off as normal
>slam car into person behind
It's retarded to be honest. Having no lockout and reverse in such a place is just straight fucking dumb, I'm a BMW fanboy but still I couldn't believe they don't have a lockout on their 6 speed gearboxes. Fair enough you really have to slam the stick far to the side, but someone not used to it could quite easily mistake it for 1st, where-as if you had to pull a collar up or push the stick itself down, it wouldn't happen.
>>14855980
You don't udnerstand just how much pressure you need to put it into reverse dude, you can't just casually do it on accident. If you didn't know it was there you would think you're breaking something with the amount of pressure you need to apply.
>>14856001
I fucking own a 10 plate BMW with gearbox described. Mines only got 30k miles on so its not worn out, you really don't need that much pressure at all, I can easily see myself doing it by accident if I had no sleep at all and was in a hurry.
>>14854953
Don't have any gears. Auto masterrace.
>>14854953
2nd because autox gear lol
>>14856001
>>14856014
Actually I've put it in reverse at a stop light in a manual trans BMW, it was the only time in my life I mixed it up.
I was stuck in traffic at a traffic light, really stressed out as it was my first time driving a right hand drive car and my first time driving on the left side of the road (in the UK) and I didn't even feel that I had put it in the wrong gear because gear shifts with the left hand felt really weird and because of the stress.
I realized my mistake at the moment I started lifting the clutch though, and I put into first immediately.
Also it should be noted that I had less than 6 months of driving experience at the time.
So basically you have to be quite retarded to mess up the gears and crash in the car behind you
>>14855470
>rape
>>14856451
Thanks for proving my point, cuckold.
>>14854953
3rd gear
>>14855276
>4rd
>>14855872
>>14855918
see this is just bullshit /o/ rhetoric
>>14855545
>being this buttblasted
2nd-3rd gear shift at 90 mph
>>14855451
What tires are you using?
Third gear is literally perfect. There's nothing you can't do with it.
>>14857977
Reverse springs to mind first
>>14858330
Life is about moving forwards.
>>14854953
No, third is best. Second is just lurchy and only good for accelerating into third or crawling along. Third has best characteristics as long as you're under 30 and over 15.
P
It's the one that gets used the most.
I'm a fan of D, personally. R is nice too
>>14858450
My personal favorite is L.
>>14858458
>L for Launch
My face when.
>>14854988
2nd is the best. Mad acceleration and a decent speed range.
Most of the time you have to get out of first too quickly to have any fun, and by the time you get to third you'll have your car impounded.
>>14858450
>I'm a fan of D
Well known fact among automatic transmission drivers
>>14858450
fucking hell clean your car, thats disgusting
>>14855593
>saab
>cuck
choose one
2nd is most versatile, but not most fun.
That smooth power delivery in 3rd and 4th. You can pick one and follow it all the way through. Hnnng
>>14858525
2nd is definitely the most fun around tight corners, don't know what you're talking about there.
2nd gear is best. I refer to it as the workhorse gear, especially if you drive in urban settings. Most of the time you'll be in 2nd.
I use 2nd gear as a traffic jam gauge. If I can coast on 2nd on a congested highway means its not that bad and about to open up..
>>14858472
>He isn't a fan of D
>>14858450
Nice heated
3rd because the transition from 3rd to 4th is always a beautiful shift
>>14854968
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>>14858473
You're disgusting
>>14858827
I always drive with it on, the switch is stuck in place and I don't want to shatter the brittle 90's plastic by hammering it off
>>14858336
Except, occasionally you need to look back and see where you've been.
>>14854953
nope, third gear is love ... on autos it's ussually direct drive and on manuals it's all you need for city driving
>>14854953
Well I only have 3.....so I'll go with 2nd
>>14858834
Das it mane
A glorious shift it is my mang
>>14855038
Fucking this.
>tfw fast 2->3->4 shifting and then cruising in 4th gear
Drive is pretty good, but overdrive is better.
