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>Post your classics
>Discuss others
>Blogpost about your classic
>Circlejerk over each other's classics
>Post classic feels
>Post pictures of Classics
disappointed father headlights edition
Gonna start the 35mm dump I have of my family's cars from the 60's. Finally unflipped them all.
fucking hell lads, just had an experience and a half
>driving along highway for an hour, come to a set of lights every so often and give the 5.7 a push whenever I do
>this fucker in a prius comes up next to me while cruising
>clearly mad about something
>exit is coming up, need to take it
>try braking, he does too
>accelerate and try to merge across his lane in front of him
>he sees me accelerate and does too, hits my back
>do a 360 and slam headfirst into the wall
cont.
first for JDM is cancer
>>14854777
Holy fuck, here we go. I already feel extremely sorry for you.
>>14854777
>come to after accident, shit's blurry and everything hurts
>but I get out fine without major injury
>look back at car
>realise I was driving my newer commodore instead of my classic shitbox and that's why I lived
thank fuck for airbags
probs just gonna stick to new cars now
>>14854784
>implying
>>14854790
What's your classic shitbox and what happened to the cunt in the Prius?
>>14854790
got pics of the after accident damage?
>>14854799
Also this
>>14854790
dude what the fuck. did you call the police and put his ass in jail for aggravated assault?
Its been on bricks since I bought it and a year later I finally got to drive it around.
disk brake swaps are good.
I just want to drive Dwight's Firebird from The Office.
>>14854822
NOICE
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>>14854805
>that fucking 59 caddy
Its like a fucking cartoon, looks so weird just seeing one in its natural state. What a sweet fucking car.
>>14854799
valiant ch
>>14854805
it got towed, was too dazed at the time to think of taking pics though I shouldve
>>14854813
drove off, don't remember any other cars being around so no witnesses I think
don't think he was trying to hit me, just wanted to be a dick and block me but it went wrong
>>14854839
'59 cad is the ultimate definition of the 50s. that being said, I would prefer a 62 coupe deville
>>14854842
and people think america is dangerous
>just kidding
>hope you are alright actually
>fuck that guy
>>14854839
Right? God I wish I would just see one on the street. To this day I have only seen one once, and it was parked in front of a auto body place.
>>14854842
Christ man that sucks. If I were to die while driving my classic though, I certainly wouldn't of wanted it to be because of a god damn Prius.
Man, it must've been a fucking blast racing this thing back in the day.
>>14854852
there was a guy in town that had a '59 sedan deville in satin black. beautiful thing, was his second car and he dailied a 59 pontiac.
>>14854865
Fuck that's cool as shit. I wish I was getting more money with my settlement because I'd totally grab one.
>>14854790
I call bullsht commodore air bags don't work
how terrible are things like this and why do I want it?
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5531016545.html
>>14854873
>settlement
for what
>>14854842
Nice big body val.
I have a vc with a angry 318 and tubbed with 10s on it
>>14854851
it's hard to explain our drivers
most dangerous are the bogans really, in the city they drive commodores/falcons, sometimes utes or bigger 4x4s
in the outback they have landcruisers with huge bars and a million spotties
but sometimes these cunts enter a sort of rage that's hard to comprehend, if they think you've done something against them (cut them off etc) or don't like you for some reason then they'll just go blind with fury, there's vids of people being rammed then having the bogan jump on their bonnet and smash it bare-handed
there was a recent vid of a guy who walked up to a bus and punched the windshield till he broke through, heaps of blood but he didn't care
tl;dr hippies in priuses aren't that bad usually
>>14854883
Oh shit, just noticed that sick '59 Buick in the background.
>>14854887
For that price and those miles I think you will be good to go. Also, the settlement is for my back injury I got at work back in October of 2014. Finally getting money for it now.
>>14854915
>>14854920
that's awesome
>>14854904
I want to be comfy and that thing is comfy. also you gonna buy something good?
Last one. I wish they kept fucking any of them. Sadly, my grandparents were the type of people that would lease a car every couple of years.
>>14854925
Well I'm certainly not gonna buy something bad. My budget for a car is around 7k (10k if I really need it). At this point it's probably gonna be either a big comfy boat or a van. All I know is that the wait is killing me.
>>14854940
you could get an exceptionally nice classic for 7k....
>>14854902
I would expect abos to be the fucking ragey ones, I always thought bogans were just redneck cunts
I know what you mean by that blind fury shit too, in my days of playing CS, third world chimps go on a fucking CRUSADE if you wrong them in any way, even if you didn't even do anything wrong, to the point where they'll fucking single you out of a group of 4 people just to get you even if they're going to die for it.
I notice this shit happens with slavs for the most part.
>>14854944
Oh I know, especially out in California. I'm not worried at all about being able to find something. Just the excitement of getting something is killing me.
>>14854940
Even the baby strollers had chrome.
What the fuck HAPPENED TO US MAN, FUCK
IT WAS SO PERFECT
>>14854887
Rear windows on G body sedans don't roll down. Otherwise G bodies are kinda slow but comfy as fug. Well actually it'd probably feel like a rocket compared to your Ferd. If it has the overdrive trans it'll go way faster than the indicated 85 mph. Still if you're gonna get a 4 door get a B body.
>>14854970
jafeel blood, jafeel.
>>14855035
that being said, I am used to driving a 13 lacrosse with a 3.6l v6 and my CX500 motorcycle. still, I really want a Bronco II or a 2 door S10 blazer from the 80s. maybe a pathfinder but people don't talk about those as much
>>14854822
Very nice, at least progress is happening
>Post your dadrods
>Discuss others'
>Blogpost about your dadrod
>Circlejerk over each other's dadrods and who has the best Hawaiian shirt
>Post classic feels about the 60s and 70s and how those cars were superior to the shit made today. You can't even work on your own damn car anymore! It's pathetic! Fuck, if only you would have kept the car you had in high school you'd be rolling in money today after you sold it on Barrett Jackson.
>Post pictures of other dadrods
>>14855271
you fucking know it my dude
>>14855289
That car is worth AT LEAST $48,000 at auction in that condition.
1974 dropping 15 racks in it soon
>>14854859
I dont know what that is, but I want it.
>>14855338
Fuck ya, another elco.
What's the best entry level classic?
It was like 60+ degrees here in Chicagoland so I washed the car. One might even call it "squeaky clean"
Also might hit the track with my dad, possibly my cousin, and my dads friend with a 64 Chevelle with a 396
>>14856539
I hate to say it but, Mustangs. Parts are plentiful, cheap, they're easy to work on and as long as you're not looking for a pristine model, 60s Mustangs are not too expensive for something in Okay shape
>>14856595
But I want an Elco
>>14856637
Then go for that if that's what you want. You won't find any in decent shape for a decent price though, unless it's a late 70s one
>>14856650
I like the early 80's ones too though. I would love to have something japanese from the 70's or 80's but it's impossible to find anything decent that isn't over priced around here..
>>14854775
Blue Car in background is an early model Corvair 700 sedan.
I've got one but in red.
This is for sale relatively closeby
r8
>>14856760
10,000/10
>>14856760
>>14856760
is dat some 66 ford wagon?
>dick status: muh
>>14856781
>>14856768
>>14856767
its, its a 65' ford country sedan
for sale for 60k pesos -- around 3k usd
>>14856884
That is a damn good price
>>14856884
>decent exterior with minimal rust
>dual way tailgate
>probably an FE V8
>double sided barf benches
>3k
FUCK
>>14856893
>>14856898
It's pretty nice looking
>dat green on green on green everything
I'll see if i contact the seller tomorrow, it might be a bit too good to be true.
>>14856956
engine might be fukt but that thing looks like a hell of a deal if it is running. looks fucking mint and would make a great hot rod or cruiser.
>>14856972
Not really worried about the car itself, but getting fucking mugged/kidnapped.
Buying cars here from private sellers can be a little scary, even if its a cheap one.
>>14856517
Renault Dauphine. My grandfather used to race it frequently.
>>14856701
Fucking nice
>>14856989
>bring your cholo family members in a squad
>be safe
that's how it usually works in california at least.
What's the general consensus on older Jags?
>>14857085
can be unrealiable, more so if you are in a place like texas or somewhere that has weather that's the opposite of england. V12 will kill you in costs, XK i6 is great, lucas electrics are satan, good looks, don't buy a cheap jag, it will be anything but.
>>14857117
So the 420's on craigslist are going to cost more than the $3K they're listed for?
>>14857132
you can buy it for 3k, but you are going to pay out the ass on little shit fixing it constantly. some are tanks and need nothing, but a 3k car that cost 45k new 30 years ago is not a good idea.
So what's the consensus on what makes a classic car here?
pre-80s? pre-70s?
>>14856670
Do you live in a state where you need to smog it? If so, don't get anything newer than 79 or 80 because the computer Quadrajet is shit. Otherwise 78-87 G body El Caminos are great cars, I miss mine.
>>14857766
Based on their iconic status many '80s cars and even some early '90s cars could already be considered classics in an autocultural context, but we mostly talk about pre-'80s here. Every pre-'80s car is definitely a classic.
>>14858191
>Based on their iconic status many '80s cars and even some early '90s cars could already be considered classics in an autocultural context
Such as?
>>14858195
hey /o/, I need your advice. so this dude is selling a 59' Pontiac Star Chief close to where I live, but it's 32 grand. is this ignorance or is this car really that rare/desirable? I might just go for it though, pic related, it's drop dead gorgeous.
What is CCGs opinions on this:
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/british/20-saddest-scrappage-scheme-victims
fuck I wish these images had higher resolution
>>14854756
>DD 1961 Corvair with 110hp engine
>oil leaking from crank seal
>gay dodge Charger thinks he b gud
>launches off a stop sign
>naturally i have to show him he's shit
>keep on him, ride his ass up a hill
power/weight lads
also WOT throws exhaust into my interior
>>14858560
Thinking about buying a second generation Corvair, anything I should look out for?
>>14858368
I've seen them run that high for a really good restoration but it would have to be perfect in every way to command that price. The Star Chief is a really cool cruiser overall, but not as desirable as the Chevrolet equivalent. I can dig the teal paint as well, just a good color for cars from the 50s as it pairs well with white accents and chrome (and I'm not big on chrome).
>>14858605
Oil patches under the engine, fresh (relatively) oil lurking in niches in the engine bay, listen for tapping when the engine is cold (valve lifter knock is a big problem on 140hp heads). You'll hear a whirring but that's the massive fucking fan spinning.
A big oil leak spot is at the oil cooler, right under the alternator/generator.
look at the PCV system, the carbs starve without it working right.
look for patchwork or welded metal under the body.
Always run it with 11-16 psi on the front tires.
If it has 4 carbs, it has 140hp heads, 2 carbs is 110hp.
>>14858368
If it's had a complete resto, then that price would make sense
bumpage
>>14854756
>disappointed father headlights edition
I swear this tripfag must have ate his body weight in lead paint chips as a child.
>>14858127
Nah I live in Canadia, they scrapped emissions testing a couple years ago.
>>14859469
>t. Rudeboy
>>14858204
>unicorn worth half a million dollars
>classic
GEE YOU DON'T SAY
Now how about some cars that some of us will actually SEE in our lifetimes?
>>14859682
Then fuckin go get a G body El Camino and throw a 350 or a 5.3 Vortec in that sumbitch.
Question, was half vinyl ever an option, is this real? (72 charger in pic)
>>14860914
I know I have definitely seen it before on other cars.
>>14860914
Maybe dealer installed? Looks like shit desu. I always call them "receding hairline" vinyl tops.
>>14860914
Yes it was a factory option on 71-end chargers. Had to be an SE package as that was the highline trim.
>>14860914
Yes it was a factory option on 71-end chargers. Had to be an SE package as that was the highline trim.
>bamp
>>14859469
It could be called "Pee in a cup Edition" for all we care. Whoever makes the thread, names it whatever they fucking want to
One of these came into work today.
The dude just bought it and was getting an oil changed and everything checked over.
The body was in great shape, other than a little rear main seal leak, everything underneath was in great shape, factory undercoating was all doing well. Interior was in very good shape as well.
4.6 liter V8 had 295 000 Km on it and still sounded great.
>The guy paid $1350 for it
>Super jealous
>Wish I saw it for sale I would have bought it
>>14862423
>tfw no vinyl roof
Why are these so appealing.
>>14862360
>Whoever makes the thread, names it whatever they fucking want to
No shit. Thanks Capt Obvious.
>Camaro Performer just featured this BBC powered 2nd gen
It's like the internet is speaking to me.
Dynomax Bullets are a best
also bump
>>14862360
says the other tripfag
track day bro!
12.65 sec @ 105mph on radials
>>14862659
>implying I haven't been speaking to you for months telling you not to fall for the LS jew
make your engine look like this
>>14863303
>he doesn't know what a trip is
>>14863303
Tripfag? yeah okay sure dude
>>14863312
Aww fuck yeah!
>>14863312
I need to pick up some radials, I'm wondering if I'd be able to put it in the high 11's
>>14863586
probably not. doesn't yours have stock heads and all that?
>>14863591
It's got the rectangular port heads and a big cam. I still need to tear down the carb for a rebuild though
>>14863586
If you weren't in Idaho (or whatever western state you're in) I would sell you a set of Goodyear 275's I have that don't fit the car
>>14863695
They probably would fit if you had wheels with the right offset/backspace.
>>14863606
is your interior stripped? what has been done to the trans? also what is your cam specs?
>>14863826
While correct, that's not the reason they don't fit. To get them to fit I would have to cut the exhaust off after the mufflers but I like having conversations while I drive.
>>14863852
Any other way you could route the exhaust? Probably too much of a pain in the ass but I'm curious.
>>14864215
Under the gas tank which wouldn't be too much of a problem if it had a fuel cell in the trunk, but it's got a stock tank. Here's what the underside looks like
Who was looking for an El Camino with a budget of 5k? Either way I found this and thought you may be interested because I'm pretty sure you live in California. Maybe it's Niggertits? I don't remember.
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5542956404.html
I started my car for the first time in 10-15 years and rust came flying out of the exhaust. I just saw a red cloud coming towards me before I realized it was rust and breathed it all in.
Am I going to die?
In other news, sounds like there is a massive exhaust leak that I visually confirmed. The whole muffler can rotted out and there is a massive leak. Can I drive like that? The hot exhaust gas is exiting right at the gas tank. Not sure if that is the most kosher thing to do.
Having trouble pulling an axle out of the diff. Don't have a slide hammer, I've been trying with the drum on backwards trick but no dice.
I'd rather not invest in a slide hammer because this will probably be the only time I use it.
>>14864669
well it probably wasn't good for you, but if you're still conscious and not coughing up blood, you're probably ok
>>14865337
Are you sure it's the kind of axle that will slide out and not the kind where you have to take the diff cover off and remove a big C retainer first?
>>14864234
Sheeeiiit you really have no room to spare down there. All my old GM cars were coil spring master race, guess I'll stick with that.
>>14864585
Fuckin noice m8. Wish they had a little more info. I'm in NorCal though. Not that I wouldn't go to LA for something really bitchin but I'd prefer something a little closer in case the car isn't as good as it looks in the ad.
>>14862659
We have been telling you to stay big block. You will be way more satisfied with that torque and rumble than that of an LS
>>14865337
Have you removed the C clips? What rear end are we talking about here?
So yeah these fine bits of americana showed up at work the other day
dat dash tho
If anyone here lives in Vancouver, Go buy this http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/cto/5536539835.html
>>14867208
ugh I live in Ontario and I want a motorcycle, but god damn that would be tempting.
>>14867208
I do, doesn't look that great though
>>14867156
>>14867170
God I love econolines
>>14867208
is this a normal price for this type of cars?
im a germanfag and cars like these costs way more, for this i would say atleast 9000
recently bought this one.
>>14867479
It's pretty cheap. Not the normal price usually
>>14867479
It's about half price by US standards. 4 door classics hardly ever sell for more than $5k here. Which is why they all get shipped to Europe or used as parts cars for 2-doors and convertibles.
>>14867145
Made my pants tight
![IMG_2787[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xVxHhOV.jpg "IMG_2787[1].jpg")
I'm not really sure if I want to sell this miserable piece of shit or keep it.
It's a 300D diesel and definitely has seen its haydays come and go twice now.
The paint is whatever and very faded, the interior in a really bad condition and keeping a diesel around here is extremely expensive.
Then again, it is a 300D Benz, the best of the best.
>>14868676
There was one near me, same color, clean as fuck. Some hipster rattle canned it and plastered ironic stickers all over the windows ...
>>14866391
>>14866974
It's a Holden 10 bolt diff. The vehicle repair manual doesn't say anything about removal of a C clip when pulling the axle out and googling it doesn't give any answers for this so I imagine it doesn't.
Do you guys know what this wire could possibly go too?
It is not like a regular wire or other wires in car, it has a single silver strand. It is also not in my cars wiring diagram. 68 Chevy II/Nova
>>14869683
Looks like a cheap Speaker wire
>>14869189
Unless the axles have a backing plate that bolts to the axle tube flange, you need to pull the cover as there is some sort of a retaining clip holding the axles in. I've yet to see an axle that used anything but C Clips (conventional cover style) and retaining plates (Third member style).
>>14869940
Ah it does have a backing plate that bolts to the axle. I unbolted it but it's still difficult to pull out
>>14867145
I'd trade my Chevelle in a heartbeat
>>14867145
>>14869951
Salisbury or Banjo diff?
>>14870679
Salisbury
>>14870725
You have clips or keepers in your axle. Did your retainer flange have 4 bolts or 8? You will have C Clips and if its an LSD, you have to fish around springs. If its a posi unit, just around spider gears. Either way, pull the diff cover and get some ring pliers. It's gonna be fun.
>>14871329
4 bolts on the retainer. Time to get to work then.
>>14868619
>>14870300
Wish I had a vid of it leaving, the guy romped on it and I nearly came. Next time it shows up, I'm taking better shots
deal?
or no deal?
It's a pain being an american classic car fan and living in the shitty part of Europe.
>import duties
>transport costs
>no parts
>no way to inspect the car without forking 1k+ for a ticket to US
if im buying headers for this rustang, summit says the power steering bracket is required for installation. the car doesnt even have power steering so should i really have to buy this bracket? id imagine not?
>>14873775
Nah you shouldn't need it, it's probably something you'd need if you did have power steering to move it so it doesn't interfere with the headers.
>>14873775
You will be fine as you do not have the components. Most likely the actual tubing projects forward beyond the head slightly and requires an adapter bracket but because you do not have power steering, its a moot point.
>>14873582
>no way to inspect the car without forking 1k+ for a ticket to US
You could always hire someone to go look at it, I know there are companies specifically for that type of stuff. Or you could always see if someone on /o/ lives near the vehicle.
>>14873775
Long tube or short tube? Short tube headers are bolt on and pretty straight forward for 71, long tubes can be more tricky, but if you don't have power steering, it may just be bolt on as well.
What kind of inspections/emissions testing do people have to go through on here? I've got a first gen mustang and pretty much only had to get registration and insurance to get it on the road, but thats probably because my state doesn't give a fuck about emissions or safety, which is nice.
>>14875564
In California it's the same thing with anything 1975 and older. 97 and older if it's a diesel.
>>14875564
No safety inspection in IL. No emissions testing before 1995 in my county (some counties have no emissions testing at all.) Only illegal mods are license plate covers (not trim rings), nitrous oxide (they have to prove your regulator had pressure behind it), and race slicks on the street (not really enforced around me).
>>14875949
Could you get away with open headers?
>>14863312
I really dig that sleeper look you have going there. I want to build something similar but with a 4-door Nova
>>14876308
I have dumps on the Plymouth. Noise violations include running obscene exhaust on public roads. I have opened them around town but its much too loud for me.
>>14877416
Shit, I'd make an offer.
Hey guys, been a while since I posted. I decided to dump whatever money was necessary in the project car once college is out. Didn't realize old bench seats and even the fucking foam inserts are so expensive (like $2k for a set).
Anyone know if the front bench seat is interchangeable with the rear one in a '68 full size Chevy? The front one is serviceable, the rear is kind of fucked. I was considering moving the front one to the back, and buying cheap bucket seats from ebay for the front.
>>14878703
I highly doubt it m8, you might be able to make the bottom part work but the top part is completely different. I used to have a 69 Caprice and I ended up ordering custom fit Mexican blanket style seat covers.
>>14878798
fuck shit man. It's not just the covers, the seat frame itself has basically rusted into chicken wire. I doubt it would survive being blasted and coated, but I guess I have to try. It's currently in the trunk rotting away because the PO was a pretty useless dude
here's what I did with my doors, I think it came out pretty well considering it's made of carboard, rubber cement and gorilla glue (plus the original rusty panel frames)
>>14878832
You can find a used seat if you look hard enough. Rears are completely different than the fronts
>>14856581
>DAD'S CAR
LMAO
>>14878832
Fuckin noice. Hope you can figure something out for the back seat. How are those crank-operated vent windows treating you? I'm gonna try and buy a 68-72 El Camino and they have that type instead of the latch type that I'm used to.
Thinking of picking up this old '61 Buick Lasabre, but it $2,500. Shit runs, but that's all I can confirm until I check it out.
>>14878857
I'll try and get one from the fb group set up for these cars, but only after I take a flamethrower to the one I have and see what happens
>>14878907
thx famiglia, it's alright, I haven't driven the car much (shitty brakes + no insurance) so I can't really say much about how much air you get, but the crank is very smooth and easy to operate. Only issue is the triangular weather seal is falling apart and they're hard to find NOS, but that's the same for any vent window
>>14858195
>>14878922
looks like the cancer is pretty bad, where are you located
>>14878954
Howard County Maryland, halfway between Baltimore and DC
>>14858195
pic related, also AE86, 944, Volvo 240, Mk1 Golf
admittedly this was kind of a bad period for american cars, at least aesthetically
>>14878969
ah ok, if you weren't in the rust belt I would say look again, but it doesn't look so bad in context
>>14878870
You must be new here
>>14878798
btw, which website did you go through to get the custom fit covers? Do you think they would match my door panels? I'd like to go cheaper than upholsterer if possible
save my money for dat muncie swap...
>>14879236
Shit man that was like 8 years ago, I can't remember.
>>14876570
I'm trying to sell one in LA.
>>14881391
Where's the rest of it? Or have you already used it as a parts car for a 2 door?
I've been looking for a running '58 Apache in original condition to start building up to a daily driver for at least a year now. Turns out my uncle's old '58 that I thought was gutted still has the original 235 I6 and he claims it'll run with a new battery and some quick prep work. I have my doubts but it is part of his personal collection and he has never been known to bullshit when talking shop. If he can prove to me that it's a runner I'll be buying it off him, likely for dirt cheap since it'll be staying in the family, and my father, also a mechanic, is going to join me in restoring it. Meeting up after work for burgers to talk it over.
>>14883108
>>14883108
Looks a little mossy. How are the floor pans, bed floor, and is the fuel tank solid?
>>14883168
Yeah it's pretty filthy right now, definitely needs a bath. Those are the only two pictures I have right now, took them a little over a year ago. I'll be heading to the shop after work today to take a closer look at it, I'll be back with shots of the interior + floor pans, any significant rust inside or out, the bed floor, the engine bay / any visible leaks, probably a few shots of the underside, and a better idea of what I may or may not be getting myself into.
I see all these videos about the "quadrajet moan" and people talking about the unique sound a qjet makes. Do other carbs not make this sound?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwY_6voI1Sw
>>14883108
58-59 is best Chevy truck, always wanted one. Think you'll put a V8 in it eventually or just keep it stock?
>>14883253
If you think that sounds good, you should hear/feel 3 2bbl carbs at WOT.
>pic definitely related
>>14883267
This is a great question. No doubt the original engine is cool and reliable as a brick, but the V8 would possibly be easier to get parts for and modify.
>>14883275
Tri powers and 6 packs are awesome to look at and do perform, but timing them is a cocksucker. Whole reason I decided against them and will be doing a big quad, dual small quads, or the new Stealth EFI on the next big block.
>>14883301
Very true. When dad's car was first finished he had lots of problems with it loading up at idle. After playing with the linkage and jet size it is more manageable, but you still need to "clear her throat" at low RPMs.
>>14883267
It's my favorite truck of all time, I've been borderline obsessed with finding one for over a year, turns out the candidate may have been sitting here under my nose the entire time. If I decide to take it on as a project, which I should know by tomorrow, I'm going to get it up and running strong on the original 235 I6 first. I've heard a lot of good things about them and while I do love V8s and have never owned a vehicle without one I also appreciate the charm and extreme simplicity of an old I6. I'd like to know what a real '58 feels like first, I want to hear it like it was heard 58 years ago, I want appreciate it is a historical relic that survived half a century in its original form before I start bolting alien technology to it, if I ever do get to that point with it.
>>14883283
I've been doing a lot of reading around restoration forums regarding original '58 Apaches with 235 I6s and most people don't seem to be having a very hard time finding the parts they need, especially online, the aftermarket for these trucks is incredible. LMC seems to have every single piece of the truck outside of the engine, at reasonable prices too.
Honestly I think my biggest concern right now is whether or not I'll be able to take the original 235 I6 / 3 Spd. Manual on the highway. Rear gears are 3.9:1, would it be possible to cruise safely at 100 km/h (60 mph)?
>>14883424
I'm running 4000 RPM at 91mph in 3rd with 3.55s based on my tire size. There's a cool calculator that will calculate your speed at RPM based on rear end gear and tire height overall. Cool little tool, ill see if I can google it into being.
>>14854842
>valiant ch
i think i know this anon, i own a cm
im sorry for you
>>14883424
To follow up. With a 28.4" tire diameter, and if you have the syncromesh manual, you should be doing 65 in 3rd at 3000 RPM. I'd swap in some 3.55s or 3.73s and be a bit lower in the revs. 3.92s pull great but have no top end comparatively.
>>14879148
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>>14883584
What do you think would be more practical? Swapping in a new rear gear set or swapping in a tranny with overdrive?
>>14883858
New rear gear set.
Swapping in a tranny would mean unbolting it, all the linkages, and then bolting in a new tranny, not to mention changing the length of the prop shaft
>have nomoney right now
>this pops up on Craigslist
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT SHITCUNT
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5516107742.html
>>14884743
That's exactly how I feel about this. I fucking love this style of Toronado.
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rch/cto/5512450793.html
Welp, this Truck was originally posted for $5000 and now it's this cheap, holy fuck.
http://comoxvalley.craigslist.ca/cto/5547234629.html
>>14884773
They are beautififul, but I'd prefer a Buick Riviera. Nailheads, while a bit shit, make me hard as diamonds. That olds rocket 455 is a hell of a motor tho
Got to work on this for a bit today.
>>14885048
Nice c3. More pics?
>>14885048
>>14885084
Although it might be a c4
>Colorado
Where at mang? I'm in Denver
>>14885084
>>14885090
No other pics, I'll be working on it again tomorrow though. Doing heads on a different car there too, but it's nowhere as aesthetic. 71 c3 ls6, literally sat so long the caliper seals and master cylinder went out.
East of FoCo.
>>14881519
It was a parts car for a two door. I just have the wrecked front end from the other.
>>14885169
Have a line on any mega cheap beaters? Need a DD.
>>14883858
If you want overdrive, Gearvendors surely makes a tailshaft kit. Then just have the driveshaft shortened and balanced.
But that's really pricy and gearsets are cheap and easy. Go this route first.
>>14883858
Swap in an overdrive tranny if you don't have a valuable drivetrain combination. You get the same acceleration, but lower hwy rpms.
>>14883352
>alien technology
Nigga please, they made them with carbed small blocks since 1955. If you had one with a carbed 327 or 350 nobody would know it wasn't a 283 unless you told them.
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/zip/5547344604.html
Free ranchero spotted less drivetrain, heads up if anybody wants more junk. I would but have too many cars
I'm the guy with the Slant Six Dart.
Just brought this home last night. The Dart is for sale if anyone here is interested.
Does my 91 1.6 Miata count as a classic (I mean legally it does, fuck emissions inspections) but like here does it? Lol
>>14886778
Running and driving, lots of new parts. Lots of new parts left to put in. $2500 in Northern Maine.
>>14886796
Yeah but how's the rust? It's from Maine lol
>>14886803
Actually, I trailered it home from Pennsylvania. It has some rot in the lower fenders, but the floors, rockers, frame, and trunk are all solid.
>>14886778
Holy fuck that is gorgeous.
>>14886976
Thanks! Got it for a steal too. Runs and drives great, exhaust sounds beastly, even though it's a 283. Got some minor body work to do and she'll be getting paint.
Corvair here, my PCV is sludging up my intake.
What can i do to clean gunky oil?
>>14888090
Seafoam in oil, drive around a little bit, dump oil, then drive around for a while and dump oil again to totally clean out the seafoam
>>14888186
Can seafoam dissolve the oil? It' basically vegetating itself onto the surfaces of my intake system
>>14888207
Oh I was thinking just a cleaning a dirty engine. If you really want it cleaned, you can take the intake off and just blast the fuck out of the whole thing with carb cleaner
>>14888207
Perfect time for a wicked 283 or 327 swap
>>14883424
I have a 61 which basically has the same drive train under it (235 with 3 speed and 3.9 gear ratio). I'm keeping my 235 and 3 speed (trying to find a 3 speed with overdrive to swap in). At 60mph I was running mine at 3000 almost exactly. I swapped in a 3.38 gear( the only option for my rear end) and now I can run 60-65 at 2500rpm.
>>14888254
Just bought this for it too for $140
>>14883227
So upon further inspection the '58 Apache project turned out to be a mess and a misunderstanding, no surprise. Turns out the "Brian that needs to sell his Apache" isn't his brother Brian like I thought it was, the Apache belongs to another Brian that hangs out around the shop. That being said I knew I was face to face with definite Boomer tax, at least $5000 for a '58 that has been sitting outside uncovered and unstarted for ~10 years, not going to happen. I'm still all systems go for an Apache project, but it won't be this one. Back to Craigslist.
>>14888219
>have to rotate transaxle 180 degrees to mount smallblock
no thx pls.
>ded bred
>>14873775
Mustangs up to 71 use a power cylinder that connects between the frame rail and the steering linkage center link to provide the power assist. The drop bracket the headers need drops the frame rail side of the power cylinder down a couple of inches to clear the LS header. Pic is the header style bracket
tl;dr no manual steering doesn't need the bracket
monterey.craigslist.org/cto/5548906844.html
67 El Camino for $3500, looks like it was customized in the 80s with cocaine as the main inspiration.
>door handles shaved
>bumpers painted
>trim removed or painted over
>80 million pig disgusting louvers on hood
>TAILLIGHTS PAINTED OVER
Does this look redeemable at all?
>>14891799
It's fucking ruined
>>14891799
I think it looks pretty good already
>>14891916
That thing is a chariot family
Why the fuck do people paint over trim pieces though? Its one of part of the classic car aesthetic
Bumpers I kinda understand but its still shitty
>>14891968
I'm a firm believer of keeping a vehicle as stock as possible. While I appreciate a well done resto-mod and custom builds, I would prefer something as stock as it came from factory
>Late 60s Oldsmobile Toronado was in my captcha
Someone talk me in or out of buying this and making myself essentially broke. "Needs some metal work" and supposedly turns over. 383 5 speed. Guy wants 5400.
>>14891998
> 5400
> Been sitting in a field for 20 years
> some metal work
> some
don't do it. It's gonna be a whole lot more than "some"
>>14892105
I know, supposedly the frame is good. This dude has 2, this one is on way better shape but it's automatic.
>>14891916
I actually like the paint scheme and a few other things but yeah basically.
>>14891948
Vatos locos forever guey!
>>14891968
All logic went out the window when they painted the FUCKIGN TAILLIGHT LENSES I mean damn I just can't get over that.
>>14892143
Swapping a transmission is hella fuckin easier than body work. Also old Mopars are sorta unibody, they don't have one continuous frame and if something like the trunk pan is rotted out the rear section of frame is fucked. I'm sure Furybro can tell you better than I can.
>>14892275
Pretty sure they've got a unibody but also frame rails at the front supporting the engine.
